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[Sifr]

It could be, given the sentience that is often prescribed to lyrium. And creating life is often the 'final frontier' for many advanced races, right? 

 

For myself, I'm still not sure we even really know what Solas's plan was.

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He needed a key to open the Veil, for some reason. Couldn't power the key, so asked Corypheus to do it for him. Why? Why would he trust Corypheus with this?  And, at what point in the story did he give it to Cory? Presumably Cory's been body hopping or something for past 3 years? Did Solas already know Cory from the 'old days'? Or did they happen to meet up recently and Solas decided to trust him...?

questionsquestionsquestions

 

I think that Solas didn't have a plan because;

 

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He gave Corypheus the Orb because he was the only person with sufficient power to activate it, as the only other option was to ask Flemeth and Solas knew that she'd refuse outright to go along with the plan.

 

The only thing I don't get is why Solas seems to want to tear down the Veil at some times and not at others?

 

The Orb can be used to tear a hole in the Veil, which is the thing we see it being used for most often. Abelas' comments about how the Anchor being familar magic seems to imply that the ability to punch a hole into the Fade was something the Ancient Elves knew of, which seems consistent with the Eluvians and Crossroads showing that the Ancient Elves were capable of engineering reality itself to create pocket dimensions within the Fade? This would also likely be the way in which Fen'Harel sealed away the Elven Gods according to legend?

 

Futhermore, the Mask of Fen'Harel from Dragon Age: Redemption also was being used by Saarebas there to create a tear in the Fade? Although given that there were several quibbles with bits of the lore in that series, it's ambiguously canon?

 

Then you have that initial conversation with him in Haven about how the Veil seperating the Fade and Thedas isn't necessarily a good thing, making it sound like a world where reality is defined by imagination is something that he'd prefer?

 

However, why does Solas then proceed to help us seal the Breach, close Fade Rifts and also direct us to Elven Artefacts to shore up the Fade? If he wanted the Veil to be torn asunder and the two worlds to merge into one, why does he aid us in preventing that from happening?

 

Y'know, maybe we should just do a playthrough ignoring Solas and only talk to Cullen, he's a lot less confusing!

 

[Hellion Rex]

Well, if FH is on his own time limit, why did he bother with sleeping for a thousand years?

[Queen Rowan]

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What if those things he's been getting us to activate has been strengthening our anchor instead? Solas may need to use us as a last resort if all else fails

 

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if so... do you think its possible that the ancient elves created the fade in the first place? and that's why those artifacts have a direct connection to the fade and could potentially strengthen the inquisitor's mark?

[R2s Muse]

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Do we ever get a codex about that ancient artifacts he has us activate?

I'm not convinced that the artifacts are related to the focii. But it is interesting that there doesn't seem to be a codex about them. Here's the wiki entry about the quest. http://dragonage.wik...suring_the_Veil
Note, that the elven lady also thought they would help with the Veil, so it's not just Solas's word.
 
 

What if that's why Fen Harel locked them away? To stop them from dying?
 

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Solas still had his orb until Corypheus got his hands on it, so he didn't need to seal himself away since until that point he would have been immortal... perhaps the reason why he's so desperate now to bring them back is because he's on a time limit with his own life.

Oh man, I love this idea.

[R2s Muse]

has anyone seen the letters that Cullen has sent to his sister because I've seen to be missing one

The whole correspondence is in his codex entry. You don't see everything he has sent. 

[Sifr]

Anyone seen the GeekRemix video where they speculate that;

 

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If Solas has been asleep for a thousand years, that means he was last active at the time of Andraste... who was also helped by a bald elf.

[Queen Rowan]

Well, if FH is on his own time limit, why did he bother with sleeping for a thousand years?

 

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well he might not have had that time limit when he was asleep

[CuriousArtemis]

Not you, you silly Boom. I mean around the forums, on tumblr, reddit, etc. There's a lot of wah-wah about cut content in DAI and comparisons to how Skyrim is so magical and full of content, but when you actually followed development of Skyrim and saw how much was promised and how much was cut there compared to the handful of things that were cut from DAI (or not even cut, but just fan theories that took airs of official announcement and later didn't come to fruition because it was never in the plans anyway)... heh. It's just weird.

 

Well in a sense it's BioWare's own fault for suffering these comparisons to Skyrim; I mean they actively declared an interest in Skyrim and then proceeded to transform the franchise into an open world game.

 

But these cries of "Skyrim is glorious and DAI is crap" are utter nonsense  The only way Skyrim edges ahead for me is my newly heavily modded Skyrim; it now has updated graphics to rival DAI's, has fully populated cities and forests, active weather, beautiful armor, and so on. So yes it's more fun than DAI (whose empty wasteland maps make grinding a chore for me). Skyrim is also simply bigger, with more quests, more characters, blah blah blah. So it can entertain me longer. I will probably be playing the same Skyrim playthrough for several 100 hours. Whereas with DAI, once I beat it at about 60-70 hours (I forget), I had no desire to play it again. Of course that would've changed if I had a romance I liked. But I still would've grit my teeth at all the incessant grinding I had to do.

 

In short it all comes down to personal preference, meaning, no one who says one is better than the other is wrong or right! Unless you say vanilla Skyrim is better than DAI, to which I say, again, you're a nutter

 

EDIT: And I have to say that BioWare (or perhaps EA or whomever) should indeed have the finger wagged at them for making the game "unmoddable" (yes small mods are being worked on but it will not rival Skyrim). Normally they produce a quality game that doesn't require much modding, but IMO (again with the opinions!) DAI is a confused first effort that could really use a boost from modders to make it more enjoyable.

[Queen Rowan]

Anyone seen the GeekRemix video where they speculate that;

 

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If Solas has been asleep for a thousand years, that means he was last active at the time of Andraste... who was also helped by a bald elf.

 oh...my...god...

[LolaLei]

I think that Solas didn't have a plan because;

 

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However, why does Solas then proceed to help us seal the Breach, close Fade Rifts and also direct us to Elven Artefacts to shore up the Fade? If he wanted the Veil to be torn asunder and the two worlds to merge into one, why does he aid us in preventing that from happening?

 

 

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Well, we don't know for sure what those artifacts he had us activate actually do. He told us it was strengthening the veil but he deceived us about a lot of things (right or wrong) so for all we know activating them could do something completely different. As for closing the breach/rifts he had to, it was dangerous especially with Corypheus trying to break into the Black City. I'd presume whatever Solas had planned to do with the orb it wasn't supposed to cause the amount of carnage that Cory caused lol.

 

Of course, that's if Solas was even planning to merge the two together, he may have just been trying to gain access to area where he sealed his people away to let them out.

[Sifr]

 oh...my...god...

 

Yeah, it's kinda cool to think about that;

 

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Shartan and Solas are the same person. His initial tarot card and Shartan's mural in the Chantry also look suspiciously similar, and in the other murals, Shartan is also depicted as carrying an Orb...

 

Here's the video;

 

[LolaLei]

Well, if FH is on his own time limit, why did he bother with sleeping for a thousand years?

 

Because he was immortal before that, if the orb is the source of his/their power then he lost his immortality when the orb broke... which could be another reason why

 

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Solas was so distraught. Not only did his means of restoring his people get ruined, but it could also mean that he's on a time limit to get it done now because he's essentially dying like every other mortal being. He doesn't have forever to get it done anymore.

[R2s Muse]

I think that Solas didn't have a plan because;

 

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He gave Corypheus the Orb because he was the only person with sufficient power to activate it, as the only other option was to ask Flemeth and Solas knew that she'd refuse outright to go along with the plan.

 

The only thing I don't get is why Solas seems to want to tear down the Veil at some times and not at others?

 

The Orb can be used to tear a hole in the Veil, which is the thing we see it being used for most often. Abelas' comments about how the Anchor being familar magic seems to imply that the ability to punch a hole into the Fade was something the Ancient Elves knew of, which seems consistent with the Eluvians and Crossroads showing that the Ancient Elves were capable of engineering reality itself to create pocket dimensions within the Fade? This would also likely be the way in which Fen'Harel sealed away the Elven Gods according to legend?

 

Futhermore, the Mask of Fen'Harel from Dragon Age: Redemption also was being used by Saarebas there to create a tear in the Fade? Although given that there were several quibbles with bits of the lore in that series, it's ambiguously canon?

 

Then you have that initial conversation with him in Haven about how the Veil seperating the Fade and Thedas isn't necessarily a good thing, making it sound like a world where reality is defined by imagination is something that he'd prefer?

 

However, why does Solas then proceed to help us seal the Breach, close Fade Rifts and also direct us to Elven Artefacts to shore up the Fade? If he wanted the Veil to be torn asunder and the two worlds to merge into one, why does he aid us in preventing that from happening?

 

Y'know, maybe we should just do a playthrough ignoring Solas and only talk to Cullen, he's a lot less confusing!

 

These are all good points. I'm not sure I'm convinced...

 

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that Solas wants to destroy the whole Veil. He could just be interested in releasing or whatever the folks he allegedly imprisoned.  But all good questions. that make my brain hurt.

 

Well, if FH is on his own time limit, why did he bother with sleeping for a thousand years?

Pfft. Good point. Forgot to set his alarm clock?? Maybe he was also affected by quickening and went into stasis? 

 

LOL Of course, this is all I can think of:

"What happened was, you had drifted right through the core systems, and it's really just blind luck that a deep salvage team found you when they did. It's one in a thousand, really. I think you're damn lucky to be alive, kiddo. You could be floating out there forever."

[Queen Rowan]

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Well, we don't know for sure what those artifacts he had us activate actually do. He told us it was strengthening the Fade but he deceived us about a lot of things (right or wrong) so for all we know activating them could do something completely different. As for closing the breach/rifts he had to, it was dangerous especially with Corypheus trying to break into the Black City. I'd presume whatever Solas had planned to do with the orb it wasn't supposed to cause the amount of carnage that Cory caused lol.

 

Of course, that's if Solas was even planning to merge the two together, he may have just been trying to gain access to area where he sealed his people away to let them out.

 

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and to add on to this if the ancient elves' souls are connected to the artifacts, maybe them not being turned on is what protected the elves and they were more metaphorically/mentally locked away rather than physically. and he believes that now is the right time for them to be awakened and is activating their orbs again.

[CuriousArtemis]

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Solas was so distraught. Not only did his means of restoring his people get ruined, but it could also mean that he's on a time limit to get it done now because he's essentially dying like every other mortal being. He doesn't have forever to get it done anymore.

 

OMG that's depressing

[neonmoth]

*snip*

My third favorite romance is Sera, who also doesn't get discussed a lot here... I guess because we just don't have a very large number of F/F fans? It happens, people tend to flock certain ways. More people here tend to like Solas romance, which did nothing for me - Sera's, on the other hand, is adorable and heartbreaking in just the right way for my tastes. I've romanced her with two different characters now, and resisting her has become the same struggle I have with resisting Blackwall's charms. Not flirting with them is haaard.

Sorry for chipping in the middle of the super interesting lore conversation but I absolutely adore Sera. She's bonkers and I love it. She's one of my fav companions, with crazy talks, pranks, roof time etc. She feels very real (especially in her fears) and down to earth on many levels but at the same time allows my quizzy to get some levity in her super serious world saving business. I don't mention her in here since I usually try not to go too much off topic. As for her romance, I haven't played through it yet --> I cannot decide on the Quizzy

[LolaLei]

OMG that's depressing

 

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But handy for an Inquisitor that romances him, if they do get back together she won't have to worry about getting old and him ditching her for a younger woman, LMFAO!

[Queen Rowan]

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and to add on to this if the ancient elves' souls are connected to the artifacts, maybe them not being turned on is what protected the elves and they were more metaphorically/mentally locked away rather than physically. and he believes that now is the right time for them to be awakened and is activating their orbs again.

 

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quoting myself lol. maybe he also had a feeling that putting his orb in the hands of corypheus was a potentially bad idea so he wanted to make sure the other artifacts were activated before something happened to him so the other elves could still be reawakened

[LolaLei]

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and to add on to this if the ancient elves' souls are connected to the artifacts, maybe them not being turned on is what protected the elves and they were more metaphorically/mentally locked away rather than physically. and he believes that now is the right time for them to be awakened and is activating their orbs again.

 

Oooooh, I like that!

[R2s Muse]

Yeah, it's kinda cool to think about that;

 

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Shartan and Solas are the same person. His initial tarot card and Shartan's mural in the Chantry also look suspiciously similar, and in the other murals, Shartan is also depicted as carrying an Orb...

 

Here's the video;

 

I could accept that

 

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Solas was Shartan. But... the bald dude carrying Andraste's ashes in those pic is supposed to be Havard, right?

[R2s Muse]

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But handy for an Inquisitor that romances him, if they do get back together she won't have to worry about getting old and him ditching her for a younger woman, LMFAO!

Indeed. Heh. I will have to collect this little fan theory and hold it tight as I prepare for my disappointment.

[Lorien19]

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But handy for an Inquisitor that romances him, if they do get back together she won't have to worry about getting old and him ditching her for a younger woman, LMFAO!

Lol,It's Arwen/Aragorn all over again!

[Lorien19]

I could accept that

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Solas was Shartan. But... the bald dude carrying Andraste's ashes in those pic is supposed to be Havard, right?

I think it was confirmed that it was indeed the case.Not 100% sure though.

[Queen Rowan]

Ordered all of the DA books I haven't read yet! SO excited to expand my DA knowledge

[Hellion Rex]

I could accept that

 

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Solas was Shartan. But... the bald dude carrying Andraste's ashes in those pic is supposed to be Havard, right?

Nope nope nope. I sincerely am praying neither Andraste and Shartan have anything to do with Solas and Mythal, cause that's just too much of a stretch in my opinion.