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[Ryriena]

I've known some who have been really happy for a long time in such a relationship. Done right, if you have the right personalities, it's great apparently. But I've seen two that almost destroyed the sub because it was based exactly on the knowledge that if they didn't agree, the dom would break off the relationship, and the dom knew that's why they were agreeing.

I just hope I don't have too go in to protective mode with my friends, if they do get in the unhealthy/abuse realationship for the BDSM and I was talking about Dorian/Bull since I see it as being potentially unhealthy.

[Hellion Rex]

Okay I'm not really on the "up and up" with these kinds of s/m relationships lol I assumed Bull was like ramming into him or something and causing all kinds of ruptures and what not, like, owie 

Yeah, I know, this kinda stuff can be a bit confusing to say the least. I highly, highly doubt Bull would do something so crass and hurtful without being a hundred percent sure that it's something you would like or something that you have said you would like to try. Caring for your sub is the cornerstone upon which such a relationship is built, and I don't see Bull breaking that all important rule.

[CuriousArtemis]

Yeah, I know, this kinda stuff can be a bit confusing to say the least. I highly, highly doubt Bull would do something so crass and hurtful without being a hundred percent sure that it's something you would like or something that you have said you would like to try. Caring for your sub is the cornerstone upon which such a relationship is built, and I don't see Bull breaking that all important rule.

 

Yeah cause it would be at odds with how he treats him normally... very sweet and protective.

[Queen Rowan]

The problem is that the people dishing out these GOTY awards don't sit down and play the games properly in full. Hell, when I first played DAI (glitches aside) for a while there (from prologue to just after reaching the Skyhold) I thought it might actually beat DA:O, but the more you play on the more you see it's story quality start to slip. I suspect most of the award givers blazed through it, likely not even completing it and based their scores off the first 10 hours of the game, if that.

 

Well and that's the other thing that annoys me. With DAO it's really hard to rush through the game even if you're trying because of the way the main quest is set up. You have to progress the main quest to get the side quests to pop up and even then the side quests are more meaningful. In DAI literally all the side quests are available as soon as you unlock an area to the point that it's almost like the main quest is a glorified side quest. And if you're going around doing menial tasks and putting up inquisition banners, it takes very little time to easily rack up power to unlock those main quests. So you could potentially finish the game super quickly at least in comparison to DAO where you're basically forced to enjoy the game. 

[CuriousArtemis]

But I can see that it's a bit like auto-dialogue only in this case it's auto-sex. All the characters have it, but in this case, you better be prepared to discover that your Quizzie is a submissive.

 

Yeah no sh!t, easy to say after I've already played the game lol I discovered it all right

[CuriousArtemis]

Well and that's the other thing that annoys me. With DAO it's really hard to rush through the game even if you're trying because of the way the main quest is set up. You have to progress the main quest to get the side quests to pop up and even then the side quests are more meaningful. In DAI literally all the side quests are available as soon as you unlock an area to the point that it's almost like the main quest is a glorified side quest. And if you're going around doing menial tasks and putting up inquisition banners, it takes very little time to easily rack up power to unlock those main quests. So you could potentially finish the game super quickly at least in comparison to DAO where you're basically forced to enjoy the game. 

 

I wouldn't mind doing that if it were possible... but you have to slug through all those stupid meaningless quests just to get to the recommended experience level for the main quests. It sucks!!!

[Hellion Rex]

Yeah cause it would be at odds with how he treats him normally... very sweet and protective.

Exactly. Cole literally said it the best way possible:

 

"He decides when and you measure it carefully, enough to enjoy, to energize, but never to anger. He's tied, teased, tantalized, but it's tempered to what he wants. He submits, but you serve."

[Queen Rowan]

I wouldn't mind doing that if it were possible... but you have to slug through all those stupid meaningless quests just to get to the recommended experience level for the main quests. It sucks!!!

 

And in my opinion you shouldn't feel like you're "slugging" through quests. Even side quests. It's almost like the amount of side quests is wayyyyy too disproportionate to the amount of main quests. I think there should be a solid 5-7 side quests for each main quest. And they should be good ass side quests. And also I think the power thing screwed them over because its what caused them to put in all the operations and stupid quests that were completely unnecessary otherwise. 

[Queen Rowan]

I actually made the mistake of not doing very many of the side quests in the beginning of my first/completionist PT because I thought they would pop up similarly to DAO and DAII and ended up being backlogged 3/4 of the way in and having to take a week break to complete them all before continuing with the main quest. 

[LolaLei]

Well and that's the other thing that annoys me. With DAO it's really hard to rush through the game even if you're trying because of the way the main quest is set up. You have to progress the main quest to get the side quests to pop up and even then the side quests are more meaningful. In DAI literally all the side quests are available as soon as you unlock an area to the point that it's almost like the main quest is a glorified side quest. And if you're going around doing menial tasks and putting up inquisition banners, it takes very little time to easily rack up power to unlock those main quests. So you could potentially finish the game super quickly at least in comparison to DAO where you're basically forced to enjoy the game. 

 

Yeah, that's the problem with going open world/semi open world because you've gotta fill all that space up with something. In DA:O and DA2 all the side quests (with exception of those weird fetch quests) tied into the main quest in some way, for example in DA2 you couldn't move onto act two until you'd earnt enough coin etc to do so, and you couldn't move onto act three until you'd done certain side quests that triggered the event to move the game onto the next important part of the story. 

[frylock23]

I pace myself. I do Hinterlands, Fallow Mire, Storm Coast, Crestwood in and around Haven. I work my way through Western Approach, Hissing Wastes, Exalted Plains in and around Wicked and Adamant. I do Emerald Graves and Emprise before I tackle Pride and the end.

 

If course, I bounce around and do clean up and various companion quests and dragon hunting and other things all through this.

[Queen Rowan]

Yeah, that's the problem with going open world/semi open world because you've gotta fill all that space up with something. In DA:O and DA2 all the side quests (with except of those weird fetch quests) tied into the main quest in some way, for example you couldn't move onto act two until you'd earnt enough coin etc to do so, and you couldn't move onto act three until you'd done certain side quests that triggered the event to move the story onto the next important part of the story. 

 

Exactly! I think a lot of game developers nowadays are under the impression that the game NEEDS to be open world for it to be good. And yea for some games it works. But there's so many different genres of games that it really shouldn't be limited to that one viewpoint. And DA really doesn't need it, and honestly shouldn't really have it, to be amazing. 

[LolaLei]

I pace myself. I do Hinterlands, Fallow Mire, Storm Coast, Crestwood in and around Haven. I work my way through Western Approach, Hissing Wastes, Exalted Plains in and around Wicked and Adamant. I do Emerald Graves and Emprise before I tackle Pride and the end.

 

If course, I bounce around and do clean up and various companion quests and dragon hunting and other things all through this.

 

I try to do the majority of the Hinterlands before being made the Inquisitor, since going backwards and forwards doing lacky work as the Inquisitor feels a bit jarring. For me it makes more sense to be doing that sort of thing while I'm still just a representative.

[MelissaGT]

Well and that's the other thing that annoys me. With DAO it's really hard to rush through the game even if you're trying because of the way the main quest is set up. You have to progress the main quest to get the side quests to pop up and even then the side quests are more meaningful. In DAI literally all the side quests are available as soon as you unlock an area to the point that it's almost like the main quest is a glorified side quest. And if you're going around doing menial tasks and putting up inquisition banners, it takes very little time to easily rack up power to unlock those main quests. So you could potentially finish the game super quickly at least in comparison to DAO where you're basically forced to enjoy the game. 

 

Welcome to the world of Skyrim... 

[frylock23]

Those rifts around the farm are hard to knock out right away. This play through I found myself returning to take care of Druffy and seal that rift in the gorge. I also need to go back with Felanderis at some point ... maybe ... if I think about it and feel like it.

 

But I do try to clear out the majority of each zone before moving on. Storm Coast is a big culprit for making you bounce back several times.

[LolaLei]

Exactly! I think a lot of game developers nowadays are under the impression that the game NEEDS to be open world for it to be good. And yea for some games it works. But there's so many different genres of games that it really shouldn't be limited to that one viewpoint. And DA really doesn't need it, and honestly shouldn't really have it, to be amazing. 

 

I like that the environments are bigger, but I don't think they need to be THAT huge. Ideally I'd scale all the environments down, remove 3 of the 4 desert areas (or however many there are, tbh I don't even bother with the Forbidden Oasis), turn Val Royeaux into a full scale large city with plenty of fun activities to do inside it, and then have each of the areas we visit in Thedas have side quests that tie directly into the main plot.

 

I have no idea why they didn't use the Emerald Graves and the Exalted Plains for side quests connected to the Winter Palace quest. If it was me, I would've wanted to earn our invitation to the ball by approaching either Gaspard, Briala, or Celene (depending on who you wanted to support for the throne) and done a series of quests for them, including trying to sabotage the other two or whatever. Completing a large chain of their quests would eventually grant us an invitation allowing us to undertake the main quest and move the story on.

[CuriousArtemis]

I would've liked to have seen the game before the extra year of development. I wonder how many of these quests were tacked on (the ball feels tacked on). I wonder if the game would've seemed tighter.

[LolaLei]

I would've liked to have seen the game before the extra year of development. I wonder how many of these quests were tacked on (the ball feels tacked on). I wonder if the game would've seemed tighter.

 

Oh man, no Cullen romance, no Solas romance, human only, big empty areas full of boring... I would've raged so hard!     

[fontofnothing]

I actually really like the semi-open world in DAI, but also agree that story content was spread thin. I found myself thinking that maybe they should have had less zones, with more story-related content available within the zones that remained.

[CuriousArtemis]

Oh man, no Cullen romance, no Solas romance, human only, big empty areas full of boring... I would've raged so hard!     

 

Well the only one of those which would've affected me is the human only aspect... which yeah, I would've raged Talk about take away the one thing I actually ENJOY about this game!

[Queen Rowan]

Welcome to the world of Skyrim... 

 

Well that's Skyrim's (and the other Elder Scrolls) thing right? I expect that when I start one of those games. Not DA. When I play a DA game I'm like bring on the laughter and the tears baby!

[CuriousArtemis]

Let's face it; they needed another year, possibly two years. Knowing what I know now, having played what they gave us, I would be content to wait.

[frylock23]

I'm still holding out hope that all this space is a base that they are planning on injecting DLC content around. Basically, they built the base and they won't have to add side content to support the new story stuff. We have all the power we need to buy those missions with the side content they have.

[MidgetNemo]

I agree with everything you guys are saying about the main quest being too short and the side quests being "filler" I really really hope that they release story focused DLCs not even more maps that have no connection to the main plot (bonus points if completing the DLC nets you some power because the power system sort of annoys me,since I find the side quests boring ) But yeah,remember how ME3 had a couple of side missions that were centered around whatever main quest you were doing ? Something like that would have been great.

[LolaLei]

Well the only one of those which would've affected me is the human only aspect... which yeah, I would've raged Talk about take away the one thing I actually ENJOY about this game!

 

I think my canon Inquisitor would've been a guy with the American accent if Cullen and Solas hadn't been romanceable, Cassandra or Dorian would've likely ended up his canon romance... hard to say really. Not sure what race I would've been, probably Qunari.