HELP, I just realized that Bull & romanced Inquisitor did bang on the Wartable. (around 1:15:5) & BW will tell Cullen on that
(imagine Cullen's reaction... That will be hilarious. They should've made Bull-Quizzy scene at the Wartable & everyone just gone inside, not at random bedroom!)
Oh my... wish that we can do that with Cullen. Okay, we did that on his desk.
Thanks for that! I needed a good laugh... and the imagery 
So today my cousin was trying to get me to get a Gondor tree t-shirt from this website and so I decided to do a quick search and found this (on an unrelated website)...
So... I'm curious, which characters have the best banter during Champions of the Just? I don't really care about tactics, just who would give the best content. The last time I did it, I brought Cass, Solas and Vivienne.
Question for you guys. Is there any way to trigger Perserverance before Wicked Hearts or Adamant? I don't want to start Cullen's romance til that starts (since I normally am have the romance triggered at that point, but I wanted to do something different this time around). I plan on doing Wicked Hearts first, but I don't want to miss out on the dance.
It seems it's too late now as you're already doing/done the ball, but... it is possible to finish Perseverance and start Cullen's romance, all before Wicked Hearts. I did this on my current playthrough: finished all his lyrium arc, started the romance, and still got his dance at the ball. You just need to complete the Abyss quest first to trigger his personal quest.
Whether it's worth it... in practical terms, all that happens differently is that he says "You're the Inquisitor... and you haven't always seen me at my best" in the kiss scene. And some of the flirts you get during his quest sound more intimate than if you're already romancing him, weird as that sounds (like the way you touch his chest when you first tell him to stay off lyrium - it's an incredibly intimate touch for someone who's supposedly just a friend at that point, and Cullen's surprised look at the touch makes more sense).
The only real difference is the perceived sense of progression from a friendship to a relationship, though. Like someone else mentioned, it feels less like dating a cute guy and suddenly finding out he's a drug addict, and more like helping a friend through a drug problem and later finding out you're in love with him. It makes the romance pace out slower, so you're not just falling into his bed the second you get to Skyhold, and it makes your involvement have a more solid basis - he initially tells you about his addiction in a very professional tone, but you help him out through it as a friend, and each time you flirt with him through his quests the way he looks at the Inquisitor less like the Inquisitor and more like [your name] is more and more... it feels like you can see him really falling in love with her throughout this process. Whereas starting the romance without this quest, I did wonder where did his feelings for you suddenly come from - you can headcanon that it happened at some point in Haven or through the journey to Skyhold, but it felt more fulfilling to see it happening on screen as you help through his most personal issue.
And it does change the tone of his objection in the kiss scene, of his hesitation to advance your blatant flirting into more than that. It's not just your rank, he's not just thinking "oh it's Inquisitor" - he's embarrassed to have let you see him with his guard down, he's keeping some distance because he's worried that it may have changed your opinion of him. It makes the scene a little sweeter when you're like, yeah yeah you big goofball just kiss me now.
So whether it's worth it or not depends on what you particularly enjoy for storytelling, and how you prefer to see the relationship play out. I personally liked doing Perseverance first a lot better, felt it made the romance more solid, but some people will prefer to go through that after the relationship is already established. But you definitely don't have to miss the ball for it - just do Abyss first, and you're gold.
^^^Wow. Now I'm going to have to hold off on the Cullen romance this playthrough. That sounds like an awesome way to roleplay it.
It seems it's too late now as you're already doing/done the ball, but... it is possible to finish Perseverance and start Cullen's romance, all before Wicked Hearts. I did this on my current playthrough, finshed all his lyrium arc, started the romance, and still got his dance at the ball. You just need to complete the Abyss quest first to trigger his personal quest.
Whether it's worth it... in practical terms, all that happens differently is that he says "You're the Inquisitor... and you haven't always seen me at my best" in the kiss scene. And some of the flirts you get during his quest sound more intimate than if you're already romancing him, weird as that sounds (like the way you touch his chest when you first tell him to stay off lyrium - it's an incredibly intimate touch for someone who's supposedly just a friend at that point, and Cullen's surprised look at the touch makes more sense).
The only real difference is the perceived sense of progression from a friendship to a relationship, though. Like someone else mentioned, it feels less like dating a cute guy and suddenly finding out he's a drug addict, and more like helping a friend through a drug problem and later finding out you're in love with him. It makes the romance pace out slower, so you're not just falling into his bed the second you get to Skyhold, and it makes your involvement have a more solid basis - he initially tells you about his addiction in a very professional tone, but you help him out through it as a friend, and each time you flirt with him through his quests the way he looks at the Inquisitor less like the Inquisitor and more like [your name] is more and more... it feels like you can see him really falling in love with her throughout this process. Whereas starting the romance without this quest, I did wonder where did his feelings for you suddenly come from - you can headcanon that it happened at some point in Haven or through the journey to Skyhold, but it felt more fulfilling to see it happening on screen as you help through his most personal issue.
And it does change the tone of his objection in the kiss scene, of his hesitation to advance your blatant flirting into more than that. It's not just your rank, he's not just thinking "oh it's Inquisitor" - he's embarrassed to have let you see him with his guard down, he's keeping some distance because he's worried that it may have changed your opinion of him. It makes the scene a little sweeter when you're like, yeah yeah you big goofball just kiss me now.
So whether it's worth it or not depends on what you particularly enjoy for storytelling, and how you prefer to see the relationship play out. I personally liked doing Perseverance first better a lot better, felt it made the romance more solid, but some people will prefer to go through that after the relationship is already established. But you definitely don't have to miss the ball for it - just do Abyss first, and you're gold.
After reading this, I'm def going to give it a try.
I am wondering does that mean you didn't flirt with him at all until during or after his personal quest? Not even with the chess scene?
^^^Wow. Now I'm going to have to hold off on the Cullen romance this playthrough. That sounds like an awesome way to roleplay it.
It really is. I wasn't expecting anything more than, yey cute I get one different line, but it actually changed the whole way the romance developed through the story until it was ready to really start. It was definitely worth the wait.
It really is. I wasn't expecting anything more than, yey cute I get one different line, but it actually changed the whole way the romance developed through the story until it was ready to really start. It was definitely worth the wait.
It sounds like it. In DA: O I tried slowing down the pace of the Alistair romance, and I did the same for Solas. I really like the friends to lovers type romance, so now I definitely have to give this a try and use your headcanon/roleplaying. It should work better for my Lavellan, too, because I was wondering how to approach his romance from the perspective of a Dalish elf. Thank you for sharing that.
After reading this, I'm def going to give it a try.
I am wondering does that mean you didn't flirt with him at all until during or after his personal quest? Not even with the chess scene?
No, you can flirt with him all you want, I took all the non-postponable flirts up to there (arrival scene, chess scene). All you have to do is not start the relationship via the "Let's talk about us" dialogue option. Let it sit there untouched until you reach the point where you think, ok now is the right point in their story to get all kissyface.
I did save a few of the postponable flirts (the ones you get through exploring his conversation trees) for later, though, so I'd still have more conversations and opportunities to get cute and flirty after his personal quest. One thing you have to more or less be careful with when you postpone his romance for later is burning through all his dialogue and cutscenes too fast and ending up with nothing to do with him until the next main quest stage. I saved the "Are you with anyone" flirt for after his personal quest (because that felt like a better place to be asking this question, after you've figured out you've both been dancing around each other but hey, maybe he already has someone), and several little conversations for after I activated the romance (like asking about his family, about Meredith, things that are deeply intimate to him and felt more appropriate asking him about as his girlfriend rather than his superior).
No, you can flirt with him all you want, I took all the non-postponable flirts up to there (arrival scene, chess scene). All you have to do is not start the relationship via the "Let's talk about us" dialogue option. Let it sit there untouched until you reach the point where you think, ok now is the right point in their story to get all kissyface.
I did save a few of the postponable flirts (the ones you get through exploring his conversation trees) for later, though, so I'd still have more conversations and opportunities to get cute and flirty after his personal quest. One thing you have to more or less be careful with when you postpone his romance for later is burning through all his dialogue and cutscenes too fast and ending up with nothing to do with him until the next main quest stage. I saved the "Are you with anyone" flirt for after his personal quest (because that felt like a better place to be asking this question, after you've figured out you've both been dancing around each other but hey, maybe he already has someone), and several little conversations for after I activated the romance (like asking about his family, about Meredith, things that are deeply intimate to him and felt more appropriate asking him about as his girlfriend rather than his superior).
Got it 
I'll have to try it after I finish my Solas romance PT (which is going slowly)
Dorian must get the best material ever: plain yellow plaidweave!
Is it bad that I want a link to these fanfics?
LOL I'm normally a great writer of fluff and happy endings, but even I dabbled a bit in this once. Once. Note, this was back before we knew his role in the Inquisition.
Newly reassigned to Val Royeaux in 9:40, Cullen has struggled to adjust to the upheavals in the Templar Order. A late night visitor may hold the key to Cullen's troubled heart, but will it ultimately cost him even more?
I saved all the dragon webbing and scale for Dorian because he looks great in orange. Also my quizzie is a human noble who takes fashion as serious as Vivienne does. "My boyfriend has to be the best dresser on the battlefield!"
Is there anything that will give you pink for a proper pinkquisition? I haven't found the colors of things I wanted to craft to be as varied as I'd hoped. But maybe that's because they're all leather armors. :/
Daaaaaaaamn it! You brainwashed me! Now I have to do it this way...it will took longer to get Cullen now...*cryIt seems it's too late now as you're already doing/done the ball, but... it is possible to finish Perseverance and start Cullen's romance, all before Wicked Hearts. I did this on my current playthrough, finshed all his lyrium arc, started the romance, and still got his dance at the ball. You just need to complete the Abyss quest first to trigger his personal quest.
Whether it's worth it... in practical terms, all that happens differently is that he says "You're the Inquisitor... and you haven't always seen me at my best" in the kiss scene. And some of the flirts you get during his quest sound more intimate than if you're already romancing him, weird as that sounds (like the way you touch his chest when you first tell him to stay off lyrium - it's an incredibly intimate touch for someone who's supposedly just a friend at that point, and Cullen's surprised look at the touch makes more sense).
The only real difference is the perceived sense of progression from a friendship to a relationship, though. Like someone else mentioned, it feels less like dating a cute guy and suddenly finding out he's a drug addict, and more like helping a friend through a drug problem and later finding out you're in love with him. It makes the romance pace out slower, so you're not just falling into his bed the second you get to Skyhold, and it makes your involvement have a more solid basis - he initially tells you about his addiction in a very professional tone, but you help him out through it as a friend, and each time you flirt with him through his quests the way he looks at the Inquisitor less like the Inquisitor and more like [your name] is more and more... it feels like you can see him really falling in love with her throughout this process. Whereas starting the romance without this quest, I did wonder where did his feelings for you suddenly come from - you can headcanon that it happened at some point in Haven or through the journey to Skyhold, but it felt more fulfilling to see it happening on screen as you help through his most personal issue.
And it does change the tone of his objection in the kiss scene, of his hesitation to advance your blatant flirting into more than that. It's not just your rank, he's not just thinking "oh it's Inquisitor" - he's embarrassed to have let you see him with his guard down, he's keeping some distance because he's worried that it may have changed your opinion of him. It makes the scene a little sweeter when you're like, yeah yeah you big goofball just kiss me now.
So whether it's worth it or not depends on what you particularly enjoy for storytelling, and how you prefer to see the relationship play out. I personally liked doing Perseverance first better a lot better, felt it made the romance more solid, but some people will prefer to go through that after the relationship is already established. But you definitely don't have to miss the ball for it - just do Abyss first, and you're gold.
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Is there anything that will give you pink for a proper pinkquisition? I haven't found the colors of things I wanted to craft to be as varied as I'd hoped. But maybe that's because they're all leather armors. :/
DAWNSTONE!!!!!!!!! lol
If you heard that banter betwen Bull and Blackwall.
Blackwall:So what's your favorite material, blood stone?
Bull: Too brittle. Dawnstone.
Blackwall:What?That's more brittle than blood stone.
Bull:It's pretty.
Blackwall:.....It's pink
Bull:It's preeeeetty!
So I made him full armor and weapon out of dawnstone and phoenix scale because they are both pink 
(Also Blackwall's favorite is silverite, which is no surpise..)
Do any of you know if you can get those tavern songs anywhere? I was pretty bummed that they weren't apart of the DAI soundtrack
https://www.dropbox.... Songs.rar?dl=0
The file has the french and the english versions of the songs.
There's also this reddit thread, where they have links on youtube for instrumental versions of some songs.
This is goldenNo, you can flirt with him all you want, I took all the non-postponable flirts up to there (arrival scene, chess scene). All you have to do is not start the relationship via the "Let's talk about us" dialogue option. Let it sit there untouched until you reach the point where you think, ok now is the right point in their story to get all kissyface.
I did save a few of the postponable flirts (the ones you get through exploring his conversation trees) for later, though, so I'd still have more conversations and opportunities to get cute and flirty after his personal quest. One thing you have to more or less be careful with when you postpone his romance for later is burning through all his dialogue and cutscenes too fast and ending up with nothing to do with him until the next main quest stage. I saved the "Are you with anyone" flirt for after his personal quest (because that felt like a better place to be asking this question, after you've figured out you've both been dancing around each other but hey, maybe he already has someone), and several little conversations for after I activated the romance (like asking about his family, about Meredith, things that are deeply intimate to him and felt more appropriate asking him about as his girlfriend rather than his superior).
I normally prefer slow burners when it comes to romance but since I played Cullen's on my first pt it was all over the place.
On my first PT (mage Trevelyan/Cullen) I just wanted to rush to start the romance as early as possible. It's still nice & very natural, but the taste will not be the same if you start the romance after Perseverance. Many people said that there are subtle dialogue change but from what I heard, this change is really something (good headcannon materials) since the whole meaning is changed.
My two cents on starting the romance after Perseverance, which I'll put under spoiler tags even though I don't think it's that spoilery:
edited to add that I totally didn't see ninetozero's post because I was in a rush, but what she said.
Modifié par Monica21, 05 janvier 2015 - 02:37 .
Dorian must get the best material ever: plain yellow plaidweave!
This is material of choice for Vivienne this pt. You look terrible darlingmyass *evilsmirk* Whenever I take her with me it brings a smile on my face. This or orlesian battlemage armour...
That reminds me of that high elf in Skyrim who insult your outfit even when you are wearing exactly same clothes with her...
To make up for my Inquisitor turning down the dance earlier:Cullen was pleased.
The white really makes his stubble stand out. Or at least it does to me.
Awww, Cullen being concerned. I know he's being all professional and practical about it, but I headcanon that his concern is a little deeper at that point.
Yeah this is pretty much how I head cannoned it too
Okay, I will say this once (and please everyone, don't kill me): actually many among us Cullenites are very ruthless. How many fanfics that I had read that actually depicting Cullen in an extremely miserable state: starting from extremely in pain from his withdrawal, being forced-fed red lyrium, got a desire demon put into him that made his waking moment as bad as his nightmare, to him dead, etc. One even goes further to Cullen (implied) to commit suicide after his lover died at the final attempt to defeat Cory. And to think that some of us do enjoy these kind of stuffs...
We... are... ruthless... and cruel...
I don't read a lot of fan-fiction. I have looked at a few and truthfully some of them have scared me with the stuff they put Cullen through. 
Maybe I just don't like the angst. lol Or how they portray him. I guess I don't see him as weak as others do.
But to each their own.
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