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#107451
Tishina

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That's a pretty wild leap of logic there, from a hand on the waist to heterosexual romances are generally submissive. Careful with the blanket statements, etc. 

I think CuriousArtemis's point is that hetero romances almost always show the male being the assertive partner; I don't think dominant was meant in the DS sense. I personally prefer a romance that seems to be relatively equal with both partners being equally assertive (or not.) But those are my personal preferences, and I've accepted those will be the minority of romances I see, whether because women really do prefer the other or because that's what writers think they want. I love Cullen's romance, but I do have to imagine the reactions (probably loud) to a romance with a male LI with the roles reversed in the kiss and office scenes (and to me, if you can't reverse those roles, then there's clearly one person who is the assertive partner which I think was Artie's point.) I absolutely think in Cullen's romance that would have been dead wrong; he has too much trauma in his past not to wait for him to be ready and she wrote an almost perfect romance for Cullen. But Maker, I'd love to see a romance where that was possible. BW generally manages to be fairly respectful, thank goodness, and the kind of romances that get written are really nice, but it does leave out a chunk of the possibilities and some of us just are resigned to never seeing anything like what we want (and it's entirely possible there are all of two or three of us, though I don't think so, but we do exist.)


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#107452
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*fans self* Indeed. I love how the kiss animation is unique for each character and fits them. That's such an evolution from DA:O!! I mean. Unf. 
 

(romance spoilery-ish?)

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Yes, he's been quite unexpected in a lot of ways, and very sexy. I even love the way he walks just after the Dawn will Come song, when he's lighting the torch to talk to you, he's so graceful and sure of himself.


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#107453
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Yes, he's been quite unexpected in a lot of ways, and very sexy. I even love the way he walks just after the Dawn will Come song, when he's lighting the torch to talk to you, he's so graceful and sure of himself.


I always expect him to go into his own solo when he does that, LOL!
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#107454
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I always expect him to go into his own solo when he does that, LOL!

OK, now I hope someone writes a fanfic of this :P



#107455
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You mean the mage-side Samson quest? That's not the one I meant, it was his personal lyrium quest that all players get. That one happens all in Skyhold, and involves Cassandra. If you haven't seen that one yet, then you have even more content to look forward to than you know. ;)

Oh ok, yea I meant the Samson one. [spoiIer] did get a lyrium cutscene at one point, but it did not involve Cassanda(although he mentioned her), he just said he hasn't used it and asked Cassandra to watch him in case he becomes incapable of doing his duty. I can't remember what resposes I selected exactly, but I was supportive of him quitting. [/spoiler] I figured there would be something more to it though eventually. Do this lyrium one or the Samson quest vary at all if you are in romance, or are they the same for everyone?



#107456
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OK, now I hope someone writes a fanfic of this :P

Can do better: Here's his VA actually singing. Would scare the **** out of me if I heard this coming out of Solas' mouth. 

 

http://arlath-mavhen...ing-tho-this-is


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#107457
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Can do better: Here's his VA actually singing. Would scare the **** out of me if I heard this coming out of Solas' mouth.

http://arlath-mavhen...ing-tho-this-is


Sounds like his music influence is Tom Waits.

#107458
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Can do better: Here's his VA actually singing. Would scare the **** out of me if I heard this coming out of Solas' mouth. 

 

http://arlath-mavhen...ing-tho-this-is

Wow! I rather like that, but dang, I don't want to hear it coming out of Solas's mouth either. :P



#107459
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No wonder I never got it, my Cullen romance was in my side-with-the-templars playthrough. I got the dialogue in my second playthrough, but then the romance option wasn't available because I was involved with Bull.

 

I love this expression:

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He looks so happy and proud.

Ok, so I shall be loading up this scene and grabbing this as a high-rez screenie for you guys later...  :ph34r:


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#107460
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The black and white looks so much better.

 

Makes more sense to me too. The Inquisition symbol is a black background with a hairy white eyeball...

 

I do love this as well...on everybody except Cullen...it makes him look too pale?



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There is a dark haired, male elf mage in the circular library, standing just past the table where you hand in research items, I was spam clicking him for his chat and he complained about having lost all but 4 copies of HiH and the quest just appeared in my journal under Skyhold.

I found Mr Quizquisition in my jail on the last playthrough, I'll have a look downstairs in the vaults for him, ty for the hint :)

 

OMG where is the vault and jail in Skyhold? I found a room where my bottles are kept and a cobwebbed out library. I've never seen this "quizquisition" guy!  :(



#107462
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Oh ok, yea I meant the Samson one. I did get a lyrium cutscene at one point, but it did not involve Cassanda(although he mentioned her), he just said he hasn't used it and asked Cassandra to watch him in case he becomes incapable of doing his duty. I can't remember what resposes I selected exactly, but I was supportive of him quitting. I figured there would be something more to it though eventually. Do this lyrium one or the Samson quest vary at all if you are in romance, or are they the same for everyone?

 

There's a second part to his lyrium quest, you probably just haven't triggered it yet because you went with the romance option first. It'll come.

 

The Samson quest has two extra flirt lines if you're romancing Cullen, but otherwise it's the same for everyone.



#107463
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OMG where is the vault and jail in Skyhold? I found a room where my bottles are kept and a cobwebbed out library. I've never seen this "quizquisition" guy!  :(

 

The door to the jail is in the courtyard, right next to the blacksmith. It's a sunken door that seemlingly leads into the garden, but actually goes into a dungeon where you find the jail and a terrifying waterfall you can fall down into if you run into the room too fast to stop. (not that it's happened to me or anything :P)

 

You only get the vault if you invest in the 15% price perk from Josephine. It opens up this Uncle Scrooge vault room:

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There's nothing here, really, it's just for show. But sometimes the Quizquisition guy spawns in there, preventing you from meeting him if you don't have that perk.


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#107464
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There's a second part to his lyrium quest, you probably just haven't triggered it yet because you went with the romance option first. It'll come.

 

The Samson quest has two extra flirt lines if you're romancing Cullen, but otherwise it's the same for everyone.

Awesome, thanks, I will look forward to that then :)



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The door to the jail is in the courtyard, right next to the blacksmith. It's a sunken door that seemlingly leads into the garden, but actually goes into a dungeon where you find the jail and a terrifying waterfall you can fall down into if you run into the room too fast to stop. (not that it's happened to me or anything :P)

 

You only get the vault if you invest in the 15% price perk from Josephine. It opens up this Uncle Scrooge vault room:

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There's nothing here, really, it's just for show. But sometimes the Quizquisition guys hides in there, preventing you from meeting him if you don't have that perk.

 

Thank you! 



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I saw one that had 6 people walking around in there whilst they were getting friendly on the desk, LOL!

 

Lol wow that's hilarious. I've never seen anyone else walk through any of the scenes like that. Closest was during the first kiss there were two random guards who walked by behind Cullen, but it wasn't too distracting. All the others didn't have anyone who wasn't supposed to be there.

 

Here you go: 

 

^_^

 

I love the bunny one because he said it and I immediately looked at the war map and thought "omg it really does look like a bunny!"


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#107467
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Does anyone know if the following is actual war room banter? I was in one of the other threads and the OP said something about it, but I don't know if it was something she came up with that she she wished she'd heard from the romance, or something that is actually said:

 

Leliana: Commander, one of the couriers may have an emotional scar for the rest of their life.

 

Cullen: What do you mean?

 

Leliana: Oh let’s just say that I know you were having a bit of fun last night.

 

Commander: What!

 

Leliana: I think it’s adorable.

 

Cullen: Maker’s Breath!

 

Leliana: (Laughs)"

 

OK. Let me clarify this with everyone: I made that dialogue up. It is NOT in the game. Though I DO appreciate those who enjoyed what I wrote.

 

I made that post and the dialogue because I was (and still am) disappointed in the lack of War Table and companion banter between Cullen and my Inquisitor's romance.

 

 

 

Aside from that. I keep hearing about how Cullen had naughty lines but they were cut? True? False? If true what were they?


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#107468
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Ok guys, this is gonna be a long one, but I got some awesome screenies last night of "In Your Heart Shall Burn" with Raven. I really wanted to share them all with you. Please let me know if you guys would rather I don't share them here. Spoiler'd for...well...spoilers...and size:

 

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#107469
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Aside from that. I keep hearing about how Cullen had naughty lines but they were cut? True? False? If true what were they?

GE commented on naughty lines, and considering things he's done that suggest he's not exactly prudish, I think the feeling is that they must have been cut.



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GE commented on naughty lines, and considering things he's done that suggest he's not exactly prudish, I think the feeling is that they must have been cut.

 

DLC anyone? I know there were some nice romance banter lines you get w/ DA:2 DLC so one can only hope!



#107471
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Ok so since there's been conversation on Cullen's supposed obliviousness, here's my headcanon for why Cullen doesn't arrest Hawke as an apostate:

I imagine he always sort of knew on some level, certainly suspected. It's just that he didn't really want to know, not at first. He's met and talked to Hawke and gets to know her as basically a decent person. Hawke helps the Templars out on occasion, too, even going so far as to rescue one of their own from crazy blood mages. (Here is actually why I imagine it this way - if you check the guy for possession and tell Cullen you're sure he's clear, he actually says "I'm not going to ask how you know that" or something to that effect.) So, Cullen isn't really inclined to look into Hawke's business too closely.

It kind of depends on how serious you imagine his problem with mages is at that point. Maybe he doesn't want to admit that Hawke could be a mage because that would conflict with his beliefs that mages/apostates can't be decent people. (That might be interesting actually - maybe mage Hawke was the mage who made him begin to see that all mages aren't bad after all?) Maybe he just doesn't want to end up in a position where he has to reward Hawke's help with an arrest. Or maybe he figures that if she is a mage, it might even be useful since she'd have a better chance of dealing with apostates peacefully as they might be more willing to listen to "one of their own", even more so than simply "not a Templar".

Then, of course, by the time Hawke becomes Champion, her mageness can't be denied. But by then, of course, she's Champion - loved by the people, and there's really not much they can do without losing massive approval.

I'm still trying to figure out what happens with the Viscount Hawke and the red lyrium and such. This is the version where he's Knight-Commander in the end, right? Does anyone know if there are multiple Knight-Captains under a Knight-Commander or just the one?
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#107472
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*snip*
I'm still trying to figure out what happens with the Viscount Hawke and the red lyrium and such. This is the version where he's Knight-Commander in the end, right? Does anyone know if there are multiple Knight-Captains under a Knight-Commander or just the one?

 

I could be wrong, but I think there's only one Knight-Captain per Knight-Commander...sorta like Jean Luc Picard and Riker. You need a #1 and #2 in command. 

 

And yes, I went there...I love TNG  :lol:


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#107473
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I could be wrong, but I think there's only one Knight-Captain per Knight-Commander...sorta like Jean Luc Picard and Riker. You need a #1 and #2 in command.

And yes, I went there...I love TNG :lol:

Dude. I grew up with TNG. :D
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I could be wrong, but I think there's only one Knight-Captain per Knight-Commander...sorta like Jean Luc Picard and Riker. You need a #1 and #2 in command. 

 

And yes, I went there...I love TNG  :lol:

 

I think that there's one Knight-Commander per region, and I base this solely off of Gregoir being a Knight-Captain. I feel like there was some impression given that the Knight-Commander of Ferelden was in Denerim, but it was never explicitly stated. (And yes, I could very well be doing mental gymnastics trying to make the lore fit with the game, when Gregoir really should have been a Knight-Commander all along.)



#107475
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You'll hate me for saying this, but it's actually rather easy to do because every copy respawns everytime you leave and come back to Skyhold. LOL So once you know where there's a stack near some of the companions, you can just pick em up everytime you swing by. Like Viv has a stack of 3-4. :P

And they still show up as highlighted items that prompt you to pick them up after you've completed the quest, which is sort of annoying.


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