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#111826
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Writing is an incredibly strange experience for me. 

 

I've had characters change gender, age, race, sexual orientation, ect, but it's never like... A conscious choice I make. I'll have a general idea of what I may be going for, but then as I try to find a voice for said character, I'll get this nagging feeling that something's off. Said nagging won't go away until I find out what the source of the disgruntlement is. It's like the characters are trying to tell me something's not quite right, but they can't explicitly tell me, so I have to play a game until I finally figure it out. That is how my... Main, I suppose, character ended up from being male to female.

 

Even had one of my favorite characters decide to die on me. It was a disheartening day. cookiemonster.gif

 

*throws smokebomb*

 

Hehe :) I think everyone goes through such phases... I started my original story within a fantasy setting, only to end up having to scratch the entire world I created, and turn it into sci-fi :) Why? The story made more sense in a sci-fi setting :)

 

As for characters dying on you... well, if it adds value to the story, you have to be ready to let go :) Though it can be painful even for the reader. I'm looking at you, George R.R. Martin :P 



#111827
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If anyone wants, I can beta some fanfics. Please PM me. I'm itching to do some beta'ing.

 

I'm on AO3 and I wrote this FemShep/Garrus fanfic several years back...for some odd reason I'm big on descriptions and there's dialogue, witty marks here and there, and I always feel most comfortable writing from a male perspective even though I know nothing about "being a man". I'm a character writer if anything-huge focus on inner thoughts, etc.

 

As for those "smutty literature" moments I don't soak in it (HAHA). Usually one chapter or tidbit and done. If I'm writing any fanfiction I totally close the browser as if I had been caught watching porn, even if I'm not writing anything that descriptive.


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#111828
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I know right? I'll be sitting here playing DAI & then it will hit me "I've heard this before, but where? Oh yeah, when I was like 20 <_< "

 

Stop it! :P You're making me feel even older. I didn't play BGII unitil I was in my 30's shocking no? I came to the whole cRPG thing late but haven't looked back :D I think my first cRPG was NWN Gold I would have been about 29 at the time. I'm really showing my age now.


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#111829
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Stop it! :P You're making me feel even older. I didn't play BGII unitil I was in my 30's shocking no? I came to the whole cRPG thing late but haven't looked back :D I think my first cRPG was NWN Gold I would have been about 29 at the time. I'm really showing my age now.

If we're going to compare first RPG computer games, mine was Might And Magic I, :P



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The fun part of writing fanfic for me is getting the characters inner 'voice' how they tend to speak and act. I

That's the best part of the writing process. You can actually envision the character in your mind in new "cutscenes". This allows you to know him in much more depth than the game could possibly show. 


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#111831
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And as you explore new avenues, see every part of his life, coming to understand how he grew up, when he first fell in love, when he commited his first unforgivable mistake or sin, asf. He literally becomes yours, in your own way.
It's straining, but over time, you get used to it, so long as you don't overdo it and spend an entire day solely writing. And then doing the same the rest of the week.
Those writers that only focus on writing about sex will never experience that.


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#111832
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If we're going to compare first RPG computer games, mine was Might And Magic I, :P

 

Mine was Simon the Sorcerer! Yeah, I was like 8.  :lol:

 

Edit: Oh, then Daggerfall at 10.


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#111833
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Yeah I've been trying to sort of shout 'negative space!' at myself a lot internally, to use an art term; what you don't say can be as important as what you do say in so far as shaping the...word-space?...goes.  I've enjoyed writing it mostly, the ideas were pouring out of me for awhile but now I've got a bunch of vignettes and I feel like I've written enough that I want to tie them together and make them a coherent whole, but it's into the bit where it's work to write it down instead of just...translating for the Muse, so to speak.  There are still a few little things, the odd sentence or paragraph that I actually really love, but it doesn't 'fit' anywhere so I expect I will prune it out if I haven't already.  I suppose deleting/destroying some of what you create is part of writing too, like preliminary sketches you never quite get and don't end up using.

 

But hey, I like some of it ok - I can actually reread some bits of it and smile, instead of wanting to die! - and it's all practice I guess.  That novel we're all supposed to have in each of us ain't gonna write itself, and I'm not getting any younger...

 

I'm not opposed to smut for the sake of smut, because I've read some damn good smut. (You don't count, E.L. James. <_< ) The thing I really do love about those stories is when the "smut" isn't really smut but woven into the larger fabric of the world in which the characters live. The sex is part of the character growth and part of these characters falling in love. It's certainly possible to write good sex with two characters who are already in love, but what I find difficult about that is that the characters I'm reading about aren't necessarily the characters I've envisioned because there's no world building. So, when the author has built the world and the relationship and establishes the relationship growth, then I read the smut part and it doesn't read like smut; it reads like two people whose growth and character is already there. To me, the best scenes are the ones that leave a lot unsaid, but it's left unsaid because the author doesn't need to describe the intricacies of the act, but rather the emotions behind the act.



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And as you explore new avenues, see every part of his life, coming to understand how he grew up, when he first fell in love, when he commited his first unforgivable mistake or sin, asf. He literally becomes yours, in your own way.
It's straining, but over time, you get used to it, so long as you don't overdo it and spend an entire day solely writing. And then doing the same the rest of the week.
Those writers that only focus on writing about sex will never experience that.

I like your thoughts on this, but also don't forget that different people write for different reasons. I'm glad to see a variety of writing because as a reader, sometimes I'm in the mood for different things.



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I'm not opposed to smut for the sake of smut, because I've read some damn good smut. (You don't count, E.L. James. <_< ) The thing I really do love about those stories is when the "smut" isn't really smut but woven into the larger fabric of the world in which the characters live. The sex is part of the character growth and part of these characters falling in love. It's certainly possible to write good sex with two characters who are already in love, but what I find difficult about that is that the characters I'm reading about aren't necessarily the characters I've envisioned because there's no world building. So, when the author has built the world and the relationship and establishes the relationship growth, then I read the smut part and it doesn't read like smut; it reads like two people whose growth and character is already there. To me, the best scenes are the ones that leave a lot unsaid, but it's left unsaid because the author doesn't need to describe the intricacies of the act, but rather the emotions behind the act.

 

That sounds like Ken Follet's style. Try The Pillars of the Earth :) It's a damn good book :)


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#111836
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Mine was Simon the Sorcerer! Yeah, I was like 8.  :lol:

 

Edit: Oh, then Daggerfall at 10.

My oldest played M&M along with me, and kept it up after the series lost my interest. I think she may have played Daggerfall, I can't remember now :P


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#111837
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My oldest played M&M along with me, and kept it up after the series lost my interest. I think she may have played Daggerfall, I can't remember now :P

 

I am pretty sure at first I just used the game to go medieval shopping.  :lol:


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That sounds like Ken Follet's style. Try The Pillars of the Earth :) It's a damn good book :)

 

It is good! :) Unfortunately I've never followed up with the rest of his series.


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Some of my favorite fanfics, actually, have been one-time or a few short related stories that could be described as smut, just because they captured the characters so well and were so well written. Though I admit I really appreciate it when people tag stories clearly and correctly; I prefer to be a consenting reader about some types of content :P


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#111840
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It is good! :) Unfortunately I've never followed up with the rest of his series.

 

World's End is alright, but not as good as the first. Haven't read the third book, though. The problem with authors like Ken Follet (high throughput) is that the same characters are recycled. It may be unintentional, but it does have the effect of taking away the excitement in reading more than one or two of his books :) 



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I am pretty sure at first I just used the game to go medieval shopping.  :lol:

I think her favorite as an early teen was a Star Trek simulator. She spent most of her time designing custom ships and then testing how well they did in combat.

 

My younger daughter loved games that let her dress someone up in her rather unique style (then go kick butts, I'm afraid I didn't raise delicate flowers :rolleyes: ). I showed her the SS of IB in pink gear when someone posted a picture; I suspect she plans to do that in her next PT.


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#111842
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Some of my favorite fanfics, actually, have been one-time or a few short related stories that could be described as smut, just because they captured the characters so well and were so well written. Though I admit I really appreciate it when people tag stories clearly and correctly; I prefer to be a consenting reader about some types of content :P

 

No surprise sex scenes for you, eh? :D

 

Srsly, though, I take the tagging to the other extreme: better to be safe than sorry. So, I slapped an M on my story, just in case I needed to drop a f*** anywhere... :P



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No surprise sex scenes for you, eh? :D

 

Srsly, though, I take the tagging to the other extreme: better to be safe than sorry. So, I slapped an M on my story, just in case I needed to drop a f*** anywhere... :P

It isn't the sex scenes, per se, it's discovering that the story is going some place dark or unusual that isn't to my taste, especially if it's arguably outside an established character's personality. Snuff scenes, rape, etc. When I get that sort of surprise from a writer without a tag warning about it, I avoid their stories from then on.



#111844
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It isn't the sex scenes, per se, it's discovering that the story is going some place dark or unusual that isn't to my taste, especially if it's arguably outside an established character's personality. Snuff scenes, rape, etc. When I get that sort of surprise from a writer without a tag warning about it, I avoid their stories from then on.

 

Oh, I see. That'd upset me so much...  :angry:

 

I have been lucky enough to read a handful of excellent fanfics. My only complaint about fanfic in general is that I somehow always manage to stumble upon stories that have clearly been written by someone very young... And inspired by Twilight... :P



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It isn't the sex scenes, per se, it's discovering that the story is going some place dark or unusual that isn't to my taste, especially if it's arguably outside an established character's personality. Snuff scenes, rape, etc. When I get that sort of surprise from a writer without a tag warning about it, I avoid their stories from then on.

 

Yeah, it really is not cool when people don't tag that sort of stuff. I think I have even tagged one of mine with "Infertility" as it was implied a character couldn't have children. I think anything that could be a trigger for someone needs to be tagged. I hate for someone that was having trouble with infertility themselves to read my fic and have it upset them, especially if it something they personally wouldn't want to read about.  


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#111846
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Oh, I see. That'd upset me so much...  :angry:

 

I have been lucky enough to read a handful of excellent fanfics. My only complaint about fanfic in general is that I somehow always manage to stumble upon stories that have clearly been written by someone very young... And inspired by Twilight... :P

As long as they're posted in the right category so I can identify what they are quickly... Everyone writes for different reasons and starts at different places, and fanfic is a great way to develop the ability to write. I'm not personally interested in Twilight inspired work, but I don't like horror/vampires, etc in general. It's just a matter of taste.


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#111847
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So I've seen a lot of comments about this regarding lack of Dalish dalish-talk in game, but I hadn't seen this from PWeekes. FWIW. 

 

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#111848
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LOL Sexy dad Cullen! Meow! 

 

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http://emegustart.tu...st/107234816114


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LOL Sexy dad Cullen! Meow!

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I so want fanfic with over protective uncle Cullen when Mia and children visit Skyhold.(not sure if she has any though...)

I can imagine his youngest niece just crawl into his fluffy coat and refuse to come out, so he has to go to war room without it because he can't get it back no matter what he does. Everyone will be like "Cullen where is your coat." He will just be like"Don't ask..."*facepalm

#111850
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So I've seen a lot of comments about this regarding lack of Dalish dalish-talk in game, but I hadn't seen this from PWeekes. FWIW.

 

This explains that then. I was wondering why my Dalish Inquisitor didn't seem to know who Mythal was, yet later on was able to comment on the various Gods and their legends just a few minutes later...

 

Personally I'd chalked it up to an possible lapse in proof-reading... kind of like why at numerous points in the game, you have characters comment on the Breach as if it's still in existence (like Morrigan at Halamshiral), even though we closed it earlier in the game, and indeed can't even get to that mission without doing it first?

 

Unless they were just referring to the scar left by the Breach, it doesn't make sense unless closing it was supposed to happen later and got changed around in the re-writing process, but the dialogue referring to it was accidentally left in? Or the writers meant for it after all, and I just got the wrong end of the stick?

 

:huh: