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#101502
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I dunno if you guys have noticed but I really dislike how long the Cullen x Amell/Surana thing has gone on in game, LOL! Which is a little sad considering we probably would never have got him to where he is now if it wasn't for that.
 
... Still hate it though.

What do you mean since he barley metions anything about Amell or Surana only that he regrets how he was too her when she helped them and he had a thing for them but he had gotten over it.

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And being that she's supposed to be me she'd find it incredibly weird if Cullen was still wistfully longing for her... especially now he's supposed to be love with my me Inquisitor, dammit! Bloody little shite.

Lola, I'm pretty sure it's just a bug, or only happens if you are not in a romance with him, cause I'm damn sure the writer didn't intend for that at all.


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I dunno if you guys have noticed but I really dislike how long the Cullen x Amell/Surana thing has gone on in game, LOL! Which is a little sad considering we probably would never have got him to where he is now if it wasn't for that.

 

... Still hate it though.

if the warden wasn't a mage you don't have to worry about it. :)

 

Cullen doesn't ever make a mention of amell or surana if they aren't warden so it's likely they didn't exsist or if they did, they weren't special enough to mention.

 

import a different warden and quizzie gets to be his special first love.



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What do you mean since he barley metions anything about Amell or Surana only that he regrets how he was too her when she helped them and he had a thing for them but he had gotten over it.

 

Yeah, that's what I thought too. But that piece of war room banter with Leliana if she romanced the Amell/Surana Warden sounds like he ain't over her, which I guess is fine if that piece of dialogue only happens if you don't romance him, but if you get it whilst romancing him then that's just plain shitty.


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So much Amell/Surana drama. My Dalish Wardens (and that one male!Amell Warden save that I downloaded off of Nexus) feel kinda boring now. :lol:


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She's not lost in all cases though, in my (canon before I had to changed it) Amell's case she was oblivious to his affections and had actually been a bit lusty for Jowan, then she met Alistair and that was it, she was/is smitten. She's still alive, she's not bothered that Cullen freaked out at her because she knows he was in a bad way and that's really all there is to it. 

 

And being that she's supposed to be me she'd find it incredibly weird if Cullen was still wistfully longing for her... especially now he's supposed to be love with my me Inquisitor, dammit! Bloody little shite.

Well, am I understanding correctly that we only get the Leliana/Cullen stuff if he's NOT in a romance with the inquisitor? That should make it a little bit better, right?



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I'm more inclined to think it had to do with him feeling regret for what he said to her while Amell/Surana was freeing the mage tower. It fits with the conversation you can get about her.


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Yeah, it isn't exactly the most pleasant thing to happen in a relationship. Stuff like that makes you feel icky on the inside. I wouldn't like it if it were the case with Cullen. For me, it definitely takes something away from the whole "besotted" image he projects in the romance and I wouldn't think so highly of it. I understand how he feels about the warden but he doesn't need to go all wistful about it. Being with the Inquisitor is when he should be putting all that aside and leaving it in the past. The mention of her when he talks to the quizzy was great and very nicely done, but the rest is too much for my liking.   

 

Edit: especially since he said it was an infatuation. An infatuation is not love. 

 

I'd seen it first hand. I was once with someone who has his first love died a few years back. He never got the chance to tell her. And years afterward he still mourned her and even if I was with him, he still talked about this person like all the time. I never could tell him to shut up, it's short of monstrous to feel jealous. When I was with him, he wasn't able to move on at all.
 

It's sad & bittersweet at the same time tbh. This girl & I are actually very very different, so I never feel like a replacement. But well, it did take tolls at the long run.



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if the warden wasn't a mage you don't have to worry about it. :)

 

Cullen doesn't ever make a mention of amell or surana if they aren't warden so it's likely they didn't exist or if they did, they weren't special enough to mention.

 

import a different warden and quizzie gets to be his special first love.

 

My canon warden is a female mage Amell though, so you see my issue, lol. I only have one canon protagonist from each game, I get attached to a specific one, that's just how I play.



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Well, am I understanding correctly that we only get the Leliana/Cullen stuff if he's NOT in a romance with the inquisitor? That should make it a little bit better, right?

 

We don't know since the banter is so bugged as it is. Which is why I asked his writer.



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I dunno if you guys have noticed but I really dislike how long the Cullen x Amell/Surana thing has gone on in game, LOL! Which is a little sad considering we probably would never have got him to where he is now if it wasn't for that.

 

... Still hate it though.

 

I can totally understand. I've witnessed/experienced similar situations irl that really bothered me myself. I guess I don't mind so much with Cullen because I'm a newbie to the Dragon Age series so I basically jumped right from an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden into a romance with him. There's just something alluring about the concept of star-crossed lovers finally breaking down the walls of fate with their own hands, hahah. It's more comfortable for me to think it's the same soul romancing him, but it's definitely not everyone's cup o' tea.

 

I'm glad we have the freedom to headcanon things that haven't been mentioned, at least. \o\


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Not a very pleasant subject but I really want to know what do y'all thinks... About Cullen & Lyrium. Will he ever be able to be out of it completely?
 

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And also, whether this is about Cullen??? I was asking Cole about Templars and suddenly he throw me this:
 
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EDIT: I know we've discussed this many times but I must have missed many discussion, and now that I've just get these convo with Cole it made me wonder...


I thought that last one might be about Vivienne. He had something else interesting to say about her state of mind, something about having to be a good little mage and not let the templars see her nervous, or something to that effect. Then Cole offered to kill any templars that came for her, she was not amused :P

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We don't know since the banter is so bugged as it is. Which is why I asked his writer.

I think that was just party banter out in the world, not the war table stuff.



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We don't know since the banter is so bugged as it is. Which is why I asked his writer.

Good but I do think it's just when not in a romance with Cullen.

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I'm on my second playthrough and sided with the mages this time. I'm doing the Before the Dawn quest, and haven't started the romance yet. Does anyone know if there is romance-specific dialogue for this quest? Or will it matter?

On another note... Is Cullen's romance one of the easiest to trigger? At this point, I'm at Skyhold, have flirted with everyone at every opportunity and Cullen is the only one who has the 'start a romance with' dialogue available. Is he just easy? ;)

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Does Cullen still have that nightmare after the sex scene if he's taking lyrium? If so, does he say something different when he mentions about the nightmares? If he's off it he'll say that the nightmares are more vivid off the stuff.


Just got to this part (I have to admit I first broke up with Cullen twice to see what would happen, he does not take the friend thing well...) and he does still get the nightmare but he doesn't say much more about it than that he gets them a lot.
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#101518
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My canon warden is a female mage Amell though, so you see my issue, lol. I only have one canon protagonist from each game, I get attached to a specific one, that's just how I play.

I see. Then it's probably best to go with what I posted before, which was that he's probably more on the side of wanting to find a way to apologize for his douche baggery and not finding a sufficient way to do it.

 

It's incredible awkward to walk up to someone's girlfriend and be like "I know it was ten years ago, but I'm sorry I wanted to kill your SO and wished death/tranquility upon all people like her." Especially if the person being talked about it already dead.



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I'm on my second playthrough and sided with the mages this time. I'm doing the Before the Dawn quest, and haven't started the romance yet. Does anyone know if there is romance-specific dialogue for this quest? Or will it matter?

On another note... Is Cullen's romance one of the easiest to trigger? At this point, I'm at Skyhold, have flirted with everyone at every opportunity and Cullen is the only one who has the 'start a romance with' dialogue available. Is he just easy? ;)

Or just really, really ready for a relationship?  :P  The advisor approval/romances work differently too.


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I'd seen it first hand. I was once with someone who has his first love died a few years back. He never got the chance to tell her. And years afterward he still mourned her and even if I was with him, he still talked about this person like all the time. I never could tell him to shut up, it's short of monstrous to feel jealous. When I was with him, he wasn't able to move on at all.
 

It's sad & bittersweet at the same time tbh. This girl & I are actually very very different, so I never feel like a replacement. But well, it did take tolls at the long run.

 

Exactly. My crazy ex would go on and on about his ex (and she was still alive) comparing her to me, making me feel bad for not being as great as her, stuff like that. Funnily enough, from what I can tell he then went and done the same thing to his current girlfriend about me. Turns out the guy is just a complete ******. Then to flip the coin I had one guy stalk me for 5 years over an infatuation, and another go weird on me everytime we tried to hang out as friends over the course of 6 years due to having a weird thing for me. It's not nice, any of it. That's not the sort of shite I wanna experience in my bloody fantasy games when I've had to put up with it in real life too, LOL!



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I can totally understand. I've witnessed/experienced similar situations irl that really bothered me myself. I guess I don't mind so much with Cullen because I'm a newbie to the Dragon Age series so I basically jumped right from an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden into a romance with him. There's just something alluring about the concept of star-crossed lovers finally breaking down the walls of fate with their own hands, hahah. It's more comfortable for me to think it's the same soul romancing him, but it's definitely not everyone's cup o' tea.

 

I'm glad we have the freedom to headcanon things that haven't been mentioned, at least. \o\

I agree. I loved the angst that the potential Amell/Cullen storyline could have told. Don't get me wrong, I love the Inquisitor romance. But it was a little too sugary sweet for my tastes. I like the star-crossed lovers aspect a lot because it sets the tone for angst and tragedy, which makes a story much more compelling. Is that awful for me to say? That I prefer stories that invoke misery? LoL. Not misery so much, but raw bittersweet emotion.

 

So that one will always be my wistful what could have been. But of course I like the Inquisitor romance because, well, I got to FINALLY romance Cullen.



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I think that was just party banter out in the world, not the war table stuff.

 

War table banter is definitely bugged for me, it rarely happens and I can leave it sitting on the table for hours.



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So, at almost 20 hours playing so far, I'm not only still in the Hinterlands, I'm not quite level 7 :P. Apparently I like to take a lot of time to sightsee (plus, predictions of me getting massively lost constantly have come true). I'm motivated to move a little faster by the fact neither Cullen nor Solas will talk to me at the moment.

 

However, I can also say from experience that you can run into level 12 demons at level 6 and take one out and successfully make an escape at the easy difficulty :P  I have no idea why there's a level 12 fade rift smack in the center of an area with level 5 - 8 mobs...



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I agree. I loved the angst that the potential Amell/Cullen storyline could have told. Don't get me wrong, I love the Inquisitor romance. But it was a little too sugary sweet for my tastes. I like the star-crossed lovers aspect a lot because it sets the tone for angst and tragedy, which makes a story much more compelling. Is that awful for me to say? That I prefer stories that invoke misery? LoL. Not misery so much, but raw bittersweet emotion.

 

So that one will always be my wistful what could have been. But of course I like the Inquisitor romance because, well, I got to FINALLY romance Cullen.

 

I definitely agree that his romance was a little too smooth sailing... to be honest his whole story arc was. I wanted to see him heal, but it seems he done the majority of that between games.


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Exactly. My crazy ex would go on and on about his ex (and she was still alive) comparing her to me, making me feel bad for not being as great as her, stuff like that. Funnily enough, from what I can tell he then went and done the same thing to his current girlfriend about me. Turns out the guy is just a complete ******. Then to flip the coin I had one guy stalk me for 5 years over an infatuation, and another go weird on me everytime we tried to hang out as friends over the course of 6 years due to having a weird thing for me. It's not nice, any of it. That's not the sort of shite I wanna experience in my bloody fantasy games when I've had to put up with it in real life too, LOL!

Ouch. People like that need their heads examined in a serious way.

 

My ex, otoh, has tried to convince his last two wives not to ever contact me (unsuccessfully, for some reason). His current wife and I became good friends which drives him crazy (and I won't even pretend I don't find that funny.)