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[Teshayel]

I just prefer to keep all my protagonists alive and with their love interest where possible, lol.

 

The only Hawke I could sacrifice was the one that romanced Anders and then put him out of his misery at the end.

[Char]

*cough*cough* It better not be...

Spoiler

Solas

I think he has several shades of grey to him (no reference to the book intended) but I'm thinking someone a little less complex- someone the PC can have a full-blown rivalry with that reaches a turning point. Someone who will never be good but the PC will be the gap in their armour. Someone where the PC knows from the very start 'this is a terrible idea but it's going to be oh so much fun'

It'll almost certainly never happen though

[Teshayel]

I think he has several shades of grey to him (no reference to the book intended) but I'm thinking someone a little less complex- someone the PC can have a full-blown rivalry with that reaches a turning point. Someone who will never be good but the PC will be the gap in their armour. Someone where the PC knows from the very start 'this is a terrible idea but it's going to be oh so much fun'

It'll almost certainly never happen though

 

One can always hope for a character like Bishop 

[kalasaurus]

I think he has several shades of grey to him (no reference to the book intended) but I'm thinking someone a little less complex- someone the PC can have a full-blown rivalry with that reaches a turning point. Someone who will never be good but the PC will be the gap in their armour. Someone where the PC knows from the very start 'this is a terrible idea but it's going to be oh so much fun'

It'll almost certainly never happen though

 

Missed romance opportunity:

Spoiler

 

[Narcia_]

Now watch BW do a Weisshaupt DLC where Hawke dies in a cutscene without any player input, and all I can do is watch and cry forever.

 

NO! That would be too harsh for words ... Those kinds of choices are difficult enough, but BOO to off screen deaths.

 

Anyway, I'm a hopeful person. It worked out for getting more Cullen game time

[Char]

Missed romance opportunity:

Spoiler

 

My Shep would have gone there. Well, actually no she wouldn't, because Garrus but in a Garrus-free universe she would then again I am a real real sucker for the bad guys. It means I'm often very disappointed near the end of superhero movies

[FFZero]

I do kinda think people are grasping at straws with the wording here. I know some people got shafted with harder choices than others, so it's tempting to cling to phrasing in hopes that you didn't really kill this or that character, but... this is Virmire. This is Mordin versus Wrex. This is Tali versus Legion. BioWare is no stranger to making you kill your darlings to save another.

 

Time will tell, but I really think it's as simple as, the person left behind dies. At some point, we'll have to make peace with that.

 

While I agree to a point Bioware don't normally tend to be that vague when it comes to killing off characters. With Virmire you knew that whoever you left behind was going to die because of the nuke and with Mordin/wrex/tali/legion you were made aware that there was no middle ground or way to save everyone because of circumstances.

 

This time however they actually said they will just 'likely die', they gave us room to doubt and question whether the person left behind did kick the bucket or not. Makes me wonder if maybe the very remote possibility of them surviving is because they are actually physically in the fade. Do we know what happens to someone who physically dies in the fade? Can they die or are they stuck in some kind of weird Schrödinger's dead/not dead state?

[Teshayel]

I'm doing another Origin play through, and I just did the Broken Circle bit. Saw Cullen being tormented again (playing as a female Surana), and it just struck me how much his attitude changed from DA:O to DA:I. The writers did an awesome job with him Just thought I'd let the fangirl in me go squee in this thread

[riverbanks]

(...) then again I am a real real sucker for the bad guys.

 

If we're talking about romancing villains... I 100% seriously serious no jokes have at least one Warden I ship with Loghain, and one Hawke I ship with Meredith.

 

Bad guys are fascinating when they're well developed characters with depth and substance and character of their own, and more than mustache-twirling mwahahaha ~I am evil incarnate~ baddie bads like Coryfish. Killing Cory was like, eh whatever, you bad guy me good guy, time to die now - but I can rarely bring myself to simply kill off Loghain like that, and if there was any way I could have salvaged anything of Meredith, I would have. 

 

Come to think of it... that's probably why I like Calpernia better than Samson as villains. Because you can salvage something of Calpernia, but you can only condemn Samson, with no option to show mercy or sympathy, or anything beyond blind hate. The game never gives you the option to even say something like, what you did was absolutely atrocious and I can't absolve you of that, but know that I understand why you did it. How I wished I could have said at least that much to him before going all, off with his head!!!

 

I wouldn't ship any of my Quizzies with Samson, though. probably

[Laupe]

While I agree to a point Bioware don't normally tend to be that vague when it comes to killing off characters. With Virmire you knew that whoever you left behind was going to die because of the nuke and with Mordin/wrex/tali/legion you were made aware that there was no middle ground or way to save everyone because of circumstances.

 

This time however they actually said they will just 'likely die', they gave us room to doubt and question whether the person left behind did kick the bucket or not. Makes me wonder if maybe the very remote possibility of them surviving is because they are actually physically in the fade. Do we know what happens to someone who physically dies in the fade? Can they die or are they stuck in some kind of weird Schrödinger's dead/not dead state?

 

After what they did to Leliana, which I'm pretty sure I killed on DA: Origins I guess they decided to leave it open , you know, for the just in case scenario. 

[riverbanks]

Do we know what happens to someone who physically dies in the fade? Can they die or are they stuck in some kind of weird Schrödinger's dead/not dead state?

 

Allegedly, people being physically in the Fade has only happened twice in all of history (once with the original magisters, now with the Inquisitor), so I don't think we know the effects of being permanently trapped there.

 

Of course that also depends on whether we'll ever find out what the Fade actually is. Inquisition hinted a lot at the Fade being just a magical construct of the ancient elves that could just as well be unmade, instead of this untouchable parallel spiritual dimension of sorts we've been lead to believe it was until now, so we'll see.

[blauwvis]

Because you can salvage something of Calpernia, but you can only condemn Samson, with no option to show mercy or sympathy, or anything beyond blind hate. The game never gives you the option to even say something like, what you did was absolutely atrocious and I can't absolve you of that, but know that I understand why you did it. How I wished I could have said at least that much to him before going all, off with his head!!!

I didn't find that to be the case at all. My IQ questioned him about the intense loyalty shown by his men and did not express outright condemnation. She showed him mercy, of a sort, and had him confined for questioning. There was no execution. (Though execution may have been a more merciful option, given the lyrium withdrawal he has to look forward to.) And she was able to express sympathy for him in her conversations with Cullen, during and after the quest.

[stop_him]

For me it's easy. I leave Hawke behind in the fade. It's a no brainer for me for a number of reasons the main one being the way Hawke acts in DA:I is such a disconnect from DA2 it isn't funny.

 

I don't feel overly attached to Hawke as a character unlike say King Alibear and The Warden.

 

Hawke was DA's answer to Shepard and it backfired badly. Also don't get me started on the ME3 ending. That alone killed the series for me and killed any attachment I had to the ME cast.

 

So yeah I leave Hawke in fade.

^This

[Char]

If we're talking about romancing villains... I 100% seriously serious no jokes have at least one Warden I ship with Loghain, and one Hawke I ship with Meredith.
 
Bad guys are fascinating when they're well developed characters with depth and substance and character of their own, and more than mustache-twirling mwahahaha ~I am evil incarnate~ baddie bads like Coryfish. Killing Cory was like, eh whatever, you bad guy me good guy, time to die now - but I can rarely bring myself to simply kill off Loghain like that, and if there was any way I could have salvaged anything of Meredith, I would have. 
 
Come to think of it... that's probably why I like Calpernia better than Samson as villains. Because you can salvage something of Calpernia, but you can only condemn Samson, with no option to show mercy or sympathy, or anything beyond blind hate. The game never gives you the option to even say something like, what you did was absolutely atrocious and I can't absolve you of that, but know that I understand why you did it. How I wished I could have said at least that much to him before going all, off with his head!!!
 
I wouldn't ship any of my Quizzies with Samson, though. probably

I may or may not have idly thought this morning that things could have been very fun if the Inquisitor had been given options to flirt with either of those two
Completely unrelated but I also spent some time giggling over a moment in my Seramancing PT where Inquisitor Adaar got to say that the 'gift' she'd provided Sera was a 'demand of her Qun'

I miss Isabela as a companion

[CuriousArtemis]

I just prefer to keep all my protagonists alive and with their love interest where possible, lol.

 

This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that. 

[riverbanks]

And she was able to express sympathy for him in her conversations with Cullen, during and after the quest.

 

Yes, but not Samson himself. Expressing sympathy with Cullen (only to hear him rebut it, sigh) is not the same. You could discuss things with Loghain and Meredith themselves in the previous games, for instance, and see a whole other side of the character in their own words. The writing for Samson in this game was... let's say, not very invested in making him come off as anything more than an unsympathetic grrr arrgh bad guy. The only time when he's allowed to express his character from his own point of view (not Cullen's) is in judgement, and I didn't find any of the responses you can give there satisfactory. But we all know my feelings on this quest, so. I bow out of discussing it further before I get myself all worked up.

 

My point was more, tl;dr Cory sucks, well written villains are awesome.

[CuriousArtemis]

I think he has several shades of grey to him (no reference to the book intended) but I'm thinking someone a little less complex- someone the PC can have a full-blown rivalry with that reaches a turning point. Someone who will never be good but the PC will be the gap in their armour. Someone where the PC knows from the very start 'this is a terrible idea but it's going to be oh so much fun'

 

Ahh I'm reminded of how Kai Leng should've been a romance option in ME3  

[kalasaurus]

This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that. 

Yeah... I can only imagine how broken Izzy is after Hawke died

[Char]

This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that.

Can't. Won't. Hawke and Fenris -will- have their happy ending. As will my Warden and Alistair eventually.

[riverbanks]

Completely unrelated but I also spent some time giggling over a moment in my Seramancing PT where Inquisitor Adaar got to say that the 'gift' she'd provided Sera was a 'demand of her Qun'

 

YES, I laughed so much at this one too. Had done Sera with human and Dalish before, so I was expecting the usual sarcastic reply, when suddenly... demands of the qun.   

[AresKeith]

Ahh I'm reminded of how Kai Leng should've been a romance option in ME3

O.o

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[Queen Rowan]

Cullen doesn't like being c0ck-blocked

 

 

 

This scene is what wins me over in the romance hands down. 

[CuriousArtemis]

I just can't stop staring at how saggy her boobs are!!

[Char]

Ahh I'm reminded of how Kai Leng should've been a romance option in ME3  

I was too busy being annoyed that he kept making my Shep look stupid to consider that (for a change) but I think the books go into greater detail about him?

[CuriousArtemis]

I was too busy being annoyed that he kept making my Shep look stupid to consider that (for a change) but I think the books go into greater detail about him?

 

Hmm I have no idea; never read any of the books actually. I just thought he was very cute and sexy lol He needed snuggles. Poor ebil Kai Leng.