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Does anyone have a link to that Mike Laidlaw interview at PAX Aus?



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Truly. I mean, there has to be something that sends him packing. If there is a "bad" decision to be made that ruins your chances, I guarantee I'll accidentally pick it. LOL



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So Confession time.

 

Who else is worried that they'll exhaust the Cullen romance budget too early in the game so that by halfway, all he'll say to you is . . . "Such as they are." ?? :/

 

*Raises hand*


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Does anyone have a link to that Mike Laidlaw interview at PAX Aus?



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What if Gilmore and Cullen are related somehow. That would be kind of neat. It would kind of be neat as well I'd we meet up with his family and he maybe finds out that one of his siblings is a mage and maybe possibly died at the hands of crazy templars.
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Truly. I mean, there has to be something that sends him packing. If there is a "bad" decision to be made that ruins your chances, I guarantee I'll accidentally pick it. LOL

 

I wonder what would happen if you annoyed him enough? I think ML said that the advisors don't leave the Inquisition, so what would happen instead? Like, what if you decide to sleep with him and then dump his arse straight after? Or are so rude to him that he literally hates your guts? Will he just refuse to speak to you unless it's for official Inquisition business? Can any of the advisors actually die? Like right at the end of something, since obvious we'll need them during the game, so they can't exactly be killed off then.



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I wonder what would happen if you annoyed him enough? I think ML said that the advisors don't leave the Inquisition, so I what would happen instead? Like, what if you decide to sleep with him and then dump his arse straight after? Or are so rude to him that he literally hates your guts? Will he just refuse to speak to you unless it's for official Inquisition business? Can any of the advisors actually die? Like right at the end of something, since obvious we'll need them during the game, so they can't exactly be killed off then.

I wonder about this, too. Heh. Just watch, the advisors will end up being the ninjamancers this time around.  No matter what you do, Cullen is into you and becomes a Number 11. Til you're pushing him off constantly. "goddammit, Cullen, NO, I don't want to play chess. Go back and stand in the corner!" LOL


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Just stumbled across this and it made me laugh... I imagine it's how Cullen's romance arc plays out if you make the wrong choices:

 

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Okay, brilliant art BUT...drool, spit, dribble.....whatever that is... :sick: and she has her mouth slightly open  :o  I would barf right back at him if that happened to me :pinched:

 

Maybe I'm just in a positive mood today or maybe it's just wishful thinking but Cullens romance being the mega-angsty one seems much too obvious for Bioware. Most of what we know about Ser Cullen up until now is pretty dark, emotional and would give a world of ammunition for an angst charged story arc and romance. I actually don't think they will have taken him down that path, I'm not suggesting it will be worry free (wouldn't be a BW relationship if that were the case!) but you know what? I think we are onto a winner with this guy! :wizard: <3



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From the looks of things Cullen seems to be well up for a bit of romance and flirting, LOL! Not gonna lie, I'm gonna be a bit disappointed if he's so confident with it that there's no flustered tongue tied reactions from him at all. 



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So Confession time.
 
Who else is worried that they'll exhaust the Cullen romance budget too early in the game so that by halfway, all he'll say to you is . . . "Such as they are." ?? :/


I wasn't until now =) I am going to change my normal talking routen to make sure the romance doesn't burn out quickly.
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So Confession time.
 
Who else is worried that they'll exhaust the Cullen romance budget too early in the game so that by halfway, all he'll say to you is . . . "Such as they are." ?? :/


Not me. I'm more worried that it'll be incorporated clumsily into existing conversations between the Inquisitor and Cullen that aren't in a romance, meaning we end up with either large chunks of characterisation missing or the entire scene just jumps from one tone and emotion to the next. That and no one will properly comment on it, like the way there wasn't really any companion banter for FemWarden x Leliana.
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I'd hope there's at least a bit of angst in his romance arc. I mean, I don't want constant drama from it, but just a little. I'm gonna be playing as a human mage, so I'd be surprised if he's 100% cool with suddenly romancing one given his past.


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Maybe I'm just in a positive mood today or maybe it's just wishful thinking but Cullens romance being the mega-angsty one seems much too obvious for Bioware. Most of what we know about Ser Cullen up until now is pretty dark, emotional and would give a world of ammunition for an angst charged story arc and romance. I actually don't think they will have taken him down that path, I'm not suggesting it will be worry free (wouldn't be a BW relationship if that were the case!) but you know what? I think we are onto a winner with this guy! :wizard: <3

There's no story to tell if it's not angsty, tho. Same reason Varric wasn't an LI in DA2. There will be problems within the romance arc, even if it eventually has a happy ending. I'm pretty confident about the happy ending, but also that there will be a rollercoaster between here and there of some kind. That's just storytelling, Mary Kirby tells us: "A fictional romance requires conflict."


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"You can't have that [romance] arc without conflict. Something has to stand in the way of love -- emotional scars, or fears of society's reprisals, or a character's own insecurities.

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"The drama has to be why they can't be together. That's the crux of a love story, and where the tension comes from. Cinderella can't be with the prince because of social station, and because he does not know her identity. Darcy can't be with Elizabeth because of social station and because she thinks he is the biggest jerk in the universe. Romeo can't be with Juliette because their families don't approve. Buttercup can't be with Westley because he is murdered by pirates. In just about every 80s movie ever, the girl and boy can't be together because one of them is uselessly pursuing someone else who is totally wrong for them."

 

http://forum.bioware...84#entry6654970


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I wish Mary would post more often...
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"You can't have that [romance] arc without conflict. Something has to stand in the way of love -- emotional scars, or fears of society's reprisals, or a character's own insecurities.

...

"The drama has to be why they can't be together. That's the crux of a love story, and where the tension comes from. Cinderella can't be with the prince because of social station, and because he does not know her identity. Darcy can't be with Elizabeth because of social station and because she thinks he is the biggest jerk in the universe. Romeo can't be with Juliette because their families don't approve. Buttercup can't be with Westley because he is murdered by pirates. In just about every 80s movie ever, the girl and boy can't be together because one of them is uselessly pursuing someone else who is totally wrong for them."

 

http://forum.bioware...84#entry6654970

Well now I'm just wondering what Cullen's problem is going to be....



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Well now I'm just wondering what Cullen's problem is going to be....

Yeah, I don't know that it has to be significant. Look at Alistair, right? That was just... I dunno, nerves ?  Inexperience? 

 

For Cullen, it could easily be something as mild as "you're my commander, it's not appropriate" or "we're at war, so it's not appropriate." Could be as big as "you're a mage, so it's not appropriate/makes me uncomfortable/raises old fears," but not everyone will be a mage, so that can't be the core of it. 



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There's no story to tell if it's not angsty, tho. Same reason Varric wasn't an LI in DA2. There will be problems within the romance arc, even if it eventually has a happy ending. I'm pretty confident about the happy ending, but also that there will be a rollercoaster between here and there of some kind. That's just storytelling, Mary Kirby tells us: "A fictional romance requires conflict."

 

That was a good read!


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Yeah, I don't know that it has to be significant. Look at Alistair, right? That was just... I dunno, nerves ?  Inexperience? 

 

For Cullen, it could easily be something as mild as "you're my commander, it's not appropriate" or "we're at war, so it's not appropriate." Could be as big as "you're a mage, so it's not appropriate/makes me uncomfortable/raises old fears," but not everyone will be a mage, so that can't be the core of it. 

 

Yeah, the mage thing would need to be an additional issue if you played as one.



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Sheesh, way to burst a girls bubble! Lol, I know there has to be drama, its DA and Bioware afterall, I'm fully expecting some "eek" & "wtf?" moments. I don't mind those atall, I just don't want to see forced splits or deaths (for any companion!). There is a fine line for me between an element of drama and lump in the throat stuff and storylines that make me so depressed that I won't or can't play them again lol. I know it's only a game but I take these things to heart (I'm a softie lol).

 

I'm not massively concerned about the dialogue pacing although it has crossed my mind, we know that the bulk/majority of romance content takes place in Skyhold and we don't get there straight out of the gates.

I think there might be a degree of forced pacing in DAI, it may be subtle but I think it will exist tied to quest, dialogue and even Skyhold/Inquisition progression. In DAO there was no obvious pacing, you could pretty much max out your friendships/romance with gifts, some carefully chosen dialogue options and you cemented the deal around the personal quests, as the player we were 90% in control of when that all happened. In DA2 the pacing was very much dictated and forced, you couldn't progress (even if you wanted to) the relationships beyond certain parameters within each act. I have a feeling and hope that they may have struck the balance this time around :).


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I think of it more like the pact that my husband and I have: if the zombie apocalypse comes and I get bit, he has to shoot me before I turn :P

That is... an interesting way to put it. :) Though I'm afraid it won't work for me. But it makes me wonder about your pact: if your husband gets bitten first and you have to shoot him, could you do it?



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I still think we have already seen him in that one video .

http://https://www.y...h?v=UmVKGl-hTyM

 

You think Alistair is the one next to Hawke? :D

 

EDIT: Sorry. I posted this before reading the next page on the thread. .........Not sure it's him, but who knows, right? :D We'll found out soon enough. :)



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I'd hope there's at least a bit of angst in his romance arc. I mean, I don't want constant drama from it, but just a little. I'm gonna be playing as a human mage, so I'd be surprised if he's 100% cool with suddenly romancing one given his past.

 

Well if you send him to Redcliffe and he gets tortured...I'm sure the romance may hit a bump or two if you are a mage. Didn't they say that it turned Leliana against mages? Not that I'm sending Cullen there...well I'm 99% sure I'm not, as ususal the game may change things.

 

I mean that I expect a fair amount of angst is likely to be caused by our own actions this time around. More reactive characters.


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"You can't have that [romance] arc without conflict. Something has to stand in the way of love -- emotional scars, or fears of society's reprisals, or a character's own insecurities.

...

"The drama has to be why they can't be together. That's the crux of a love story, and where the tension comes from. Cinderella can't be with the prince because of social station, and because he does not know her identity. Darcy can't be with Elizabeth because of social station and because she thinks he is the biggest jerk in the universe. Romeo can't be with Juliette because their families don't approve. Buttercup can't be with Westley because he is murdered by pirates. In just about every 80s movie ever, the girl and boy can't be together because one of them is uselessly pursuing someone else who is totally wrong for them."

 

http://forum.bioware...84#entry6654970

 

Noodles has the emotional scars part.

Trevelyan could suffer from the social station part, or lack thereof

Outside pressures: Chantry, family etc....

 

But yes, I suspect some feels along the way.



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Hey everyone. I'm gone to Maui for a week and a half, but I've had so much fun on here since I joined in and I'm going to miss this. 

 

Enjoy 16-18 days until the inquisition!


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