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[MacyNell]

So now I wanna see the back of the box

Ohhhhh....me too!  

[deuce985]

I'd like them to explain Blue lyrium a bit more so we can better understand red lyrium though. I mean red lyrium is supposed to be this super mysterious substance that we are just learning about! But...that doesn't mean as much if we don't know that much about blue lyrium too lol!

 

That's exactly why I can't get excited for it and I can see why people compare it to the ME3 Cerberus plot. I don't know enough about blue lyrium and yet it seems they're jumping right into red. You can't really blame people for thinking red lyrium turns people into mindless monsters and have that concern it will be a very bad plot like Cerberus was in ME3. Cerberus went from a pure grey organization to mind-controlled soldiers. Red Templars look eerily similar...at least what we've seen so far.

[Jean]

I wonder if there are many more types of lyrium?

 

Or if we can mix red and blue to make... purple lyrium! *shot* 

[BioFan (Official)]

Ohhhhh....me too!  

 

 

Hope it has spoilers on it!


 

 

Right now I'm most curious about who the mysterious unknown third rouge will be. 

[BevH]

I'd like them to explain Blue lyrium a bit more so we can better understand red lyrium though. I mean red lyrium is supposed to be this super mysterious substance that we are just learning about! But...that doesn't mean as much if we don't know that much about blue lyrium too lol!

Well there is this from the codex (I did some digging in the toolset to find it):

 

 

More than half the wealth of Orzammar comes from a single, extremely rare substance: Lyrium. The Chantry believes it to be the "Waters of the Fade" mentioned in the Canticle of Threnodies, the very stuff of creation itself, from whence the Maker fashioned the world. Only a handful of Mining Caste families hazard extracting the ore, finding veins in the Stone quite literally by ear. For in its raw form, lyrium sings, and the discerning can hear the sound even through solid rock.

 

Even though dwarves have a natural resistance, raw lyrium is dangerous for all but the most experienced of the Mining Caste to handle. Even for dwarves, exposure to the unprocessed mineral can cause deafness or memory loss. For humans and elves, direct contact with lyrium ore produces nausea, blistering of the skin, and dementia. Mages cannot even approach unprocessed lyrium. Doing so is invariably fatal.

 

Despite its dangers, lyrium is the single most valuable mineral currently known. In the Tevinter Imperium, it has been known to command a higher price than diamond. The dwarves sell very little of the processed mineral to the surface, giving the greater portion of what they mine to their own smiths, who use it in the forging of all truly superior dwarven weapons and armor. What processed lyrium is sold on the surface goes only to the Chantry, who strictly control the supply. From the Chantry, it is dispensed both to the templars, who make use of it in tracking and fighting maleficarum, and to the Circle.

[Phate Phoenix]

Hope it has spoilers on it!


 

 

Right now I'm most curious about who the mysterious unknown third rouge will be. 

 

I have foolish hope for the Grey Warden to be a rogue, which opens up a warrior slot for Cullen.  Terribly unlikely (more likely is that there is no third rogue and we've been misinterpreting what was said at PAX) but that's why it's hope and not logic.

[MacyNell]

Hope it has spoilers on it!


 

 

Right now I'm most curious about who the mysterious unknown third rouge will be. 

 

Yep.  It's exciting because I don't really have a clue.  With so little information actually "confirmed," it's really a crap shoot.  And the chips are going to start falling any moment now.   (Yeah, my metaphors are getting out of hand.  )

[Phate Phoenix]

I have this image in my head of the Inquisitor closing up his/her umpteenth tear (it's been hurting him/her more each time, but until now he/she has been able to ignore the pain of it). As the veil closes the Inquisitor, visibly in pain, drops down to his/her knees. The companions (and LI, if there) run over to help him/her and as he/she looks up at them you see blood drip from his/her nose.

 
EVERYONE ELSE WAS DOING IT.


Bleeding Stone

Spoiler

This is the third Fade Tear they’ve closed. They. Ha, hardly they. Ashtal has stood alone in those moments, fighting a battle of the spirit that Cullen could not begin to understand. She has never wavered, never blinked. She has been the vision of qunari stoicism, and only sighed wearily when it was over. He’d given the process little thought.

Until Ashtal drops her dagger.

The green rip in the sky seals closed and the dagger in Ashtal’s glowing hand slips between suddenly lax fingers. She gasps. Her knees buckle.

Cullen moves before the image fully processes.

She crumples to her knees, beloved daggers lying on the cold stone around her, and her arms visibly shake. She rests her forehead briefly against the ground, horns curling up from it like gnarled claws.

“Ashtal!” Cullen cries, and he skids to her side. His hands hover over her quaking shoulders.

“You--” Ashtal stops, gasps, and it is the most horrifying sound Cullen has ever heard. “You must not... be angry with me.”

Cullen’s heart clenches. “Please,” he whispers, finally laying a hand on her armored shoulder. She leans slightly towards him. “Ashtal, please, what--”

Then he sees it. A flash of color against white and grey stone. Red. Blood. A coin-sized splotch beneath Ashtal’s lowered face. Before Cullen’s very eyes, another drop splashes onto the ground. His breath shutters.

“Ashtal,” he breathes, and, finally, she raises her head. For once in their lives, Dorian and Vivienne are blessedly silent behind him.

Ashtal’s nose is bloodied, and her pupils pin-pricks in her violet eyes. Another red drop rolls down her tarnished-bronze face and onto her lips. Cullen closes his eyes briefly, steadies himself, and then smiles at her.

“My love,” he murmurs, and carefully wipes the blood from her face, “what am I to do with you?”

Ashtal’s eyes close. “Forgive me,” she whispers.

Cullen pulls her to him and says nothing. His throat is too tight for anything but breathing.

[Panda]

I have foolish hope for the Grey Warden to be a rogue, which opens up a warrior slot for Cullen.  Terribly unlikely (more likely is that there is no third rogue and we've been misinterpreting what was said at PAX) but that's why it's hope and not logic.

 

I'm still rooting for arcane warrior, he wouldn't even need to change S&S to be that ^^

[xxKitRosalin]

Food for thought: Do you guys think that Cullen will be as religious as Sebastian, if not even more so? How and why?

[Jynxed_]

Food for thought: Do you guys think that Cullen will be as religious as Sebastian, if not even more so? How and why?

Probably not as religious as he used to be, after the whole "red glowing Meredith" thing. But still probably a bit religious.

[xxKitRosalin]

Probably not as religious as he used to be, after the whole "red glowing Meredith" thing. But still probably a bit religious.

So you don't think he'd separate the two?

[Galagraphia]

THE INQUISITOR IS A LEFTIE LIKE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, she's ambidextrous, like me 

How would you feel if lyrium addiction made it in game as not only something for Cullen to deal with, but Mage protagonists and possibly Mage followers as well?

This is why I almost always turn my Wardens into blood mages!   Lyrium is not good for mages too. Some people in Kinloch Hold talk about how they were throwing up for weeks after their Harrowings, probably because of lyrium. (Or maybe they were just super-scared of demons.) Anyway - blood magic. I will probably choose it again if I can Blood mage is more powerful and self-sufficient, in my opinion.

[Jynxed_]

So you don't think he'd separate the two?

I think he's at the point where he doesn't know what to believe anymore. Kinda like when a super religious person's parent dies, and they start to question their faith. He, at one point, was super into the whole chantry thing, but then he sees his superior, who is supposed to be all good and holy, turn and go ape sh*t evil mode. So he begins to question his faith, as to why something like that would happen to a good, holy Templar....idk just my opinion

[xxKitRosalin]

I think he's at the point where he doesn't know what to believe anymore. Kinda like when a super religious person's parent dies, and they start to question their faith. He, at one point, was super into the whole chantry thing, but then he sees his superior, who is supposed to be all good and holy, turn and go ape sh*t evil mode. So he begins to question his faith, as to why something like that would happen to a good, holy Templar....idk just my opinion

Kind of outs perspective on this clip:

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=_6Dlh_Ew0EY

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Wow, box art! I love it! 

 

I immediately saw the Inquisitor on the cover as a woman and was a little surprised other people saw the figure as a man. Interesting.

 

Selfishly I hope there's some news tomorrow, because I'm taking a sick day and it would be fun to be here for an info drop! (I'm not staying home for DA news, I'm legitimately sick, but some news would make me feel a little less sorry for my miserable sniffling self.  )

 

I've always wondered what the statistics were for DAO's ending: how many players went with the DR and how many refused?

 

My Warden did the Dark Ritual honestly believing it was the better option. She'd become close to Morrigan and (probably unwisely) trusted her opinion, and understood the DR as a sort of redemption for the archdemon - which seemed like the best possible outcome, based on her view of her duty as a Warden.

 

EDIT: To bring this back to Cullen, how would you want to react to blood mage companion? Should Inquisitor being blood mage lead Cullen to leave, make him unromanceable or just make him mention it? I really hope he wouldn't leave although it makes sense but I hope there is some kind of consequence of being blood mage.

 

I want him to at least react. After what he's been through, that should be a major negative for him. If he didn't outright leave, I would expect that the Inquisitor would have to do some serious explaining to talk him down, and a lot of trust would be lost. If Cullen was reacting realistically, I'm not sure it's trust he'd ever get back.

 

If we cure the Tranquil like Anders did...I don't wanna be around any Tranquil that had legitimate reasons for undergoing the Rite.

 

Yeah.

 

My feelings about Tranquility are... complicated. Yes, it's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

But on the other hand, if you have a mage who is totally out of control and is a danger to others and to themselves - what else is there to do? Kill them? What if it was completely not their fault? Still kill them? 

 

Personally, I wouldn't want to be Tranquil but I'd rather be Tranquil than dead. I don't see Tranquility as a worst case scenario.

 

It's definitely not a best case, either, and it would be a last possible resort... but when we're talking about dangerous mages, sometimes a last resort would be the only option.

 

I just hope we get a happy ending. Specifically where we don't fly into a big tear and commit "heroic" suicide.   And if that is what we get I will cry. 

 

I'm sure a happy ending will be at least a possibility. Given the game doesn't end when the main quest ends, it would be hard to continue with an Inquisitor who was dead or trapped forever in the fade or something.  If a tragic ending is possible, I can't see it being the only ending.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Food for thought: Do you guys think that Cullen will be as religious as Sebastian, if not even more so? How and why?

 

I think Cullen is at least as religious as Sebastian if not more so, but I think Cullen would approach religion in a completely different way.

 

Sebastian's religion was very much evident on the surface. He talked about it a lot, he displayed it prominently, he proselytized and tried to bring other people around to his way of thinking. (That's not meant as a criticism, for the record. Those are his beliefs, and he has a right to them.)

 

I see Cullen's religion as much more internal. I see him as more the type to pray silently in his head or alone in the chantry. I don't think he'd talk much about religion unless the other person brought up the subject. I think he would be very devout, I just see faith as being more of a private and personal thing for him. 

[Panda]

Personally, I wouldn't want to be Tranquil but I'd rather be Tranquil than dead. I don't see Tranquility as a worst case scenario.

 

 

Well after how Karl reacted about being tranquil and wished death.. I'm pretty sure tranquil is worse than death. It makes you mindless slave and you practically are death inside, only shell (your body) is left. Owen also described tranquility as being thrown into cold water. So at least to me tranquility seems like fate worse than death and I hope I can destroy that system ^^;

[CuriousArtemis]

My feelings about Tranquility are... complicated. Yes, it's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

But on the other hand, if you have a mage who is totally out of control and is a danger to others and to themselves - what else is there to do? Kill them? What if it was completely not their fault? Still kill them? 

 

I think it's pretty simple, really; if someone turns into an abomination, kill 'em

[Galagraphia]

Food for thought: Do you guys think that Cullen will be as religious as Sebastian, if not even more so? How and why?

I think they are religious in a different way. Sebastian was basically shipped off to the Chantry when he was grown up. So his ardour is a bit artificial, like he's trying to convince himself first of all. Don't mistake this for fanatism, though. The specifics of Sebastian's faith makes him more tolerant to other religions, and we can see it when they talk with Merrill. Sebastian has faith, but his mind is totally mundane. That is the source of his inner conflict with himself, because he's constantly being torn apart by his associations with both Chantry world and the mundane world.

Cullen always seemed like he was raised for this. This is a headcanon territory: I always thought he was raised within the Chantry, so his wold is shaped by its teachings. Remember how he calls Qunari heathens? He doesn't sound hateful, he sounds 200% sure he's right, and they are wrong. Just wrong. Nothing to talk about Cullen seems to me whole, solid in regard to his faith. And perhaps that's what saved him during Uldred's rebellion.

[Sister Goldring]

I think they are religious in a different way. Sebastian was basically shipped off to the Chantry when he was grown up. So his ardour is a bit artificial, like he's trying to convince himself first of all. Don't mistake this for fanatism, though. The specifics of Sebastian's faith makes him more tolerant to other religions, and we can see it when they talk with Merrill. Sebastian has faith, but his mind is totally mundane. That is the source of his inner conflict with himself, because he's constantly being torn apart by his associations with both Chantry world and the mundane world.

Cullen always seemed like he was raised for this. This is a headcanon territory: I always thought he was raised within the Chantry, so his wold is shaped by its teachings. Remember how he calls Qunari heathens? He doesn't sound hateful, he sounds 200% sure he's right, and they are wrong. Just wrong. Nothing to talk about Cullen seems to me whole, solid in regard to his faith. And perhaps that's what saved him during Uldred's rebellion.

 

I really like this interpretation of Sebastian and Cullen.  It seems very fitting to me and I think would hold in Cullen's case even if he joined the Templars (Chantry) later than Galagraphis suggests.  I hope that it turns out to be reflective of his in game character, I think it would be interesting to have the company of someone with an unshakable faith both for the conversations and because it sounds a bit paladin-ish and I'm a sucker for Paladins.  

[Phate Phoenix]

My feelings about Tranquility are... complicated. Yes, it's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
 
But on the other hand, if you have a mage who is totally out of control and is a danger to others and to themselves - what else is there to do? Kill them? What if it was completely not their fault? Still kill them? 
 
Personally, I wouldn't want to be Tranquil but I'd rather be Tranquil than dead. I don't see Tranquility as a worst case scenario.
 
It's definitely not a best case, either, and it would be a last possible resort... but when we're talking about dangerous mages, sometimes a last resort would be the only option.

 
I think my main problem with the Rite of Tranquility is that it is not a quick and easy job. It can't be, otherwise vigilante templars would make use of it far more often. No, someone has to grab the mage and hold them while the brand is applied. Probably another mage is needed to complete the process. So, if a mage is out of control and a danger to themselves, the Rite of Tranquility would never be an option to consider in the first place, you know?
 
Honestly, death seems a kinder fate to me. Kinder and safer, since even Tranquility can be reversed, and the mages who come out of it seem to be emotional wrecks and even more prone to demonic possession because of it. Bad, bad, bad all around. I kinda hope we can talk Cullen into seeing that. Perhaps these Fade Tears will be a wake-up call if a bunch of Tranquil suddenly come "alive" again, and many of them get possessed.
 
Of course, this could also simply lead to mass-killings of Tranquil. Hmm.

 

Food for thought: Do you guys think that Cullen will be as religious as Sebastian, if not even more so? How and why?

 

This is one of those questions where I don't feel I know enough to make a proper judgement. I feel like the answer is yes. Sebastian is a Brother of the Chantry and his position is to spread faith. He's outspoken in his religion because that's how he's supposed to be. He's supposed to convert nonbelievers when able, and reinvigorate the masses. That's... well, that's his job.

 

Cullen's faith, I believe, is the quiet kind of faith. Internalized and believed-in so powerfully that it takes a lot to rattle him. (Like, say, realizing the woman you serve is actually out of her mind and abusing her position in a fit of paranoia.) But he's not overly outspoken. He's assured of his faith, but it's not his place to try and convert. In fact, I might even say it's his place to smite nonbelievers. Do not templars fight for the Chantry?

 

I think Cullen's reaction to a non-Andrastian will be very interesting. If he's taken more to his templar duties as nonsecular, then he might handle a Dalish Elf, or an atheist (as much as they can be) qunari. If, however, Cullen is still part of the Chantry, he'll probably become frustrated. Why don't you believe? Can't you see it? Sebastian was trained how to counter these kinds of thinking. Cullen was trained to kill them.

 

 

Wow. Sorry. It's way late and my brain would not shut off. I should.. go. I should go sleep. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

 
I think my main problem with the Rite of Tranquility is that it is not a quick and easy job. It can't be, otherwise vigilante templars would make use of it far more often. No, someone has to grab the mage and hold them while the brand is applied. Probably another mage is needed to complete the process. So, if a mage is out of control and a danger to themselves, the Rite of Tranquility would never be an option to consider in the first place, you know?

 

I think in a situation where there was that sort of immediate danger, the mage would probably just be struck down. Desperate times calling for lethal measures, and all.

 

Tranquility would be more when the mage demonstrates consistent inability or unwillingness to maintain control, meaning they posed a more long-term danger.

 

But that's just guessing, I don't know really.

 

Not trying to defend Tranquility here. It's bad. I just... can see situations in which it would seem like the most merciful and/or only option from a certain point of view.

[Hellion Rex]

Look what I found

 

[Ananka]

Hm, I've never heard of tranquility being reversed other thsn temporarily (like with Karl). Is that something from the books?