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[CuriousArtemis]

I'm torn. The story teller in me loves the idea of more set personalities providing for more in depth interaction of substance. But the gamer in me just wants people to enjoy the game as much as possible as the fantasy escape it's meant to be.

 

Actually, as a fellow storyteller, sexuality really has nothing to do with a character's creation and personality (for me). I have written a character as gay, and then I wrote that same character in a different story as straight. He was the same person. In one story, he liked boys, and in another, he was only into girls.

 

So this idea that set sexualities is better for characterization is bollocks, especially when we consider that Thedas is supposed to be a world that doesn't care about sexuality. (So it's not like being gay or straight in our own present day world, which has real social implications.) 

 

As for saying that set sexualities (and locking your character out of certain romances) is more realistic, sure. We've all gotten turned down before, and we've all been hit on by someone we weren't interested in. 

 

Shockingly enough, however, this kind of "realism" isn't exactly what I'm looking for when I turn on my fantasy role-playing game for the evening.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'm trying not to dwell on the LI sexual preferences...

 

I mean sure it sucks for those who want to romance said character with the same sex, or the other way around. But I'm just happy about the game in general. This is their baby, not ours, so they made it this way. We're just gonna have to deal. There's gonna be bickering and complaints regardless.

 

Of course, but it definitely is related to Cullen, and this is the Cullen thread, so we are discussing It has huge implications for those who want to romance him with a male inquisitor (not female since we all know he'll at least be into women; otherwise that'd be a massive retcon, which I would NOT approve of). 

 

So all the Cullen fans in the thread who were anxious to witness a beautiful love story between their male quizzy and Cullen are, shall we say, a little dispirited at present It's easy to say, Hey, chin up, it ain't that bad, if it doesn't really affect you.

[Chanda]

Of course, but it definitely is related to Cullen, and this is the Cullen thread, so we are discussing It has huge implications for those who want to romance him with a male inquisitor (not female since we all know he'll at least be into women; otherwise that'd be a massive retcon, which I would NOT approve of). 

 

So all the Cullen fans in the thread who were anxious to witness a beautiful love story between their male quizzy and Cullen are, shall we say, a little dispirited at present It's easy to say, Hey, chin up, it ain't that bad, if it doesn't really affect you.

Don't be too down. There's a good chance that he could be bi. Wasn't Traynor bi?

[Jean]

No, she was lesbian.

[VampOrchid]

It suddenly dawns on me that Cullen reminds me of a younger Stephen Baldwin.

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I still find that he reminds me of Oliver Jackson Cohen

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[Jynxed_]

I still find that he reminds me of Oliver Jackson Cohen

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GOD DAMN....... *drools*

[CuriousArtemis]

Don't be too down. There's a good chance that he could be bi. Wasn't Traynor bi?

 

No, she was lesbian.

 

Yeah, and Cortez was gay. I think it was highly insulting for the ME team to make the two NPCs the "gay ones." It was like throwing a bone to a begging dog instead of treating one group of players like all the others.

 

The DA team is way more progressive and savvy, they just are. I can see them making the NPCs the straight ones (a.k.a. the "lesser" option) and the four companions bi and gay/lesbian. Just to say, hey, for once straight people have to be the dog begging for the bone.

 

And a part of me is like, yeah, right on! And the other part is like, CULLEN!!!!!!!! 

[renfrees]

Hmm.. Given DGs known preference for a 2/2/2 split on sexuality I'm not surprised by the news, especially now that I do believe they'll have the LI NPCs and, therefore, six LIs in all likelihood. Not surprised but disappointed... Not so much for myself as straight relationships are what interest me personally, but for those who really enjoyed across-the-board bisexuality/playersexuality... Since it must seem like a step backwards for them? honestly I was hoping they'd keep LI restrictions to stuff like class or race (if only to facilitate ease of romantic cutscenes, ya know?) rather than gender. I think it's harder for some to get into the mindset of playing a different gender or different sexual orientation than their own, especially when they really had a personal investment in the chance of a particular story. Like, if Cullen ends up being M/M only I'd be sad, definitely. As playing out that romance would no longer have the same personal connection/immersion for me. So I sympathize with the flip side or just similar situations and feel like it'll be less inclusive a game for it? If that's how it goes?

I dunno, I mean, sure... In real life it's not like you can make someone you are interested in suddenly share your sexual orientation (a hideous thought. Forcing it I mean) but this ISN'T an RL Sim, ya know? It's fantasy.. Sure, characters must be built with interesting personalities and stories, I dig that. I just don't think sexual orientation is one route that must be realistically followed in a game where, in the past, that issues was neatly avoided... Liberating oh so, in some ways?


I'm torn. The story teller in me loves the idea of more set personalities providing for more in depth interaction of substance. But the gamer in me just wants people to enjoy the game as much as possible as the fantasy escape it's meant to be.

...I hope that made sense! And if it was somehow offensive in any way, I apologize in advance, it isn't my intention!

Pretty much my thoughts on this issue. 

[berelinde]

Of course, but it definitely is related to Cullen, and this is the Cullen thread, so we are discussing It has huge implications for those who want to romance him with a male inquisitor (not female since we all know he'll at least be into women; otherwise that'd be a massive retcon, which I would NOT approve of). 

 

So all the Cullen fans in the thread who were anxious to witness a beautiful love story between their male quizzy and Cullen are, shall we say, a little dispirited at present It's easy to say, Hey, chin up, it ain't that bad, if it doesn't really affect you.

I don't think Cullen's expressed interest in a female necessarily bar him from ever finding a male attractive. Maybe male Amell and Surana just didn't do it for him. Maybe he was not yet in a mental state where he could accept that side of himself. We just don't know.

 

Of course, even as I type this, I'm thinking that at least one of my male protagonists is going to romance Cassandra, so take that for what it's worth.

[CuriousArtemis]

Don't be too down. There's a good chance that he could be bi. 

 

Oh, but also, I do think that there's a good chance he could be bi! Which is why... I WISH THEY'D JUST EFFING TELL US! It's really mean to make people wait on something like this. It's kind of a big deal. We can't even count on follower Fridays since Cullen won't be included.

[Crunchycarp]

Can anyone clear up what's happening right now i'm having trouble making it sink into my brain

[CuriousArtemis]

I don't think Cullen's expressed interest in a female necessarily bar him from ever finding a male attractive. Maybe male Amell and Surana just didn't do it for him. Maybe he was not yet in a mental state where he could accept that side of himself. We just don't know.

 

Oh yeah, I agree completely. Same with Anders in DA:A.

[berelinde]

Can anyone clear up what's happening right now i'm having trouble making it sink into my brain

They announced that the LIs will have fixed sexualities. They will not all be bi.

[Crunchycarp]

They announced that the LIs will have fixed sexualities. They will not all be bi.

Dang, and I was hoping for all to be bi

[CuriousArtemis]

All right, everyone. I'm entering Operation: Hope Springs Eternal. A.K.A. "Cullen will be the bi option." It's the only way I can survive past this point 

[Jynxed_]

All right, everyone. I'm entering Operation: Hope Springs Eternal. A.K.A. "Cullen will be the bi option." It's the only way I can survive past this point 

I honestly think the NPC romances will be the bi ones.

[VampOrchid]

Of course, but it definitely is related to Cullen, and this is the Cullen thread, so we are discussing It has huge implications for those who want to romance him with a male inquisitor (not female since we all know he'll at least be into women; otherwise that'd be a massive retcon, which I would NOT approve of). 

 

So all the Cullen fans in the thread who were anxious to witness a beautiful love story between their male quizzy and Cullen are, shall we say, a little dispirited at present It's easy to say, Hey, chin up, it ain't that bad, if it doesn't really affect you.

 

I'm not saying don't discuss it. I'm just saying, one we don't have all the info yet and two I get that it's depressing for those who wanted his door to swing both ways. And I don't mean what I say in an 'up lifting' way, as bad as that sounds. Because there's always something in game that bugs me that I can't change that I wish was done differently, but all in all it stays that way.

 

I just don't want people getting all ancy over details we don't know about yet, or too depressed about anything. Because that tends to start arguments...

[Phate Phoenix]

All right, everyone. I'm entering Operation: Hope Springs Eternal. A.K.A. "Cullen will be the bi option." It's the only way I can survive past this point 

 

Here's hoping! I word vomited a few pages back that, if the Dragon Age team was trying to make the LI as fair as possible, they'd make any NPC romances bisexual, so, it's not terribly unlikely.

[Crunchycarp]

I honestly think the NPC romances will be the bi ones.

I hope the NPC's are Bi.
I don't want to point it out but I think DHMG will be gay

[Dreamlover2012]

Randomly popping in, to say AHHHH SO EXCITED! And wondering if Cullen's been confirmed as a Companion or not? Dragon Wiki says he is confirmed companion and love interest but I know the wiki isn't always reliable. Anyone know?

[VampOrchid]

I honestly think the NPC romances will be the bi ones.

I'm thinking they won't even count towards the Romance count, they might be in a league of their own.

 

Example the 2/2/2 is set for the companions. So two straight male companions, two straight femal, two bi options. And then the 3 NPCs are all hands on deck.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

All right, everyone. I'm entering Operation: Hope Springs Eternal. A.K.A. "Cullen will be the bi option." It's the only way I can survive past this point 

 

He will be the bi option, and he totally still digs mages, too! 

[Chanda]

All right, everyone. I'm entering Operation: Hope Springs Eternal. A.K.A. "Cullen will be the bi option." It's the only way I can survive past this point 

 

I'm still on the "Cullen is a companion" boat, which seems to be getting smaller and smaller... But, still there!

[VampOrchid]

Randomly popping in, to say AHHHH SO EXCITED! And wondering if Cullen's been confirmed as a Companion or not? Dragon Wiki says he is confirmed companion and love interest but I know the wiki isn't always reliable. Anyone know?

 

We are only assuming NPC at this point. It hasn't been confirmed. Be he is a confirmed LI.

[renfrees]

Randomly popping in, to say AHHHH SO EXCITED! And wondering if Cullen's been confirmed as a Companion or not? Dragon Wiki says he is confirmed companion and love interest but I know the wiki isn't always reliable. Anyone know?

He's most likely an NPC, according to the last trailer.