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[frylock23]

Given that we are talking about medieval times ... we are also talking about medieval sensibilities. Sure, there is probably a great deal of funk involved, but everyone had it so it was routine. You know how you get used to a smell after a while? Yeah, same here. The only reason we notice when someone smells bad is because they smell outside the norm. Someone who wore armor all day in that setting would not smell outside the norm. Remember, we are talking about a society that often sewed themselves into their own clothing for extended periods of time. Bathing was not a priority for even those who did not wear armor, so a healthy body odor was likely considered a good thing.

[alwayshungry]

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[Jean]

There is party banter with Vivienne and (I think) Dorian ganging up on Blackwall about smelling bad and how he should discover soap. 

[QweenBeen]

Given that we are talking about medieval times ... we are also talking about medieval sensibilities. Sure, there is probably a great deal of funk involved, but everyone had it so it was routine. You know how you get used to a smell after a while? Yeah, same here. The only reason we notice when someone smells bad is because they smell outside the norm. Someone who wore armor all day in that setting would not smell outside the norm. Remember, we are talking about a society that often sewed themselves into their own clothing for extended periods of time. Bathing was not a priority for even those who did not wear armor, so a healthy body odor was likely considered a good thing.

Nice objective observation, fry. And I suppose everyone would smell like their trade too, tanners, blacksmiths, cooks, stablemasters...mmm horse smell :-/ I think I'll stick with the hope that cullen bathes every morning. Scented water from all those herbs I pick all day

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

There is party banter with Vivienne and (I think) Dorian ganging up on Blackwall about smelling bad and how he should discover soap. 

 

I could actually imagine Blackwall smelling rather bad. All that time alone, why would he care what he smells like and that would be a hard habit to break once you are back in society. 

[QweenBeen]

There is party banter with Vivienne and (I think) Dorian ganging up on Blackwall about smelling bad and how he should discover soap.

Lol, missed that banter, sure I missed alot. His massive beard could probably use a good rinse every once in a while

[frylock23]

I just think of it like The Hunger Games' version of 'body base zero.'  Yep, we all smell bad, so that's just normal and no one pays any attention. It's what's around that that matters. So what smells are there outside of the normal body odor? If someone bathed ... that's noteworthy because it's different. If someone picked herbs, that's noteworthy because it's different ... etc.

 

Oh and Tevinters would be different in a way because they are patterend loosely off of Rome, and bathing was a big deal in Rome. Even then, their idea of a bath was somewhat different than ours involving different swimming pools and sticks called striga (or something similar) to scrape off the crud on your skin which was a mix of oils and dead skin. This was done by bath attendants (read slaves).

[alwayshungry]

There is party banter with Vivienne and (I think) Dorian ganging up on Blackwall about smelling bad and how he should discover soap. 

I've only heard the one where Blackwall asks Dorian how he gets his hair to do what it does.

[QweenBeen]

I just think of it like The Hunger Games' version of 'body base zero.' Yep, we all smell bad, so that's just normal and no one pays any attention. It's what's around that that matters. So what smells are there outside of the normal body odor? If someone bathed ... that's noteworthy because it's different. If someone picked herbs, that's noteworthy because it's different ... etc.

Awww Peeta and Gale smell too?! Maaan...
Haymitch for sure...ugh week old booze all over that man

[frylock23]

Gale ... the outdoors with a small amount of animal and some very faint blood (he is a hunter)

 

Peeta ... bakery smells

 

Haymitch ... no, not going there

[Akaneryuu]

so was someone else very pissed at this? I keep yelling at my screen everytime I get to that point. Noooo My looooot. DAMMIT 

Spoiler

And ofc the dramatic MAKER NOOOO 

[Cyrenne]

so was someone else very pissed at this? I keep yelling at my screen everytime I get to that point. Noooo My looooot. DAMMIT 

Spoiler

And ofc the dramatic MAKER NOOOO 

First time playing this:

 

Uhhhh look, loot *bridge gets destroyed* NOOOOOOO why???

 

Now everytime I see it "It's a trap!!!"

[frylock23]

Yeah, I've asked about it before? Why troll us BioWare? The only thing I can think of is that maybe it's the sword/bow/staff that appears when we fall?

[Cerulione]

Nice objective observation, fry. And I suppose everyone would smell like their trade too, tanners, blacksmiths, cooks, stablemasters...mmm horse smell :-/ I think I'll stick with the hope that cullen bathes every morning. Scented water from all those herbs I pick all day

 

Well... headcanon: After the quizzy - Cullen relationship start to move to the next step, Josie & Leliana start to remark this because the Commander smells like the Inquisitor... a faint trace of something flowery. Crystal Grace? They had surely bathed together now

[Akaneryuu]

Yeah, I've asked about it before? Why troll us BioWare? The only thing I can think of is that maybe it's the sword/bow/staff that appears when we fall?

the weapons are probably from dead soldiers. The point remains you can't just make people believe in something and then just take it away from them! I am someone who needs to loot everything she sees even if it's sh*t and I still have nightmares about that coin purse. 

[Cerulione]

the weapons are probably from dead soldiers. The point remains you can't just make people believe in something and then just take it away from them! I am someone who needs to loot everything she sees even if it's sh*t and I still have nightmares about that coin purse. 

 

I remember that after doing the whole detour thing, you can actually go back to loot that pouch. Try to explore the area, there are ways to go back to the other side of the bridge.

[Cantina]

so was someone else very pissed at this? I keep yelling at my screen everytime I get to that point. Noooo My looooot. DAMMIT 

Spoiler

And ofc the dramatic MAKER NOOOO 

 

You CAN get to that loot.

 

Spoiler

Go forward as normal. Fight the two Shades, then the Wisp and the other Shade. Instead of following the path up towards your goal, you need to climb the rocks next to the wall up above where you fought the two Shades.

 

There is gold laying on the ground behind some broken carts/wagons. Go forward towards the ruined bridge, go through the arch way to reach the gold you seek.

[QweenBeen]

Well... headcanon: After the quizzy - Cullen relationship start to move to the next step, Josie & Leliana start to remark this because the Commander smells like the Inquisitor... a faint trace of something flowery. Crystal Grace? They had surely bathed together now

Speaking of which, where is that marble bath my snarky quizzy asked Josephine for?! Now would be the time.

And that loot does drive me crazy. I've played the opening like 5 or 6 times because I'm trying to perfect my quizzy, and ugh. I hopped once and got soooo close! "missed it by THAT much"

[QweenBeen]

You CAN get to that loot.

Spoiler

Go forward as normal. Fight the two Shades, then the Wisp and the other Shade. Instead of following the path up towards your goal, you need to climb the rocks next to the wall up above where you fought the two Shades.

There is gold laying on the ground behind some broken carts/wagons. Go forward towards the ruined bridge, go through the arch way to reach the gold you seek.

*gasp* thanks!

[Akaneryuu]

I remember that after doing the whole detour thing, you can actually go back to loot that pouch. Try to explore the area, there are ways to go back to the other side of the bridge.

whaaaaaaaaat I need to walk back to it... no waaaayyyy. If there is something I hate more than not being able to loot my stuff That's having to walk back to loot stuff. 

It's complicated. I'll just keep my nightmares 

[Cantina]

I’ve noticed something that is kind of bothersome with Cullen.

 

At some point Cullen will talk you about what happened to him in Fereldan’s Circle. Then later he will say,

 

“I never told anyone what truly happened to me in Ferelden’s Circle.”

 

This made me stop and think, you know breaking stuff down to see all the pieces.

 

I recall in DA2 that Cullen spoke openly to Hawke about what happened to him in the Circle.

 

Cullen: “I still have nightmares about Uldred’s depravities.”

 

Cullen: “I was in the Circle Tower during the Blight. I was kept in a cage for days? Weeks? Months? It was one unending nightmare. I saw what those mages did. I would gladly give my life to never go through that again.”

 

I don’t see how Cullen says he never told anyone what truly happened in Fereldan’s Circle when in fact he did. If there was to be something more revealing perhaps the script could have called for explaining exactly what they tortured Cullen’s thoughts with. Of course this would depend on if your Warden was a female mage. Not only that explaining how Cullen was captured and how long he actually been within the magic cage.

 

To me Cullen just reveals what he revealed to Hawks-nothing new.

 

Am I missing something?

[Akaneryuu]

I’ve noticed something that is kind of bothersome with Cullen.

 

At some point Cullen will talk you about what happened to him in Fereldan’s Circle. Then later he will say,

 

“I never told anyone what truly happened to me in Ferelden’s Circle.”

 

This made me stop and think, you know breaking stuff down to see all the pieces.

 

I recall in DA2 that Cullen spoke openly to Hawke about what happened to him in the Circle.

 

Cullen: “I still have nightmares about Uldred’s depravities.”

 

Cullen: “I was in the Circle Tower during the Blight. I was kept in a cage for days? Weeks? Months? It was one unending nightmare. I saw what those mages did. I would gladly give my life to never go through that again.”

 

I don’t see how Cullen says he never told anyone what truly happened in Fereldan’s Circle when in fact he did. If there was to be something more revealing perhaps the script could have called for explaining exactly what they tortured Cullen’s thoughts with. Of course this would depend on if your Warden was a female mage. Not only that explaining how Cullen was captured and how long he actually been within the magic cage.

 

To me Cullen just reveals what he revealed to Hawks-nothing new.

 

Am I missing something?

maybe he ment he never told anyone in the inquisition?Or maybe he never told anyone how he always felt or still feels about what happend?.. Leliana probably knows because of the HoF. But it's a good question I always wondered myself. 

[LolaLei]

so was someone else very pissed at this? I keep yelling at my screen everytime I get to that point. Noooo My looooot. DAMMIT 

Spoiler

And ofc the dramatic MAKER NOOOO 

 

LMAO! That last picture is like her going "nooooooo! the loot was so close!!!"     

[riverbanks]

I’ve noticed something that is kind of bothersome with Cullen.

 

At some point Cullen will talk you about what happened to him in Fereldan’s Circle. Then later he will say,

 

“I never told anyone what truly happened to me in Ferelden’s Circle.”

 

(...)

 

Am I missing something?

 

Bolded: he's specifically saying he never anyone the whole truth, isn't he? What he told Hawke was the cliff's notes version of events, what every survivor in the tower would know had happened to him - that he was kept in Uldred's magical cage, watching everyone else die. Anyone present at the event could have told Hawke that. Perhaps he told the Inquisitor everything, including the parts where there was a demon involved, and the very intimate and personal nature of the visions the demon gave him that made it such an "unending nightmare." In certain specific playthroughs it involved fem mage Warden yeah, but not all -there are playthroughs where she doesn't exist- and that may not have been all the demon used against him; we now know he has a family, for instance, and that's something that breaks people very easily under torture. It would be interesting if one of the reasons he stays away from his family is because, after something he saw in those nightmares, he subconsciously considers them safer away from him.

 

And then, in their sex scene, the IQ acts pretty nonchalant about his nightmares, like it's something she's so used to, and it's possible she knows the contents of his bad dreams too at that point, that she wouldn't even ask what they were about. From his wording in this conversation and her reaction in bed, I think we can safely assume he's told her the whole ugly truth over time, and we just didn't see it happen onscreen for practical meta reasons - it would eat up a lot of word count, it would be repetitive for people who've played Origins and disengaging exposition for people who haven't, etc. It may be just a writing short-hand to signify that he did tell her everything, even if we didn't watch him doing so.

[LolaLei]

I’ve noticed something that is kind of bothersome with Cullen.

 

At some point Cullen will talk you about what happened to him in Fereldan’s Circle. Then later he will say,

 

“I never told anyone what truly happened to me in Ferelden’s Circle.”

 

This made me stop and think, you know breaking stuff down to see all the pieces.

 

I recall in DA2 that Cullen spoke openly to Hawke about what happened to him in the Circle.

 

Cullen: “I still have nightmares about Uldred’s depravities.”

 

Cullen: “I was in the Circle Tower during the Blight. I was kept in a cage for days? Weeks? Months? It was one unending nightmare. I saw what those mages did. I would gladly give my life to never go through that again.”

 

I don’t see how Cullen says he never told anyone what truly happened in Fereldan’s Circle when in fact he did. If there was to be something more revealing perhaps the script could have called for explaining exactly what they tortured Cullen’s thoughts with. Of course this would depend on if your Warden was a female mage. Not only that explaining how Cullen was captured and how long he actually been within the magic cage.

 

To me Cullen just reveals what he revealed to Hawks-nothing new.

 

Am I missing something?

 

I thought he just meant that he never really went into details about it, not that he went into details about it with the Inquisitor either, lol.