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Good evening all!

 

I have a question about the advisers (kind of Cullen question so bear with me) and I wanted to get your thoughts.

 

In one of the earliest gameplay videos, the Inquisitor went to a mage stronghold and found Leliana, who had been captured and tortured by the mage the Inquisitor had been sent to defeat. 

 

My question is this: do you think that mission was specifically geared for Leliana (recruitment quest, maybe)? Or do you think that quest entails choosing an adviser to investigate the stronghold, meaning that any one of the three advisers could be in that scene?

 

I'm kind of thinking that it's a adviser recruitment quest but am not 100% sure -- I mean, who would send Josephine to a mage stronghold? But since the game is all about choices, it could very well be that you can indeed send the adviser of your choice to investigate that spooky castle.

 

That being said, any of you already planning a rescue mission if it's Cullen chained up in there?  (let the drooling commence!!)   :lol:



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Have a thing for leather, do you?

 

lol! Apparently.

 

but in all seriousness. it was the detail of the sound that i appreciated. that they took the time to realize that, and then add the effect to the scene. that's something.


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I think it's more of a non committal, "Huh." She's considering this man before her kinda thing.

Not full blown grinning like a lovestruck fool, because perhaps she's not there.

I do hope that the "Lovestruck fool" smile is an actual thing in the game.

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Good evening all!

 

I have a question about the advisers (kind of Cullen question so bear with me) and I wanted to get your thoughts.

 

In one of the earliest gameplay videos, the Inquisitor went to a mage stronghold and found Leliana, who had been captured and tortured by the mage the Inquisitor had been sent to defeat. 

 

My question is this: do you think that mission was specifically geared for Leliana (recruitment quest, maybe)? Or do you think that quest entails choosing an adviser to investigate the stronghold, meaning that any one of the three advisers could be in that scene?

 

I'm kind of thinking that it's a adviser recruitment quest but am not 100% sure -- I mean, who would send Josephine to a mage stronghold? But since the game is all about choices, it could very well be that you can indeed send the adviser of your choice to investigate that spooky castle.

 

That being said, any of you already planning a rescue mission if it's Cullen chained up in there?  (let the drooling commence!!)   :lol:

 

from what I understand, that scene could play out in a myriad of ways. I t does not necessarily have to be Leli. Maybe Leli was even the wrong choice for this mission? Maybe it depends on how prepared we are?

 

It seems there are several variables at play here. Which kinda scares the hell outta me. In a good way.


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lol! Apparently.

 

but in all seriousness. it was the detail of the sound that i appreciated. that they took the time to realize that, and then add the effect to the scene. that's something.

I do too. Little things like that add to the believability of scenes.

 

I do hope that the "Lovestruck fool" smile is an actual thing in the game.

I'm kind of hoping for the slow response smile (i.e. someone doesn't react for a few moments, then slowly smiles). I like that reaction for some reason.



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from what I understand, that scene could play out in a myriad of ways. I t does not necessarily have to be Leli. Maybe Leli was even the wrong choice for this mission? Maybe it depends on how prepared we are?

 

It seems there are several variables at play here. Which kinda scares the hell outta me. In a good way.

Based on what we've seen of the choices at the table and things they said in that video, Leliana may have been sent against her better judgement and the outcome might have been different with a different advisor. Also, they implied she'd been sent in with inadequate resources/people, maybe?



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I do hope that the "Lovestruck fool" smile is an actual thing in the game.

 

shrugs..idk. i would like that, too. tbh. but it does seem rather toned down expression wise in this game. or maybe it's just the dialogue they're picking?


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They did like to pick the "We're Focused, Cullen. Stop with your silly need for distraction." Hard azz choices.



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Good evening all!

 

I have a question about the advisers (kind of Cullen question so bear with me) and I wanted to get your thoughts.

 

In one of the earliest gameplay videos, the Inquisitor went to a mage stronghold and found Leliana, who had been captured and tortured by the mage the Inquisitor had been sent to defeat. 

 

My question is this: do you think that mission was specifically geared for Leliana (recruitment quest, maybe)? Or do you think that quest entails choosing an adviser to investigate the stronghold, meaning that any one of the three advisers could be in that scene?

 

I'm kind of thinking that it's a adviser recruitment quest but am not 100% sure -- I mean, who would send Josephine to a mage stronghold? But since the game is all about choices, it could very well be that you can indeed send the adviser of your choice to investigate that spooky castle.

 

That being said, any of you already planning a rescue mission if it's Cullen chained up in there?  (let the drooling commence!!)   :lol:

From what I understand, whne you go to a quest that an advisor can do, the ones that are available or elligable for that task will show up, but the ones that are not elligable will have a lock over their card. So you'd only be able to pick from the ones that are actually able to do the requested task.


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They did like to pick the "We're Focused, Cullen. Stop with your silly need for distraction." Hard azz choices.

 

Yeah, that quizzy has a stick up her ass!  :P


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They did like to pick the "We're Focused, Cullen. Stop with your silly need for distraction." Hard azz choices.

 I would have been very surprised if they picked one of the other options that allowed a deeper conversation with him.

 

...of course, it could very well be that they might have been told not to choose those options since they want us to discover that info for ourselves.  ;)



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From what I understand, whne you go to a quest that an advisor can do, the ones that are available or elligable for that task will show up, but the ones that are not elligable will have a lock over their card. So you'd only be able to pick from the ones that are actually able to do the requested task.

Hmmmm...that would solve the problem of choosing an advisor who would not be the best candidate for a specific quest, which makes sense for the remaining options: military force (Cullen) or stealth (Leliana). Thank you, VampOrchid! :)


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My question is this: do you think that mission was specifically geared for Leliana (recruitment quest, maybe)? Or do you think that quest entails choosing an adviser to investigate the stronghold, meaning that any one of the three advisers could be in that scene?
 

 

Well the advisors don't really have recruitment quests, Cassandra and Leliana have arranged Josephine and Cullen into their roles in the Inquisition before you're even factored in as a possible head of the movement they're building.

 

But this quest in specific, they did explain when the gameplay video was released: it's a quest you receive at the war table, and each of the advisors suggests a different way to approach it. What we've seen with Leliana is the outcome of the plan she suggested - the Inquisitor went with her idea, and the whole thing happpened from there. If you had chosen to take Josephine's or Cullen's advice, they would have approached the situation differently, and we might see a completely different scenario. Hypothetically, maybe Josephine's diplomatic approach is an apparent success for the purpose you had, but you never find out about the guy's son. Maybe Cullen's militaristic approach of just taking an army of Templars and levelling the place ends up with things going even worse than Leliana's scenario, with lots of his men dead to that mage. Maybe it's the other way around, who knows. We won't know until we reach this quest and try all the different ways to tackle it, but what I understood from the devs' commentaries was that they will not be all the same scenario just with different characters in the chains, but that each advisor's approach will have fully different repercussions.

 

If Cullen ends up in some similar manner of trouble doing this quest and we have to rescue him from being tortured by mages again, though... woe be unto their miserable souls, because I will personally gut each and every last one of them like pigs. No one touches my Commander. (◡‿◡✿)


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#83839
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maybe you'll find it a motivator for waking up early every morning (because i have a hard time doing so)

 

seems like i need more practice with bodies in perspective >.<

 

under cut because very nsfw

O______O
 

I need to be doused in holy water, like right now.


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Good evening all!

 

I have a question about the advisers (kind of Cullen question so bear with me) and I wanted to get your thoughts.

 

In one of the earliest gameplay videos, the Inquisitor went to a mage stronghold and found Leliana, who had been captured and tortured by the mage the Inquisitor had been sent to defeat. 

 

My question is this: do you think that mission was specifically geared for Leliana (recruitment quest, maybe)? Or do you think that quest entails choosing an adviser to investigate the stronghold, meaning that any one of the three advisers could be in that scene?

 

I'm kind of thinking that it's a adviser recruitment quest but am not 100% sure -- I mean, who would send Josephine to a mage stronghold? But since the game is all about choices, it could very well be that you can indeed send the adviser of your choice to investigate that spooky castle.

 

That being said, any of you already planning a rescue mission if it's Cullen chained up in there?  (let the drooling commence!!)   :lol:

 

That mission if we're given the choice of who to send is probably going to be very difficult for me to pick?

 

On the one hand, Josephine is the diplomat and she might actually be good because she'd enter the situation ready to talk and try to open a dialogue, rather than go guns blazing like Leliana and Cullen would. Aside from bringing his dead son back to life (who might have been killed by Leliana in her initial assault of the place, we don't know?), Alexius doesn't seem that too far gone to not be reasonable if you could maybe talk him down? The only reason it goes wrong in the version we've seen with Leliana is because she slits his son's throat out of spite, causing him to flip out. On the other hand, if it's a trap and was going to go south anyway, then I'd rather not send Josephine to be tortured.

 

Similarly, Cullen and Leliana have both been tortured in the past and it's left it's mark on them in a profound way. Leliana's torture (and implied other abuse) after being betrayed by Marjolaine was something that shook her to the core and left her searching for direction before Dorothea rescued her. Similarly, Cullen's torture at the hands of the blood mages and demons in Uldred's coup caused him to distrust most mages for the better part of a decade afterward. Sending both of them into another situation that could lead to the same kind of traumatic experience is something I'd want to avoid at all costs.

 

It's a pain because since we know it can go badly, I kind of hope we'll have the option to go in ourselves? Having the Inquisitor be the one getting tortured and having our friends bust us out is something that we've not really seen before, as we've always broken out of jail long before any harm to our characters too place?

 

I do hope that the "Lovestruck fool" smile is an actual thing in the game.

 

Wasn't that Alistair's default expression in Origins?


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#83841
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Ba-Dum-Tish!


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@Sifr: Ooh, I would love to see where our companions have to save our Inquisitor! For some reason, I am a sucker for saving my character quests. And if it can have an effect on our characters, that would make things interesting!
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@Sifr: Ooh, I would love to see where our companions have to save our Inquisitor! For some reason, I am a sucker for saving my character quests. And if it can have an effect on our characters, that would make things interesting!

 

Yes!!! Like when we could rescue the warden and Alicat from Fort Drakon! That was by far one of my favorite parts of DA.


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Yes!!! Like when we could rescue the warden and Alicat from Fort Drakon! That was by far one of my favorite parts of DA.


Is it sad that I headcanon my female human Mage, at least, getting tortured before she is rescued...?

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O______O
 

I need to be doused in holy water, like right now.

Only holy water will do?



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I think I'm gonna go hit up my recent DA2 PT. I'm still determined to complete a pro-templar PT. I mean it this time.

 

Oh, I also made a Male Hawke for the first time! O.M.G. is my guy Hawt! He really is.

 

And he's got this thing in his walk. This little...hitch. this...giddy-up kinda thing. It's--mmmm--I love to watch that man walk.

 

It's true.

 

Peace, my Loves. I'll prolly be seeing you tom. what with another twitch stream, and all. Maker, help me. They don't wanna let me go. They tryin' to pin me down and take me!

 

Aaahhhhhhahahaha, nah, nah. I'm just playing with you. hehheh. Laterz. :P :kissing: <3


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Yes!!! Like when we could rescue the warden and Alicat from Fort Drakon! That was by far one of my favorite parts of DA.

My first warden was a rogue, and I figured out how to rescue myself (and Alistair). I've mostly taken that option because it avoids most bloodshed and I love to imagine Loghain being told the Warden(s) apparently just walked out of Fort Drakon without anyone noticing. But I've sent people in a couple of times, for fun (I had to let Leliana rescue her CE lover, the situation screamed for that, and I sent Sobaka (mabari) with her since that's one of the funnier options). I think I also sent in Zevran once with Oghren just because.


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Is it sad that I headcanon my female human Mage, at least, getting tortured before she is rescued...?

 

Nahh it adds to the drama of the whole situation!