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LOL, I just find the concept of him pining over someone after 10+ years that he never properly even spoke to or really knew more than a little creepy. Back in DA:O he made it clear that they'd never really spoken at all. It's just... unnerving.

 

That does sound creepy, yow. LOL. That's actually why I like to imagine he'd already spent maybe a year or two at the Circle prior to the beginning of Origins. I personally think they did actually say hello in passing once or twice before her harrowing because when you play a Male mage, you don't even know Cullen's name when you first speak to him and have to ask for it. You can greet Cullen with a "Hello, Cullen." when you speak to him after your harrowing as a female mage so I feel like we said a friendly hello and exchanged names when he first showed up at the Circle and just didn't get the chance to talk more.

 

I read a psychology study somewhere that says people tend to attach themselves most strongly to the first friendly people they meet in a new environment, and since I headcanon that my Amell was friendly to the Templars around the Tower it seemed natural to me that Cullen would appreciate my unassuming and gentle manner when he first arrived. There's also the fact that, canonically, the Warden is considered a prodigy and has natural confidence and talent. She also apparently doesn't have many friends, so I figured he felt bad for because she was locked up with people who were too busy being scared of being mages and hated her for her abilities and the leadership qualities she had that were out of place in an environment that requires mages to keep their heads down low.

 

I also like to think that maybe he didn't actually notice her immediately after coming to the Circle until he'd been assigned to watch over her a few times and realized what sort of a person she was. I feel like Cullen isn't the type to fall in love at first sight and that he may have stewed his affections for Amell/Surana over a longer period of time.

 

But that's just my personal interpretation, of course. Amell/Cullen will always have a place in my heart. crie


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I don't think I can blame him even if he was pining after for 10 years. Justin Timberlake is still very much on my list. Lol.

I imagine, they'll reconnect and the stars will align and all that romantic hooplah. I don't want to see him still wagging his tail at her. And I don't think they'd write it like that even if the decided to give them a chance. I just see them reconnecting and finally getting their shot. My ex had a crush on me when I was 17 and he was 19. Nothing happened. We reconnected after 7 years and ended up dating for a year and a half. He was my "first love". Turned out to be a douche but it isn't so unrealistic that even after 10 years he'd still be attracted to her. At least not to my hopeless romantic heart.

I'm a lost cause I know. Lol

 

Sure, but this isn't real life. It's BioWare. You know for well that in order for the Warden to cure the Calling something horrible will have to happen that'll likely kill her off. Then of course, you have to factor in that not all Wardens are Amells/Suranas, let alone whether or not the player played as a female, what race, who they romanced (if at all), and whether or not he/she is even still alive. Then of course, if you did play as a female mage warden they'd have to take into account whether or not the player even bothered to talk to Cullen, let alone be friendly, or try to seduce him. Some female Wardens were down right horrible to him. Too many possibilities and outcomes to dedicate something like that to the small percentage of female mage Warden players that actually ship the pairing.

 

Better to leave it open ended and ambiguous like they have and let people headcanon in whatever they want.


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#102103
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Oh my!  :blink:

 

Well I don't see Cullen running anyone down with a horse just yet!

no he uses a Ram and just waltzes in

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#102104
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Harding said that about Cullen? Tsk, how did I miss that one!

 

Nah no, not about Cullen. Just when you arrived at Storm Coast, Harding told the Inquisitor that the sea air is good for morale/health/I don't remember. Harding doesn't mention Cullen at all.

 

I mean, the quizzy got to travel everywhere (and my Trevelyan mage love it, she was shut in a tower whole her life) and Cullen got stucked in Skyhold like all the time. He could use some outings that does not concern red templars.



#102105
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Arrrrrggggg, that war table banter between Cullen and Leliana about Warden is just...Argggggg

It's been ten years since you talked to the woman that you only spoken to twice, man, this is not healthy! LET IT GO!

Now I know what I want from DA4. If you imported a unromanced Cullen and a female Mage warden who didn't romance anyone, they got together after DAI. Yes, that's gonna be my head cannon now.

Feeling bad that my second PT is romancing Dorian not Cullen, but that's nothing new, I always feel bad about not romancing Dorian on Cullen romance PT. Must make everyone happy even they are game characters!

I have a problem...
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#102106
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Sure, but this isn't real life. It's BioWare. You know for well that in order for the Warden to cure the Calling something horrible will have to happen that'll likely kill her off. Then of course, you have to factor in that not all Wardens are Amells/Suranas, let alone whether or not the player played as a female, what race, who they romanced (if at all), and whether or not he/she is even still alive. Then of course, if you did play as a female mage warden they'd have to take into account whether or not the player even bothered to talk to Cullen, let alone be friendly, or try to seduce him. Some female Wardens were down right horrible to him. Too many possibilities and outcomes to dedicate something like that to the small percentage of female mage Warden players that actually ship the pairing.
 
Better to leave it open ended and ambiguous like they have and let people headcanon in whatever they want.

What do you think would happen? I'm curious.
Fiona was able to cure herself of the Warden taint. She's still alive. But I'm curious about your thoughts on it.

IF they decided to ever give me Cullen/Amell then I prefer it to be where others didn't have to go that route if they didn't want to. Your inquisitor romanced Cullen? Then you wouldn't get the Amell/Cullen romance options. Your Amell romanced Alistair and are still hopelessly in love then you wouldn't get that romance option. It would only come provided both remained un-romanced. I think that would be the most satisfying for all. If you don't want to see the romance then you don't have to.

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About the raunchy Cullen lines:

 

I'm not sure if any of you guys here heard this before, but a while back, like early June or so, I came across this 'leaked' Cullen (romance) dialogue on tumblr, in which he said something along the lines of ''I just want to throw you into my study(?), rip your clothes off and rough you up a little bit''. He said something else too, but I can't remember what it was.

Maybe it wasn't even from DA:I? Unlikely, but you never know.

 

Got me thinking, maybe they cut it or something, because it was just.. I don't know, too un-Cullen-y?  :huh:



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LOL, I just find the concept of him pining over someone after 10+ years that he never properly even spoke to or really knew more than a little creepy. Back in DA:O he made it clear that they'd never really spoken at all. It's just... unnerving.

 

Of course, he's been in Templar training since he was a young man so he never got to date (or sow any wild, noodle-haired oats), so it makes sense to me why he had a serious case of puppy-love over Amell/Surana? I doubt with all the problems in Kirkwall he ever got a chance to really get involved with anyone else, so who else would his mind turn to when he's... "reciting the Chant of Light?"

 

But I think it's less that he's still hung up on her, than more of him regretting that she was the first real woman he was interested in and she probably thinks he's a complete, raving nutter after how he acted in Broken Circle? No bloke really wants to make a complete arse of themselves in front of a woman they fancy and... well, Cullen's comments and actions there were something that it's completely understandable why he would have spent the next ten years kicking himself repeatedly over them.


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#102109
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What do you think would happen? I'm curious.
Fiona was able to cure herself of the Warden taint. She's still alive. But I'm curious about your thoughts on it.

IF they decided to ever give me Cullen/Amell then I prefer it to be where others didn't have to go that route if they didn't want to. Your inquisitor romanced Cullen? Then you wouldn't get the Amell/Cullen romance options. Your Amell romanced Alistair and are still hopelessly in love then you wouldn't get that romance option. It would only come provided both remained un-romanced. I think that would be the most satisfying for all. If you don't want to see the romance then you don't have to.

 

I'm not sure, I just don't trust BioWare not to do something horrible!  :lol:

 

As for curing the Calling, I've left every potential lead alive in my playthroughs so that she stands a little more of a chance to cure it. I want her and Alistair to be together, either living out a long and healthy non-tainted life, or going into their calling together in one last stand. Either way, I don't want them to be split up, lol. I have personal ties to that particular pairing, so I'm very protective of them/my canon.


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About the raunchy Cullen lines:

 

I'm not sure if any of you guys here heard this before, but a while back, like early June or so, I came across this 'leaked' Cullen (romance) dialogue on tumblr, in which he said something along the lines of ''I just want to throw you into my study(?), rip your clothes off and rough you up a little bit''. He said something else too, but I can't remember what it was.

Maybe it wasn't even from DA:I? Unlikely, but you never know.

 

Got me thinking, maybe they cut it or something, because it was just.. I don't know, too un-Cullen-y?  :huh:

 

If I recall correctly, that was a line of dialogue from some American show Greg was in or something, lol.


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About the raunchy Cullen lines:

 

I'm not sure if any of you guys here heard this before, but a while back, like early June or so, I came across this 'leaked' Cullen (romance) dialogue on tumblr, in which he said something along the lines of ''I just want to throw you into my study(?), rip your clothes off and rough you up a little bit''. He said something else too, but I can't remember what it was.

Maybe it wasn't even from DA:I? Unlikely, but you never know.

 

Got me thinking, maybe they cut it or something, because it was just.. I don't know, too un-Cullen-y?  :huh:

That was from an episode of Dexter.

 

As for unromanced!Cullen x Amell, the ambiguity is more than I was hoping for (*glares at that haiku tweet*), I'm delighted with it, and I hope it stays that way.


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no he uses a Ram and just waltzes in

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If looks could kill, haha.


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If I recall correctly, that was a line of dialogue from some American show Greg was in or something, lol.

Ah, I see :lol:  



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It would only come provided both remained un-romanced. I think that would be the most satisfying for all. If you don't want to see the romance then you don't have to.

 

But what if your unromanced female mage Warden wasn't interested in Cullen/hated him? The only way for it to work would be if we were to play as the Warden again to control whether or not it happened. The devs already said the Warden's story is over, we won't be playing as him/her again.


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What do you think would happen? I'm curious.
Fiona was able to cure herself of the Warden taint. She's still alive. But I'm curious about your thoughts on it.

IF they decided to ever give me Cullen/Amell then I prefer it to be where others didn't have to go that route if they didn't want to. Your inquisitor romanced Cullen? Then you wouldn't get the Amell/Cullen romance options. Your Amell romanced Alistair and are still hopelessly in love then you wouldn't get that romance option. It would only come provided both remained un-romanced. I think that would be the most satisfying for all. If you don't want to see the romance then you don't have to.

Is it sad that I think BW wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole?

It has far too many openings and with ME as a precursor, well they don't always hold up well when trying to bring it all back together. I think headcanons and fanfiction are the only way to play out the Amell/Cullen idea.

I do like the possibilities, though.



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That's something I've been wondering about too, Greg knows smutty when he hears it, so whatever it was he recorded must have either been cut for being too "out of character" or *fingers crossed* will be used in DLC/expansions.

 

Well, I'm sure he didn't get to see any scenarios. Maybe he was just imagining something more explicit? You really do have to use your imagination sometimes ... Also, possibly cut dialogue. It would be awesome if there were secret (dummied out) tracks on the game disc like there was for Origins : )



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IF they decided to ever give me Cullen/Amell

 

This is never going to happen, in any case, for a very practical reason: they don't rewrite the same romance twice. Mike and David have been very categoric that once a character has been a love interest once, they will never be a love interest again, because they won't waste resources telling the same story over. The word count will always go to a new story, rather than retelling the same tale. And this was said about Morrigan and Leliana, who have a huge amount of wanking and begging for a second romance storyline, not even Cullen who was the dark horse of last minute romances.

 

So, not even taking into consideration how minimal the percentage of specifically unromanced female mage Wardens is that could possibly benefit from such a romance, among the dozens of variables for Wardens... a second romance with Cullen is not happening, because his romance arc has already been told.

 

That's what headcanon is for, though. At least you can always have him there.


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Well, I'm sure he didn't get to see any scenarios. Maybe he was just imagining something more explicit? You really do have to use your imagination sometimes ... Also, possibly cut dialogue. It would be awesome if there were secret (dummied out) tracks on the game disc like there was for Origins : )

 

With people data mining whilst they mod, if there are any saucy lines they'll find them sooner or later, lol.


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 And this was said about Morrigan and Leliana, who have a huge amount of wanking and begging for a second romance storyline, not even Cullen who was the dark horse of last minute romances.

 

Bwahahahaha! You certainly have a way with words!



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I will still welcome Cullen on next game though, even if he's un-romanceable (look at Morrigan & Leliana). He could be like an advisor still. Or even Playable Companion.

 

The scenario might go like this: Something happen, he join the whatever-it-is cause of the DA4 to save the world so that (if romanced) the quizzy & him can still have a "home" in this world.

 

Or even small Cameo like Alistair and Hawke.



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Bwahahahaha! You certainly have a way with words!

 

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#102122
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I don't really see that line about Amell/Surana as pining, really. Maybe just finally dealing with issues he put on hold while in Kirkwall. Also, now that he's been off the lyrium for several months now, it's not dulling his memories, giving him nightmares about the past he's having to finally face. Also, Amell/Surana is a pretty major player in Thedas, if I had been crushing on someone I knew in college who ended up becoming the President, for example, I can't say I wouldn't be curious in hearing about how he was doing, or if he hated me for telling him that he and the rest of his pals should all die. :P bad example I know but eh... I think some people are making more of an issue of it than is really there.


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If I recall correctly, that was a line of dialogue from some American show Greg was in or something, lol.

It's actually a clip on Greg's demo reel from a guest appearance on nip/tuck, I believe. Never watched the show myself.



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I will still welcome Cullen on next game though, even if he's un-romanceable (look at Morrigan & Leliana). He could be like an advisor still. Or even Playable Companion.

 

The scenario might go like this: Something happen, he join the whatever-it-is cause of the DA4 to save the world so that (if romanced) the quizzy & him can still have a "home" in this world.

 

Or even small Cameo like Alistair and Hawke.

I'd side with small cameo especially of the likes of a Warden Alistair.

 

Think I'd feel too deprived if I can't flirt with Cullen anymore /tears. Unattainable teasing. "I don't care if you love meh Quizzy, I want chu all ova againnnnn!"



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My IQ and Cullen would totally have a pack of ramen-haired kids and drooly mabaris running all over Skyhold and driving the staff crazy, a veritable cream cheese commercial white picket fence fairy tale happy ending. If BioWare doesn't, like, make me sacrifice Cullen to save my hero in the next game or something, of course. Which they probably will.

 

 

Hah, depends entirely on how attached I get to my next DA hero. I mean, if I had to choose between my Warden and Hawke, bye Hawke. If I don't care too much for my next hero and it's between Cullen living happily ever after with my Inquisitor, then yeah, by Future Next Hero.

 

 

So... I've been nothing but off topic today. Forgive me?:
 
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I think that helping people see Cullen (and the rest of the game of course) through the lens of absolutely delicious graphics is totally on topic. But I'll always take more Cullen.


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