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Seriously...every time I see a new pic of him I have the urge to lick my computer screen.  :D


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Nice images from Japan.

 

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Woooooooooooo! My partner just bought me my very own Xbox One so I don't have to share with him when DA is released! *happy butt wiggle*

 

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Well someone got lucky!! Congrats! And def take the day off, I completely approve!


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#85029
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Seriously, who is this guy? My Tumblr is just smothered with him!  :P

 

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Soo, i couldn't find the exact answer anywhere but my question is: Do i have to have him in my inqusition? Can i choose not to recruit him (or even kill him)? Or is this set in stone and i have nothing to say in that matter and need to work with someone i despise completely.



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Soo, i couldn't find the exact answer anywhere but my question is: Do i have to have him in my inqusition? Can i choose not to recruit him (or even kill him)? Or is this set in stone and i have nothing to say in that matter and need to work with someone i despise completely.

 

I believe Cassandra recruits him before the Inquisitor joins the inquisition and you have no choice, he is your military advisor and commander of your army. They also won't leave you like companions will and I highly doubt you can get any of the advisors killed.

 

You may dislike him for what you've learned from the previous games but I would say at least give him a chance in this one, who knows he may surprise you?


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#85032
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You have to work with someone you despise completely. 


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Soo, i couldn't find the exact answer anywhere but my question is: Do i have to have him in my inqusition? Can i choose not to recruit him (or even kill him)? Or is this set in stone and i have nothing to say in that matter and need to work with someone i despise completely.

 

Yep, pretty much.  ;)


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If i lead the inqusition, shouldn't i have something to say in regard of the composition of my military staff?

Ehh i just hope that there willl be at least option to show him how little value i have to his advices (if not for directly spitting at him whenever he opens his mouth :P ) or give him some unimportant job in some remote tower so i dont need to see him too often.

For me his personality in both previous games was quite different, but both are awfull (as in he was an awfull person, not the writing of him) and its hard for me to decide which i dislike more, so even thinking of giving him another chance is making me shiver.

That would be a really downside for me to the whole game if i need to work with him and wont have option to despise him.

Sorry for my rant :(

And on a positive side, i do find him quite attractive in his new style in DAI. And thank you all for your answers.



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If i lead the inqusition, shouldn't i have something to say in regard of the composition of my military staff?

Ehh i just hope that there willl be at least option to show him how little value i have to his advices (if not for directly spitting at him whenever he opens his mouth :P ) or give him some unimportant job in some remote tower so i dont need to see him too often.

For me his personality in both previous games was quite different, but both are awfull (as in he was an awfull person, not the writing of him) and its hard for me to decide which i dislike more, so even thinking of giving him another chance is making me shiver.

That would be a really downside for me to the whole game if i need to work with him and wont have option to despise him.

Sorry for my rant :(

And on a positive side, i do find him quite attractive in his new style in DAI. And thank you all for your answers.

 

On the point of leading, technically you're not leading when the decision made so you get what you're given really. Also probably being an unknown with no experience leading such a large organisation it's unlike Cass would let you decide those choices esp not solely.

 

I'd say have an open mind. Because he's not a side character you'll have the opportunity to get to know better and ask him some questions. Maybe that will change your mind about him or maybe not but I wouldn't make judgement of him until you've played the game... at least how I feel.

I differ on the awful person part because I think it's easy to judge when not in someone else's shoes (yeah I know he's fictitious lol) but different strokes for different folks.


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#85036
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If i lead the inqusition, shouldn't i have something to say in regard of the composition of my military staff?

Ehh i just hope that there willl be at least option to show him how little value i have to his advices (if not for directly spitting at him whenever he opens his mouth :P ) or give him some unimportant job in some remote tower so i dont need to see him too often.

For me his personality in both previous games was quite different, but both are awfull (as in he was an awfull person, not the writing of him) and its hard for me to decide which i dislike more, so even thinking of giving him another chance is making me shiver.

That would be a really downside for me to the whole game if i need to work with him and wont have option to despise him.

Sorry for my rant :(

And on a positive side, i do find him quite attractive in his new style in DAI. And thank you all for your answers.

 

Lol, I'm pretty sure that if you want to show Cullen how much you dislike him you will be able to. He has his own tower so you can pretty much avoid him if you want to but he will be there every time you go to the war table. Cullen definitely has his faults but I will never see him as an awful person. He is nothing compared to the likes of Ser Alrik. If you are inclined in giving him a chance there is heaps of info about him on page one of this thread. And if you don't want to give him a chance then I suggest that you put the game on mute every time he talks and sit back and appreciate the pixels.  :D


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Soo, i couldn't find the exact answer anywhere but my question is: Do i have to have him in my inqusition? Can i choose not to recruit him (or even kill him)? Or is this set in stone and i have nothing to say in that matter and need to work with someone i despise completely.

 

There have been options in DA games in the past to show someone that you dislike them - and there have been 'I think you should leave' options too.  You won't get one of those for Cullen, for the reasons already given, but I expect you will at least be given the opportunity to have a fairly cold, formal working relationship with him. 



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oouch, so much vitriol in the morning... don't worry, nothing personal, it just saddens me when people are hostile and rude towards my fav characters, it feels for me like attacking my family members (even if they're fictional ;p)

in my opinion, cullen is the best example of a well developed and changing throughout the series character. he's said shitty things, he's done shitty things, but i have the feeling that he's matured enough now, to see how bad these were, and he wants to change that, he wants to be a better human being. that's what i am hoping for at least, and believe in his change, basing my hope on these little snippets of him we had before the release of the game.

for me the best characters are those, who are multi-layered, with difficult personalities, and so well written, that you can feel the realism glowing from them.

 

(tho i can't find any sympathy and love for da2 anders [probably the only one character in the whole series i really don't like, lol], sorry, he speaks too much bullshit to excuse his sorry 'bum', and the fact that hawke can't beat any sense to his tight skull in unnerving for me ;p)


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If you don't like him, don't let him do anything...

 

And I'm thinking the same about Anders. He became sad and enraged about templars and that changed him into a real monster... so does Justice inside him.


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If i lead the inqusition, shouldn't i have something to say in regard of the composition of my military staff?

Ehh i just hope that there willl be at least option to show him how little value i have to his advices (if not for directly spitting at him whenever he opens his mouth :P ) or give him some unimportant job in some remote tower so i dont need to see him too often.

For me his personality in both previous games was quite different, but both are awfull (as in he was an awfull person, not the writing of him) and its hard for me to decide which i dislike more, so even thinking of giving him another chance is making me shiver.

That would be a really downside for me to the whole game if i need to work with him and wont have option to despise him.

Sorry for my rant :(

And on a positive side, i do find him quite attractive in his new style in DAI. And thank you all for your answers.

 

You don't have any saying of your advisors since Cass and Leli started Inquisition and chose Cullen and Josephine. You got recruited as boss later on.

 

You can't completely avoid Cullen but you can chose not to go with his advises and just talk with him when it's necessary. You can probaply be rude to him like you could be in previous games but he might answer to you still in polite and friendly manner like he did in DA2 no matter your dialogue choices ;)


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I don't think it has to do with being pro-Circle or anti-mage. I'm very, very pro-mage and don't think all templars are eeeeevil.


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Here we go for anyone that wants to watch. Start at 2 minutes in.  :)

 


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#85043
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That's not how people here see him- we are fans after all. That's very pro-mage view of things, I'm more of Pro-Circle. Circle is needed to teach mages magic, otherwise they can't protect themselves or others from them.  Redcliffe over and over again. Templars are needed to guard mages, non-mages from mages and mages from non-mages. Wynne has dialogue in DAO where she says peasants often kill person who is revealed mage before templars got there to take them to tower. Templars just have very much corruption inside that makes them seem like this evil organisation. Cullen has noticed this too now: that templar order isn't fullfilling it's ideal.

 

Cullen doesn't despise mages, he fears them since he has been victim of group of mages. And he is multi-layered, one of reasons why I like him.

 

Idk, just my thoughts.

 

Which is completely understandable.

 

I wouldn't call myself "pro" anything because I can see the good and the bad on both sides and they feed off of each other.

I *personally* have an issue with some of what was previously said so I'm going to leave it at that.



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I don't think it has to do with being pro-Circle or anti-mage. I'm very, very pro-mage and don't think all templars are eeeeevil.

 

It kinda depends on people on what they see themselves and what we see others. Pro-Mage in my experiense is pretty much: death to all templars and lets free all mages no matter the cost. Being Pro-Circle I see myself as more moderate, against mage freedom but still on side of mages, just want them to get properly educated ^^; Well this is my experience.


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Or is this set in stone and i have nothing to say in that matter and need to work with someone i despise completely.

 

Cassandra recruited him...take it up with her.

I suggest that you take advice in the war room according to advisor type rather than personalities, and then ignore Cullens personal talks...see not difficult.

 

Oh and suck it up sunshine, I had to work with Anders to get the Darkroads maps...by killing Templar in the Chantry.  <_<  :angry:


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snippity snip... I see his view on world as srh similar to ww2 nazis and their treatment of jews . So being forced to have even cold formal working relationship with a nazi is not sth i can easily fall into. I like multilayered characters too, and i seen many others in DA saga that are much more comolicated than him, at least thats how i felt.

 

Yawn....Bullsh1t! Also you just lost any credibility by invoking Godwins Law...'anyone who doesn't agree with my worldview is a Nazi'

Before you even say it...I'm Jewish and lost family in the Holocaust, and I see no connection between the world of Thedas and WW2. Medieval europe, the crusades, the spanish inquisition...yes.

 

I get that you don't like Cullen, that's ok, just don't start comparing things that have no relevence because it is the 'in' thing to discredit people. I had enough of this cr4p during the Israel-Gaza conflict when peoples homes got firebombed in Paris just because they were Jews.

 

Good way to the ignore troll list.


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OMFG THIS IS BEAUTIFUL!

 


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Well, in short cullen for me is a prison guard, who despise his victims for them not liking how tjey are treated. I see his view on world as srh similar to ww2 nazis and their treatment of jews . So being forced to have even cold formal working relationship with a nazi is not sth i can easily fall into. I like multilayered characters too, and i seen many others in DA saga that are much more comolicated than him, at least thats how i felt.

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you need to play DA2 again.  I have always found it difficult to play pro-Templar, because there is much in the way the Mages are treated that chimes with some of my own family background and I find it difficult to get past that - but even just watching the clip that Boom posted will show you that he is far from being a Nazi.  He tells you in the clip what he sees as the purpose of the Templars.  Unfortunately their commander has gone mad, and is corrupting that purpose.  He does stand against her.  One of my ancestors was a redcoat in the British army, who was involved in a mutiny when they were ordered to do something that they felt British soldiers shouldn't be doing.  Like Cullen, they'd already participated in events that had pushed them to the limit, and even though they knew they could be shot, they reached their limit, and they stood their ground.  Interestingly, they were all discharged, not shot.  Which might well have been what's happened to Cullen in the interim.  I don't recall any tales of Nazis doing something similar.


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I think we should all avoid comparisons to such real world situations, so let's all just drop it. The one thing I find interesting is the word nazi used to be banned from use on the old BSN, probably for this reason.  Sadly, no longer, but let's do our best to avoid its use.

 

There have been lots of really nice suggestions for folks to read more about Cullen (*hugs Cullen thread regulars*). There is also the OP's FAQ which has additional information. I think we can let this one lie for now. 


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@R2 nice job on chapter 6 of Fool's Errand  :) (as always!)

Can't wait for more!! :D


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