Ahh I'm reminded of how Kai Leng should've been a romance option in ME3
Haha I had this idea about how they could have had him be a squadmate and a LI in ME2 to better build him up as a character and with the rivalry thing Shepard has going on with him in ME3 actually meaning something(Also,the feels 
), then Bioware basically does this with Solas and I´m like "Ok but how about that happy ending?" 
I think he has several shades of grey to him (no reference to the book intended) but I'm thinking someone a little less complex- someone the PC can have a full-blown rivalry with that reaches a turning point. Someone who will never be good but the PC will be the gap in their armour. Someone where the PC knows from the very start 'this is a terrible idea but it's going to be oh so much fun'
It'll almost certainly never happen though
Oh, 100% agree! A sympathetic villain could be an awesome, tragic love interest.
Of course, thinking about the possibility of it happening... I am reminded of how much I loved the TV version of Blade, and how in love with the bad guy vampire dude I was, and how the story of the female lead starting to fall to the dark side for him was SO interesting... and that was right about when they cancelled it. Because, damn the success in the female 18-35 demo, they wanted to hit the male demo. So it was deemed a failure. Grrr.
Haha I had this idea about how they could have had him be a squadmate and a LI in ME2 to better build him up as a character and with the rivalry thing Shepard has going on with him in ME3 actually meaning something(Also,the feels
Oh, 100% agree! A sympathetic villain could be an awesome, tragic love interest.
Of course, thinking about the possibility of it happening... I am reminded of how much I loved the TV version of Blade, and how in love with the bad guy vampire dude I was, and how the story of the female lead starting to fall to the dark side for him was SO interesting... and that was right about when they cancelled it. Because, damn the success in the female 18-35 demo, they wanted to hit the male demo. So it was deemed a failure. Grrr.
Haha I had this idea about how they could have had him be a squadmate and a LI in ME2 to better build him up as a character and with the rivalry thing Shepard has going on with him in ME3 actually meaning something(Also,the feels
OMG I would've dropped Kaidan like a hot potato
OMG I would've dropped Kaidan like a hot potato
I did NOT know there was a TV series of Blade. Yum. May need to watch and share in your disappointment
Ah, shortlived, not really critically acclaimed (LOL), but I liked it. 
http://en.wikipedia....ade:_The_Series
And now I get to watch Neil Jackson in other things, like Sleepy Hollow. 
Can you imagine if they'd done that with Kaidan/Ashley instead of them developing a large stick in a place the sun doesnt shine? If ME2 had been spent constantly running up against them on opposite sides of the conflict? That would have made ME3 much more fun where they were concerned.
Weeell I liked how things worked out with M!Shep. I actually really like the Kaidan romance. I like the distancing that Kaidan puts between them in ME2, and Shepard's hurt feelings, and the reunion in ME3, and the constant questions by Kaidan, and Shepard snapping and getting annoyed, but then Kaidan is injured, and suddenly Shepard freaks out... it just works.
With a F!Shepard I think this alternate version could've been interesting though because there was an already established relationship.
I'll have to admit I have this morbid curiosity to see how Cullen would react if the Inquisitor had actually died in the final battle.
It will break him I think... I can imagine a scene with a funeral service (funeral pyre for human, burial for elves) with everyone saying something for the quizzy, Leliana sang In Uthenara. And Cullen just stay at the back, in silence, can't say anything. When everyone had gone, he's still there looking at the ember, then slowly put the Coin to the pyre. And then his knees gave up and he let out a single sob and let a single tear flow...
But ok, I have to admit that I'm very interested in seeing that in game... Half the waiting (before spoiler comes out) I nearly expected that Cullen won't make it to the end or will die at the end/go mad or something like that. We did get similar option with Alistair (drunk/killed/good ending).
If we're talking about romancing villains... I 100% seriously serious no jokes have at least one Warden I ship with Loghain, and one Hawke I ship with Meredith.
Bad guys are fascinating when they're well developed characters with depth and substance and character of their own, and more than mustache-twirling mwahahaha ~I am evil incarnate~ baddie bads like Coryfish. Killing Cory was like, eh whatever, you bad guy me good guy, time to die now - but I can rarely bring myself to simply kill off Loghain like that, and if there was any way I could have salvaged anything of Meredith, I would have.
Come to think of it... that's probably why I like Calpernia better than Samson as villains. Because you can salvage something of Calpernia, but you can only condemn Samson, with no option to show mercy or sympathy, or anything beyond blind hate. The game never gives you the option to even say something like, what you did was absolutely atrocious and I can't absolve you of that, but know that I understand why you did it. How I wished I could have said at least that much to him before going all, off with his head!!!
I wouldn't ship any of my Quizzies with Samson, though.
probably
Loghain is a hellishly well developed villain. The more I talk to Solas (he described Loghain once), the more I read The Stolen Throne & think about it, Loghain did what he did not just because of a lousy "I want to be God/King/whatever". His motive & situation just put him in a very gray area, for me at least.
That's what made DA:O a really good game, when the Big Bad Villain is actually in gray area.
This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that.
... I did that. And now I think that I'll have Fenris tracking my inquisitor like hell...
Weeell I liked how things worked out with M!Shep. I actually really like the Kaidan romance. I like the distancing that Kaidan puts between them in ME2, and Shepard's hurt feelings, and the reunion in ME3, and the constant questions by Kaidan, and Shepard snapping and getting annoyed, but then Kaidan is injured, and suddenly Shepard freaks out... it just works.
With a F!Shepard I think this alternate version could've been interesting though because there was an already established relationship.
This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that.
Hell no, sparky! This is never happening in one of my play-throughs. The "Dobby" he would pull would be on a scale of epic proportions and then he would probably go and punch his fist through the Inquisitors chest.
Nopity, nope nope.*cough*cough* It better not be...
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I head canon that Varric sent Fenris a letter with one word: Weisshaupt. And Fenris packs up, no questions asked, and heads to the Anderfels.This! It breaks my heart to think of Fenris being alone again after all these years. Imagine his face when he gets that letter from Varric. I can't handle that.
Ooh look who had learnt to drink!
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I wish we'd seen him in DA:I although knowing BW it would probably have been tragic.
Good for him! *squee* bless
I'm happy that Big Bro/Sis asked Aveline to get him out of there as fast as they could
Totally agree. I found Calpernia to be far more compelling.Yes, but not Samson himself. Expressing sympathy with Cullen (only to hear him rebut it, sigh) is not the same. You could discuss things with Loghain and Meredith themselves in the previous games, for instance, and see a whole other side of the character in their own words. The writing for Samson in this game was... let's say, not very invested in making him come off as anything more than an unsympathetic grrr arrgh bad guy. The only time when he's allowed to express his character from his own point of view (not Cullen's) is in judgement, and I didn't find any of the responses you can give there satisfactory. But we all know my feelings on this quest, so. I bow out of discussing it further before I get myself all worked up.
My point was more, tl;dr Cory sucks, well written villains are awesome.
Come to think of it... I felt even worse for Warden!Carver than I did for Izzy or Varric after Hawke kicked the bucket. Yikes, life must really suck for him at that point.
I'm happy that Big Bro/Sis asked Aveline to get him out of there as fast as they could
though those two (Aveline and Carver) never got on all that well really so I can imagine that being quite the tense journey my Hawke fully friended him on the warden path, I ended up never managing to finish a non-mage playthrough because I missed the sniping.
Ooh look who had learnt to drink!
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OMG, I hadn't seen that! Thanks!
D'aww, honestly, I loved seeing Carver in TLC. Big dunderhead.
Totally agree. I found Calpernia to be far more compelling.
What's interesting is that I found that the big main quest "villains"/ antagonists to be far more compelling than the overarching threat, similar to how I felt about DAO. Clarel, Florianne, the Nightmare, Envy, Alexius were all very well written in my opinion.
Actually, I find that many "villains" in DA:I is really good. Samson's just Samson & a huge "whatever", but it brings a good measure of Character Development to Cullen so I forgive him for that. Clarel's & Alexius are really well written actually, I always symphatize with them...
Good for him! *squee* bless
Argh! My Carver-poo. I would have been grinning like a fool for days if he had been DAI, but like you said it probably would have been tragic and they would have made us do something like choose between Hawke and their sibling at Adamant. I already have the "BioWare are jerks!" feels just thinking about it.
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