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[catabuca]

Am I correct in thinking this is from Before the Dawn?

 

Is that the one where Cullen comes with you to the Dumat place? (I'm really, really terrible with remembering quest names, and this is my first playthrough, sorry!) If so, yes. I've just got through the courtyard and into the main building. This is right by the door. Lots of nice red lyrium around to make pleasing backdrops. I've no idea how large this area is, but I expect there will be more opportunities for screenshots along the way.

 

Plus I've just added a new tool to my screenshot arsenal and I'm eager to give it a thorough workout (it lets me set custom aspect ratios and resolutions on the fly so I can get pictures like this one without cropping anything and at huge resolutions for better image fidelity - what you see in that picture is exactly what my game looked like, no cropping, no post-processing in an image editor, I just resized down from 2100x2800 to something more manageable and renamed the file for archiving).

[LolaLei]

Aren't we jumping the gun quite a bit though on this? Plus, that was years ago.

I'd hope so, but if he's that intent on killing them off (which he does appear to be).

[Hellion Rex]

If a character's death has actual meaning and is portrayed well, I have no problem with them being killed. I'd rather have that than have them linger on needlessly in the series.

[CuriousArtemis]

Aren't we jumping the gun quite a bit though on this? Plus, that was years ago.

 

Well how many times does someone have to say "I really want to write everyone dying in a glorious blood bath" before you start to believe them?

[LolaLei]

Hopefully that was just an off-hand comment (or more reasonable heads prevail ).

Who can say with DG.

[CuriousArtemis]

If a character's death has actual meaning and is portrayed well, I have no problem with them being killed. I'd rather have that than have them linger on needlessly in the series.

 

What I can't handle is letting us live in happy headcanon land for so long, like me imagining Fenris and Hawke having a happy ever after, then 4 years after I played the game, Fenris is brutally murdered in a DLC lol Um, no.

[Hellion Rex]

What I can't handle is letting us live in happy headcanon land for so long, like me imagining Fenris and Hawke having a happy ever after, then 4 years after I played the game, Fenris is brutally murdered in a DLC lol Um, no.

That's the inherent problem of head canon though. It can be shot to hell in the blink of an eye. The writers should not have to take in account people's headcanons.

[Hellion Rex]

Well how many times does someone have to say "I really want to write everyone dying in a glorious blood bath" before you start to believe them?

Well...how many times has he actually said that?

[Cerulione]

Well...how many times has he actually said that?

 

Does he ever really do that?

[Cantina]

Well this is depressing.

 

Been looking everywhere to see Cullen break-up with your Inquisitor. Finally found a video. I found it heart-breaking.

 

 

(Its towards the end. WARNING: You may need some tissues).

 

 

[Cerulione]

Well this is depressing.

 

Been looking everywhere to see Cullen break-up with your Inquisitor. Finally found a video. I found it heart-breaking.

 

 

(Its towards the end. WARNING: You may need some tissues).

 

 

 

All his breaking up scenes are very... sad. I've tried them in-game with my elf... for science, you know. Bad decision. Really made me cry literally.

 

The worse is when you let his hope up to start the romance, then just tell him that they'll be just friends. How his head slumps down...

 

I just can't...

[ThreeF]

^ I've been wondering about this: has anyone  chose to make him take Lyrium because they thought it would be a good idea?

[Cantina]

All his breaking up scenes are very... sad. I've tried them in-game with my elf... for science, you know. Bad decision. Really made me cry literally.

 

The worse is when you let his hope up to start the romance, then just tell him that they'll be just friends. How his head slumps down...

 

I just can't...

 

Agreed!

 

 

And those wondering what the break-up scenes are...

 

(Again a Warning: Tissues maybe needed)

 

 

[Cerulione]

^ I've been wondering about this: has anyone  chose to make him take Lyrium because they thought it would be a good idea?

 

I didn't for reasons on my own (it's a bad idea IMO) & always support his decision. But I've seen several arguments for people who did & they are valid reasoning one way or another:

- Cullen's way of stopping Lyrium might not be the safest one (cold turkey). Like he said, many people stopping his way will either die or gone mad

- talking a lot with Cole about Lyrium & Templar & Connection to the Fade & even with Dagna about lyrium, I'm not sure that there will ever be any Templars really getting off Lyrium without heavy price since according to Cole "their body is changed and want to connect with songs" or things like that. He also mention that Templars feels older than they look for some reason...

- depend on what you're considering as "good idea". Some people don't have many sympathy for Cullen & just want a fully functional General of Inquisition Army. There you go...

 

But if the contrary is for him living with a knowledge that one day he'll lose his memories, his minds... I can't. And telling him to go back to lyrium & stop later after the war is out of question for me. It'll be harder if he retakes it now. He'll have to go through all the painful process starting the beginning once again & this time he knows the sufferings that await further down the road.

[alwayshungry]

http://mizushibart.t...-him-more-often

[ThreeF]

I didn't for reasons on my own (it's a bad idea IMO) & always support his decision. But I've seen several arguments for people who did & they are valid reason anyway:

- Cullen's way of stopping Lyrium is not the safest one. Like he said, many people stopping his way will either die or gone mad

- talking a lot with Cole about Lyrium & Templar & Connection to the Fade & even with Dagna about lyrium, I'm not sure that there will ever be any Templars really getting off Lyrium without heavy price

- depend on what you're considering as "good idea". Some people don't have many sympathy for Cullen & just want a fully functional General of Inquisition Army. There you go...

 

But if the contrary is for him living with a knowledge that one day he'll lose his memories, his m

inds... I can't.

 

No, no I mean actually did it because they thought that would be the correct answer and then were forced to restart because  surprise! "break up". At the point i was making the decision i didn't even thought it was a possibility.

 

The argument you make, make perfect sense and I have opinion too on this (and for me it is a bad idea too, and it  has to do more  with him making a choice than the lyrium actually)

[mireisen]

 

But if the contrary is for him living with a knowledge that one day he'll lose his memories, his minds... I can't. And telling him to go back to lyrium & stop later after the war is out of question for me. It'll be harder if he retakes it now. He'll have to go through all the painful process starting the beginning once again & this time he knows the sufferings that await further down the road.

 

I think for most people the breakup was expected. He's going through a horrendous time and in his mind lyrium=work is more important/performance is more important than passions and such?

[Cerulione]

No, no I mean actually did it because they thought that would be the correct answer and then were forced to restart because  surprise! "break up". At the point i was making the decision i didn't even thought it was a possibility.

 

The argument you make, make perfect sense and I have opinion too on this (and for me it is a bad idea too, and it  has to do more  with him making a choice than the lyrium actually)

 

Zero probability does not exist. There will always be people who told him back to lyrium & not realizing they'll get dumped afterward. Or choose "we'll find safer way later" & does not realize that it's also possible to encourage him to stay on his initial decision.

 

I think for most people the breakup was expected. He's going through a horrendous time and in his mind lyrium=work is more important/performance is more important than passions and such?

 

I don't really get what you want to say actually, can you please explain a bit more?

 

I think that he tried to do both at the same time, being a good Commander & tackle his personal issue. That might be why he works so hard (one of the question we got to ask him when arriving at Skyhold was "Do you ever sleep" to which he responded things like "too many works to do" or something like that). But then he reaches his breaking point & feels unable to do both at the same time & afraid of being a liability. Which results in him talking to Cass...

 

I get a friend of mine (a guy who is uninterested in romancing him & don't like him in general but don't dislike him either) who told him back to Lyrium because he feels that Cullen had accepted the responsability of being a Commander of the Inquisition Army then he must assume this at all cost (including him back to Lyrium for better performance).

 

I mean, all the Perseverance quest when we're encouraging him to stay on his decision to stop lyrium is basically telling him "I'm okay if you want to do this, I can tolerate you not being as good as you could have been as a Commander if you're leashed back to lyrium." I honestly feel that just because we're in game that we can hardly see the difference of his "work performance" as a General.

[MelissaGT]

Is that the one where Cullen comes with you to the Dumat place? (I'm really, really terrible with remembering quest names, and this is my first playthrough, sorry!) If so, yes. I've just got through the courtyard and into the main building. This is right by the door. Lots of nice red lyrium around to make pleasing backdrops. I've no idea how large this area is, but I expect there will be more opportunities for screenshots along the way.

 

Plus I've just added a new tool to my screenshot arsenal and I'm eager to give it a thorough workout (it lets me set custom aspect ratios and resolutions on the fly so I can get pictures like this one without cropping anything and at huge resolutions for better image fidelity - what you see in that picture is exactly what my game looked like, no cropping, no post-processing in an image editor, I just resized down from 2100x2800 to something more manageable and renamed the file for archiving).

 

Cool, I'm pretty addicted to taking screenshots as well (link in sig). I've been playing around a lot with flycam and the DoF tool. Any chance you could tell me what tool you are using to change aspect ratios and resolutions on the fly?

[ThreeF]

"I can tolerate you not being as good as you could have been as a Commander if you're leashed back to lyrium."

That's the thing though, so far and as far as we know he was very good commander, I think the whole Haven disaster also played a role in his doubting himself, but I don't see how one can blame him for that.

[fontofnothing]

Messing around with makeup today (using a complexion):

 

 

Spoiler

 

Actual modified eyeliner (doesn't use a complexion like in the two shots above, but changes the appearance of eyeliner for everyone):

 

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Apologies for being off topic. Have a Cullen!:

 

 

[Ananka]

All his breaking up scenes are very... sad. I've tried them in-game with my elf... for science, you know. Bad decision. Really made me cry literally.

 

The worse is when you let his hope up to start the romance, then just tell him that they'll be just friends. How his head slumps down...

 

I just can't...

 

That one is so sad

Poor Cullen.

[CuriousArtemis]

That's the inherent problem of head canon though. It can be shot to hell in the blink of an eye. The writers should not have to take in account people's headcanons.

 

Well no sh!t lol Just stating how I would react.

[alwayshungry]

http://nazgullow.tum...-wind-searching

[mireisen]

 

I don't really get what you want to say actually, can you please explain a bit more?

 

 

Sorry if I was vague, still trying to word it right too. Cullen's doubts are reasonable, but he needs immense emotional support. The poor guy's doing this on his own and kudos for Cassandra for sticking and monitoring him, but that's all we get to see. Putting him back on lyrium, at least to me, is a way to say, "I need you at your best even if you break a promise". In a way that cheapens Cullen's sense of promises, perhaps? I took it that way, and I hate to equate but if he's not able to keep vows of that nature and he's already broken off from the templars, we're going down a slippery slope here with him. At this point, he might doubt that he's capable of keeping any promises, and therefore it's understandable/predictable for me to expect him to break it off with the IQ.

 

Being in a relationship while handling personal issues is not fun. But the reason why I would've stayed is simply if my partner supports my decisions/promises/goals/wishes. If a person tells me to do something I never wanted, I'd run for the hills too, and I did. I told one ex, "I'm not into xyz" at the beginning, then he said, "Let's do xyz." When he pressured for it I just about cried and his response? "You're no fun." Needless to say I broke up with him.