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[TeganJ]

Oof, made it through all that and managed to avoid the spoilers. Loved the CC video but I think I'm going to avoid all others from here on out - want to wait until I can actually play before I see any more. Unfortunately I'll have to wait a little longer than originally planned - silly work and adding stuff I can't get out of on the 18th and 19th! Don't they know there are more important things going on then!?

Oh, and if anyone was wondering about the fit on the Cullen tank, I found that ordering the same size I normally order for ladies fit tees from the Bioware store fit just fine. And there was no weird pulling across the chest that sometimes happens with designs that are placed there. YMMV, of course, but I am well pleased with it and can't wait to wear it when I can finally sit down and play.

[Panda]

Greetings all.

 

I'm pretty sure this was discussed at length the moment the Cullen/Dorian Thedasian chess cutscene was revealed but y'all know me...always late for everything.

 

Anyway, the fact that Cullen is enjoying a bit of downtime with a mage is quite a revelation when you consider his feeling towards magic-users over the course of these past two games. That being said, was there any speculation from Cullenites on why you believe this is so? Has Cullen softened his stance on mages because he realizes that not every mage is an abomination-in-waiting? Or do you think it might might have something to do with Dorian's pariah status in the Tevinter Imperium?

 

Or it just might be that a certain female mage Inquisitor (Inquisitress?) may have tempered his heart...  

 

I think some of Cullen's previous attitude became from being charge of mages in DA2. Since he was in powerful position as Knight-Captain I think he distanced himself for purpose too, no good of getting too close with people you are supposed to look after I guess. He's not templar anymore in DAI so maybe he doesn't feel need to distance himself anymore and watch over mages.

 

In other hand I do think his view toward mages has softened overall. He was pretty friendly with mages in DAO but changed his view of them after Broken Circle completely after being tortured by group of mages. I think he might be healing from that as well and has made some progress.

 

Then third point, he overall seems much more relaxed and confident in DAI when he was clearly stressed in the DA2, poor thing didn't even get sleep! Kirkwall's tense athmosphere probaply didn't do good for him either and so he's more relaxed in DAI and that shows in  his attitude towards mages as well. Maybe he trustes Inquisition's mages more as well than Kirkwall's.

 

[Panda]

I get the feeling lots of players will antagonize with Cullen. Afer I saw a playthrough, most of his advice is centered on making a military occupation. It's not a kind of "shoot first, ask questions later" policy, but something akin to it.

 

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For instance, when dealing with the Dalish, he proposes sending troops to "visit" the clan and make sure they understand the message. In other words, to use brute force against innocents. Not everyone will sympathize with this and may come to think he's just some sort of big, stupid bully. 

 

(In the same quest, Leliana has a much cleverer proposal. She shows an understanding of Dalish culture, saying they don't believe in words, but in deeds and suggests offering them something they need as a gesture of good faith. It's the right decision in order to deal with a foreign people.) 

 

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Also, when discussing how to increase the Inquisitor's magic power, he proposes going to the templars, when seeking mages is the obvious choice. Templars may be safer, but they don't have a sufficient amount of power to equal that of a mage. 

 

But then again, those choices were out of his field of knowledge (diplomacy and magic). So when the Inquisitor is faced with strategic decisions that involve deploying troops, choosing where to open fronts, defending supply lines and other military choices, Cullen will come out as the one with the best advice on the table.

 

That's what I like about Bioware. You end up learning a lot about how to manage information and use it wisely. Nothing is automated. You must think before you act, and that requires intelligence. Most games are just move stick+push button. 

 

The thing here is that Cullen is bound to always take military approach or not give advice for the Inquisitor regards matter. The game mechanics work like that since he's our military leader. So I wonder how much for example sending army to Lavellan's clan is his personality and how much of it is writing cause Cullen needs to give military approach even in for situation where military approach don't seem good choice at all (like that one).

 

If I remember there was one choice where Josephine had really not confident and vague answer what she would do regards some matter when Leliana had it all clear out. So it seems that for some choices other advisors are better than others

[Chrys]

Nah, people aren't really leaving. It's late at night, and usually the thread slows down around now anyways. And a few people are just getting a little annoyed at the cavalier attitude towards spoilers, which is like walking through a minefield.

 

Hmm, I don't see a cavalier attitude about spoilers. In fact, people here have been a lot more careful posting things under spoiler tags than in most other threads.

[imbeia]

While I spammed invitations MP group, my Origin said prepare to download DAI - I am prepared for playing damn you Origin!

 

anyway, some Cullen

 

http://galagraphia.tumblr.com/

 

(I saw earlier sides through and I didn't find this art, I hope that I`m not repeating after somebody`s post)

 

and

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http://snicketdoodles.tumblr.com/

[Panda]

Hmm, I don't see a cavalier attitude about spoilers. In fact, people here have been a lot more careful posting things under spoiler tags than in most other threads.

 

Apparently for those who have suscribed thread the things under spoiler tags will be shown in emails so that's problem for those people who don't want get spoilered but want to subsribe thread.

 

That said I don't think even things under spoiler tags have been very spoilering, they have been mostly: just to be sure spoiler tags. I haven't seen major spoilers around here which is nice Though there is always the thing that different people think about spoilers differently, some avoid all spoilers, some major spoilers etc.

[Iceyone]

Gah! Out of likes again.......stop posting the awesomez people!

 

Farewell to my spoiler avoiding fellow Cullenites, I understand why you are going dark and hopefully the time will pass by quickly and painlessly until we can gather again! Take care and see you all soon

I'm not going anywhere, I'll just get more selective as to what I try to see or not see, just because people are leaving for a wee bit, please be respectful to others that are staying. Anybody has invite rights for the Spoiler Group, so let's try and keep any DAI specific stuff in there. It's hard to know what's spoilery and what's not so let's go with a motto for this thread "If in doubt, leave it out" Post here saying you've posted in the group by all means and we can head there for chatting about it .

[morie91]

ok, i think this day has come for me

things are getting too spoiler-y in my opinion, and i would rather avoid "accidentally learning" about the game and story more

it's highly possible i won't reappear on the forum until i beat the game at least once, so i won't come here again earlier than in a month ;n;

 

but do not be afraid! those who want to speak with me still can contact me via forum's private message or origin (:

[LolaLei]

The final 2/3 weeks is always the worst. I managed to avoid all spoilers for ME3 until the final 2 weeks... where I read the entire leaked script.  I'm desperately trying to avoid anymore spoilers but it's getting hard, especially since I can't exactly abandon social media for a fortnight now that I run a YouTube channel 'n' stuff.

[Milan92]

Only 12 days left! We can do it!

[Milady]

This is going to be agonizing.. Wait scrap that. IT IS already agonizing!

[Asperath]

The final 2/3 weeks is always the worst. I managed to avoid all spoilers for ME3 until the final 2 weeks... where I read the entire leaked script.  I'm desperately trying to avoid anymore spoilers but it's getting hard, especially since I can't exactly abandon social media for a fortnight now that I run a YouTube channel 'n' stuff.

 

I can imagine it's a lot easier for those of us without that pressure to bury our heads in the sand until we get the game.

I actually mentioned you in that regard to the chick at EB games today saying how hard it must be to avoid spoilers in your position.

 

Hopefully the time will go quickly & you don't get exposed to anything major.

[alwayshungry]

http://mellorianjart...he-meeting-room

 

http://holly-magnina...ountains-anyway

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http://snicketdoodle...-the-inquisitor

[Milady]

For anyone.. Cullen in a swimsuit.. not sure if it's NSFW, so I'm just going to post the link here

http://loonyloopy.tu...o-swim-suddenly

[R2s Muse]

R2, at this point, I would suggest you simply unsubscribe to emails from this thread, cause I don't think it's gonna stop, cause clearly people aren't being the least bit cognizant or respectful of those who can still see the spoilers in emails. People aren't getting the hint.

Yeah, I'm reconsidering my approach moving forward. I think it may be time to move to the non-spoiler group since even with working spoiler tags, folks keep talking about it and it's not hard to read between the lines. It's also maddening. 

[R2s Muse]

Apparently for those who have suscribed thread the things under spoiler tags will be shown in emails so that's problem for those people who don't want get spoilered but want to subsribe thread.

 

That said I don't think even things under spoiler tags have been very spoilering, they have been mostly: just to be sure spoiler tags. I haven't seen major spoilers around here which is nice Though there is always the thing that different people think about spoilers differently, some avoid all spoilers, some major spoilers etc.

The thing is... you don't know how spoilery it is until you read it. Which then is obviously too late.

[meanieweenie]

Pending some unforseen event that would lure me back... I'm thinking I will probably just wait it out and see you all in a few weeks. So TTFN, sayonara, auf Wiedersehen and do svidanya for now... or until my willpower breaks. 

[MiSS Provencale]

http://mellorianjart...he-meeting-room

 

http://holly-magnina...ountains-anyway

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http://snicketdoodle...-the-inquisitor

adorable!!!

[R2s Muse]

As a parting gift for today,
 
12 Days of Cullen: Day 2
 
On the Second Day of Cullen, my templar gave to me …
 
Two blooms of Andraste’s Grace,



and a lion helmet just for me!

[Cerulione]

Cullen has spent a lot of time around mages over the course of his life as a Templar. Sure, he had a very bad experience with Uldred in the Circle Tower of Ferelden, but I'd like to think that his experiences with the worst that Templars are capable of with Meredith tempered his harsh feelings left over from that incident.

 

If nothing else, he showed himself capable of judging a person as an individual rather than as a mage or something else at least twice over depending on how you dealt with him in DA:O and DA2. If that's the kind of person you are, then that tends to be the kind of person you are even if you wind up with bad experiences in your past. And that will make it that much harder when we have to choose between mages and Templars. I'm afraid that choice is going to suck hard.

 

Just a thought: When Cullen was a templar, he was among Circle mages who had not chosen to be there. All mages in the Circle were forced to be there. So it's possible that more are corrupt/not so nice no?

 

In the inquisition however, all the mages (at least among companions) are there because they choose to be there for a common goal. And let's see, Solas seems nice and reasonable and ready to fight for a good cause, and he seems not to be tempted with power. It's something that Cullen might appreciate. Dorian's a Tevinter outcast and I think that from that chess scene they get along together. Vivienne is quite pro-Circle and seems reasonable in her view about mages freedom.

 

Being with these 3 mages might give Cullen a better view of what a mage can be. And especially if the Hero of Ferelden is a mage.

 

Actually it might even be an interesting character development if he started not trusting any mages, then started to develop personal trust with some mages.

 

 

On the Second Day of Cullen, my templar gave to me …
 
Two blooms of Andraste’s Grace,

 

Awww that's sweet. But isn't Andraste's Grace a kind of flower associated with Leliana? Like I associate Rose with Alistair. How about some other flowers ?

[LolaLei]

I'm curious about that choice in the DA Keep that says something like "did not do as Cullen requested" (in regards to him demanding all the mages all be put to death in DAO during the Broke Circle quest). Now I'm wondering if it's gonna turn out that a bunch of them had been possessed after all and we'll end up encountering more of them in DAI... kinda like in ME3 where you'd be up against more Geth if you chose to rewrite them, instead of killing them in ME2.

[Cerulione]

I think that trying to put down all mages as Cullen requested might eventually bring much more blood mages. If the DA novels are considered "correct", apparently it tooks only seconds for mages to turn to blood magic since Demon keep praying on mages mind, especially when they are cornered. Just imagine a situation where a cornered mage was offered an extra power by demons. If the choice is die or get some extra power from blood magic, I can picture that many will simply choose survival.

 

Some novels clearly stated that you don't need to learn blood magic. You just do the deal and it's in a fraction of second all knowledges necessary is transferred to you.

 

That's why I believe that Orsino didn't really use blood magic until the very end. Because it can be acquired very quickly.

[Panda]

I think that trying to put down all mages as Cullen requested might eventually bring much more blood mages. If the DA novels are considered "correct", apparently it tooks only seconds for mages to turn to blood magic since Demon keep praying on mages mind, especially when they are cornered. Just imagine a situation where a cornered mage was offered an extra power by demons. If the choice is die or get some extra power from blood magic, I can picture that many will simply choose survival.

 

Some novels clearly stated that you don't need to learn blood magic. You just do the deal and it's in a fraction of second all knowledges necessary is transferred to you.

 

That's why I believe that Orsino didn't really use blood magic until the very end. Because it can be acquired very quickly.

 

I'm not sure if it's that easy. I guess you can use blood magic rather easily but I'd believe it's still talent you need to master. The Cullen case, there was just handful of mages left at that times and he though everyone left was being tortured in the Harrowing chamber and thus it wasn't very likely there were many who weren't abominations or blood mages yet. If you didn't use Lithany everyone would have turned to abominations anyways and Cullen would have been right.. as young templar he didn't probaply know about Lithany and you didn't have option to tell him that you have it against blood magic I think. I personally don't find Cullen's request unreasonable in the situation since he didn't even know Wynne being saved by spirit had saved some mages and that you had Lithany

 

The Orsino thing, Meredith response was that "One doesn't summon such ritual from thin air!" and Orsino admitted that he had been familiar with Quentin research. Maybe he didn't have used bloog magic itself but at least he had studied it and necromancery before summoning such ritual.

[Cerulione]

On the broken circle quest, it's Uldred who forced the remaining mage to be abomination from what I understand.

 

Well, Orsino knowing about Quentin's research is one thing, using blood magic in itself is another. I somehow can understand the fascination of learning about "forbidden stuffs". Like virus researcher who tries to make stronger virus just for scientific curiosity or things like that.

 

Quentin's research is Necromancy and not Blood Magic no? In DA:I for lore & story reason the dev allows us to be Necromancer but not Blood Mage so they don't have to be dependent one to another.

 

About meredith's response, well it's simply possible that not being a mage she doesn't know what it took to be one. I said my previous post is based on what I read in the novels. According to some of the novels, it tooks seconds to be able to use blood magic but many many practices to actually master it and understand what this magic can implacte. Still, extra power in desperate time is extra power. Cornering a person might put some people in choosing extremes they won't normally choose.

 

That being said, I understand completely Cullen's request at the Broken Circle. The only way to ensure that no blood mages escape from the Harrowing Room is to kill all mages inside. Since there are apparently no mean for templars checking them, it's very reasonable for him to ask that. Tough choice, and that's all DA:O is all about, making very very difficult choice

[Ryriena]

I'm curious about that choice in the DA Keep that says something like "did not do as Cullen requested" (in regards to him demanding all the mages all be put to death in DAO during the Broke Circle quest). Now I'm wondering if it's gonna turn out that a bunch of them had been possessed after all and we'll end up encountering more of them in DAI... kinda like in ME3 where you'd be up against more Geth if you chose to rewrite them, instead of killing them in ME2.

If they had done that I would be pissed off that would be the worst out of DAI.