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[Loken321]

my cullen dissapeared. all thats left is a messenger guy i cant talk too.. HELP

 

[Akaneryuu]

my cullen dissapeared. all thats left is a messenger guy i cant talk too.. HELP

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have you tried looking for a note on Cullens table? the messenger should then talk to you.If I remember correctly

spoiler tagged it even if it is just a minor one. You never know

[Tishina]

Since I am actually imagining my Dalish as somewhat open-minded and human friendly which would account for her being chosen by her keeper, it isn't character breaking for me. But I could imagine anyone who wanted to be Dalish the way we've often seen in the past (arrogant if not antagonistic), I think it would be very frustrating. And even for me, it's a bit surreal that no one's asked why I was at the conclave or asked about my family, etc. No, it hasn't entirely been ignored, which is good, and it's spread out, which is good.

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I had someone mistake me for a servant briefly (though to tell me to let them know if someone called me knife ears, which was something.) Cassandra asked me if I believed in the Maker and I said I wasn't sure, but she kind of ignored what I'd said as if I'd said I didn't believe in the Maker at all instead of asking further which was what I expected. I would think even that much from a Dalish elf would have surprised her.

Maybe I'm just not picking the right dialogue choices.

[KyndredRaven]

I'm also a recovering Solas addict romancer.(Addict is also appropriate. That bald elf nerd in his pajammies seduced me before the game even came out.) I'm taking a break from that play through to romance Cullen. And so far, he's everything I've hoped for since Origins.

 

I love the early romance scenes in skyhold.

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The awkward glances when you flirt with him after just arriving at skyhold were great. He looks at her as she looks away, she looks at him when he looks away. It was perfect, and the expressions on their faces convey so much. And the first kiss on the ramparts! I thought he was going to tear the messenger's head off. I love that scene so much.

 

Their relationship feels so sweet and realistic in the early bits. And I love that it's developing like they're taking solace in each other to escape all the horrible things. It's so incredibly sweet.

 

I'm also a recovering Solas abuser addict romancer, and I must say Cullen helped me feel better. 

 

Speaking of the scenes you mentioned:

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I love that ramparts scene. The awkward silence, the way the Inquisitor just facepalms, and the totally unexpected show of passion from Cullen when he doesn't let you finish talking. *fans self* whew...that was amazing

[KyndredRaven]

my cullen dissapeared. all thats left is a messenger guy i cant talk too.. HELP

 Don't worry, he hasn't disappeared. He's just down below. You need to look for a note on his desk and speak to the messenger in his office. He will let you know where he went. 

[Lilith]

Okay I just finished the game and I have a couple questions. I’m sure these are things that have been already discussed but I’ve kept myself in the dark because I didn't want to get spoiled and I have no idea what page to go to, so I’ll just ask.

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I sided with the mages, is there more Cullen content if you side with the templars? Like, is he as involved as Leliana was on the mage side?

and what happens to Cullen if you encourage him to continue using lyrium?

 

I hope I did the spoiler tag right.

[blackflamerose]

Ok, so I'm currently in the middle of a Cullen-mance (in that interregnum period before doing Here Lies the Abyss and Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts), and

 

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I have no idea how to trigger the lyrium withdrawal scene. I've talked to him about him going off of it (supportive) and had the chess scene, but every time I talk to him it's back to his usual conversation hub. What am I missing?

[riverbanks]

Okay I just finished the game and I have a couple questions. I’m sure these are things that have been already discussed but I’ve kept myself in the dark because I didn't want to get spoiled and I have no idea what page to go to, so I’ll just ask.

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I sided with the mages, is there more Cullen content if you side with the templars? Like, is he as involved as Leliana was on the mage side?

and what happens to Cullen if you encourage him to continue using lyrium?

 

I hope I did the spoiler tag right.

 

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You actually get less content from the Templar side. Namely the nemesis quest you got from Cullen to hunt down Samson on the mage side - from the Templar side it becomes a quest to hunt down a venatori leader, headed by Leliana.

 

If you encourage Cullen to continue using lyrium, he becomes very serious, kinda robotic/numb even, and eventually breaks up with the Inquisitor to focus on his duties. No es bueno.

[SpiritMuse]

Since I am actually imagining my Dalish as somewhat open-minded and human friendly which would account for her being chosen by her keeper, it isn't character breaking for me. But I could imagine anyone who wanted to be Dalish the way we've often seen in the past (arrogant if not antagonistic), I think it would be very frustrating. And even for me, it's a bit surreal that no one's asked why I was at the conclave or asked about my family, etc. No, it hasn't entirely been ignored, which is good, and it's spread out, which is good.

Spoiler

I had someone mistake me for a servant briefly (though to tell me to let them know if someone called me knife ears, which was something.) Cassandra asked me if I believed in the Maker and I said I wasn't sure, but she kind of ignored what I'd said as if I'd said I didn't believe in the Maker at all instead of asking further which was what I expected. I would think even that much from a Dalish elf would have surprised her.

Maybe I'm just not picking the right dialogue choices.

 

I've been playing my Dalish pretty much the same way. Mostly I imagine he's just not openly showing his mistrust, but hiding it behind jokes and clever comments. It makes sense, too - the clan Lavellan is said to be unusually interested in Human affairs, which was the reason they sent you there to spy in the first place.

 

For the rest I figure most people are just too busy being scared and refugees to care about who gets them their 10 pieces of Ram meat. xD

(minor side quest spoiler)

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You can actually say as much to the elf healer in Redcliffe. "I haven't been called knife-ear as often as I had expected." It's even one of the ways to convince her to go to the crossroads.

 

While we're on the subject of elves... Meet Faervel #3:

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[zestalyn]

While we're somewhat on the topic of lacking race-specific dialogue, I'd like to lament on how they sort of tried having companions ask for your thoughts/feelings, but hardly went as far as they could have. As a mage, I never got the opportunity to express my contempt for the Circle system without coming off as an obnoxious atheist/anarchist.

 

I never wanted to say Andraste is not real, or that the Chantry or Circle is pointless, because that's not the diplomatic thing to do. But by playing a mage I thought I'd be able to express a more human opinion about the situation. The only time I remember being able to express my feelings about growing up in the Circle was while talking to Josie, and saying in the most mild way possible, that I enjoy not being in confined spaces anymore.

 

I was especially hoping to elaborate on those feelings during the Cullen romance, since it would've made the ex-templar/mage tension more interesting. I'm glad we got to express self-conciousness about that, but I felt there was a missed opportunity during the lake/gift scene. While I LOVED that scene, I was a wee bit miffed that Cullen

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spent that whole time talking about himself. Obviously it was to explain the gift he wanted to give to you, but I felt that it would've been the perfect moment for him to get to know Inquizzy better. It felt too much like a one-sided conversation, which made it less romantic for me.

[Lilith]

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You actually get less content from the Templar side. Namely the nemesis quest you got from Cullen to hunt down Samson on the mage side - from the Templar side it becomes a quest to hunt down a venatori leader, headed by Leliana.

 

If you encourage Cullen to continue using lyrium, he becomes very serious, kinda robotic/numb even, and eventually breaks up with the Inquisitor to focus on his duties. No bueno.

 

Thank you!

 

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Is the Samson fight different, then? I had the option to break his armor, I'd Imagine with it he probably would've had extra shields, or something?

 

One more question I thought of, do you happen to know if he mentions his crush from origins if you imported a world state where you played as a f!mage?

[Sister Goldring]

I am weirdly good at this game though. Like, people kept saying they had to turn it down to casual because they found it so hard, I was thinking, ****, I casual'd DAO and DA2, what am I gonna be like with this?! But no, I had to turn it up to normal and then hard because it was too easy. Super cool.

 

Anyway, what you do is level up Vivienne/MageQuizzy in the Knight Enchanter spec so that when they deal damage, they get barriers and get the Fade Step ability in the ice tree. Then play as them and just spam the magical sword skill on the dragon, using Fade Step to quickly rejiggle yourself when the dragon moves. Et voila, dead dragon, zero damage taken.

 

Yep, I'm the same.  I started out on hard because my ultimate goal is to do a nightmare run through (although I think the friendly fire is definitely going to be a problem).  I haven't had any trouble outside of taking on the Hinterlands high dragon at level 9 (I got the bstd too.....eventually, I died a lot)  I also cleared the horrible floating witch women demons in the Hinterlands fade rift at about level 6 (more dying but I'm very stubborn).  It was intense and I was very proud of myself and I feel like boasting and being told I'm clever.    

 

If anyone is having trouble, regeneration potions are your friends (seriously I've scarfed so many of them I've run out of elfroot and I can't find anymore - I had hundreds).  Kiting and regeneration potions can get you out of a lot of trouble, also have your tank resuscitate any fallen party members with a barrier on them.     

[alwayshungry]

Yep, I'm the same.  I started out on hard because my ultimate goal is to do a nightmare run through (although I think the friendly fire is definitely going to be a problem).  I haven't had any trouble outside of taking on the Hinterlands high dragon at level 9 (I got the bstd too.....eventually, I died a lot)  I also cleared the horrible floating witch women demons in the Hinterlands fade rift at about level 6 (more dying but I'm very stubborn).  It was intense and I was very proud of myself and I feel like boasting and being told I'm clever.    

 

If anyone is having trouble, regeneration potions are your friends (seriously I've scarfed so many of them I've run out of elfroot and I can't find anymore - I had hundreds).  Kiting and regeneration potions can get you out of a lot of trouble, also have your tank resuscitate any fallen party members with a barrier on them.     

Regeneration potions are the best. Especially when you upgrade them with proximity heal!

[riverbanks]

Thank you!

 

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Is the Samson fight different, then? I had the option to break his armor, I'd Imagine with it he probably would've had extra shields, or something?

 

One more question I thought of, do you happen to know if he mentions his crush from origins if you imported a world state where you played as a f!mage?

 

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Samson didn't even show up in my game, the venatori leader takes his place as the vessel, going Templar-side. You have the option to turn her against Cory and let her go, though, I think that wasn't available with Samson? In any case, I think someone said he showed up as a war table mission for them, but I didn't even get that. He was just non-existent in my playthrough.

 

Cullen does mention the mage Warden in an appropriate import. Do a quick search on youtube, there are a bunch of videos showing the scene.

[RedWulfi]

In my playthrough I encouraged him to take the lyrium, he never broke up with me.

[Loken321]

nope nothing to click on. think it might be a bug

 

[RedWulfi]

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I am rather annoyed that I can no longer kiss him now that I have finished the game. Siiigh.

[Lilith]

nope nothing to click on. think it might be a bug

Was it after the end credits? Because that happened to me. I traveled to Hinderlands and back and that seemed to fix it.

[Tishina]

I've been playing my Dalish pretty much the same way. Mostly I imagine he's just not openly showing his mistrust, but hiding it behind jokes and clever comments. It makes sense, too - the clan Lavellan is said to be unusually interested in Human affairs, which was the reason they sent you there to spy in the first place.

 

For the rest I figure most people are just too busy being scared and refugees to care about who gets them their 10 pieces of Ram meat. xD

(minor side quest spoiler)

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You can actually say as much to the elf healer in Redcliffe. "I haven't been called knife-ear as often as I had expected." It's even one of the ways to convince her to go to the crossroads.

 

While we're on the subject of elves... Meet Faervel #3:

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Oh, he's, yum, quite good looking. I really love his eyes, and I think you managed his tattoos to be incredibly flattering.

 

Here's my test Dalish from my daughter's computer:

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Her eyes aren't quite what I wanted, but she's closer than I expected.

 

Edited for spelling,

[Lilith]

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Samson didn't even show up in my game, the venatori leader takes his place as the vessel, going Templar-side. You have the option to turn her against Cory and let her go, though, I think that wasn't available with Samson? In any case, I think someone said he showed up as a war table mission for them, but I didn't even get that. He was just non-existent in my playthrough.

 

Cullen does mention the mage Warden in an appropriate import. Do a quick search on youtube, there are a bunch of videos showing the scene.

 Wow, really? Oh man, now I'm excited to play again to see all this different stuff.

[Monica21]

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You actually get less content from the Templar side. Namely the nemesis quest you got from Cullen to hunt down Samson on the mage side - from the Templar side it becomes a quest to hunt down a venatori leader, headed by Leliana.

 

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Yeah, I'm definitely going mage-side on my next playthrough. Makes sense though that if you choose mages a follow-up quest (sort of) is one that addresses the Red Templars, and if you go Templar you get a follow-up that addresses the Venatori. Seriously, we can't just have those people walking around Thedas. That's why we can't have nice things.

[riverbanks]

[please put this under a spoiler cut]

 

(Re. lyrium stuff)

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There's an option to force him to take it and one to say he'll only take it until you find another solution, right? The one where you force him to take it eventually breaks up the relationship, with no option to refuse. The other one, I'm not sure - I've heard reports that picking the "safe" option lets you keep the relationship intact, and reports that he broke up with people's Inquisitor even through that option. I can't tell you for sure, since I didn't try it myself. Maybe other people who tested it can give a more conclusive answer?

[Akaneryuu]

nope nothing to click on. think it might be a bug

try going into the armory building next to cassandra see if it triggers something

[R2s Muse]

While we're somewhat on the topic of lacking race-specific dialogue, I'd like to lament on how they sort of tried having companions ask for your thoughts/feelings, but hardly went as far as they could have. As a mage, I never got the opportunity to express my contempt for the Circle system without coming off as an obnoxious atheist/anarchist.

 

I never wanted to say Andraste is not real, or that the Chantry or Circle is pointless, because that's not the diplomatic thing to do. But by playing a mage I thought I'd be able to express a more human opinion about the situation. The only time I remember being able to express my feelings about growing up in the Circle was while talking to Josie, and saying in the most mild way possible, that I enjoy not being in confined spaces anymore.

 

I was especially hoping to elaborate on those feelings during the Cullen romance, since it would've made the ex-templar/mage tension more interesting. I'm glad we got to express self-conciousness about that, but I felt there was a missed opportunity during the lake/gift scene. While I LOVED that scene, I was a wee bit miffed that Cullen

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spent that whole time talking about himself. Obviously it was to explain the gift he wanted to give to you, but I felt that it would've been the perfect moment for him to get to know Inquizzy better. It felt too much like a one-sided conversation, which made it less romantic for me.

I think ... 

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that's just symptomatic of how very very short each of those encounters were. The word budget must have been very small, because they packed a lot of information into some very short character beats. Plus, we learn about ourselves in lots of ways, but we only learn about him with him. Seems like an efficient use of those words, IMO.

 

So agree, would have loved to have more, but apparently we got more with Cullen than with most romances. :shrug: Hard to say.

[SpiritMuse]

(Re. lyrium stuff)

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There's an option to force him to take it and one to say he'll only take it until you find another solution, right? The one where you force him to take it eventually breaks up the relationship, with no option to refuse. The other one, I'm not sure - I've heard reports that picking the "safe" option lets you keep the relationship intact, and reports that he broke up with people's Inquisitor even through that option. I can't tell you for sure, since I didn't try it myself. Maybe other people who tested it can give a more conclusive answer?

 

(more lyrium stuff)

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These are two different conversations. In the initial decision there are four options -  two ways to tell him to take the lyrium, and two ways to tell him to not take the lyrium. In both cases one orders him and the other is more friendly. Then, if you have him take lyrium (whichever way), there will be another conversation later where you have three options: one that tells him bluntly to keep taking it, one that tells him to keep taking it but only until we find another way, and one where you can tell him to stop again, basically reversing the earlier decision. I only played the non-romance version though so I have no idea how it all impacts the relationship. I know the breakup happens in the second conversation, if it happens at all.