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When you're working crunch and trying to get a game released tidying up what files make it into the final build is the last thing on your mind. 
 
Also on the confidentiality thing mentioned above, every studio will have non-disclosure agreements in place and many studios are very strict about what you can say on social media, even after you've left the studio those NDA's are normally still in effect to a degree. The place I work at makes you sign at least 5 of the bloody things before they'll even let you see anything to do with a game much less work on it and they won't allow you to use USB devices for fear that you'll take work home with you and leak it on 4chan or something . 

 

 

I work for a huge insurance company and we have to do the same thing, albeit all virtually. We have to re-sign that like twice a year. 



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Which was when exactly? Yesterday was the first I heard of it, so assuming everyone found out at the same time I did expecting an immediate answer on the same day is a bit too much too ask, especially as the bioware offices are now closed for christmas and the dev's are having some much needed R&R.

Or, ya'know, maybe the devs were hoping for once someone wouldn't go digging through every last file and everyone could just enjoy the game....too much? Yeah, wishful thinking is fun though haha.

 

The poor person who forgot to remove that file if this was all accidental.


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#104203
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OMG Ottemis is working on retextures now. Praise them Maker! We can finally get some decent high res textures  :D

 

Is that just adding a scar on his cheek or am I missing something?  :blink:

 

Either way that's cool! I would love some higher rez armor...and the fur thingy...


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#104204
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People interpreted his first tweet mentioning it as condemning it but he clarified:

https://mobile.twitt...154950269497344

 

Ooh that's interesting. Thanks



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Back to the writing for me!

The truth is out there my Cullen crazed friends. My opinion rests and I really don't feel like discussing it anymore.It's getting quite annoying on both sides of the argument and I don't see BW changing anything. So maybe we can all let it rest? Or at the very least direct this all to that thread in Feedback &Suggestions.

Character integrity, just remember character integrity.

Oh and have a Kili!


KILI!!I'll try to make adwarfQuisitor that looks like him! <3
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#104206
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KILI!!I'll try to make adwarfQuisitor that looks like him! <3

YES, please, DO THAT! :D


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Or, ya'know, maybe the devs were hoping for once someone wouldn't go digging through every last file and everyone could just enjoy the game....too much? Yeah, wishful thinking is fun though haha.

 

The poor person who forgot to remove that file if this was all accidental.

ofc it was going to happen. silly silly devs. 

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Is that just adding a scar on his cheek or am I missing something?  :blink:

 

Either way that's cool! I would love some higher rez armor...and the fur thingy...

 

Well I'm assuming Ottemis will be doing high res textures, they did a lot of HR retextures for ME3.   :)



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KILI!!I'll try to make adwarfQuisitor that looks like him! <3

make sure to take pics of the sliders! 



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ofc it was going to happen. silly silly devs. 

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Cully-Wully returns to share his expressions on the matter!  :P

 

haha, anyways I have a feeling this wasn't supposed to be found and was likely overlooked...I doubt BW would go out of their way for this wonderfully tragic PR nightmare.



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People interpreted his first tweet mentioning it as condemning it but he clarified:

https://mobile.twitt...154950269497344

These tweets kind of annoy me, but I will keep my mouth shut on the matter.



#104212
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These tweets kind of annoy me, but I will keep my mouth shut on the matter.

If this is about modding a game he helped design/create then speaking for artistic integrity and being proud of one's work I can understand why he'd dislike it.



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Which was when exactly? Yesterday was the first I heard of it, so assuming everyone found out at the same time I did expecting an immediate answer on the same day is a bit too much too ask, especially as the bioware offices are now closed for christmas and the dev's are having some much needed R&R.

 

When they first announced the companions sexual orientation and race gating. Instead they said Cullen's and Solas' was due to "story reasons". While we can't speak for Solas, it's clear that Cullen's wasn't for story reasons. They knew people would try to file dive, and several devs I've spoken to were confident that modders would crack it.

 

This current sh*t storm could have been avoided.


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If this is about modding a game he helped design/create then speaking for artistic integrity and being proud of one's work I can understand why he'd dislike it.

 

Well I have heard that some writers (not game) are against of fanfics especially when they got popular. They didn't want other people to use their characters. I can't understand that viewpoint but good way to alienate fans of your work I guess..



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If this is about modding a game he helped design/create then speaking for artistic integrity and being proud of one's work I can understand why he'd dislike it.

I have absolutely no qualms about leaving a game the way the team intended it. I have no qualms about characters being modded to suit different sexuality preferences so any and everyone can romance the character they want to. It's the double standard here that is so annoying. Or rather the contradicting viewpoints on modding Cullen and Dorian that create the double standard.

 

In my opinion, if it is okay to mod Cullen bi then it should be equally okay to mod Dorian bi. Doing either will result in inconsistencies in the story, so why should that even be a factor? If people want to romance these characters a part from who the writers and game creators intended it, then inconsistencies is just a part of that package.


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I can't look away. oh god Quizzy is like ''should I even tell him to take clothes off..ah well, he deserves those 2 minutes of happiness''  :lol:

 

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Just popping in to share a thing I might or might not have done using the dai modding tools.
 

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I thought for a split second the vein on his cheek there was an extension of the scar and so now it is =o

No doubt it won't be for everyone but once we can easily share mods i'll be sure to 'release' it for those interested =)


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That is awesome! Thanks for sharing!


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I have absolutely no qualms about leaving a game the way the team intended it. I have no qualms about characters being modded to suit different sexuality preferences so any and everyone can romance the character they want to. It's the double standard here that is so annoying. Or rather the contradicting viewpoints on modding Cullen and Dorian that create the double standard.

 

In my opinion, if it is okay to mod Cullen bi then it should be equally okay to mod Dorian bi. Doing either will result in inconsistencies in the story, so why should that even be a factor? If people want to romance these character a part from who the writers and game creators intended it, then inconsistencies is just a part of that package.

 

Otherwise I would agree but Dorian being bi would need modders to completely change his quest and his backstory ^^; In his case his sexuality is quite big part of character unlike with Cullen who don't have story content relating his sexuality.


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#104220
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Well I have heard that some writers (not game) are against of fanfics especially when they got popular. They didn't want other people to use their characters. I can't understand that viewpoint but good way to alienate fans of your work I guess..

 

I can understand that though. You can get very attached to characters you are writing. They are your baby and writers get very protective of them especially if people start writing them OOC. Is is like "WTF, he would never do something like that! Whelp" 

 

Martin hates fanfiction written for ASOIF. I didn't know that until I was 50,000 words unto mine and I will admit it has really put me off continuing it

 

Soooo... that humping gif, yeah? . 


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#104221
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Sorry to parade into the middle of some serious businnes (I assume) but I am still trudging through my Solasmancing pt, which I enjoy immmensely but every now and again suffer Cullen withdrawal. I just wanted to indulge myself with one of his romance scenes (you know, just to keeep myself going ^^)

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Cullen felt guilty ;)

 

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When they first announced the companions sexual orientation and race gating. Instead they said Cullen's and Solas' was due to "story reasons". While we can't speak for Solas, it's clear that Cullen's wasn't for story reasons. They knew people would try to file dive, and several devs I've spoken to were confident that modders would crack it.

 

This current sh*t storm could have been avoided.

 

But that's the thing, it's not clear. Just because we've found those files does not mean there was ever an intent to use them. While I'll admit removing those files would have prevented this sh!tstorm it is so easy for stuff like this to slip through the net, especially when everyone has been working 10+ hour days for months on end. 



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Well I have heard that some writers (not game) are against of fanfics especially when they got popular. They didn't want other people to use their characters. I can't understand that viewpoint but good way to alienate fans of your work I guess..

...why does that seem more like a personal attack?

 

Anyways, I was just saying I could understand why a game designer wouldn't be fond of the idea. I wasn't saying it was right or wrong just why he might've felt that way about them.



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Martin hates fanfiction written for ASOIF. I didn't know that until I was 50,000 words unto mine and I will admit it has really put me off continuing it

 

50,000 words? What was it about?



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But that's the thing, it's not clear. Just because we've found those files does not mean there was ever an intent to use them. While I'll admit removing those files would have prevented this sh!tstorm it is so easy for stuff like this to slip through the net, especially when everyone has been working 10+ hour days for months on end. 

 

Well, if we're to believe what that dev said then the intention was there. Of course, that person no longer works for BioWare and may not have been heavily involved in that side of thing so it's possible that she misunderstood or something.

 

I guess we'll have to wait and see what BioWare say themselves, if they choose to clarify things.