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[VampOrchid]

I'm on the 360 and haven't had any issues as of now with party banter. I have had tones of dialogue

[Adela]

Soo a bit of an update... while searching through the extracted files from yesterday trying to find the hairs i cam across  several of the bard songs from the tavern GOD that woman has a voice of an Angel

 

here are the songs that i came across so far

 

Enchanter

Empress of Fire

Once We Were

I Am The One

Maker

Rise

 

they all sound so amazing    

[BioFan (Official)]

Soo a bit of an update... while searching through the extracted files from yesterday trying to find the hairs i cam across  several of the bard songs from the tavern GOD that woman has a voice of an Angel

 

here are the songs that i came across so far

 

Enchanter

Empress of Fire

Once We Were

I Am The One

Maker

Rise

 

they all sound so amazing    

 

 

AWESOME! That maker one is curious 

[sunbean]

My party banter got waaaay better after Wicked Hearts. Lots of combinations talk all the time and since I am playing very slowly I got quite a bit of content. Taking care of enemies in the area seems to help as well, I've noticed. Might be something else. 

 

The only combination I can't seem to get banter with is Cass, Vivienne and Cole. The only one I got was Vivi bullying Cole. :<

 

Dorian, Varric and Bull/Cass is a freaking party, though. xP

[witchknights]

OK those are the ones I've heard, except the Cole banter. If you find it, post a link because I'd love to hear it.

Spoiler

 

i don't know if there's any field banter, though, because i have the silent party glitch. really wish there was at least some. 

[Tishina]

Spoiler

 

i don't know if there's any field banter, though, because i have the silent party glitch. really wish there was at least some. 

Awww! Thank you!

[LolaLei]

Some Cullen screenies from what I assume is the last scene before the epilogue:

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think I'm just gonna rush through the ending now. This playthrough has kinda soured on me anyway, Cullen's romance was great but also a little... disappointing I guess, there's very little of the ending left that I haven't been spoiled for... thinking I need to just wrap up the main quest, delete this character and start over from scratch.

 

Out of curiosity, what disappointed you about his romance? I'm curious to see if it matches my own thoughts... to be honest, I still can't tell if I'm just overreacting about the games flaws in general. (Stick it in a spoiler so that it doesn't ruin it for the others though).

[LolaLei]

Spoiler

 

i don't know if there's any field banter, though, because i have the silent party glitch. really wish there was at least some. 

 

Is that definitely about Cullen? Cole says so many different things that I can never tell what's related to who, or whether it's all obscure spoilers and easter eggs.

[witchknights]

Is that definitely about Cullen? Cole says so many different things that I can never tell what's related to who, or whether it's all obscure spoilers and easter eggs.

i'm assuming it is. it only triggers once, after you lock the romance, like dorian's "have a thing for strapping young templars, do you?" line, and as far as i know doesn't trigger for any other romance.

[Monica21]

Spoiler

 

 

Wow. So perfect.

[Ryriena]

Daw Cole is just so adorble the voice actor really sales him well.

[Lilaeth]

I'm falling into the habit of taking Dorian and Bull everywhere, and rotating through the others for the extra place, because the banter between them is absolutely hilarious!  I'm on PC, and haven't noticed any major problems with the game - banter triggers even when I leave them standing in the same spot for a while because my hands are sore! 

[rapscallioness]

Maybe you missed me saying I've only heard about three banters.

Maybe it isn't glitched, just very, very poorly implemented.

 

No, I saw that. And then? Your post doesn't tell me if it was a glitch. Maybe it was never meant to be. Maybe they had to make a compromise on their word budget.

 

The only thing I have noticed is that some party combo's seem to have more to say than others. On main missions most npc's seem to have more random input. ...And as I've gotten further in to the game, it seems they talk to each other more.

 

Regardless, it's not affecting my personal enjoyment, so all I can say to you is good luck with that.

[The Elder King]

I'm on the 360 and haven't had any issues as of now with party banter. I have had tones of dialogue

One of the (few) good things of the last gen versions .

No, I saw that. And then? Your post doesn't tell me if it was a glitch. Maybe it was never meant to be. Maybe they had to make a compromise on their word budget.
 
The only thing I have noticed is that some party combo's seem to have more to say than others. On main missions most npc's seem to have more random input. ...And as I've gotten further in to the game, it seems they talk to each other more.
 
Regardless, it's not affecting my personal enjoyment, so all I can say to you is good luck with that.

It's Not supposed to have three banters in that time. I got a lot more without leaving the hinterlands, with every companions combo (except Dorian and Cole), while others in the same region couldn't trigger it.

[Panda]

Lack of party banter is very investigated problem at the moment by BW though. Devs talk about it in twitter and Allan has investigated it himself. There is announcement about it in top of the pages (you see it on subforum pages like Story, campaing & characters and lot of users are having the problem. There is thread about it: http://forum.bioware...8-party-banter/

 

Well BW's first reaction seem there to be that people have just exhausted banter on area/companions/story part but they have been like that with other issues too instead of recognizing them as bugs... but I guess they are getting there and at least investigating.

[The Elder King]

Lack of party banter is very investigated problem at the moment by BW though. Devs talk about it in twitter and Allan has investigated it himself. There is announcement about it in top of the pages (you see it on subforum pages like Story, campaing & characters and lot of users are having the problem. There is thread about it: http://forum.bioware...8-party-banter/
 
Well BW's first reaction seem there to be that people have just exhausted banter on area/companions/story part but they have been like that with other issues too instead of recognizing them as bugs... but I guess they are getting there and at least investigating.

To be fair, Conal's post (as he later said) was meant as a simple update of the their Current investigation, he didn't say it's surely Not a Bug, Just that at the moment they didn't found one.

[riverbanks]

Out of curiosity, what disappointed you about his romance? I'm curious to see if it matches my own thoughts... to be honest, I still can't tell if I'm just overreacting about the games flaws in general. (Stick it in a spoiler so that it doesn't ruin it for the others though).

 

It's probably not the same thing since we did very different playthroughs, and I think you played the "right" way whereas I played the "wrong" way for his romance... and that's exactly what disappointed me - that

Spoiler

there is a right and a wrong way to romance Cullen.

 

I had expected the romance to be slightly different if you played mage, if you sided mage. That's totally valid, it should be different, it should account for the universe it happens in. Like the Fenris or Alistair romances had a different undertone if you romanced them mage or not, but they weren't completely different, you know? There were good variations, unique conversations here and there, but at the end of the day, you got the same romance content regardless of how you went about it.

 

What I did not expect was that entire chunks of Cullen's romance content would be taken away from me because of those things. I did not get his nemesis quest, which prevented me from seeing all his additional character arc and romance content there. I barely got to ask much about his past, or his opinions on anything, he had only the most superficial things to say to a non-mage and then he would change the subject. There's so many little things. The more I go through FluffyNinja's "ideal" playthrough on YouTube and see all this lovely romance content I was never even shown in my own playthrough because I either picked the wrong class or the wrong alliance or the wrong world state for it, the more my own romance sours to me, because it feels so incomplete. 

 

Don't get me wrong, what I did get of his romance was perfection. But I got so little of it that I can't help but feel short-changed. It seems like his romance was written for one very specific type of player, and since I'm not the target audience I don't deserve the full experience, I only get the scraps of what was left once everything else was gated out. The content I did get was perfect, but honestly, it felt even shorter and shallower than Sebastian's romance arc. If you think you got too little romance content from mage-side, imagine that cut in half and trimmed out at the edges, and that's what I got.

 

I just... don't understand why it had to be written this way. Why every player couldn't get the same out of his romance, or at least equivalent content. I get content-gating that makes you wanna play the game again to see what's on the other side, but romance should not be treated like that. You shouldn't get a second-rate version of a romance for not being the "ideal audience" for it. It's just... so disappointing that the one thing I was looking forward to the most in this game is what left me the most underwhelmed about it. High expectations, and such. I will romance Cullen again, with a mage who conscripts the mages this time, if that's what I must do to see the full extent of his character arc and romance. But I shouldn't have to. Not when his romance is already gated enough as it is. I'd rather he had just been fully gated to female human and elven mages, then, if anything else would yield only the most insipid barebones content possible. It would have been more honest.

 

So that has kind of soured the whole experience for me to the point that I felt nothing at the epilogue, lovely as it was, because I was so done with my "ideal playthrough" getting short-changed on just about every front (like I mentioned with Alistair and my Warden the other day). I want to be ecstatic about how good the romance I got was, but right now I'm just bitter and buttsore about everything, lol. I may roll an angry ruthless qunari romancing Blackwall now to wash this bitter taste off my mouth with enough in-game violence, clear off my head from this let down without the risk of falling for Cullen's irrestible charm and sweetness again for a bit.

 

To top it off I somehow ended up getting Vivienne as the Divine despite aggressively campaigning for Cassandra, so I'm ready to consider this save a pile of steaming trash and just nuke it from orbit. Good times!

 

Anyway, that's enough ranting. I actually think I'll fire up DAO and DA2 and replay my Alistair and Sebastian romance scenes to cheer myself up before I have another go at DAI again.

[Panda]

To be fair, Conal's post (as he later said) was meant as a simple update of the their Current investigation, he didn't say it's surely Not a Bug, Just that at the moment they didn't found one.

 

It just suprises and worries me how unknowing they seem to be on bugs, same thing with text issue. But good that they are properly investigating now.

[The Elder King]

It just suprises and worries me how unknowing they seem to be on bugs, same thing with text issue. But good that they are properly investigating now.

It's possible Some bugs are harder to find then others. The text Thing was a bit different from this, I think.

[LolaLei]

It's probably not the same thing since we did very different playthroughs, and I think you played the "right" way whereas I played the "wrong" way for his romance... and that's exactly what disappointed me - that

Spoiler

there is a right and a wrong way to romance Cullen.

 

I had expected the romance to be slightly different if you played mage, if you sided mage. That's totally valid, it should be different, it should account for the universe it happens in. Like the Fenris or Alistair romances had a different undertone if you romanced them mage or not, but they weren't completely different, you know? There were good variations, unique conversations here and there, but at the end of the day, you got the same romance content regardless of how you went about it.

 

What I did not expect was that entire chunks of Cullen's romance content would be taken away from me because of those things. I did not get his nemesis quest, which prevented me from seeing all his additional character arc and romance content there. I barely got to ask much about his past, or his opinions on anything, he had only the most superficial things to say to a non-mage and then he would change the subject. There's so many little things. The more I go through FluffyNinja's "ideal" playthrough on YouTube and see all this lovely romance content I was never even shown in my own playthrough because I either picked the wrong class or the wrong alliance or the wrong world state for it, the more my own romance sours to me, because it feels so incomplete. 

 

Don't get me wrong, what I did get of his romance was perfection. But I got so little of it that I can't help but feel short-changed. It seems like his romance was written for one very specific type of player, and since I'm not the target audience I don't deserve the full experience, I only get the scraps of what was left once everything else was gated out. The content I did get was perfect, but honestly, it felt even shorter and shallower than Sebastian's romance arc. If you think you got too little romance content from mage-side, imagine that cut in half and trimmed out at the edges, and that's what I got.

 

I just... don't understand why it had to be written this way. Why every player couldn't get the same out of his romance, or at least equivalent content. I get content-gating that makes you wanna play the game again to see what's on the other side, but romance should not be treated like that. You shouldn't get a second-rate version of a romance for not being the "ideal audience" for it. It's just... so disappointing that the one thing I was looking forward to the most in this game is what left me the most underwhelmed about it. High expectations, and such. I will romance Cullen again, with a mage who conscripts the mages this time, if that's what I must do to see the full extent of his character arc and romance. But I shouldn't have to. Not when his romance is already gated enough as it is. I'd rather he had just been fully gated to female human and elven mages, then, if anything else would yield only the most insipid barebones content possible. It would have been more honest.

 

So that has kind of soured the whole experience for me to the point that I felt nothing at the epilogue, lovely as it was, because I was so done with my "ideal playthrough" getting short-changed on just about every front (like I mentioned with Alistair and my Warden the other day). I want to be ecstatic about how good the romance I got was, but right now I'm just bitter and buttsore about everything, lol. I may roll an angry ruthless qunari romancing Blackwall now to wash this bitter taste off my mouth with enough in-game violence, clear off my head from this let down without the risk of falling for Cullen's irrestible charm and sweetness again for a bit.

 

To top it off I somehow ended up getting Vivienne as the Divine despite aggressively campaigning for Cassandra, so I'm ready to consider this save a pile of steaming trash and just nuke it from orbit. Good times!

 

Anyway, that's enough ranting. I actually think I'll fire up DAO and DA2 and replay my Alistair and Sebastian romance scenes to cheer myself up before I have another go at DAI again.

 

Spoiler

Really? Man, that sucks! I'd read that you get barely any of his Samson quest by going pro-templar but I wasn't sure if that was a glitch, or it played out differently but was easy to miss etc. They promised we wouldn't get locked out of character content regardless of our choices, but clearly that was just more marketing bollocks. I also had no idea that not romancing him with a mage would also cut out so much, I assumed it would be much the same just without the magic aspect potentially being a problem.

 

What I didn't like is that it felt like his lyrium addiction was solved and over far too quickly, that's something that could've been an on-going issue throughout the game. I also felt that as sweet as his romance was it was too easy to win him over so fast, especially given the head mess he's supposed to be suffering with the lyrium thing etc. That being said, I felt that way about all the companions and the majority of the romances, everything happened far too quickly and was solved far too soon. Not enough content and interaction for a game that size.

 

Another prime example was the Bianca/Varric thing. That was such an anti-climax!

[KyndredRaven]

I know this picture has probably been posted before, but I just couldn't help but share it. I'm in love with it! The artist is "siriusdraws" and his/her style is just too awesome for words. 

 

Spoiler

[Renmiri1]

Someone who complete Cullen romance, please can you tell me, it ends bad, or happily? I need to know because I hate bad endings, it makes me feel crushed for weeks. Thanks for answers, and sorry for my bad English.

Spoiler

cullen - happy

Solas - sad

Blackwall - sad

Iron bull - happy

Dorian - happy

Cole - ?

Josephine- ?

Cas - ?

Vivianne - ?

Sera - ?

 

I didn't pay much attention to the females but of the males Cullen, Iron Bull and Dorian leave you with no tears, just smiles. Grab a tear bucket for Solas though and some punching gloves for Blackwall

[Tielis]

It's probably not the same thing since we did very different playthroughs, and I think you played the "right" way whereas I played the "wrong" way for his romance... and that's exactly what disappointed me - that

Spoiler

there is a right and a wrong way to romance Cullen.

 

I had expected the romance to be slightly different if you played mage, if you sided mage. That's totally valid, it should be different, it should account for the universe it happens in. Like the Fenris or Alistair romances had a different undertone if you romanced them mage or not, but they weren't completely different, you know? There were good variations, unique conversations here and there, but at the end of the day, you got the same romance content regardless of how you went about it.

 

What I did not expect was that entire chunks of Cullen's romance content would be taken away from me because of those things. I did not get his nemesis quest, which prevented me from seeing all his additional character arc and romance content there. I barely got to ask much about his past, or his opinions on anything, he had only the most superficial things to say to a non-mage and then he would change the subject. There's so many little things. The more I go through FluffyNinja's "ideal" playthrough on YouTube and see all this lovely romance content I was never even shown in my own playthrough because I either picked the wrong class or the wrong alliance or the wrong world state for it, the more my own romance sours to me, because it feels so incomplete. 

 

Don't get me wrong, what I did get of his romance was perfection. But I got so little of it that I can't help but feel short-changed. It seems like his romance was written for one very specific type of player, and since I'm not the target audience I don't deserve the full experience, I only get the scraps of what was left once everything else was gated out. The content I did get was perfect, but honestly, it felt even shorter and shallower than Sebastian's romance arc. If you think you got too little romance content from mage-side, imagine that cut in half and trimmed out at the edges, and that's what I got.

 

I just... don't understand why it had to be written this way. Why every player couldn't get the same out of his romance, or at least equivalent content. I get content-gating that makes you wanna play the game again to see what's on the other side, but romance should not be treated like that. You shouldn't get a second-rate version of a romance for not being the "ideal audience" for it. It's just... so disappointing that the one thing I was looking forward to the most in this game is what left me the most underwhelmed about it. High expectations, and such. I will romance Cullen again, with a mage who conscripts the mages this time, if that's what I must do to see the full extent of his character arc and romance. But I shouldn't have to. Not when his romance is already gated enough as it is. I'd rather he had just been fully gated to female human and elven mages, then, if anything else would yield only the most insipid barebones content possible. It would have been more honest.

 

So that has kind of soured the whole experience for me to the point that I felt nothing at the epilogue, lovely as it was, because I was so done with my "ideal playthrough" getting short-changed on just about every front (like I mentioned with Alistair and my Warden the other day). I want to be ecstatic about how good the romance I got was, but right now I'm just bitter and buttsore about everything, lol. I may roll an angry ruthless qunari romancing Blackwall now to wash this bitter taste off my mouth with enough in-game violence, clear off my head from this let down without the risk of falling for Cullen's irrestible charm and sweetness again for a bit.

 

To top it off I somehow ended up getting Vivienne as the Divine despite aggressively campaigning for Cassandra, so I'm ready to consider this save a pile of steaming trash and just nuke it from orbit. Good times!

 

Anyway, that's enough ranting. I actually think I'll fire up DAO and DA2 and replay my Alistair and Sebastian romance scenes to cheer myself up before I have another go at DAI again.

 

Spoiler

Wait, really?  That makes no sense.  If you side with the Templars, you should get the same if not more content, after all, he is an ex-Templar.  Is it just drama stuff, like waaa waaa waaaa you sided with the mages?  I mean, crap, my mage understands how dangerous mages are and agrees with his first comments about templars being able to suppress the breach better.  I'm boggled and would appreciate it if others chime in who have also been through this.

[KyndredRaven]

It's probably not the same thing since we did very different playthroughs, and I think you played the "right" way whereas I played the "wrong" way for his romance... and that's exactly what disappointed me - that

Spoiler

there is a right and a wrong way to romance Cullen.

 

I had expected the romance to be slightly different if you played mage, if you sided mage. That's totally valid, it should be different, it should account for the universe it happens in. Like the Fenris or Alistair romances had a different undertone if you romanced them mage or not, but they weren't completely different, you know? There were good variations, unique conversations here and there, but at the end of the day, you got the same romance content regardless of how you went about it.

 

What I did not expect was that entire chunks of Cullen's romance content would be taken away from me because of those things. I did not get his nemesis quest, which prevented me from seeing all his additional character arc and romance content there. I barely got to ask much about his past, or his opinions on anything, he had only the most superficial things to say to a non-mage and then he would change the subject. There's so many little things. The more I go through FluffyNinja's "ideal" playthrough on YouTube and see all this lovely romance content I was never even shown in my own playthrough because I either picked the wrong class or the wrong alliance or the wrong world state for it, the more my own romance sours to me, because it feels so incomplete. 

 

Don't get me wrong, what I did get of his romance was perfection. But I got so little of it that I can't help but feel short-changed. It seems like his romance was written for one very specific type of player, and since I'm not the target audience I don't deserve the full experience, I only get the scraps of what was left once everything else was gated out. The content I did get was perfect, but honestly, it felt even shorter and shallower than Sebastian's romance arc. If you think you got too little romance content from mage-side, imagine that cut in half and trimmed out at the edges, and that's what I got.

 

I just... don't understand why it had to be written this way. Why every player couldn't get the same out of his romance, or at least equivalent content. I get content-gating that makes you wanna play the game again to see what's on the other side, but romance should not be treated like that. You shouldn't get a second-rate version of a romance for not being the "ideal audience" for it. It's just... so disappointing that the one thing I was looking forward to the most in this game is what left me the most underwhelmed about it. High expectations, and such. I will romance Cullen again, with a mage who conscripts the mages this time, if that's what I must do to see the full extent of his character arc and romance. But I shouldn't have to. Not when his romance is already gated enough as it is. I'd rather he had just been fully gated to female human and elven mages, then, if anything else would yield only the most insipid barebones content possible. It would have been more honest.

 

So that has kind of soured the whole experience for me to the point that I felt nothing at the epilogue, lovely as it was, because I was so done with my "ideal playthrough" getting short-changed on just about every front (like I mentioned with Alistair and my Warden the other day). I want to be ecstatic about how good the romance I got was, but right now I'm just bitter and buttsore about everything, lol. I may roll an angry ruthless qunari romancing Blackwall now to wash this bitter taste off my mouth with enough in-game violence, clear off my head from this let down without the risk of falling for Cullen's irrestible charm and sweetness again for a bit.

 

To top it off I somehow ended up getting Vivienne as the Divine despite aggressively campaigning for Cassandra, so I'm ready to consider this save a pile of steaming trash and just nuke it from orbit. Good times!

 

Anyway, that's enough ranting. I actually think I'll fire up DAO and DA2 and replay my Alistair and Sebastian romance scenes to cheer myself up before I have another go at DAI again.

 

Actually, now I'm really curious. Is there a place I can see the ideal world state and choices to get the most out of Cullen's content? Where would I find that?