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Okay, so I wrote a little fanfiction on the fly. I just couldn't help myself. It might be really bad so please be gentle with me. I've put it under spoiler tags because it has stuff in it that has been revealed in recent videos. 

 

And if there are grammar errors, I apologize in advance.

 

 


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Um, I don't see why choosing to side with the Chantry would involve vows of any kind. Chantry initiates, i.e., clergy, take vows. Even Leliana, one of the more pro-Chantry folk we meet, was only affirmed. Even templars don't take vows of celibacy. 

 

And maybe they can leave even after the vows no? In DA2, Sebastian did leave to retake the Throne of his city if you rivaled him to max or refuse to do kill Blondie at the end of DA2



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Just a wild speculation based on the trailer : how if actually one of the ending is the kind of Betrayal of Andraste by Maferath? According to one of the trailers in the fade the Quizzy is chosen and helped by a spiritual being (let that be the Maker for example, or the Divine or whatever). She is then marked and subsequently raise an army and bring peace and order to Thedas, recognized as the Chosen One/Hero or whatever. Cullen is the Commander of your army, just like Maferath to Andraste. Then in the end he got jealous and kill ya.  That'll be an epic ending no? :P


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Just a wild speculation based on the trailer : how if actually one of the ending is the kind of Betrayal of Andraste by Maferath? According to one of the trailers in the fade the Quizzy is chosen and helped by a spiritual being (let that be the Maker for example, or the Divine or whatever). She is then marked and subsequently raise an army and bring peace and order to Thedas, recognized as the Chosen One/Hero or whatever. Cullen is the Commander of your army, just like Maferath to Andraste. Then in the end he got jealous and kill ya.  That'll be an epic ending no? :P

Wow, I sort of love this! I don't think it would happen since I imagine we're headed for happy-ending-ville... but this would be kind of awesome! ^_^



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Just a wild speculation based on the trailer : how if actually one of the ending is the kind of Betrayal of Andraste by Maferath? According to one of the trailers in the fade the Quizzy is chosen and helped by a spiritual being (let that be the Maker for example, or the Divine or whatever). She is then marked and subsequently raise an army and bring peace and order to Thedas, recognized as the Chosen One/Hero or whatever. Cullen is the Commander of your army, just like Maferath to Andraste. Then in the end he got jealous and kill ya.  That'll be an epic ending no? :P

 

No. Cathaire was the General of Andrastes armies (also voiced By GE in the Gauntlet quest), Maferath was Andrastes husband and a General of the Alamarrii .

 



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Oups, I did confound them then. I just remember the part of Maferath being a General somewhere, and I supposed that he was Andraste's army's commander. But still, if that choice exist for romanced Cullen to betray the Quizzy that will surely be interesting to see. It won't be my "canon" story but well, interesting all the same :D



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No. Cathaire was the General of Andrastes armies (also voiced By GE in the Gauntlet quest), Maferath was Andrastes husband and a General of the Alamarrii tribe.

Good, that puts my mind at ease. I don't like betrayal scenarios. Cullen getting envious of the Inquisitor? Jealous of fame or power? I think that's why Maferath turned on Andraste. Bah, he wouldn't be worth a grain of salt. 


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#84084
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Cathaire was loyal to Andraste. So if he is 'Cullen' in game, then quizzy isn't being betrayed by him.

 

I'd be more worried about being stabbed in the back by Cole (read Asunder), Vivienne (own agenda) and IB (Qun).

 

I have also debated the Andraste story being 'replayed' in DAi and it certainly does have some similarities.

 

 

All of the Gauntlet characters....Maferath at 3:13



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:blush: Well that last NSFW pic .....OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! :blush:


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Um, I don't see why choosing to side with the Chantry would involve vows of any kind. Chantry initiates, i.e., clergy, take vows. Even Leliana, one of the more pro-Chantry folk we meet, was only affirmed. Even templars don't take vows of celibacy. 

 

That's the detail that's unclear from the wording: "With close family ties to the Chantry, and many relatives among the priesthood and the templars, you were always expected to follow a similar path in service of the Maker---regardless of how you feel about the matter personally." If you can choose to not be under any oath (and as far as I know only the affirmed are free of vows and can walk away at any time), I'm fine with it and I could absolutely see a human rogue of mine playing a Leliana-spy role for the Chantry or a warrior playing a non-clergy military leader for them. But do we even know that Leliana is just an affirmed or something similar still? My understanding was that the other two groups in the priesthood, initiates and clerics, were required to take vows of celibacy (though those vows could expire like Sebastian's seem to do at one point?) The Templars are the only non-priest Chantry group I think have been mentioned in game.  The only way I can see you as being intended for either the Templars or the priesthood but not yet sworn is if you're at the youngest end of the age spectrum they've offered us.

 

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And yes, the Templars are an option, but I personally have zero interest in playing a character involved in that current system.



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Hmmmm difficult one, maybe they have an extended time before final vows...some catholic nuns for example do not take final vows for 10 years, so say you went to the Chantry (since Templars aren't your thing), acted as the messenger rogue like Sebastian did (he was once called the left hand of Elthina by one of the devs), the whole bang might have happened before final vows? I know, reaching a bit....



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Cathaire was loyal to Andraste. So if he is 'Cullen' in game, then quizzy isn't being betrayed by him.

 

I'd be more worried about being stabbed in the back by Cole (read Asunder), Vivienne (own agenda) and IB (Qun).

 

I have also debated the Andraste story being 'replayed' in DAi and it certainly does have some similarities.

 

Well, if you want an interesting parallel - look at the various stories of Flemeth's origin. Married woman (whether to Osen or Conobar varies), the other falls in love, betrayal with the powerful (godlike?) Conobar having Osen the bard killed (Andraste's singing attracting the Maker's attention)? I admit I'm fascinated by the two versions of Flemeth's story and how many things are similar (but not identical) to Andraste's relationships. Makes me wonder if Flemeth's story didn't get mixed up with Andraste the liberator... ;)


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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but while playing ME3 I noticed that Cullen has a very similar scar in the same place as Admiral Hackket! (not saying its a bad thing, its just something I noticed). Is this simply a ME3 reference or maybe an idea of how Cullen may act? 

 

*snip*

 

Good catch!

 

Although, maybe it just means that near the end of the game, when you've done practically everything to save everybody in the Galaxy/Thedas, Hackett/Cullen marches into your Starship/Keep to give a rousing speech to all the forces you've assembled, in an attempt to pinch some of the credit for himself? He does have that "For the herald of Andraste!" line in the trailer, after all!

 

:lol:

 

There's a mod that fixes NPC's fighting dragons. I think it's called "Run for your lives"? I finally installed it after too many NPC's were dying to dragon attacks. There's also a version for vampire attacks, and I installed that one, too. Now the only NPC's that will attack dragons and vampires are the guards, my followers, and Companions. But, yeah, I was tired of having to resurrect people via the console. "Goddamnit, Olfina! You're a tavern maid, not a warrior! Stop attacking dragons/vampires!"

 

Yeah, that mod is a friggin' lifesaver, although for some reason the Vampire one seems to be a tad glitchy for me now I've started Dawnguard, forcing me to attempt to take down several level 81+ vampires before any NPCs get in the way... which is especially nightmarish in Solitude because they spawn in the middle of crowded area, so far from the entrances... <_<

 

I am actually curious are we formally sworn or just planned to join either the templars or chantry. 

 

The blurb on the site for a non-Mage Trevelyan, imples we were planned to be sworn into the Chantry, regardless of our personal feelings on the matter?

 

My own headcanon is that Papa Trevelyan is both ridiculously pious and subscribes to the totalitarian school of parenting. For a Mage, he's basically disowned them, while for a non-Mage, you'll either join the Chantry or become a Templar (in-so losing your inheritance) or be struck out of the will (thus losing your inheritance anyway), something that doesn't bother him since you're not the eldest and the immediate heir?

 

Kind of a tool, no?



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Hmmmm difficult one, maybe they have an extended time before final vows...some catholic nuns for example do not take final vows for 10 years, so say you went to the Chantry (since Templars aren't your thing), acted as the messenger rogue like Sebastian did (he was once called the left hand of Elthina by one of the devs), the whole bang might have happened before final vows? I know, reaching a bit....

Yeah, like I said, I'm waiting to see how they implement it and whether there's flexibility. If it's a no-go, it isn't as if there aren't other options, and there are no LIs that are racegated to humans only. The only drawback is never being able to play the race with apparently a diplomatic advantage in recruiting allies.

 

Edited: though that does make the fact that they originally planned for humans pretty stunning if there's no flexibility. Man, talk about forcing people to take a side even more so than in DA2!



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Well, if you want an interesting parallel - look at the various stories of Flemeth's origin. Married woman (whether to Osen or Conobar varies), the other falls in love, betrayal with the powerful (godlike?) Conobar having Osen the bard killed (Andraste's singing attracting the Maker's attention)? I admit I'm fascinated by the two versions of Flemeth's story and how many things are similar (but not identical) to Andraste's relationships. Makes me wonder if Flemeth's story didn't get mixed up with Andraste the liberator... ;)

 

I think some of Flemeths backstory may have been retconned. However I agree with you, a very interesting character, kind of like Loki the trickster. She seems to be involved in saving many 'important' people (pivot points of history), and gives them warnings that they normally ignore or don't believe. If Morrigan goes into the fade in the Circle quest, Flemeth is wearing Tevinter Magister robes.

 

Since the Archdemons are dragons, I have to wonder is Flemeth an Old God? Rather than the witch of the wilds.


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Okay, so I wrote a little fanfiction on the fly. I just couldn't help myself. It might be really bad so please be gentle with me. I've put it under spoiler tags because it has stuff in it that has been revealed in recent videos. 

 

And if there are grammar errors, I apologize in advance.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing :) I quite enjoyed it :)



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Yeah, like I said, I'm waiting to see how they implement it and whether there's flexibility. If it's a no-go, it isn't as if there aren't other options, and there are no LIs that are racegated to humans only. The only drawback is never being able to play the race with apparently a diplomatic advantage in recruiting allies.

 

Edited: though that does make the fact that they originally planned for humans pretty stunning if there's no flexibility. Man, talk about forcing people to take a side even more so than in DA2!

 

How about the Chantry sent you to the Crows to learn how to be an assassin, since the Antivan Crows were once part of the Chantry? You were meant to take vows when you got back....but kept putting going back off? 30ish years old?



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I think some of Flemeths backstory may have been retconned. However I agree with you, a very interesting character, kind of like Loki the trickster. She seems to be involved in saving many 'important' people (pivot points of history), and gives them warnings that they normally ignore or don't believe. If Morrigan goes into the fade in the Circle quest, Flemeth is wearing Tevinter Magister robes.

 

Since the Archdemons are dragons, I have to wonder is Flemeth an Old God? Rather than the witch of the wilds.

I wonder too. I feel like she's some power that's part of a story that replays itself over and over (and has at least three players).


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How about the Chantry sent you to the Crows to learn how to be an assassin, since the Antivan Crows were once part of the Chantry? You were meant to take vows when you got back....but kept putting going back off? 30ish years old?

The Crows were once part of the chantry? I missed that...  :blink:  But yes, I could live with something like what you describe (though my PC would have been making plans to vanish on her own before they could make her take vows). Like I said, I'm just waiting to see how much flexibility they give us - whether our conversation choices determine whether or not we were under vows or were in some different relationship to the Chantry. If we have options that allow us to say no vows, I'll probably be fine with it.



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Okay, so I wrote a little fanfiction on the fly. I just couldn't help myself. It might be really bad so please be gentle with me. I've put it under spoiler tags because it has stuff in it that has been revealed in recent videos. 

 

And if there are grammar errors, I apologize in advance.

 

 

 

I really enjoyed it, ty for sharing, I'm looking forward to reading more from you :)



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Wow, that war table sees a lot of *ahem* "action".


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Wow, that war table sees a lot of *ahem* "action".

It does seem to inspire action, doesn't it?



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omg.. 26 days left


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