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[Zarro-Morningstar]

I found that one too, LOL!

They could join that one poker party in that keep in Crestwood. You know the group that were all men but had both female and male voices, that would be quite the group with these elven and dwarven hybrids.

[LolaLei]

I didn't feel quite like that.  My IQ felt really close with Dorian and Cass particularly, and still fairly close to Varric.  It's weird, really, I get that Varric clearly considers Hawke to be his best and dearest friend, but when I played DA2 I'd have said Aveline was probably my Hawke's best friend - she knew her longer, and they were like sisters (weirdly, more like sisters than I felt with Hawke and Bethany...Bethany seemed so odd and distant after she went to the Circle.  They finally meet again at the end and it's meant to have been what, 2-3 years, in which time their mother actually died, and Bethany was just sort of like 'oh hey, it's you.  'Sup.')

 

With the others it felt more like colleagues than close friends, or semi-maternal (Cole and Sera, particularly, trying to help them work through some of their feelings and become a bit more mature.)  Blackwall I never really warmed to at all, I did very much get that 'put on a pedestal' feeling as you say.  Solas I could never get a handle on, weird combination of respect and condescension, but that does make sense for his character, really.  I wonder if that's partly why he likes spirits, and Cole, so much; in some ways, mortals, or some of us, are as baffling to him as they are to Cole, whereas spirits I guess are more transparent, for lack of a better word.  

 

My Inquisitor got on really well with Solas and I didn't even play as an elf! I was genuinely gutted for him when the orb broke and he buggered off.

[Hellion Rex]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I didn't feel like anyone was my "buddy." Unlike DAO, DA2, or ME. I could've played through ME with no romance at all and still loved it. And since I romance Kaidan with a guy I actually do play through ME and ME2 as a single guy. And I enjoy every second. I feel myself slowly growing closer to Garrus, slowly growing fonder of Tali, and just by ME3, this has become my family, and we are all in this together.

Interesting. I mean, in terms of ME, I wasn't friends with anyone but probably Liara (the best friend), Kaidan (the boyfriend), Jack, Miranda, and Samara, out of all the potential squadmates. I honestly could have cared less about the rest.

[Cantina]

Ok, someone needs to share/find the video of Cullen breaking up with your Inquisitor, please. I am dying to see that but don't have the heart to play it out then reload on my game. Yep, I am weird like that.

[CuriousArtemis]

It would had been pretty similar to the Fenris and Anders romances. I know one of them said that he could not choose between wanting to kill you or ravishing you...I think it was Anders. Can you imagine if Cullen had that kind of moment?

 

Fenris would never say that!!!  Definitely Anders. *firm nod*  (Never played the rivalmance with Fenris  )

[Hellion Rex]

Same for me.  I felt like Blackwall put me on some weird pedestal, Vivienne was just trying to use me, Sera was just tagging along to figure some crap out for herself, Cass and Leliana too focused on their own stuff.  Even Varric, where I felt like Hawke was his real friend, not me. Bull was kinda a friend, gave good advice and all, but nothing like shooting guns of the top of the citadel with Garrus.  If not for Cullen, i would have felt very alone in the game.

 

But perhaps that is what they wanted.  Having to become something bigger than we are to make the stuff happen.  Kinda feels like the end of the Elizabeth movie, where Kate Blanchette cuts all her hair to become a symbol over a person.  Depressing, really...but I guess I get it.

 

Miss Garrus

Damn that sucks.

 

 

Out of all the DAI people, my best friend was probably Cassandra. Bull and Dorian were my respective boyfriends, Cole was like my adopted son, and Varric was my bro, as was Cullen. Sera bugged me, a lot. Half the time I was giggling, the other half I sincerely wanted to kill her because she was so annoying. With Blackwall, I saw through him right away, from one of the first conversations that I had with him. The fact that he had gotten children killed erased any and all sympathy I had for his plight. I let him stay till the end, and then I told him he had to go to the Wardens.

 

Solas....was a nightmare. My Inquisitors liked him for the most part, with a few exceptions. When he argued with Sera on how to be an elf, I wanted to throttle him, because I didn't like the superiority complex that he was exuding. Also, when with Morrigan during What Pride Hath Wrough, the antagonism from him was ridiculous, especially since he wouldn't tell the group where in the hell he was pulling his knowledge from.

[BlueElf2]

Fenris would never say that!!! Definitely Anders. *firm nod* (Never played the rivalmance with Fenris )

I think It was Anders. I did his friendmance and rivalmance. LOL. I adored Fenris's friendmance, but I've never been able to bring myself to rival him.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Fenris would never say that!!!  Definitely Anders. *firm nod*  (Never played the rivalmance with Fenris  )

XD I wasn't sure! I'm sorry, lol. I am reading a comic with a love triangle between Fenris, Anders, and Hawke...much like my own canon. I first romanced Fenris and then he dumped my Hawke so I was like "bye!" and moved onto Anders.

 

What is the rivalmance with Fenris like though...I'm sure you know...

 

You can say a lot about Anders but both romance paths with him were pretty hot.

[fontofnothing]

Lol, it's a pain in the arse. 

 

Speaking of bugs, I found this funny looking creature in Emprise Du Lion:

 

[snip]

 

Body of an Elf, head of a human!     

 

Gotta love the funny glitches!

 

Fiona, there's something different about you...

 

Solas was having a bad day. First that awful helmet clipped through his face, and then the Guardian of Mythal tried to eat him.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Gotta love the funny glitches!

 

Fiona, there's something different about you...

 

Solas was having a bad day. First that awful helmet clipped through his face, and then the Guardian of Mythal tried to eat him.

Fiona looks like she has been working out...good on her! Although she may want to lay off the testosterone shots...unless she is going for a more bestial look.

[timebean]

Damn that sucks.

 

 

Out of all the DAI people, my best friend was probably Cassandra. Bull and Dorian were my respective boyfriends, Cole was like my adopted son, and Varric was my bro, as was Cullen. Sera bugged me, a lot. Half the time I was giggling, the other half I sincerely wanted to kill her because she was so annoying. With Blackwall, I saw through him right away, from one of the first conversations that I had with him. The fact that he had gotten children killed erased any and all sympathy I had for his plight. I let him stay till the end, and then I told him he had to go to the Wardens.

 

Solas....was a nightmare. My Inquisitors liked him for the most part, with a few exceptions. When he argued with Sera on how to be an elf, I wanted to throttle him, because I didn't like the superiority complex that he was exuding. Also, when with Morrigan during What Pride Hath Wrough, the antagonism from him was ridiculous, especially since he wouldn't tell the group where in the hell he was pulling his knowledge from.

I do love Cass...she is one of my favorites.  Loved romancing her, cause got to chip away at her tough outer shell.  Totally worth it.  But never felt like I had a real friend outside of romances. I just wonder what this game would have been like with no romances at all.  DAO would have been fine, ME would have been fine, but this game would have super lonely without them. 

 

In DAO, Wynne was my friend/mommy.  Oghren was my drinking buddy.  Sten was the man I wanted to impress and I just loved him so much when he finally liked me back.  I mean, I felt like they all had my back...personally.  But in DAI, I just felt like they were there.  Like I could have been anyone and they would have just followed along cause I had glowy bits.  But it could just be that I had a harder time getting into my own character in this game...tho not as bad as DA2, where I just loathed Hawke in all of my playthroughs.  But at least she illicited some kind of emotional response.  My DAI character feels kinda lifeless, but I think it is mostly because of the lack of choices (ie, different ways to tackle the side missions...is, using cunning or strength, etc).  I think the voice acting is great...but all my playtrhoughs feel the same because there is very little in the way of really making a chracter that handles situations in a unique way. 

 

Garrus was my all time favorite buddy in a game.  I don't really know why...maybe because of the shooting scene.  Seems like something me and my hillbilly friends would do (cough, have done). 

[R2s Muse]

So, can I just confirm, the scene where Solas asks if the anchor has changed you isn't romance specific? And the scene happens with him in your room, right?

f*cking hell!  Seriously?!?!  Solas loved my first Inquisitor. Totally platonically, but even for a human, he loved her. And I never got that scene until this elfy playthrough where I'm romancing him. Big sad. That totally casts our conversation into a different light. I'd been convinced he disapproved of her saying she hadn't changed because he wanted a tangible reason he liked her. To think, "Oh, it's because she's magically delicious now. It's not because I just like one of the lame Dalish." Now I am disappoint. :/

[MelissaGT]

Arti...I think you probably should had went with a PS4 for DA:I. Then again every game copy is different when it comes to problems, so who knows what may had been better or worse for you.

 

That's a shame that you did not have a lot of banter, stuff like that made me sympathize so much more with every character or laugh to the point of tears.

 

I never had anyone disappear on me...except Blackwall when he decided to hit and quit it. The Sera cookie quest was cute, but it was kind of meh. It made me like her character a bit more but other than that...meh. Now, Dorian his quest made me fall if love with his character so that's a bad miss.

 

I haven't had any quests glitch out. I do have intermittent banter, but I've noticed it picks up if I start turning quests in. I also have a hard time finding that messenger in Skyhold. 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

f*cking hell!  Seriously?!?!  Solas loved my first Inquisitor. Totally platonically, but even for a human, he loved her. And I never got that scene until this elfy playthrough where I'm romancing him. Big sad. That totally casts our conversation into a different light. I'd been convinced he disapproved of her saying she hadn't changed because he wanted a tangible reason he liked her. To think, "Oh, it's because she's magically delicious now. It's not because I just like one of the lame Dalish." Now I am disappoint. :/

...Typically I understand your posts, but this one has thrown me for a loop! R2...you have officially confused me....

[R2s Muse]

I've picked that option in both of my playthroughs, one romancing Solas and one romancing Cullen, and I don't remember getting any disapproval for telling him I didn't believe I had changed, but I may be misremembering.

Also, Hi Cullen thread! I've been lurking for a few days but finally decided to post. I usually hang out in the Solas thread but started lurking in here, too, after finishing my Cullen romance playthrough.

Welcome! I'm beginning to feel like the Solas thread is like our sister thread... like sister cities. LOL 

[R2s Muse]

Thanx guys according to Eham the meshes will have some limitations and  for the time being i just want to test it with a small grp of ppl, and since you guys are part of the awesome Cullenites  i figured id share with u 1st before "mass release" i expect some bugs to happen but i am looking forward to ur feedback

Just let me know how I can help. I think I know how to back up my saves so far...  

[riverbanks]

I think that not getting along with a companion is also really important characterization build up, both for your PC and the companion themselves. People worry too much about friending everyone, ending the game with full approval all across the board and everyone being BFFs, but sometimes your character and that one follower just don't click, and there's interesting storytelling in that too.

 

My Warden never got along with Morrigan. When she told her to leave at the end, it was a relief for both of them at the time, to be rid of each other - but to my surprise, Morrigan came back ten years later speaking well of her, regretting her death. So me Warden died thinking Morrigan despised her, but turns out she was wrong all along. How interesting is that? Then my Hawke butted heads with Anders from day one, it was a friendship of highest highs and lowest lows. And yet, when she saw herself forced to kill one of her closest friends in the end, even if out of mercy (rivalry path yah), it broke what little was still left holding her up together. When she came back in Inquisition sounding like a miserable heap of regrets, the first thing I thought was "you're still blaming yourself, aren't you." This is such a good outcome of eating up those rivalry points, though! It made for such a juicy story, for both Hawke and Anders.

 

And now there's Solas. I've accepted that my main IQ and Solas will just never see eye on eye. They believe in completely different things that can't be reconciled without either one lying to themselves or each other.... and that's alright. They had their reasons to keep working together until Solas didn't need her anymore, my IQ still respects him even if she never understood the first thing about him and won't even try reasoning why he left, and now I'm just waiting for what "Solas," or whoever he is now, has in store for her. It's obviously not over between them, so let the consequences come!

 

I guess my point is, it's okay to not get along with characters sometimes. Rivalries and antagonistic relationships also make for very interesting stories.

[R2s Muse]

...Typically I understand your posts, but this one has thrown me for a loop! R2...you have officially confused me....

I don't know that it's typical. LOL 

 

I didn't get that scene with Solas without romancing him. Which suggests my first playthrough was bugged. Not mysterious. It also means that the conversation isn't romance specific. Which makes it much less special. Disappoint all around.

[QweenBeen]

I'm so sorry so many of you guys had issues with bugs :-/ here's hoping even modders can do something about missing content but I'm not sure how that works. I think the Improved Atmosphere mod in DAO is supposed to bring back cut content so maybe something similar can happen? I never got banter in my first playthrough but didn't know til it was waaaay too late. I'm halfway through my 2nd and just waiting for these fixes before trying to be a completionist. I'll collect every darn shard if it means they talk to eachother on the way!!!

Been playing DAO again and I'm so addicted all over again! alistair so much I had to come here to remember what cullen looks like! And ahhh morrigan and lelianna banter is so good, I wish they'd refered to eachother more in DAI "perhaps lelianna approved of my low cut dress at the ball" or something cheezy

[timebean]

I guess my point, it's okay to not get along with characters sometimes. Rivalries and antagonistic relationships also make for very interesting stories.

Oh, totally agree!  Hated Miranda with a burning passion in ME2.  Made for a really fun playthrough!!

I wish we could have had rivalmances in game...would have been interesting.  I haven't been able to do a playthough where folks hate me.  How does one do that, I wonder?  i have seen the punching scenes, but wonder what the hell you have to do to get that low of a disapproval.  Be a completer psycho?  Does the game even let you do that??

 

It just seemed a little easier to get different reactions from folks in the other games.  In this game...I just don't get the approval/disapporval system. They all eneded up liking me no matter what i do...in a lukewarm kinda way.  Would have been happier if my choices really pissed off some folks and made other super happy.  But no one ever really seemed to care enough either way.  Perhaps I should try again and make bolder choices?  Maybe I am doing this to myself because of who I am playing...

[Zarro-Morningstar]

I don't know that it's typical. LOL 

 

I didn't get that scene with Solas without romancing him. Which suggests my first playthrough was bugged. Not mysterious. It also means that the conversation isn't romance specific. Which makes it much less special. Disappoint all around.

I usually can read your posts and get what you're saying, but this time once I finished reading it...I was like O_O. 

 

Ah! I get what you mean now...and once again I wish you luck when it comes to bugs. It seems that PC users and old-gen users got really shafted this time around.

[R2s Muse]

 

I guess my point is, it's okay to not get along with characters sometimes. Rivalries and antagonistic relationships also make for very interesting stories.

True. But it's also ok for folks to play the way they want to play...

[QweenBeen]

It may just be me but I feel like the rivalries worked so much better in DAO and DAI. My 2nd playthrough Solas haaaated me when I kept the wardens although it didn't seem to bother him at all when I was a magey elf not in a romance with him but aside from a conversation in his room, the rivalry never would've struck me. In DAO people really voice their opinions right then and there. Sten got pissed I went to haven before doing blight quests, morrigan is all attitude when I try to help people find their loved ones. She irks me so much and I love it so bittersweetly. Their personalities just shined so much more to me I guess?

[sugaafoot]

I don't know if this has been mentioned because I haven't been on here in a few days but I just got the cuuuutest dialog from Dorian about Cullen. It went something like..

Dorian: I notice you have a fancy towards something something handsome Templar.
Inquisitor: what?
Dorian: oh nothing, just something I find incredibly adorable about you.

I squeeed! It took me a few minutes to compose myself.

[QweenBeen]

I don't know if this has been mentioned because I haven't been on here in a few days but I just got the cuuuutest dialog from Dorian about Cullen. It went something like..

Dorian: I notice you have a fancy towards something something handsome Templar.
Inquisitor: what?
Dorian: oh nothing, just something I find incredibly adorable about you.

I squeeed! It took me a few minutes to compose myself.

Think it's young handsome templars or something like that. I literally "teehee"ed when he said that...I never teehee!