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What is the rivalmance with Fenris like though...I'm sure you know... :police:

 

I don't! I try to avoid it at all costs! My little heart can't take it :P :lol: I did try to rival him, but after he snapped at me for giving him his sword, I was just like NOPE!! and went back to an old, old save to re-friendmance him. I just can't take him being all bitter and angry. No, my Hawke likes to open him up slowly, like a flower, softly stroking his prickly petals until he starts to... oh this sort of got away from me. 


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YES, COLE, YASSSSSSS

 

"He is quiet behind the noise. The little bottle makes him shake, but he tests the chains."


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Also, off topic, but what the hell with the CC?  Went through making a male character, get in game, then realize he has bright pink shiny lips.  Damn it!  I forgot to go the make-up screen to decrease the shiny and take the default lip gloss off of him.  Why should I have to mess with the make-up at all for a male?  I wanted him to be all rugged and manly, but forgot that the default wants him all kissable and pretty.  Makes me feel bad for the guys who wanna play a tough-guy and then have to navigate the make-up screen.

 

I can imagine my boyfriend trying to mess around with the lipstick slider on his male quizzie.  "Are his lips too pink? Why are they shiny?"  kinda makes me giggle...



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Leliana is I think at the last blockade before Cullen & is usually standing on top of one of the ruined walls. I have seen her move around a bit too depending on where I end up fighting

Thanks I'll need to pay attention next time. I also saw Cullen everytime but never found Leliana. Also does Cullen say different thing when he's romanced or not romanced? I got different line when I met him at temple gate on my male and female IQ PT.
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I don't! I try to avoid it at all costs! My little heart can't take it :P :lol: I did try to rival him, but after he snapped at me for giving him his sword, I was just like NOPE!! and went back to an old, old save to re-friendmance him. I just can't take him being all bitter and angry. No, my Hawke likes to open him up slowly, like a flower, softly stroking his prickly petals until he starts to... oh this sort of got away from me. 

It was a beautiful little thing you had going there...but it did get a little away from you, lol. I think I may have to go and rivalmance Fenris...unless there are some videos of that? One thing I wanted to change about the interactions with Fenris was the fact that Hawke could not fire back at him, he could just crush mages and Hawke could just act like some sad Igor. I wanted my Hawke to snap.



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Also, off topic, but what the hell with the CC?  Went through making a male character, get in game, then realize he has bright pink shiny lips.  Damn it!  I forgot to go the make-up screen to decrease the shiny and take the default lip gloss off of him.  Why should I have to mess with the make-up at all for a male?  I wanted him to be all rugged and manly, but forgot that the default wants him all kissable and pretty.  Makes me feel bad for the guys who wanna play a tough-guy and then have to navigate the make-up screen.

 

You see those pale NORMAL looking lips on my boy there? *points to avatar* Hours of work. Okay, maybe not hours. But 15-20 minutes of adjusting sliders and shine and other crap.



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Thanks I'll need to pay attention next time. I also saw Cullen everytime but never found Leliana. Also does Cullen say different thing when he's romanced or not romanced? I got different line when I met him at temple gate on my male and female IQ PT.

 

He just says something like "keep going, I've got this" or something like that.



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I don't! I try to avoid it at all costs! My little heart can't take it :P :lol: I did try to rival him, but after he snapped at me for giving him his sword, I was just like NOPE!! and went back to an old, old save to re-friendmance him. I just can't take him being all bitter and angry. No, my Hawke likes to open him up slowly, like a flower, softly stroking his prickly petals until he starts to... oh this sort of got away from me. 

 

OH! I always rival-mance Fenris and it's best with an aggresive Hawke! I love it when you get the sex scene and Hawke is like "SHUTUP" and throws him against the wall. 

 

There are no words for what that Hawke is wearing...  :blink:

 


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It was a beautiful little thing you had going there...but it did get a little away from you, lol. I think I may have to go and rivalmance Fenris...unless there are some videos of that? One thing I wanted to change about the interactions with Fenris was the fact that Hawke could not fire back at him, he could just crush mages and Hawke could just act like some sad Igor. I wanted my Hawke to snap.

That comic strip you pointed us to earlier really nails the Fenris/Hawke romance in this way...diggin it...


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#114310
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Also, off topic, but what the hell with the CC?  Went through making a male character, get in game, then realize he has bright pink shiny lips.  Damn it!  I forgot to go the make-up screen to decrease the shiny and take the default lip gloss off of him.  Why should I have to mess with the make-up at all for a male?  I wanted him to be all rugged and manly, but forgot that the default wants him all kissable and pretty.  Makes me feel bad for the guys who wanna play a tough-guy and then have to navigate the make-up screen.

 

I can imagine my boyfriend trying to mess around with the lipstick slider on his male quizzie.  "Are his lips too pink? Why are they shiny?"  kinda makes me giggle...

Lol, it took me forever to make my guy look like he has normal lips...

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You see those pale NORMAL looking lips on my boy there? *points to avatar* Hours of work. Okay, maybe not hours. But 15-20 minutes of adjusting sliders and shine and other crap.

I know!  for me too, cause i wanted pale flesh-cololored lips on my wispy female.  And I have actually worn real make-up!!  That's what is so funny about imagining my mountain man beau trying to get the lips of his dude just right.  It is kinda mean, really.  He would be so lost!!!! :D


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#114313
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That comic strip you pointed us to earlier really nails the Fenris/Hawke romance in this way...diggin it...

I really love that comic series. It is best to start from the beginning...I think there is about 34 pages. The artist is still updating it...so I NEED my fix, lol.


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#114314
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It was a beautiful little thing you had going there...but it did get a little away from you, lol. I think I may have to go and rivalmance Fenris...unless there are some videos of that? One thing I wanted to change about the interactions with Fenris was the fact that Hawke could not fire back at him, he could just crush mages and Hawke could just act like some sad Igor. I wanted my Hawke to snap.

 

I'm sure there are videos out there; give it a look-see. Yeah that's why friendmance seems to work best for me because when Fenris would say his nasty stuff about mages and what not, I got the sense Hawke was just being very loving and patient with him (whereas in a rivalry I imagine Hawke would snap at him to shut up). Though there were a few times when I really wanted Hawke to be able to tell him to go sit in a corner and think about what he just said, and if he was good there would be make-up sex, but only if he was good.


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Lol, it took me forever to make my guy look like he has normal lips...

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Still in love with your quizzy!  He is gorgeous! 


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#114316
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There are no words for what that Hawke is wearing...  :blink:

 

There was one video I bookmarked to help me get through the puzzle in Legacy; only thing was, the Hawke was literally wearing a chainmail bikini, and it was just so weird and distracting :lol: Nevertheless I was always sure to leave a msg on the guy's YT page to let him know his puzzle helped me lol


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Thanks I'll need to pay attention next time. I also saw Cullen everytime but never found Leliana. Also does Cullen say different thing when he's romanced or not romanced? I got different line when I met him at temple gate on my male and female IQ PT.

 

This is what I got with an active romance:

 

I'm doing What Pride Had Wrought right now and...

 
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#114318
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True. But it's also ok for folks to play the way they want to play...

 

Not what I was saying, lol. I meant it as, sometimes people worry too much about it, like having a character dislike yours will break the game or something. Of course you can prefer to play being everyone's friend, it's just sometimes getting disapproval is okay too.


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Still in love with your quizzy!  He is gorgeous! 

Thank you! I need to get back to playing him, but I have not been finding any good warrior armor for him...so that is my little excuse as to why I have not started playing him again. I am going to go try to play him for a few hours and I will post some new screenshots...if I find new armor that is



#114320
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I don't! I try to avoid it at all costs! My little heart can't take it :P :lol: I did try to rival him, but after he snapped at me for giving him his sword, I was just like NOPE!! and went back to an old, old save to re-friendmance him. I just can't take him being all bitter and angry. No, my Hawke likes to open him up slowly, like a flower, softly stroking his prickly petals until he starts to... oh this sort of got away from me. 

LOL Do we need to give you a moment alone...? ;) :lol: :lol: 


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This is what I got with an active romance:


Whaaaaat?! Oy I was more glitched than I realize... :(

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This is what I got with an active romance:

He just says something like "keep going, I've got this" or something like that.

Yeah, that's what I got on romanced PT

But on my male quizzie PT he only said "press forward inquisitor" I think...

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I haven't been able to do a playthough where folks hate me.  How does one do that, I wonder?  i have seen the punching scenes, but wonder what the hell you have to do to get that low of a disapproval.  Be a completer psycho?  Does the game even let you do that??

 

Well it depends on what you define as being a complete psycho. :P I have been called that just for siding with the Templars, but you know. Tumblr.

 

The option to punch Solas comes from intentionally digging into his rivalry. I had the dialogue option to start the argument that leads to it come up a few times, just from his disapproval getting low enough at points - siding with Templars/conscripting the mages and then forgiving the Wardens gives you two consecutive great disapprovals, and that's enough to make it show up. I never took that option because it's not an argument my IQ wants to have with him (it starts by accusing him of being addicted to the Fade, which is something that I feel my IQ, as a non-mage with little understanding of magic, really has no business having any opinion on), but the option was there if I wanted to explore it. I don't believe I did anything particularly psycho to earn it, though. ;) Just natural gameplay choices.

 

The crisis point with Dorian that leads to his punching scene, however... I've no idea on that one. I've never seen him greatly disapprove of anything I've done, really.


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I'm sure there are videos out there; give it a look-see. Yeah that's why friendmance seems to work best for me because when Fenris would say his nasty stuff about mages and what not, I got the sense Hawke was just being very loving and patient with him (whereas in a rivalry I imagine Hawke would snap at him to shut up). Though there were a few times when I really wanted Hawke to be able to tell him to go sit in a corner and think about what he just said, and if he was good there would be make-up sex, but only if he was good.

 

I've friend-manced and rival-manced all of the romance options for a straight female Hawke, and I can honestly say that I think I prefer the rival-mance path for all of them. The rivalry isn't meant to be enemies (or frenemies), to me it's supposed to mean that Hawke will question them if he/she doesn't agree with something, and in turn, they respect him/her for it. I forgot where I read it but I think it was a dev article I read once that summed up the rivalry aspect the best. The best example I have off the top of my head is with rival-mancing Anders. Friend-mancing him just skeeved me out because I knew something was up (he was my first romance so I really had no idea what would happen). My Hawke was just blindly la-dee-da-I-wuv-you-Anders following him even though she could tell something was wrong. He totally used her. Then when he blew up the chantry, she was like "Oh we'll run off together hun, it's ok, tee hee. (valley girl voice)" In a rival-mance, Hawke knows something is wrong and confronts him about it. Hawke pushes him to face his "demons," even though they do still win in the end. 

 

My Hawke will even rival-mance Sebastian every time. 



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I didn't feel quite like that.  My IQ felt really close with Dorian and Cass particularly, and still fairly close to Varric.  It's weird, really, I get that Varric clearly considers Hawke to be his best and dearest friend, but when I played DA2 I'd have said Aveline was probably my Hawke's best friend - she knew her longer, and they were like sisters (weirdly, more like sisters than I felt with Hawke and Bethany...Bethany seemed so odd and distant after she went to the Circle.  They finally meet again at the end and it's meant to have been what, 2-3 years, in which time their mother actually died, and Bethany was just sort of like 'oh hey, it's you.  'Sup.')

 

With the others it felt more like colleagues than close friends, or semi-maternal (Cole and Sera, particularly, trying to help them work through some of their feelings and become a bit more mature.)  Blackwall I never really warmed to at all, I did very much get that 'put on a pedestal' feeling as you say.  Solas I could never get a handle on, weird combination of respect and condescension, but that does make sense for his character, really.  I wonder if that's partly why he likes spirits, and Cole, so much; in some ways, mortals, or some of us, are as baffling to him as they are to Cole, whereas spirits I guess are more transparent, for lack of a better word.  

 

I was honestly really touched when I finally triggered Cass's high approval scene and we were both able to, officially and almost shyly, mutually agree that we were hoping we could call each other friends. Cass is very similar to Cullen in that she's very stoic most of the time (but a sweetie at heart), so it made sense that we wouldn't look super chummy but would have a solid friendship based on trust and respect. It was such an honor to be held in such high regard by Cassandra because I just find her so compelling.

 

Dorian's presence was really comforting because he's so warm, and I really appreciated that he was able to openly and genuinely declare that we were close as friends. Maybe it's the introvert in me, but though I'm not shy in general I'm actually very shy about displays of affection myself so it was comforting the same way it was comforting that Alistair took the initiative when it came to the relationship. I adore him to bits and I just really want to see him end up happy.

 

I like to headcanon that Varric was working his way towards a closer friendship with me and that we just hadn't had the chance to hang out outside of Inquisitorialness duties the way Cullen says he's never talked to the Quizzy outside of work related matters. I wouldn't want to ever replace Hawke (and doubt I could) but I imagine we get closer later and him inviting everyone to Wicked Grace was his attempt to get closer to all the people he was working with.

 

And Cole is just too precious, I want to protect him and feed him nice things and sing "I can show you the world" to him (in a completely platonic way, of course)

 

I agree about Solas as well - I think Solas is far more comfortable with spirit friends because spirits have a purity of purpose that only others can corrupt. That purity makes them easy to understand and predictable even in the chaos of the fade. I think it's fascinating because there's a reverse parallelism of sorts - in the real world, physical things are very predictable and it is the spirits (minds) of people that are hard to pinpoint, whereas in the Fade, spirits are what are predictable and it is the "physical" aspects of the Fade that fluctuate and are shaped by peoples' dreams. I imagine he doesn't like the idea of humanizing Cole partly because he wants you to accept spirits for who they are, and partly because he finds it alarming that Cole will also become more complex in nature.


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