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#102176
Cerulione

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" I need to borrow you."

" I would like that."

 

Cullen likes to be borrowed. Hm...

 

Well, since he's married to his work so we must borrow him from his lawful wife :P

 

Okay, does the line "I'm married to my work" really appeared in-game or is this just another joke about Cullen? :lol:


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Heh, it's the other way around for me. My Warden is a Warden first of all, and a Warden's life is sacrifice. She would absolutely sacrifice herself without a thought to save Hawke and Trevelyan, who (despite being figures of authority) she would consider innocent civilians in the war against the Blight. She is dead in my canon playthrough, so it's not like it would be the first time she gives her life away to protect the world. My Hawke... I have so many feelings about Hawke. She never wanted any of the sh!t she was pulled into, she just wanted to get by and ended up losing so much... I could never give her such a meaningless death when she's finally getting some semblance of normalcy and happiness in her life.

 

The Abyss choice for me is always to sacrifice whoever the Warden is for that playthrough, in any case, be it Stroud or Alistair or Loghain, because to me that's the basic premise of the Wardens, that's what Wardens do. In death, sacrifice. If the choice had been between my Warden and my Hawke... bye again, Warden.

 

I am pretty emotionally invested in my Inquisitor, though, so a Sophie's Choice for a next game would make my nose twitch endlessly. Not even for herself, but for Cullen's sake. I always thought there was something beautiful and strong in Alistair carrying the weight of his dead love in his heart for the rest of his life (lol, poor sod :P), but... I couldn't do that to Cullen. He's been through so much, he's seen too much sh!t, and I basically just want him to be happy, period. No more drama, no more angst, no more heartbreak... just puppies and happiness. So if I had to sacrifice my Inquisitor in a next game...? Tough question. I would if Cullen had been lost already - but while he lives and loves and has his happy ending, I don't know if I could bring myself to take that away from him.

 

While I love that in theory, my Warden head canon is so different. Origins is one of the first RPGs where I felt I had control over my own female character. There are plenty of good (great, even) RPGs out there, but because my Warden is female she's just too close to me and I'd be damned if I let her die for a cause she never chose, even if she came to believe in it. Which is kind of weird because my canon Warden didn't romance anyone. It's not like she really has anything left to live for, unless it's occasional visits to see Fergus.

 

And yeah, Cullen. Dude is tired. Let him have a life of rest and peace all while blissfully in love.


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While I love that in theory, my Warden head canon is so different. Origins is one of the first RPGs where I felt I had control over my own female character. There are plenty of good (great, even) RPGs out there, but because my Warden is female she's just too close to me and I'd be damned if I let her die for a cause she never chose, even if she came to believe in it. Which is kind of weird because my canon Warden didn't romance anyone. It's not like she really has anything left to live for, unless it's occasional visits to see Fergus.

 

And yeah, Cullen. Dude is tired. Let him have a life of rest and peace all while blissfully in love.

 

I felt the same way about my warden! Played games for so many years where you could only be a male. Now anytime I have an option I always play as a female character. I kinda wish I could try out the storyline from a male perspective but I can never really invest myself in it.



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I felt the same way about my warden! Played games for so many years where you could only be a male. Now anytime I have an option I always play as a female character. I kinda wish I could try out the storyline from a male perspective but I can never really invest myself in it.

I have this same problem. I've tried PTs as male for ME and DAO, but it just doesn't feel the same. Don't think I'll even try DAI unless I get won over by Dorian enough to, which as of yet hasn't happened. It's funny I've actually come to view him as a brother of sorts to my Trevelyan.


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I felt the same way about my warden! Played games for so many years where you could only be a male. Now anytime I have an option I always play as a female character. I kinda wish I could try out the storyline from a male perspective but I can never really invest myself in it.

 

Yeah DA:O was a game that I found purely by accident that ended up helping me through a very rough time in my life. My Warden is important to me beyond just being my character, which is why I'm so protective of her and Alistair... and why I was so pissed off when the Abyss quest happened in DAI, lol.


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#102181
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" I need to borrow you."
" I would like that."

Cullen likes to be borrowed. Hm...

Sure he does!I borrow him all the time! :D
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Well, since he's married to his work so we must borrow him from his lawful wife :P

 

Okay, does the line "I'm married to my work" really appeared in-game or is this just another joke about Cullen? :lol:

It appeared in the game :lol:


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#102183
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It appeared in the game :lol:

 

Does it? When/where/why and in what context by who?



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I have this same problem. I've tried PTs as male for ME and DAO, but it just doesn't feel the same. Don't think I'll even try DAI unless I get won over by Dorian enough to, which as of yet hasn't happened. It's funny I've actually come to view him as a brother of sorts to my Trevelyan.

I feel the same way about Dorian. He's become my closest non-romantic companion in the game. I'd be tempted to romance him but I also think I prefer the friendship angle. Playing a dude just feels weird to me



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It appeared in the game :lol:

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#102186
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Does it? When/where/why and in what context by who?

 

At the ball he gets asked if he is married. If he isn't in a romance he will say the "married to my work" line. Poor bugger. 


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#102187
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At the ball he gets asked if he is married. If he isn't in a romance he will say the "married to my work" line. Poor bugger. 

 

LMAO, nice get out line though!



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At the ball he gets asked if he is married. If he isn't in a romance he will say the "married to my work" line. Poor bugger. 

This, basically. ;)



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I have this same problem. I've tried PTs as male for ME and DAO, but it just doesn't feel the same. Don't think I'll even try DAI unless I get won over by Dorian enough to, which as of yet hasn't happened. It's funny I've actually come to view him as a brother of sorts to my Trevelyan.

 

I love playing a**hole males. My 2nd PT Hawke was a jerk that loved punching things way too many times! It was awesome!


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#102190
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LMAO, nice get out line though!

 

I actually think it is kind of pathetic, lol. He needs to be romanced.



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My favorite "Plant one on me" line from Cullen is probably when the Inquisitor says "I need to borrow you" and he does this sexy chuckle and says "Give me a moment. Then I'm yours." :wub:
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#102192
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I actually think it is kind of pathetic, lol. He needs to be romanced.

 

Does he sound sad about it then? I mean, he could've just gone for one of his many suitors at the ball, lol.



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I love playing a**hole males. My 2nd PT Hawke was a jerk that loved punching things way too many times! It was awesome!

LMAO I can see the appeal there  :P

 

To be honest, the male PT I made it through the longest was a renegade broshep in ME2.



#102194
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I had no issue sacrificing my Warden, despite how much it would obviously have hurt Alistair (although the game never did that scenario any justice) because... let's say I was on a very different wavelength the first time I played Origins, and my Cousland took a few weird turns over the course of the game that made her a rather ugly person towards the end, so her sacrifice at the end of all things was something of a catharsis. She had to die. She may have needed a fairy tale happy ending, but it wasn't the one she deserved.

 

Unfortunately, Alistair, Anora and Loghain were all casualties of her journey, and in the process of burning herself out she ended up taking them all down with her. It was an ugly mess, but it was my first playthrough, and often times that's the one that sticks, isn't it? Even after replaying the same character and making different choices and giving her different endings, that mess of a first playthrough is the only one I feel is her genuine, legitimate story. I guess that's detached me from the need to give Alistair a truly happy ending, despite how much desperately deserves one, because it doesn't feel real for me. It's cute, but it's "alternate reality," it's all those alternate characters and playthroughs that you don't take as seriously as your main one. That's why I feel icky about retconning her death, even if a sacrificed Warden was worth nothing in Inquisition after all, and a living Warden still has some minimal hint of continuity. It wouldn't feel right.

 

My Hawke is completely different question, though. Different times, different story, different wavelengths... I need her to be happy. Hawke suffered too much, she lost too much, she was hurt too much for nothing that was ever really her fault... I don't know if I could say I feel closer to one or another character because they're both my darlings for different reasons, but while my Warden's life means nothing for me, my Hawke's happiness means everything. Even if her love interest is not a particularly tragic figure, and is mostly the guy I chose to make her happy (as opposed to how I made my Inquisitor to make Cullen happy), I couldn't bring myself to split her and Sebastian because that'd be one more thing she loves and loses, and I can't handle that. (lol, how melodramatic :rolleyes:) And I definitely could never sacrifice her life over... pretty much anyone but maybe Bethany. And I'd still cry for years if I had to do that.

 

SO, what I mean is, to me it's on a case by case basis. I don't think I could sacrifice my Hawke and my Trevelyan because there are circumstances to their survival that I'm not willing to give up.... but my Cousland is easily a goner, and should probably stay that way. :P

 

Well, I can see what you mean.

 

My own final canon warden is Amell (dead), romancing Alistair & both stay Warden. First time I played I made a Queen Cousland just to preserve the Happy Ending. But it feels so much like cheating. I got like 5 Wardens & the only one I really connect is my Lady Amell. Somehow, I can picture Alistair strong enough to outlive this. He's a Grey Warden, he knows what Sacrifice is. Duncan, then Amell. And back then Alistair was not at all a broken guy. He's a strong, whole character. He can still endure.

 

However it's very possible that a Romanced Cullen who lost his lover will simply be broke. Cullen's strong, but somehow I got the feeling that his strong shell will be broken if ever his lover is taken away from him. He's been on the very edge of his endurance already, and deserve a well earned happiness. He's been through too much.

 

Is it weird that I actually have much more sympathy to Cullen than Alistair? I love Alistair but I can easily picture him endure the sorrow of losing his lover. I just can't picture Cullen going through all this. He'll be broken


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#102195
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Does he sound sad about it then? I mean, he could've just gone for one of his many suitors at the ball, lol.

 

Oh no, he doesn't sound sad. I just don't like him being alone.  ^_^



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Does he sound sad about it then? I mean, he could've just gone for one of his many suitors at the ball, lol.

Cullen would never stoop so low. :o  Work > EVERYTHING...but the ever charming quizzy gals.



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Spoiler

 

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Interesting, it seems that it doesn't trigger for everyone?

 

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"Here Lies the Abyss" spoilers:
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#102199
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....everywhere I turn at Skyhold, Sera's been doodling dicks and butts all over the place. I wonder how many of Cullen's Very Official Documents she has defaced with cutesy dick doodles.


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" I need to borrow you."
" I would like that."
 
Cullen likes to be borrowed. Hm...


Now I'm picturing the elf inquisitor teasing him a bit and telling him after he ducks out of the office that she wanted to borrow him to get something down off a tall shelf. =P
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