138860 réponses à ce sujet

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Spoiler

It would be really epic to actually be able to "reconcile" the Mage & Templar factions. Why should we get only one? Better than choosing one, make them see a middle ground & work together to Close the Breach & face Cory while doing it. I don't mind if the whole mainstory only rolls on this subject since there are plenty to tell. It will surely make a coherent storyline.

 

Actually I'm pretty surprise that we get to close the breach pretty soon. It was the driving cause who made the Inquisition no? And we solve the problem so soon? And the whole "Inquisition is to stop Cory" thing or whatever you choose at the crowning at skyhold is just... weird.

 

Spoiler

It makes sense to me. Cory is the entire reason the breach even exists so when you foil his plans and he tells you outright that he is going to find another way to achieve them then why wouldn't you carry on the Inquisition to fight against him since he has already succeed in turning Thedas into a complete sh*t storm. The breach is the initial problem, the be all and end all is Cory.  

[Cerulione]

Spoiler

They certainly marketed it as the breach being the big threat... I thought it would've stayed open for longer than it did. I also hoped that the anchor mark on our hand would continue to slowly kill us, or at least cause us a few problems for longer than the bloody prologue, lol.

 

Seconded.

 

Spoiler

The mark will slowly kill us ---> this give a huuuuge sense of urgency. I remember one game (Atelier Iris) having things like this, one of the Companion get a curse that kill her slowly. This gives penalty to battle etc, then we have to do the main quest to save her. No need to go this far with battle penalty but still, some scene can be made to show that our quizzy having problem with it.

 

Other alternative: the breach keep going wider & wider. And the rifts & demons start to getting less controllable the further we gone in game. Like previously stable area getting less & less stable due to rifts the further we go into the story because the breach getting bigger

[Sifr]

Spoiler

It would be really epic to actually be able to "reconcile" the Mage & Templar factions. Why should we get only one? Better than choosing one, make them see a middle ground & work together to Close the Breach & face Cory while doing it. I don't mind if the whole mainstory only rolls on this subject since there are plenty to tell. It will surely make a coherent storyline.

 

Actually I'm pretty surprise that we get to close the breach pretty soon. It was the driving cause who made the Inquisition no? And we solve the problem so soon? And the whole "Inquisition is to stop Cory" thing or whatever you choose at the crowning at skyhold is just... weird.

 

Spoiler

To be honest, I never understood how the Templars were supposed to help anyway to seal the breach?

 

Sure, I can get that the Breach is magical and they're weakening it with their anti-magical abilities, but if that's true, then wouldn't that also stop the Anchor (which operates via the same magic as the Breach) from working as well, since they're channelling their power into you? Kind of defeats the entire point, no?

 

It honestly would have made more sense to have the Templar's use their power to weaken the Breach and the Mages provide a power-boost to the Inquisitor, thus making it necessary that we had gotten both to work together in order to seal the Breach.

[Cerulione]

Spoiler

It makes sense to me. Cory is the entire reason the breach even exists so when you foil his plans and he tells you outright that he is going to find another way to achieve them then why wouldn't you carry on the Inquisition to fight against him since he has already succeed in turning Thedas into a complete sh*t storm. The breach is the initial problem, the be all and end all is Cory.  

 

Spoiler

It makes sense, just on term of epicness, they could have let the Breach stay + Cory get another way to enter into the Fade. Makes it like the Breach can only be sealed if Cory is killed or things like that.

 

Having Breach on the sky just add a few degree of epicness.

[Sifr]

Spoiler

They certainly marketed it as the breach being the big threat... I thought it would've stayed open for longer than it did. I also hoped that the anchor mark on our hand would continue to slowly kill us, or at least cause us a few problems for longer than the bloody prologue, lol.

 

Seconded.

 

Spoiler

The mark will slowly kill us ---> this give a huuuuge sense of urgency. I remember one game (Atelier Iris) having things like this, one of the Companion get a curse that kill her slowly. This gives penalty to battle etc, then we have to do the main quest to save her. No need to go this far with battle penalty but still, some scene can be made to show that our quizzy having problem with it.

 

Other alternative: the breach keep going wider & wider. And the rifts & demons start to getting less controllable the further we gone in game. Like previously stable area getting less & less stable due to rifts the further we go into the story because the breach getting bigger

 

Spoiler

Or like in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, where the main character has a curse that forces them to devour souls, forcing them to find a cure before they end up becoming a monster.

 

I personally like the idea that the Mark could have had some unintended side effects or drawbacks, to offset our greater degree of control over it as we go along in the game? Especially when we basically become a Rift-making God by the end of the game?

[Cerulione]

Spoiler

Or like in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, where the main character has a curse that forces them to devour souls, forcing them to find a cure before they end up becoming a monster.

 

I personally like the idea that the Mark could have had some unintended side effects or drawbacks, to offset our greater degree of control over it as we go along in the game? Especially when we basically become a Rift-making God by the end of the game?

 

Spoiler

Not even at the end of the game. After Adamant we can already open a rift & bring 6 people enter the fade physically. They said that the Tevinter Magisters used so many resource just to do this & we can already do this in a finger snap?

[Tishina]

So, after a month of keeping my mouth shut so I didn't spoil it, my daughter finally saw the game of Wicked Grace with her Cadash PT (and I got to watch). I think she's replaying it right now to watch the streaking...   (Yes, darlin' that's why I wandered down the hall one night laughing my head off and wouldn't tell you why.)

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Spoiler

Not even at the end of the game. After Adamant we can already open a rift & bring 6 people enter the fade physically. They said that the Tevinter Magisters used so many resource just to do this & we can already do this in a finger snap?

 

The Inquisitor is a special snow flake. 

[FFZero]

Meh the pacing of bioware games has been an issue for a while tbh. The last game where they got the pacing about right was ME2. 

[Sephirona]

Spoiler

To be honest, I never understood how the Templars were supposed to help anyway to seal the breach?

 

Sure, I can get that the Breach is magical and they're weakening it with their anti-magical abilities, but if that's true, then wouldn't that also stop the Anchor (which operates via the same magic as the Breach) from working as well, since they're channelling their power into you? Kind of defeats the entire point, no?

 

It honestly would have made more sense to have the Templar's use their power to weaken the Breach and the Mages provide a power-boost to the Inquisitor, thus making it necessary that we had gotten both to work together in order to seal the Breach.

 

That's actually why I was thinking that what Templars believe to be anti-magic abilities are actually just another branch of magic that happens to counter the generally known magic. The anchor itself is a previously unseen higher level of magic, which is why Solas and others comment that it's unlike any magic they've ever seen and why Templars can channel energy into it without canceling it out. It could be the reason why your mark is referred to as the Anchor - it trumps the known Magi/Templar magic types and acts as a sort of base that links the world of the Fade and the physical world beyond what normal magic could accomplish. It also explains why it allows even a non-mage Quizzy to dream so vividly in the Fade - it's simply a stronger magic type.

 

I mentioned it a while back but I really thought it was ominous how

 

Spoiler

in a playthrough where you ask him about becoming a Templar, Cullen stubbornly claims to know that Templar abilities are not the same as mage-magic but doesn't explain why. The Quizzy asks Cullen how he knows and he just says "I just do." It seems like an odd thing to not get an explanation from him, which is why I think there's a chance this might be expanded on in the future. Cole also mentions how they all feel the pull towards some bigger entity but can't explain it. Templars don't use lyrium the same way mages do and yet their abilities are still powered by it,

 

 

and lyrium is basically crystallized Fade energy. I read a Tumblr discussion wherein David Gaider mentioned how it was the Old Gods who taught humanity their magic and that The Maker was said to have banished both the Elven Gods and the Old Gods at some point in the past. Maybe there are different "flavors" of magic depending on the divine forces they're attuned to in the Fade, and normal magic just happens to be attuned to the Old Gods?

 

Or maybe I'm looking too much into it. Sigh.

[MelissaGT]

Spoiler

Or like in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, where the main character has a curse that forces them to devour souls, forcing them to find a cure before they end up becoming a monster.

 

I personally like the idea that the Mark could have had some unintended side effects or drawbacks, to offset our greater degree of control over it as we go along in the game? Especially when we basically become a Rift-making God by the end of the game?

Spoiler

To me, this made playing Mask of the Betrayer so annoying. Every time I would travel to an area I would be nearly dead, lol. Though, I will say I greatly enjoyed the well-done mod I was able to find that allowed you to resurrect Bishop from the Wall of the Faithless and have a romance with him! I've always loved me some Bishop. 

[Chrys]

Fellow Cullenites, can you help me with Vivienne's quest? What triggers the scene

 

Spoiler

where she gets the Inquisitor to meet the Duke's relatives?

[FFZero]

 

Or maybe I'm looking too much into it. Sigh.

 

No such thing as "looking too much into it" 

 

Besides what else are we supposed to do other than come up with increasingly detailed/crazy theories while we wait for DLC 

[Sifr]

That's actually why I was thinking that what Templars believe to be anti-magic abilities are actually just another branch of magic that happens to counter the generally known magic. The anchor itself is a previously unseen higher level of magic, which is why Solas and others comment that it's unlike any magic they've ever seen and why Templars can channel energy into it without canceling it out. It could be the reason why your mark is referred to as the Anchor - it trumps the known Magi/Templar magic types and acts as a sort of base that links the world of the Fade and the physical world beyond what normal magic could accomplish.

 

I mentioned it a while back but I really thought it was ominous how

 

Spoiler

in a playthrough where you ask him about becoming a Templar, Cullen stubbornly claims to know that Templar abilities are not the same as mage-magic but doesn't explain why. The Quizzy asks Cullen how he knows and he just says "I just do." It seems like an odd thing to not get an explanation from him, which is why I think there's a chance this might be expanded on in the future. Cole also mentions how they all feel the pull towards some bigger entity but can't explain it. Templars don't use lyrium the same way mages do and yet their abilities are still powered by it,

 

 

and lyrium is basically crysalized Fade energy. I read a Tumblr discussion wherein David Gaider mentioned how it was the Old Gods who taught humanity their magic and that The Maker was said to have banished both the Elven Gods and the Old Gods at some point in the past. Maybe there are different "flavors" of magic depending on the divine forces they're attuned to in the Fade, and normal magic just happens to be attuned to the Old Gods?

 

Or maybe I'm looking too much into it. Sigh.

 

I like the idea that there are actually many different forms of magic and they all have their unique little quirks. This might also be why Blood Magic makes it harder for one to connect to the Fade in the normal way, according to Solas?

[FFZero]

Fellow Cullenites, can you help me with Vivienne's quest? What triggers the scene

 

Spoiler

where she gets the Inquisitor to meet the Duke's relatives?

 

I think you just need to talk to her after finishing the quest. You may have to leave skyhold then come back and talk to her again for it to trigger. 

[Solveig]

Off topic, but in case anyone plays Skyrim here, the Skyrim Romance Mod should be coming out soon (before Christmas).

[Chrys]

I think you just need to talk to her after finishing the quest. You may have to leave skyhold then come back and talk to her again for it to trigger. 

 

Hmm, weird. It might be bugged then because that didn't work. Thanks for the reply.

[FFZero]

Hmm, weird. It might be bugged then because that didn't work. Thanks for the reply.

 

Hmm then it could be based on whereabouts you are in the story perhaps, I think I had them show up for me fairly close to the end. If you get to before the final mission and they still haven't shown up then yeah it's definitely bugged out on you. 

[Potato Cat]

Just started the What Pride Had Wrought quest. The Arbor Wilds is a really beautiful map! And that opening cutscene was awesome!

Fellow Cullenites, can you help me with Vivienne's quest? What triggers the scene
 

Spoiler

where she gets the Inquisitor to meet the Duke's relatives?

I got that scene and when I did I unlocked the made 3 friends achievement. It's probably approval locked so you'll need to raise it a bit more I think.

[MacyNell]

Off topic, but in case anyone plays Skyrim here, the Skyrim Romance Mod should be coming out soon (before Christmas).

Interesting. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will keep my eye on it. 

[Cerulione]

I like the idea that there are actually many different forms of magic and they all have their unique little quirks. This might also be why Blood Magic makes it harder for one to connect to the Fade in the normal way, according to Solas?

 

Well, this might be an interesting topic. Might worth a DLC no? Something about the relationship of Blood Magic & the Fade & Templar's magic & normal magic. And we get screen time of Cullen

 

Personally I'm also intrigued about what Cole mentionned about Templar hearing "songs". Since Templars can seal the Breach, they can use magic even if Cullen call it otherwise. ANother kind of magic maybe, but still magic in itself? Hmm...

[Cerulione]

Interesting. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will keep my eye on it. 

 

Other interesting upcoming Skyrim Conversion mod: Enderal

 

 

EDIT: I love this guy's voice.

[Sephirona]

I like the idea that there are actually many different forms of magic and they all have their unique little quirks. This might also be why Blood Magic makes it harder for one to connect to the Fade in the normal way, according to Solas?

 

I'm no physicist but I'm really tempted to say that there is some quantum physics-type stuff going on in mages that involves manipulating the connection almost all sentient minds in Thedas have to the Fade. I think some quantum physicists focus their studies on how the brain works on a quantum level to give rise to the concept of the mind, at least. Anyways, since blood magic manipulates the brain in some fashion that removes the victim's ability to think/dream for themselves, it also messes with that connection to the Fade by extension because the very essence of the Fade is free will, dreams, and emotions. Demons themselves can basically hijack physical bodies by riding that connection mages have to the fade in the opposite direction, and this is the same thing they teach you to do if you turn to blood magic - to hijack someone else's physical body. And since the essence of riding backwards into someone's head is to go from the direction Fade --> Physical, that's probably why it's considered an abnormal connection.

 

Also, this explains why all people (and not just mages) can be possessed. Everyone has a connection to the Fade (except dwarves). It's just easier to possess mages because their connection to the Fade is already naturally stronger than normal - the demons have a stronger wave to ride backwards on. Fascinating stuff!

 

Edit: Oh. Top again.

Have an edited version of one of the gifs I posted a few days ago that includes 100% more pleading skyward glance for the same low price.

 

[Solveig]

Interesting. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will keep my eye on it. 

No problem .

[Annarl]

Fellow Cullenites, can you help me with Vivienne's quest? What triggers the scene

 

Spoiler

where she gets the Inquisitor to meet the Duke's relatives?

I've never been that friendly with her.  Nice terms but not friends