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[Damate]

They said no class gating, but they didn't promise that it wouldn't complicate things a little. I would find it pretty weird for Cullen, for instance, not to have a couple of comments while working through his feelings about a mage.

For sure. I never claimed to want otherwise . I just believe it'll be possible to connect with Cullen as a Mage in a non-"rivalmance" way, even if the "Mage issue" is addressed. I hope it is. Like I said earlier, not addressing it detracts from the characters veracity/fidelity if it's never brought up.

Twitch Stream: any sign of someone posting it to YouTube? I can't watch twitch recordings on my phone. No flash player and the stupid mobile app doesn't show recordings

[john-in-france]

@Cerulion Sadly we haven't seen many cutscenes yet...so difficult to tell. The female elf in the first introduction to the war table had reasonable face movement, but not overly expressive.

[CuriousArtemis]

I think it is going to be down to the voice acting; seems facial expressions are still difficult for them to implement. The Dorian and Cullen scene was so great because the voice actors just nailed it; unfortunately, I have a feeling the inquisitor VAs were instructed to read their lines somewhat blandly, similar to Shepard, so that players wouldn't feel their character was being written for them in a way they didn't agree with.

 

Hawke had a LOT of personality in his/her voice (especially his voice) and the facial expressions were awesome! I think that's not going to be repeated here, especially since soooo many people complained about Hawke not being "their" character.

[Sifr]

Male Aeducan had a fling and child with Mardy in DAO. Female Aeducan got Jacobed by Gorim....

 

Nah, I don't see Gorim as "Jacobing" a Female Aeducan.

 

Despite caring for each other deeply, it was clear to both of them that their relationship could never be anything more than just casual sex, not to mention being forced to sneak around in secret, due to their caste differences. Furthermore, Gorim's goodbye at the jail cell made it clear that it was going to be the last time they'd likely ever see each other, since he was being exiled to the surface and she was being cast out to the Deep Roads to die. The chance she'd survive fighting through the darkspawn infested tunnels long enough to even reach the Wardens, as well as survive the return to the surface, was meant to be a million-to-one chance?

 

I'd say that the relationship was obviously over and some major time had passed by the time of their reunion in Denerim?

 

Unlike Jacob on the other hand, who cheated on FemShep, entered into a serious relationship with and knocked up another woman, in just under six months from leaving the Normandy. From FemShep's reaction, they never had a Gorim-esque discussion about the state of their relationship due to her turning herself in, nor did he indicate to her that this meant things were over, especially since when you call him out on this he tries to weasel out of any kind of responsibility until the convo in Citadel where he finally admits he was a total cad.

 

Sorry Jake, but trying to use the following defence doesn't quite cut it...

 

 

"A man owns his mistakes", my foot...

 

/End rant

[R2s Muse]

Don't forget about the reaction wheel. Presumably at some points we'll get to choose to do some genuine emoting. Other than that, I'm sadly starting to wonder if they went too far back to "neutral" after all the role play concerns, and now our PC is pretty emotionless most of the time. Time will tell tho.

[Sifr]

I think it is going to be down to the voice acting; seems facial expressions are still difficult for them to implement. The Dorian and Cullen scene was so great because the voice actors just nailed it; unfortunately, I have a feeling the inquisitor VAs were instructed to read their lines somewhat blandly, similar to Shepard, so that players wouldn't feel their character was being written for them in a way they didn't agree with.

 

Hawke had a LOT of personality in his/her voice (especially his voice) and the facial expressions were awesome! I think that's not going to be repeated here, especially since soooo many people complained about Hawke not being "their" character.

 

If this is the case, I'd kind of think that's a step backwards, since Hawke's character and personality were a major part of what made me enjoy DA2.

 

Sure, there were something that could have been improved, like Paragon!Hawke being rather naive and clueless, Angry!Hawke never taking a break from being a jerk to people, as well as some instances of Snarky!Hawke being extremely tactless when people had just died, but overall it gave their characters something that stood out about them.

 

To be honest, I felt that playing as Hawke and Shepard gave me the same kind of roleplay experience, so I don't see how some can hate one and like the other? Unless the argument is that we go back to the style of silent protagonists like Warden and Revan?

[Iceyone]

Don't forget about the reaction wheel. Presumably at some points we'll get to choose to do some genuine emoting. Other than that, I'm sadly starting to wonder if they went too far back to "neutral" after all the role play concerns, and now our PC is pretty emotionless most of the time. Time will tell tho.

 

I hope it's not completely neutral, imo there is a fine line between neutral and dull/uninteresting with facial expressions, I understand some peoples concern about their role playing options but personally I like something more than - Smile Giggle Hysterical belly laugh sad disappointed and so on. They have gone to trouble and expense to switch over to the FB3 engine, I hope they have used at least some of it's potential on the Inquisitor and not just on the companions. You're right though, we'll find out in time.

[Queen Rowan]

I don't think we've seen enough situations that allow for more extreme facial expressions to make assumptions about whether Bioware is taking a step forward or backward. Also just because they may not have a "half smile" perfected doesn't mean they haven't perfected other facial expressions. It's one of those things that we'll just have to wait and see when the game comes out. 

[CuriousArtemis]

To be honest, I felt that playing as Hawke and Shepard gave me the same kind of roleplay experience, so I don't see how some can hate one and like the other? Unless the argument is that we go back to the style of silent protagonists like Warden and Revan?

 

Yeah, I liked both too, although there was more variety with Hawke because you could make different personalities, whereas Shepard was always kind of the same guy/girl (even if s/he sometimes chose to punch someone instead of talk it out first ). 

 

Well you know the BSN was filled with loads of "DA2 SUCKS BRING BACK THE SILENT PC RAWRRRRR!!!!" posts a few years back, so yeah, loads of people would love that 

 

Personally I find it hard to form a personal connection with my character if he is dead silent, but everyone is different. Some people feel the voice isn't "them" and it's too hard to immerse themselves in the character. *shrugs*

[Chrys]

We gotta wait and see but I think I'm gonna miss the 3 personalities system.

[CuriousArtemis]

One of my favorite expressions was Hawke's "Oh sh!t" expression The look on his face (it was best on the male Hawke) in the prologue when Flemeth suddenly appears always cracks me up!

[CuriousArtemis]

We gotta wait and see but I think I'm gonna miss the 3 personalities system.

 

Well in this case I think we will have... 5 personalities? 6? Does anyone remember?

 

EDIT: Here they are:

 

1. Aggressive

2. Stoic

3. Confused

4. Neutral/diplomatic

5. Sarcastic

6. Tearful/upset

[Cerulione]

I think it is going to be down to the voice acting; seems facial expressions are still difficult for them to implement. The Dorian and Cullen scene was so great because the voice actors just nailed it; unfortunately, I have a feeling the inquisitor VAs were instructed to read their lines somewhat blandly, similar to Shepard, so that players wouldn't feel their character was being written for them in a way they didn't agree with.

 

Hawke had a LOT of personality in his/her voice (especially his voice) and the facial expressions were awesome! I think that's not going to be repeated here, especially since soooo many people complained about Hawke not being "their" character.

 

Don't forget about the reaction wheel. Presumably at some points we'll get to choose to do some genuine emoting. Other than that, I'm sadly starting to wonder if they went too far back to "neutral" after all the role play concerns, and now our PC is pretty emotionless most of the time. Time will tell tho.

 

That would be a shame, I really enjoyed replaying Hawke with different response just to see what change. Usually goody-goody Hawke will have that concerned face a lot, charming/humourous Hawke will twitch his/her eyebrow a lot with a smirk, and direct Hawke just put angry face.

 

But maybe actually that chess scene is simply like this: Cullen's hitting on the Quizzy and Quizzy decided to not be interested and just remind him that they're there for the work. So all said evenly

 

I kind of think that on that particular scene Cullen's actually hitting pretty hard on the Inquisitor while saying that it might be nice for them to pass time together not only talking about work.

[Chrys]

Well in this case I think we will have... 5 personalities? 6? Does anyone remember?

 

EDIT: Here they are:

 

1. Aggressive

2. Stoic

3. Confused

4. Neutral/diplomatic

5. Sarcastic

6. Tearful/upset

 

No, those are the icons. They said there won't be set personalities no matter how often you choose one kind of option.

[MidgetNemo]

One of my favorite expressions was Hawke's "Oh sh!t" expression The look on his face (it was best on the male Hawke) in the prologue when Flemeth suddenly appears always cracks me up!

I´m going to miss all those awkward jokes purple Hawke made I hope we can crack some bad ones here too

[Queen Rowan]

No, those are the icons. They said there won't be set personalities no matter how often you choose one kind of option.

 

I'm planning on turning those off anyway so my experience is more organic. 

[CuriousArtemis]

No, those are the icons. They said there won't be set personalities no matter how often you choose one kind of option.

 

Oh I know; yeah, you will not have a persistent personality because people (once again) b!tched and moaned about auto-dialogue and so they removed persistent personalities  I was pretty upset when I heard that, but hopefully simply by consistently choosing one or two personalities we will build our character that way. For example, I am hoping to have...

 

1. Auren: aggressive and stoic choices

2. Kael: sarcastic and friendly choices

3. third character: mostly tearful/scared choices so that if I romance Dorian with this character, I will have such a helpless and sad little quizzy that it will force Dorian to be a white knight figure whether he bloody wants to or not

[Kaibe]

For sure. I never claimed to want otherwise . I just believe it'll be possible to connect with Cullen as a Mage in a non-"rivalmance" way, even if the "Mage issue" is addressed. I hope it is. Like I said earlier, not addressing it detracts from the characters veracity/fidelity if it's never brought up.

Twitch Stream: any sign of someone posting it to YouTube? I can't watch twitch recordings on my phone. No flash player and the stupid mobile app doesn't show recordings

[CENIC]

Sarcastic FemHawke's "cat in the cream" expression...

[Hellion Rex]

We gotta wait and see but I think I'm gonna miss the 3 personalities system.

Meh, it got a little frustrating for me.

 

Perfectly fine with just having the three tones.

[BioFan (Official)]

Here it is!

 

 

[Iceyone]

I´m going to miss all those awkward jokes purple Hawke made I hope we can crack some bad ones here too

 

I always play as purple Hawke, even so, sometimes her responses made me cringe lol. The facial expressions really added to the dialogue for me though .

 

 

I'm planning on turning those off anyway so my experience is more organic. 

 

I might try doing that once I've had a playthrough. I don't think I'm brave enough to deal with the consequences of me being useless when it comes to picking up details and information in dialogue. Organic spells disaster for me, my Inquisitor and by extension for the Inquisition

[Sifr]

 

Personally I find it hard to form a personal connection with my character if he is dead silent, but everyone is different. Some people feel the voice isn't "them" and it's too hard to immerse themselves in the character. *shrugs*

 

Yeah, it's a shame some people disregard Male Shep entirely because of ME1, when in fairness, even FemShep was a little wooden and cold at times, which I think was less to do with Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale and just the way Shepard was written in the first game. Especially Paragon Shepard, who was kind of like Captain America in how positive and upbeat they were at every turn.

 

In ME2 and ME3 however, the character was written with much more humour and emotion, which gave Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale way much more to do with the characters and lead to them giving some sterling performances. I'll admit, I actually prefer Mark Meer in ME3 to Jennifer Hale, because as good as she was in that game, I think he nailed the emotional stuff far better.

 

Oh I know; yeah, you will not have a persistent personality because people (once again) b!tched and moaned about auto-dialogue and so they removed persistent personalities  I was pretty upset when I heard that, but hopefully simply by consistently choosing one or two personalities we will build our character that way.

 

Yeah, this is what I hope, that that the tone wheel gets to allow us to choose Paragon, Neutral or Renegade, as well as Polite, Funny, Rude. It'd be kind of fun if we can play as a Jerkass Paragon or a ridiculously polite Renegade?

 

"If it's not too much bother, could you fellows kindly decimate those bandits to teach them a lesson? And let me be clear, I want only one tenth of them killed, not the entire lot of them wiped out. Too many people misuse the word decimate, they too shall have to be dealt with... later!"

[Queen Rowan]

 

I might try doing that once I've had a playthrough. I don't think I'm brave enough to deal with the consequences of me being useless when it comes to picking up details and information in dialogue. Organic spells disaster for me, my Inquisitor and by extension for the Inquisition

 

That's totally understandable too. I can see myself turning it on quick if I get nervous about a tough decision. 

[Damate]

Thank you!!!