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Cerulione

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lol I am either silly or just really in love with Cullen umm the game. I went and ordered ANOTHER copy of the game, physical this time just to avoid the patch. The hotfix made things a little better but ugh I want my forced ultra mesh and smooth moving and synced cutscenes.

 

Don't, it's a waste of money. I get the physical copy & Origin still force me to update or I won't be able to play at all... even with origin turned off line, automatic update disabled.



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I wouldn't call him downright racist against the Dalish,more like disappointed with the way they choose to do things.My inquisitor did call him out on it though,eventually he admits that he might have misjudged them(again if approval is high enough) even if he's not romanced.
I think he has another reason to not be very fond of them as well,but this is more related to something else we learn about him.It's considered a spoiler though so I won't say what.

  
Yeah, I agree. Though the dialogue options are relatively limited there, at least for my Elidri. If she could say what she wanted, she would say, 'Yeah, the Dalish are wrong and are idiots, but you're an even bigger one'. So instead, I just have her defending the Dalish more often than not and headcanoning that she's saying what I want her to say if she says something very pro-Dalish.

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Don't, it's a waste of money. I get the physical copy & Origin still force me to update or I won't be able to play at all... even with origin turned off line, automatic update disabled.

Really? Well that sucks :(  Thanks for letting me know.



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Yeah, I agree. Though the dialogue options are relatively limited there, at least for my Elidri. If she could say what she wanted, she would say, 'Yeah, the Dalish are wrong and are idiots, but you're an even bigger one'. So instead, I just have her defending the Dalish more often than not and headcanoning that she's saying what I want her to say if she says something very pro-Dalish.

Lol,my quizie is pretty chill about the Dalish she's not very pro Dalish,because she knows that they're far from perfect and they can be douchy at times especially after what she discovers,but they're still her people and when somebody takes it too far with the insults(coughSera cough)She'll bite back.Also quick question have you finished your first playthrough ,I don't want to accidentally spoil you.

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Lol,my quizie is pretty chill about the Dalish she's not very pro Dalish,because she knows that they're far from perfect and they can be douchy at times especially after what she discovers,but they're still her people and when somebody takes it too far with the insults(coughSera cough)She'll bite back.Also quick question have you finished your first playthrough ,I don't want to accidentally spoil you.

 

Actually this is the appeal of playing Dalish Inquisitor. Just imagine this: initially he/she is the proud Dalish. Then get messed up with the whole Andraste things. Then finding out that finally all he/she believed

 

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Add that with sending Cullen to the first Clan Lavellan war table quest, and it's a pretty damn good story.

 

Especially if the inquisitor is a lady mage & finish with a blond flat eared Shemlen Commander, who happens to be a templar. Or with a certain follicly-challenged non-Dalish-non-City Elf.

 

The loneliness, since she can't be back to her clan anymore & doesn't really feel at home among humans...

 

 

 

Arf, I'll just shut up now. :wacko:


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#99756
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As for Solas, my elf inqustior will be upset that she
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Actually this is the appeal of playing Dalish Inquisitor. Just imagine this: initially he/she is the proud Dalish. Then get messed up with the whole Andraste things. Then finding out that finally all he/she believed

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Add that with sending Cullen to the first Clan Lavellan war table quest, and it's a pretty damn good story.

Especially if the inquisitor is a lady mage & finish with a blond flat eared Shemlen Commander, who happens to be a templar. Or with a certain follicly-challenged non-Dalish-non-City Elf.

The loneliness, since she can't be back to her clan anymore & doesn't really feel at home among humans...



Arf, I'll just shut up now. :wacko:

It is indeed,I intend to make a rogue or warrior that is more pro Dalish,since I like to keep my mages more in the grey area.
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Does anyone headcannoning that a Lavellan inquisitor might choose to go back to his/her own clan?

 

What do you think will happen if Cullen's romanced & Lady Lavellan wanted to go back to her clan (if possible?). Do they broke up? Does he leave everything & follow her? Does she decided to stay?



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Yeah, I agree. Though the dialogue options are relatively limited there, at least for my Elidri. If she could say what she wanted, she would say, 'Yeah, the Dalish are wrong and are idiots, but you're an even bigger one'. So instead, I just have her defending the Dalish more often than not and headcanoning that she's saying what I want her to say if she says something very pro-Dalish.


I got Solas' approval through the roof really easily on my human playthrough, the decisions he didnt like were easily outweighed by his quest approval etc. He approved of helping the Dalish clan, and kept telling my Inquisitor how subtle and surprising she was and how much respect he had for her.
So... I'd assumed it would be even easier for an actual Dalish to befriend him :/ great how different playthroughs can have such different challenges though :) I think Sera has a thing for Qunquisitors, if I'm correct?

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solas even admits he's being a bit of an ass about the dalish outside his friendship cutscene if you're diplomatic and i kind of like that. like he's not used to actually talking to people, so when he says stuff, he doesn't always think this through.



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So much Solas hate. :( I have to ask. To all those hating him and punching him and calling him racist, have you finished the game yet?
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OMG...thank you so much Greg Ellis! :wub: He made a voice clip.


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Random stuff: I'm sure this had been discussed earlier, but I just re-found this quotation & find it really fit Cullen.:

 

"Rise and rise again until Lambs become Lions"

 

In DA:O & early DA2 he blindly follow orders & what he had been taught. He was a sheep, blindly trusting his superiors & follow order, for good or for worse. He fell but rise again many times, endure & overcome hardships for many years. At the end of DA2 he started to show that lion side of him. Then he emerged stronger & learn to be a real Lion. He might not been born a Lion, but he's surely one now.


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[quote name="Potato Cat" post="18048821" timestamp="1418293261"

Late to the party, but I'm glad to see you've been able to play the game relatively well it seems! :DThanks. It was rough going at first and I'm not very coordinated, but the second playthrough went much better physically. I'm still looking for "the one" in terms of romance. I feel kind of annoyed. Cullen didn't suit Trevelyan, but would have suited Cadash. Josie didn't work for the Cadash. So I'm at a bit of a loss what I should try next. It's between another try at Cullen, Cassandra, or Blackwall. And I find myself being more self-inserty than with Hawke or the HoF.
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#99765
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I know I am digging an old grave (how cheerful I am today) but I am at peace with Cullen's portrayal in DAi. Before the game was released it was hard for me to imagine him voluntarily leaving Templars, the order was deeply ingrained in him and he would have to go through a major identity crisys if he severed the ties. It must have happened gradually, over the course of few years after Hawke's shenaningans, when he was left in Kirkwall's ruin of a city, unfortunately off screen, which is a pity but that's how the writers rolled. *shrug* Maybe over that time he discovered that he enjoyed that role more, being in command, taking responsibility for others without the order, the rules and the whole baggage. He joined Templars when he was a very young boy and those dramatic circumstances might make him aware that there was an alternative.

As for whether he'd be a good candidate to restore the order? I am not sure anymore. I loved this part of his character and when I imagined him in the game (admittedly I though it would be just an extended cameo, as in da2) I could see him being involved in making a change, cause he was there and saw all the wrongs. However, in his almost 20 years of being a Templars he really went through some serious stuff. Considering that we have also witnessed a change in his attitudes towards the order, him slowly becoming disillusioned and simply disappointed how the ideals did not match the reality, it is not out of character that he would get burned out and lacked determination and idealism to push the order in a new direction. He was dutiful and dedicated in da2, 100% invested in the order that it felt there was no place for off duty Cullen in there.

In dai on the other hand it seems like with his decision of leaving Templars he gained a new energy and enthusiasm for life. He is still haunted by his past (nightmares, regrets, what ifs etc), but he is seizing the moment, trying to salvage some happiness (with Quizzy or not) and he's not letting anything (even his addiction) to overshadow it. Lyrium is a big problem here, since you cannot be a Templar when you try to stay clean of the stuff. I don't find the seekers' alternative that much better either. Initially I was slightly taken aback how considerably pain free the whole decision about the lyrium was in game (especially after all the grimy stuff we have learned in two earlier installments), but I guess devs did not want to focus on this particular aspect. I can headcanon that Cullen is extremely strong willed, driven and still quite young, hence capable of managing it to a better degree than some.

Tl;dr In character or not I just love to see him happy, regardless of where his future lies. It is quite a change to see him relaxed and smiling that I don't find his his portrayal overly grating. Curious to feel that I care so much about future of a bunch of pixels but here you go.

 

And since I might not survive till 4k celebration (got up at 5am today) here's my Quizzy being all happy romantic with Cullen. She absolutely adores him.

 

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#99766
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Random stuff: I'm sure this had been discussed earlier, but I just re-found this quotation & find it really fit Cullen.:

"Rise and rise again until Lambs become Lions"

In DA:O & early DA2 he blindly follow orders & what he had been taught. He was a sheep, blindly trusting his superiors & follow order, for good or for worse. He fell but rise again many times, endure & overcome hardships for many years. At the end of DA2 he started to show that lion side of him. Then he emerged stronger & learn to be a real Lion. He might not been born a Lion, but he's surely one now.

I'm afraid this only makes me think of more Twilight parallels. :P

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So much Solas hate. :( I have to ask. To all those hating him and punching him and calling him racist, have you finished the game yet?

I don't hate him I have three Elven woman tailored made for him and he's best buddies with my human mage inqustisor.

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I'm afraid this only makes me think of more Twilight parallels. :P

Good lord no Dragon Age is better written than the sparkler vamps :P

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So much Solas hate. :( I have to ask. To all those hating him and punching him and calling him racist, have you finished the game yet?


Solas was a good friend to my Inquisitor. She's pretty certain he has good reasons :) I have good intentions of making an elfquisitor to romance him but I'm not sure I can leave Cullen lonely even for one playthrough :lol: it's like Fenris all over again!
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As for Solas, I don't hate him. I just have a really hard time not having his approval in the toilet if I play at all naturally.

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I'm afraid this only makes me think of more Twilight parallels. :P

 

How so? <_<

 

Edward's a Bat or maybe a Wolf but surely not a Lion... :P

 

As for Solas, I don't hate him. I just have a really hard time not having his approval in the toilet if I play at all naturally.

 

Solas generally agree if you help people & be nice, & activate old elven instruments. & be open minded about the Fade & Spirits. Well, I didn't try to befriend him & it came naturally...


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As for Solas, I don't hate him. I just have a really hard time not having his approval in the toilet if I play at all naturally.

 

I'm having the same problem on my second playthrough, he's fairly neutral to my Cadash atm but that can change easily. It probably didn't help that she said "Spirits aren't people," either. :P



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Back from my trip to Purgatory.  Origin hasn't updated my game,  I think I'll put it off until i really have to, because, as far as I can see, my game is stable and not  skipping scenes or dialogue.  Then again, if it was, how would I know?!  :D



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So much Solas hate. :( I have to ask. To all those hating him and punching him and calling him racist, have you finished the game yet?

 

Solas is amazing.  How they managed to create such a unique elfy character all over again that simply grabbed my attention and just wouldn't let go boggles my mind.  I was fascinated by the nuances of all those approvals and what-nots, until I finally figured out he generally appreciates freedom and curiosity in my inquisitor, more than anything.  And then it became a bit simpler to determine what kind of options to take, in order to maximize his approval.

 

And then I got to the end of the game.  Wow!  Well no wonder he was such a conundrum, heh.  Which required my second playthrough to be all for him.  Solas' girl is besties with Cullen, though:

 

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#99775
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So much Solas hate. :( I have to ask. To all those hating him and punching him and calling him racist, have you finished the game yet?

Heh, I love Solas. Every single character has some faults and the more apparent they are when our quizzy is rolling disapproval. Admittedly sooner or later I will create some complete twit that will annoy the hell out of companions.


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