Oh, my, sounds like that could be a PT where the ashes were desecrated and Lel was in the party.
Leliana, Dorian and Cole are the only ones I am aware of that comment on Cullen's romance.
Leliana, Dorian and Cole are the only ones I am aware of that comment on Cullen's romance.
Sera does too. The whole Cully wully thing. I'm sad that it's the playthrough that I didn't recruit Dorian or Cole where I romanced Cullen.
Except we don't know that that was actually about Cullen. All we know there is someone asking Leliana about someone she doesn't want to talk about. It could easily have been some totally unrelated guy needling her about Morrigan or something. Or some guy obsessed with THE Hero of Ferelden (because it's the frickin' Hero of Ferelden and Leliana knew her)Naw, in the one I found today on YouTube Leliana hates the Warden because she gets angry at Cullen for asking, says something like "is he STILL obsessed after this long?? Has he been drinking?! I do not want to talk about what *she* was like!" As if she really hated her, lol!
Yeah, I assume so. Of course, the reasons he was asking what she was like isn't mentioned. Probably left for "interpretation" although Leliana calling him obsessed (despite being angry) doesn't need any interpretation to me. Creepy.
I was a little taken back when I heard it too. Though when I heard it, my first thought was either that the warden died and she was angry because they'd been romanced, or that she was actually talking about either Justinia or Marjolaine (though who to is a mystery).
Not gonna lie, I've never been happier that my Warden was a Cousland. I thought I might be missing out on Cullen content by not having a mage Warden import, but I'll take having a couple less lines of dialogue if it means Cullen's not an obssessive creep in my game, and my IQ is his true love, not just his sorry consolation prize.
Most of the time I import a world state with a mage Warden and I still think the IQ is his true love. He was very young when he was at the Circle and he even says it was "an infatuation." I remember my first infatuation more than 10 years later...if I meet someone that knows him I would think I would be curious as well. Did I love that person? I may have thought so at the time, but as an adult I can think back and say no, it wasn't love.
In regards to the bit of banter involving Leliana...I still would chalk that up to a guy being curious about two chicks, lol. Add in the fact that he's curious about someone he used to have a crush on and there ya go. Not to mention that you don't even hear it if you don't import a world state where the Warden romanced Leliana.
Thanks all
Are you from New Zealand????
If it helps, it's only happened to me once so far. The biggest problem is that apparently there is a distinct lack of variety in the armours qunari can actually wear.
Really? My female hasn't had any problems. I also love the vitaar...adds some nice spice to normally oogly headgear.
I don't think it's that creepy he asks about surana/amell? if i suddenly found myself working with someone who currently knows how the dude i had a crush on when i was 13 is doing i'd feel curious as well. it doesnt necessarily pings to me as particularly obsessive.
Well, it was a thought, though it kind of sounds as if it also has to be a Leliana romanced Warden maybe? I'm not too thrilled they inserted that myself unless it involves him being lyrium addled or something like that.
Yeah, unless Leliana also happens to be aware that Cullen is off Lyrium I'm inclined to believe she isn't aware of the deal he has with Cassandra. She specifically asks "I thought he was over this obsession? Has he been drinking?" which implies that she feels it's unlike him to bring it up. It sounds like he could be reliving past regrets that were dulled by Lyrium usage over time. As an Amell/Cullen shipper I'm pretty touched by his devotion. I think Furea also mentioned that the "drinking" line only happens if Leliana was romanced and Amell died making the Ultimate Sacrifice? I'm not sure, though.
It's why I prefer to think of the Quizzy as the person who shows him how to let go of his past so he can start anew. Moving forward with his personal life is something he struggles with throughout DAI, and I feel like Amell/Surana is just a part of that. He himself says he's never given much thought to what he'd be doing after the Inquisition because his life up until this point has been defined by his regrets, and I'm happy he learns to look forward to the future. He really doesn't mention the warden at all after you romance him. \o/
Yep from New Zealand, Christchurch to be exact. Though I'm a pom by Birth and nationality. That's why my Avatar is a Class 52 'Western' 
Hope y'all are doing well after that huge earthquake your town had last year.Yep from New Zealand, Christchurch to be exact. Though I'm a pom by Birth and nationality. That's why my Avatar is a Class 52 'Western'
Except we don't know that that was actually about Cullen. All we know there is someone asking Leliana about someone she doesn't want to talk about. It could easily have been some totally unrelated guy needling her about Morrigan or something. Or some guy obsessed with THE Hero of Ferelden (because it's the frickin' Hero of Ferelden and Leliana knew her)
And the war table comment doesn't necessarily mean he's still obsessed/infatuated either. It could just as easily be that he simply feels horrible for treating her the way he did when she came there to rescue him. He clearly regrets the man he became and that was the first instance of it, his "start of darkness" if you will. It doesn't seem farfetched that he might want to try to find some kind of forgiveness for that. However awkwardly.
The thing is, these comments are vague. It's all too easy to read things into them that aren't necessarily there. Certainly any one interpretation shouldn't be treated as gospel truth.
I personally never find his feeling towards mage Warden creepy. It would be creepy if he actively searching for her in the last ten years, or kept a scrapbook of her somewhere. But he mostly just keep the feeling to himself. He only asked about her because the person he's working with happened to be close with her. It's understandable because for one, she's the only woman that truly caught his attention in years, on the other hand, she saved his life but he was a jerk to her. The combination of affection and guilt can be very hard to get rid of. Depends on different people's head canon, his affection could be unrequited, but he didn't even confess his feeling until he thought she was a demon of sort. There is nothing wrong to have unrequited feeling if you don't bother people with it. But I'm not saying it's healthy...
Yeah, I agree. Cullen's always known where to draw the line and he never overstepped his bounds with her. He clearly was going to keep the infatuation to himself while he was at the Circle even if he was terrible at hiding it, the poor cutie. Also, his life after Kinloch has been such a roller coaster ride that honestly memories of knowing her from before all of that are probably the only good thing he remembers happening to him. He wouldn't be alive if not for her, and he was cruel the last time they met and didn't say goodbye. She was his savior, and of all the people he put his faith in over the years she's the only one who never let him down. I don't find it creepy at all that he'd still think highly of her after all this time. It seems reasonable that he would. It's definitely healthier to move on, though, that's for sure.
Last year? It's coming up for four years now. Will come February. Still a lot of empty spaces in what was the CBD. The rebuild is taking a long time. All the road works around where I live is testament to that sadly. Estimates reckon another 10 to 15 years before the rebuild is complete maybe even longer than that.
Oh crap mistake on the year must have saw something on the news about it last year and confused it happening then lol. Wow that pretty fast building time here in America it would take twenty five years.Last year? It's coming up for four years now. Will come February. Still a lot of empty spaces in what was the CBD. The rebuild is taking a long time. All the road works around where I live is testament to that sadly. Estimates reckon another 10 to 15 years before the rebuild is complete maybe even longer than that.
Last year? It's coming up for four years now. Will come February. Still a lot of empty spaces in what was the CBD. The rebuild is taking a long time. All the road works around where I live is testament to that sadly. Estimates reckon another 10 to 15 years before the rebuild is complete maybe even longer than that.
I'd say you were damned lucky to have left just before the Fed 2011 quake as that's the one that did all the damage.
I did see something on the news a week or so back about taking about 20 to 25 years to complete all the road repairs. Mainly because our City Council is pretty much flat broke.
Yeah, it was pretty close. I was on a bus to Queenstown at the time and heard the news on bus radio.I'd say you were damned lucky to have left just before the Fed 2011 quake as that's the one that did all the damage.
I did see something on the news a week or so back about taking about 20 to 25 years to complete all the road repairs. Mainly because our City Council is pretty much flat broke.
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eta: You know what, nevermind. As usual, I get page top with a dumb post. 
Have some Cullen for tops instead:
Not gonna lie, I've never been happier that my Warden was a Cousland. I thought I might be missing out on Cullen content by not having a mage Warden import, but I'll take having a couple less lines of dialogue if it means Cullen's not an obssessive creep in my game, and my IQ is his true love, not just his sorry consolation prize.
It's interesting to see this POV. I never imagined my Surana was anything more than a crush to Cullen. I took him at face value when my inquisitor asked him about her. It was just a youthful infatuation. The fact that one of the things he was tortured with was her image and the fact that she saved the world would make her pretty memorable. It hasn't been all that long in the grand scheme of things, especially if other people bring up "The Hero of Fereldan" on a semi regular basis.
Point being that it's shown in this game that Cullen is doing a lot of work to shed the burden of (or reconcile himself with) his past. He's off lyrium and trying to distance himself from the order and devote himself to something new. He's searching for news of his old comrades (Carroll) and trying to get closure. Not an easy thing. It surprises me that an outburst from Leliana or a half asked question that ends with her teasing him results in him being an "obsessive creep". I didn't interpret it that way at all. I certainly didn't feel as if it threatened or diminished his romance with my inquisitor. When he's questioned directly about the mage warden he says he wished he could have apologised. Considering how much guilt he seems to carry around with him I definitely felt that it was equally as important as searching for survivors from the Fereldan Circle, which he was already asking for Leliana's help with, not anything beyond that.
They try to put in dialogue to reference everyone's world states and that was obviously for the Mage Warden/Leliana players. I'm sure it's fun for them to hear him attempt to comment on it, just like everyone who enjoys hearing comments on the Cullen/Inquisitor romance. I think it's beautiful that people can interpret things how they like. It's why the dialogue is as vague as it is sometimes. It's a really fascinating exercise to see what other people make of various events that I didn't even consider. I'm sorry if it's spoiled things for anyone, but thank you for sharing!
I'll admit. My very first real boyfriend was a senior when I was a freshman, and his stated reason for breaking up with me was because he would be graduating and he didn't think it would be fair to leave me. Of course, all of two days later, I caught him running the halls with a sophomore. I proceeded to write him a scathing note and stuff it in his locker. Things about lying about his reason for wanting to break up, blah, blah, peppered with a lot of profanity and other not so very nice things.
And yes, the only reason the whole is still memorable after all these years is precisely because I do regret writing the note in that manner with that tone ... not because I was angry he broke up with me (things had more or less run there course), but because although I was justified in my anger because he lied and I should have been less vitriolic about it and pointed it out and then let it go. Now, I'm saddled with the guilt of knowing I wasn't any better about it than he was.
And if I ever ran into someone who knew him, I'd have to sit there day in and out and cringe over it and wonder ...
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