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I know so BW better have done the best job ever. I don't think I could take another DA 2 let down. From the previews of the game I don't think it could be that bad but a bigger world doesn't mean a better one.

True. But that's not the only new thing about the game. I have big hopes for this game. I guess many of us have. Let us hope we won't be disappointed. :)

 

As for DA2, I can't say I was disappointed. Yes, there are things I wasn't happy with, but I liked the game. Still do. And DAO. And even if I go long back to ME. I was one of the people who weren't content with ME3's endings (amongst others things)... I mean, few were. :D But despite that, ME will remain one of the best games I've ever played.



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DA2 was a let down for me. I was going along fine until Act III. They wrote Anders betrayal in a completely transparent fashion. I played the whole way knowing it was coming. The first time through, I kept waiting for the chance to talk him out of making his bomb (what else do you do with a potion that has gunpowder ingredients?) as I was romancing him with 100% approval, but it never came.

 

It was after that on subsequent play throughs that I also realized how much you never really do much of anything except show up too late to make any real difference at all.

 

And I'll just avoid discussing ME3. It was a long, long time before I could even make myself play past the London FOB, even with the Extended Cut, because IMO it only doubled down on some of the biggest problems I had with the ending.

 

I think the DA2 problems though were caused primarly by not having enough time more than anything. Most of my complaints with it could have been rectified by it having a longer development cycle because they were issues that seemed to deal more with not having time and being rushed than anything else (issues that QA and editing in the writing process could have helped take care of). That game had potential that it couldn't deliver on.


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So many vids! Almost too many! I wanted to take a screen shot in one of them earlier in the week, and now I've forgotten which one it was. I think it was a Twitch stream from a couple of days ago? I don't think it's really spoilery - there was a scene with I think the advisors and a few of the first companions in front of a building, not yet Skyhold, perhaps at Haven? Then the Inquisition banner unfolds at the top of the building. If it rings any bells with anyone, could you remind me which video it was in? Thanks so much!



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Hey cullenites :D A little bit off topic here,so the DA:I is coming very soon and I was very curious about your future inquisitors.It would be really nice if you decribe their possible appearence,character and traits.

 

...don't ask me to talk about my characters, I will never shut up. :ph34r:

 

So my main Inquisitor (and Cullen romancer, to keep it sort of on topic) is Ariana Trevelyan, a 33~? years old human archer. Physically, she's half-Antivan, so her skin is the same typical Antivan dark tan/light black tone of Zevran/Josephine; with olive/mud/vomit-green eyes and dark brown hair. Her personality depends on who she's talking to. To the general public eye, she's assertive, arrogant and manipulative, a posture learned from a lifetime of playing the usual nobility power struggle games. In private with her friends, she's actually very laid-back, easy-going, mouth and mind dirty like a sailor's, would rather a night cracking gross sex jokes with her cup buddies at the nastiest tavern in town over a fancy dinner party with the rich and famous. In super super private, she's secretly very lonely and starved for some genuine affection in her life, be that making at least one true friend in the world since she has none actually worth a copper, or finding someone worth both loving and being loved by, a true and real kind of love she's never known before. (spoilers: that's where Cullen comes in :P)

 

Her background:

Spoiler

 

And finally, to drag this monster tl;dr back on topic - Ariana will fall in love with Cullen, because he is pretty much everything she's ever wanted in a partner: a good, honest man, true to himself and the things he believes in (when everyone around her back home is a fraud sitting on a pile of gold-trimmed lies), centered and balanced enough to even out her cray, firm and assertive when she needs him to be the pillar of strength of her Inquisition, but also kind and supportive when she needs him to just be a friend (I'm still not over him actually asking how the Inquisitor feels)... and of course, as the panty-dropping smirk has proven, Commander in the streets, mountain lion in the sheets. :whistle:


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Crisis averted, tide on the ebb and we only got some seaweed on the path *phew* :D Got to say I was getting nervous watching the waves crash over lol. I can go to bed nice and calm now :)

 

I don't think I've ever been as excited about a games release, I totally blame all of you & Cullen for that :D


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DA2 was a let down for me. I was going along fine until Act III. They wrote Anders betrayal in a completely transparent fashion. I played the whole way knowing it was coming. The first time through, I kept waiting for the chance to talk him out of making his bomb (what else do you do with a potion that has gunpowder ingredients?) as I was romancing him with 100% approval, but it never came.

 

It was after that on subsequent play throughs that I also realized how much you never really do much of anything except show up too late to make any real difference at all.

 

And I'll just avoid discussing ME3. It was a long, long time before I could even make myself play past the London FOB, even with the Extended Cut, because IMO it only doubled down on some of the biggest problems I had with the ending.

 

I think the DA2 problems though were caused primarly by not having enough time more than anything. Most of my complaints with it could have been rectified by it having a longer development cycle because they were issues that seemed to deal more with not having time and being rushed than anything else (issues that QA and editing in the writing process could have helped take care of). That game had potential that it couldn't deliver on.

Yeah, one of the things I wasn't happy with DA2 (as I stated in my previous post ;)) does include Anders' betrayal (does that make me crazy to still be an Anders fan? :D). I didn't like that aspect. And I also didn't like that we were forced to choose one side or the other (mages or templars). But, yeah. the fact that BW had a very short time for the game development, is one of the reasons why I tolerate many things in DA2, and don't make a disappointment out of the entire game.

 

As for ME, I did mention I wasn't happy with the endings, also amongst other things. But I agree this is not the time or the place to bring to discussion such topics, specially ME. Let us enjoy Cullen, because this thread is dedicated to him, and we are the Cullenites!!!  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:


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Crisis averted, tide on the ebb and we only got some seaweed on the path *phew* :D Got to say I was getting nervous watching the waves crash over lol. I can go to bed nice and calm now :)

 

Phew, that's great to hear. I was actually worrying about you here, good to hear you're safe. ^_^ 


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Well, this time they have hopefully had plenty of time to get the writing down pat, so we won't be busy staring at our screens and wondering what they were thinking over what any of the characters just said or did.

 

I hope.

 

I really, really hope.

 

In fact, I'll forgive a lot if they just get the story right. :)



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My three favorite things to come out of DA 2 : Seeing Cullen grow, Fenris ( Tall dark and elfie) and Varric. As far as Anders I want you to go back and play through the game seeing him as nothing but a user and then tell me what you think. Even compair Fenris and Anders lines when bumping into them,

Fenris: "I am at your side." or " Ask and it is done."

Anders: " I think we should focus on the task at hand."

 

Even the ending with both of them Fenris just seems so much more sincer. Anders kissed up to you to get you to do what he wants and as soon as you do it his way all the so called affection that was there is gone. Anders, himself even admitts he is a charmer.

Both of them have strong agendas but atleast one of them wont walk all over you and crush your spirit to acheive his.

I say Anders is the DEVIL!


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Hey cullenites :D A little bit off topic here,so the DA:I is coming very soon and I was very curious about your future inquisitors.It would be really nice if you decribe their possible appearence,character and traits.As for me,in my first playthrough I will definitely play as a human female mage and I will try to make her diplomatic and kind and considering the mage/templar conflict,I think I am gonna side with mages.

Well, originally, my first PT was going to be Zhenya Cadash, a sword-and-board warrior with blond curly hair, and fair skin (the latest iteration at least). Easy going, hard-drinking, but don't p**s her off, pragmatic, but will do her best to not hurt people unless there's no choice (but will deny it vehemently). Romancing IB. Now, I've got major doubts. I'm going to have to see the female dwarf bodytype in game since I find it so offputting as a dwarf, plus I need to find out if IB's romance falls on the side of sexy/erotic or just crude. Don't really want to play Ryumka Trevelyan, a mage-Cullen LI, or  my qunari or elven rogues (3rd and 4th originally) first because I like warriors on my first PTs, so... it's starting to look like an unnamed Dalish warrior who was 5th or 6th choice will be first since I can actually convince myself that they have unusual body strength for their build since both males and females are so slender. The only thing awkward there was she was supposed to romance Josephine, and that's not a high priority romance for me :P . And because she was so far down the list, she doesn't have a name or appearance or even a personality yet. Guess I'd better get thinking that through :D .


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#89186
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I loved DA2. I was a very casual DA fan back then, though. I bought both games used a couple of years ago on a whim, marathon played it, and it was probably one of the best decisions ever. It wasn't until I looked into the fandom that I realized how much people hated DA2. That was a... shock. :P I thought a lot of DA2 was better than DAO, even. 

 

I didn't like the lack of impact your choices had, though. I especially disliked the lack of choice in things that NEED a choice. Like, I also saw Anders' betrayal coming a mile away, and I THOUGHT a friendship path would keep the explosion from happening, but nope. Nope. The only time I felt I really had a bit of impact on what was happening was in Act II. Then it all went to hell. I was so in love with the games I didn't notice until much later, lol. 

 

I kind of hate that I'm following this game now. I'll probably be disappointed in the story in some way, even if it's perfect, lol. I need to lower my expectations a bit. 

 

And while we're talking about Inquisitors: 

 

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Done =)


Thank you~

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Let's not do Fenris versus Anders, or Anders was right/Anders was wrong in this thread, ok guys?  <3 Both have the potential to go very bad very fast, and neither belongs in the Cullen thread anyway. ;)


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I loved DA2. I was a very casual DA fan back then, though. I bought both games used a couple of years ago on a whim, marathon played it, and it was probably one of the best decisions ever. It wasn't until I looked into the fandom that I realized how much people hated DA2. That was a... shock. :P I thought a lot of DA2 was better than DAO, even. 

 

I didn't like the lack of impact your choices had, though. I especially disliked the lack of choice in things that NEED a choice. Like, I also saw Anders' betrayal coming a mile away, and I THOUGHT a friendship path would keep the explosion from happening, but nope. Nope. The only time I felt I really had a bit of impact on what was happening was in Act II. Then it all went to hell. I was so in love with the games I didn't notice until much later, lol. 

 

I kind of hate that I'm following this game now. I'll probably be disappointed in the story in some way, even if it's perfect, lol. I need to lower my expectations a bit. 

 

And while we're talking about Inquisitors: 

 

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 Well with DA 2 it is my understanding that you couldn't talk Anders out of it because if he didn't do it we wouldn't have a story line for inquisitions. That is kind of why they forced you into the mold they did.



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This is something I never knew. I don't think I remember someone telling me... or my memory is bugged, lol!
 
But seriously, he feels pain when touched? Literally?

Yeah according to Gaider, he only allows Hawke to touch him, and for some reason never get the pain thing with her/him.

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Who do y'all think Cullen will get along most with in the Inquisition besides (of course  ;)  <3) the Inquisitor? What about least?



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Eh, I'm not comparing the two. I actually liked all the companions in DA2 with Merrill being my least favorite even though I still liked her. If anything I was criticizing the writing.

 

The only DA companion I actually haven't liked so far is Oghren, but that's neither here nor there.

 

As far as romances go, my favorite BioWare romance so far is still Kaidan, but I'm hoping that Cullen gives him a run for his money.



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I believe Fenris rejects a Male Hawke because Danarius might have abused him sexually. So, being with another man reminds him of that painful experience. Hell, he was probably raped by the mage and had at one point to come to terms with it so as not to break down.

 

The only reason why someone is disgusted by sex is because they had terrible previous experience. Never mind how many partners you had or how many times you did it. If it was bad, you won't want it anymore. 

 

Which is why the scene of rejection with female Hawke never made much sense to me. Unless a woman also abused him. But I suppose that's highly unlikely.



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The problem of trying to speculate whom Cullen will get along with is that we won't get to put him in our party. So unless the characters move around like they did in Normandy and interact (hopefully there are lots of little scenes like the Dorian/Cullen chess vid we've seen), it will be hard to tell where the advisors stand with the rest of the companions.

 

He might get along with Viv better than a lot of people think, and it will be interesting to see how Kirkewall affects what goes on between him and Varric.



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 Well with DA 2 it is my understanding that you couldn't talk Anders out of it because if he didn't do it we wouldn't have a story line for inquisitions. That is kind of why they forced you into the mold they did.

 

Well, I can't disagree with that. :P The whole game did feel like a prequel to DAI, and I kind of consider it as such. Not necessarily a bad thing, but the lack of choice was such a tough thing to deal with when you look at DAO. 

 

And Oghren is the only companion I kinda disliked, as well. I never even got Fenris for most of my playthroughs until I looked at guides, lmao. I kinda don't like him much either, something off about him. 



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It's mentionned somewhere. In any case David Gaider who wrote Fenris told us not to dwell on that fact. So it's maybe like more personal headcannon than anything else. Actually when you got that romance scene with Hawke grab his arm and the marking glows, he winced. And then Hawke asked him whether it was physically painful after *doing* it that makes him uncomfortable, he said it's not that.

 

 

Yeah according to Gaider, he only allows Hawke to touch him, and for some reason never get the pain thing with her/him.

So, which one of you has the correct info? Or it can be misinterpreted? :D



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I say Anders is the DEVIL!

 

I say Anders is like Jesus, he sacrificed himself for the good of the mages!



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 Well with DA 2 it is my understanding that you couldn't talk Anders out of it because if he didn't do it we wouldn't have a story line for inquisitions. That is kind of why they forced you into the mold they did.

I have thought about this many times....


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I believe Fenris rejects a Male Hawke because Danarius might have abused him sexually. So, being with another man reminds him of that painful experience. Hell, he was probably raped by the mage and had at one point to come to terms with it so as not to break down.

 

The only reason why someone is disgusted by sex is because they had terrible previous experience. Never mind how many partners you had or how many times you did it. If it was bad, you won't want it anymore. 

 

Which is why the scene of rejection with female Hawke never made much sense to me. Unless a woman also abused him. But I suppose that's highly unlikely.

 

Well, Hadriana is a woman. And she had clearly abused him.


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So, which one of you has the correct info? Or it can be misinterpreted? :D

both I guess