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[riverbanks]

The measure of intimacy that Envy takes with the Quizzy in his/her mind is what disturbed me the most, mainly. I can handle spooky demons just fine but when they get into your head and say stuff like "Tell me what you feel" / "I touched so much of you"...

This, this. What disturbs me in Champions is not the atmosphere or sense of dread in it, it's the level of mental violation Envy does to the Inquisitor. The line "I touched so much of you" still gives me full body shivers every time I do this quest, and I've done it enough times to know exactly when it's coming - still makes me twitch every time. When I refer to Champions or Envy as creepy, I'm not using it in the sense of "scary," but rather in the sense of, deeply unsettling given its questionable implications. But, of course, everyone's gonna read it differently.

As far as actual "scary" creepy goes, the empty haunted house in the Emerald Graves (before you activate the zombies) and the temple frozen in time in the Western Approach are the scariest atmospheres in the game for me.

[Iceyone]

I have such mixed feelings on Cullen being my Quizzys LI and not a companion. On the one hand, it frees me up to pick my party without the need I always had previously to save a spot for my LI, Alistair & Fenris were always in my party which can start to feel a little restrictive but I just couldn't leave either of them behind lol, I don't have that problem in DAI but I do miss my LI not being in the thick of things and on the spot, even without banter it's kind of cool knowing that they are with you, literally, every step of the way.

 

I had a O.o moment in game yesterday, I wonder if anyone else has heard it before. Crestwood quest, when you head into the underground cave on the way to sealing the rift etc, Dorian comments on the Dwavern ruins being fully lit up even after all this time (words to that effect). I could have sworn it was DA:A Nathaniel Howes voice and not Dorians, especially the way he pronounces the last few words, it seriously made me stop and turn around to check if I had a hanger on to my party but no, it was Dorian lol I had a wee look on YT but it's probably too specific a line for a video to have been made of it. I know a few folks here are Nate fans, next time you head for that quest, take Dorian, see if you hear the similarity, perhaps it's just me lol.

 

I think Cullen clocked my Quizzys weird nose, I wish I'd got a SS of it, random as it was, I swear he was talking to it and not her lol

[Monica21]

I do everything "correctly" to get this yet I have never seen it fire... 

 

I'm trying it on this playthrough, mostly because it's my Solasmance pt and I prefer doing Adamant before the Winter Palace on my Cullenmance pts. *fingers crossed*

 

For the record, you don't have to exile or execute Alistair to conscript Loghain into the Wardens -just marry him to Anora. Alistair and her will show up reigning together (if you do Hushed Whispers at all), Loghain will be the Warden at Adamant, and nobody needs to be a drunk hobo for that.

 

And that's my default world state.

 

I've wondered about this a bit because most of the fan art seems to be of LavellanXCullen but I think it's Tishna who pointed out that at the time most SS were of TrevXCullen... I think now-a-days it does seem to trend LavellanXCullen or maybe that just more people who played/ing an elf are posting their pics?

 

I know I feel a minority sometimes, Trevelyan non-mage romance Cullen but each to their own. I have a mage TrevXCullen in the works atm

 

I think that, because Solas is race-gated, whenever I play an elf I'll romance him. My first pt was a TrevxCullen pt and I've also got that weird headspace where I can only see her with him, so if I play an elf and try to romance Cullen it just won't feel right. I know already, as early on as I am into this pt that my Lavellan is Solas's. Cullen and Solas are both very strongly written romances (with some weaknesses, yes) but overall have managed to make me more invested than either Origins or DA2's romances.

 

As far as actual "scary" creepy goes, the empty haunted house in the Emerald Graves (before you activate the zombies) and the temple frozen in time in the Western Approach are the scariest atmospheres in the game for me.

 

I think I may be one of the few people who didn't find the Emerald Graves house creepy at all. It was just, meh, I guess. The frozen temple was better, but my comparison for DA games now is going to be whether it meets or exceeds the creepiness leading up to finding the Broodmother, and neither of those were close.

[Cerulione]

This, this. What disturbs me in Champions is not the atmosphere or sense of dread in it, it's the level of mental violation Envy does to the Inquisitor. The line "I touched so much of you" still gives me full body shivers every time I do this quest, and I've done it enough times to know exactly when it's coming - still makes me twitch every time. When I refer to Champions or Envy as creepy, I'm not using it in the sense of "scary," but rather in the sense of, deeply unsettling given its questionable implications. But, of course, everyone's gonna read it differently.

As far as actual "scary" creepy goes, the empty haunted house in the Emerald Graves (before you activate the zombies) and the temple frozen in time in the Western Approach are the scariest atmospheres in the game for me.

 

Ooooh yeah! Fallow mire too, it's basically a haunted place!!!

 

And that damned Bloody Teddy Bear on a child's skeleton....

[riverbanks]

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[Asperath]

 I think that, because Solas is race-gated, whenever I play an elf I'll romance him. My first pt was a TrevxCullen pt and I've also got that weird headspace where I can only see her with him, so if I play an elf and try to romance Cullen it just won't feel right. I know already, as early on as I am into this pt that my Lavellan is Solas's. Cullen and Solas are both very strongly written romances (with some weaknesses, yes) but overall have managed to make me more invested than either Origins or DA2's romances.

 

I'm the same! I created a few of my Trevelyan's looking the same so that when I want to play a different class romancing Cullen it's always the same Trevelyan (Ardra) but just in AU. So really (for me) he's only meant to be with her (regardless of class) because that all I see him with.

[MelissaGT]

I've wondered about this a bit because most of the fan art seems to be of LavellanXCullen but I think it's Tishna who pointed out that at the time most SS were of TrevXCullen... I think now-a-days it does seem to trend LavellanXCullen or maybe that just more people who played/ing an elf are posting their pics?

 

I know I feel a minority sometimes, Trevelyan non-mage romance Cullen but each to their own. I have a mage TrevXCullen in the works atm

 

My canon is warrior TrevxCullen!!! 

[Ryriena]

The haunted house made a distinct impression onme because I initially missed the switch that activates the zombies, so I s

I missed the switch as well I was like when did I active these Zombies in the halls lol

[Asperath]

My canon is warrior TrevxCullen!!! 

 Mines Trevelyan rogue

For some reason I have trouble getting myself to play a warrior, but I want to try Trev warrior for the whole Templar spec talks... but will be awhile before I try

[MelissaGT]

I'm the same! I created a few of my Trevelyan's looking the same so that when I want to play a different class romancing Cullen it's always the same Trevelyan (Ardra) but just in AU. So really (for me) he's only meant to be with her (regardless of class) because that all I see him with.

 

I'm so glad I don't have that hangup in my head! My girlies all have a little bit of "me" in them (to varying degrees) so I have no problems romancing him with each of them and it never feels weird. It was the same with Alistair and my other fav Bioware romance, Garrus. 

[Asperath]

I missed the switch as well I was like when did I active these Zombies in the halls lol

 

OO I didn't even know there was a switch! Is it what activates the zombies or disables?

Because those zombies freaked me out at first cause I ran around like a loonie and just started watching the walking dead... I do not sleep well now...

[kalasaurus]

I had fun playing as an archer Lavellan who romanced Cullen, surprisingly (to me) more than a mage Trevelyan (which I got bored of sometime after arriving at Skyhold ).  I'm just stuck on playing as elves

 

My Lavellan who got with Cullen:

[MelissaGT]

 Mines Trevelyan rogue

For some reason I have trouble getting myself to play a warrior, but I want to try Trev warrior for the whole Templar spec talks... but will be awhile before I try

 

I enjoy rogue as well. Mage is probably my least favorite. Right now I'm playing concurrently a Dalish rogue archer and Human warrior sword n' board. This warrior will go templar and I will be recording that romance so folks can see it with a lyrium-Cullen...for science. I also have a 2h warrior in the makes but I don't think I can manage more than two playthroughs at once...and I still have Blackwall's Qunari to finish. 

 

I had to scrap my dual-dagger rogue since I got some CC mods and I can't play her with "double brow" syndrome. I will re-make her eventually for sure. Or maybe by then they will have implemented an in-game CC like the mirror or transformation.

[riverbanks]

I think I may be one of the few people who didn't find the Emerald Graves house creepy at all. It was just, meh, I guess. The frozen temple was better, but my comparison for DA games now is going to be whether it meets or exceeds the creepiness leading up to finding the Broodmother, and neither of those were close.

The haunted house made a distinct impression on me because I initially missed the switch that activates the zombies, so I spent like an hour running in circles inside that house, with the lights flickering on and off on their own (which is something that super creeps me out IRL), reading scrambled notes that put together told this awful story, hearing Cole read the girl's feelings off each room, trying to figure out either what to do or how to leave since I was completely lost... it was pretty rad. Once I found the switch and the enemies came out it destroyed the atmosphere and any sense of dread went out the window with the combat breaking out, but until that point it was a damn scary trip.

The frozen temple is unsettling in a different way, the stillness of everything around you feels wrong (the falling debris of the collapsing roof frozen mid-air is what trips me the most), and I keep dreading that the enemies will start moving any second even though I know they won't. It's a weird gut feeling that reality is not quite matching what you see, like walking in place with VR glasses and watching the world go by but still knowing you're not actually moving. It's... weird.

The broodmother descent is a different headspace for me. I originally played this quest in a very roleplay-immersed mood, so the feeling of descending deeper and deeper into the Deep Roads with no way out but ahead made me anxious and exausted and claustrophobic, rather than scared. It drove my Warden to strange places in her mind, specially once the implications of Hespith's poem started falling into place... I love that moment for my Warden, it was one of the final places where her mind snapped, but it wasn't such a mood of horror as much as shell shock.

Scary by scary, nothing beats the damn alienage orphanage to me. Aaagh that little girl's rhyme is never letting me sleep again. ;_;

[Ryriena]

OO I didn't even know there was a switch! Is it what activates the zombies or disables?
Because those zombies freaked me out at first cause I ran around like a loonie and just started watching the walking dead... I do not sleep well now...

Yeah apparently their is a switch which made me confused lol

[Asperath]

I'm so glad I don't have that hangup in my head! My girlies all have a little bit of "me" in them (to varying degrees) so I have no problems romancing him with each of them and it never feels weird. It was the same with Alistair and my other fav Bioware romance, Garrus. 

 

You say it likes it's a bad thing?!?!  

I'm okay with it, it works out well for me since she is my self insert & canon. I guess for me it makes me feel.. freer(?) to RP a range of vastly different characters for my other Quizzys & romance LI's that as a self insert I probably wouldn't go for normally.

[Asperath]

 
The broodmother descent is a different headspace for me. I originally played this quest in a very roleplay-immersed mood, so the feeling of descending deeper and deeper into the Deep Roads with no way out but ahead made me anxious and exausted and claustrophobic, rather than scared. It drove my Warden to strange places in her mind, specially once the implications of Hespith's poem started falling into place... I love that moment for my Warden, it was one of the final places where her mind snapped, but it wasn't such a mood of horror as much as shell shock.
 

 

For me, this was the biggest "OMG! no way!" moment I've every had in DA.

It freaked me out at first esp as I tend to visualise a lot and the imagines in my head weren't pretty.

Also made me wonder how many broodmothers there are out there to create so many darkspawn

[MelissaGT]

You say it likes it's a bad thing?!?!

I'm okay with it, it works out well for me since she is my self insert & canon. I guess for me it makes me feel.. freer(?) to RP a range of vastly different characters for my other Quizzys & romance LI's that as a self insert I probably wouldn't go for normally.

 

It's not a bad thing at all - we all RP differently. 

 

I don't have a full "self-insert," short of one that cosmetically looks like me. The way I RP in my head, I'm able to envision a character as myself (or parts of myself), and see how I would be as that character, even if that character is absolutely nothing like me irl. I get attached to all my girls, since some part of them is me...so I've never had any problems romancing the same person with more than one of my characters. I'm going to pull the "lazy card" and quote a post I made a while back since I summed it up nicely there: 

 

When I play games like this (DA, ME, Skyrim, TOR, etc), I can usually role-play a gamut of characters with different personality types because I play through in my head what I think it would be like if I were that person with that different personality type (party-girl rogue assassin who turns her back on responsibility, or noble "white knight" that always puts others first, etc etc). That's why I'm actually able to get attached to every one of my girls, because I try to play them as if they were me, but in another life, with completely different personality types since I use it as a chance to be someone I could never be irl. Some are similar to my actual irl personality, while others are completely different (I would hope so when I play a crazed face-ripping-off-getting-turned-on-with-Vilkas-werewolf girl in Skyrim). 

 

That's just how I RP - by inserting myself into that specific role. Others create a completely original character with personality and feelings unto themselves. There is no right or wrong way. I only meant I'm glad I don't get hung up on romancing Cullen with more than one character because he's just so fun to romance! That and da' hotness... 

[riverbanks]

For me, this was the biggest "OMG! no way!" moment I've every had in DA.
It freaked me out at first esp as I tend to visualise a lot and the imagines in my head weren't pretty.
Also made me wonder how many broodmothers there are out there to create so many darkspawn

Visualizing the whole scenario is what makes it even worse to me - abstracting all the gameplay aspects from it, in universe they would have been days, maybe weeks walking the Deep Roads, searching for safe passages in dark caves, finding collapsed tunnels and having to double back hours of progress, rationing food so they don't run where the only alternative would be to eat spiders and deepstalkers, making fires for heat and visibility but trying to keep them discreet enough not to get too much attention, hiding in the dark and holding their breaths when a group of creatures too large and too dangerous to face passed near them, starting to lose patience and snap at each other, Alistair and the Warden he whole time feeling the darkspawn all around them, feeling the taint crawling in their blood, hearing the song grow louder and louder the deeper they go, no ending or exit in sight, how many days since we last saw sunlight... and finally, finding the broodmother and learning what they've really been fighting all along. What being a Grey Warden really means. That journey is terrifying. I don't blame any Warden for any decisions they make after that - it's enough to break anyone's spirit and drive them out of their minds.

[Cerulione]

For me, this was the biggest "OMG! no way!" moment I've every had in DA.

It freaked me out at first esp as I tend to visualise a lot and the imagines in my head weren't pretty.

Also made me wonder how many broodmothers there are out there to create so many darkspawn

 

The stuffs of nightmare...

[Asperath]

It's not a bad thing at all - we all RP differently. 

 

I knows I was joking around

[Asperath]

Visualizing the whole scenario is what makes it even worse to me - abstracting all the gameplay aspects from it, in universe they would have been days, maybe weeks walking the Deep Roads, searching for safe passages in dark caves, finding collapsed tunnels and having to double back hours of progress, rationing food so they don't run where the only alternative would be to eat spiders and deepstalkers, making fires for heat and visibility but trying to keep them discreet enough not to get too much attention, hiding in the dark and holding their breaths when a group of creatures too large and too dangerous to face passed near them, starting to lose patience and snap at each other, Alistair and the Warden he whole time feeling the darkspawn all around them, feeling the taint crawling in their blood, hearing the song grow louder and louder the deeper they go, no ending or exit in sight, how many days since we last saw sunlight... and finally, finding the broodmother and learning what they've really been fighting all along. What being a Grey Warden really means. That journey is terrifying. I don't blame any Warden for any decisions they make after that - it's enough to break anyone's spirit and drive them out of their minds.

Well said

[Monica21]

The haunted house made a distinct impression on me because I initially missed the switch that activates the zombies, so I spent like an hour running in circles inside that house, with the lights flickering on and off on their own (which is something that super creeps me out IRL), reading scrambled notes that put together told this awful story, hearing Cole read the girl's feelings off each room, trying to figure out either what to do or how to leave since I was completely lost... it was pretty rad. Once I found the switch and the enemies came out it destroyed the atmosphere and any sense of dread went out the window with the combat breaking out, but until that point it was a damn scary trip.

 

I bet if I'd had Cole with me it would have made a difference. He's creepy but weirdly loveable while being so, but I'll do it with this pt.

[SpiritMuse]

So I'm still playing my Qunari and I'm romancing Sera to see if that will help cure my dislike of her. So far I think she's quite cute when she goes all speechless at my quizzys flirting. And I find she's a lot less annoying when you agree with her on things.

But it finding it surprisingly hard to deal with Cullen because my huge Qunari makes everyone else all little and adorable and it makes me want to pick Cullen up in my huge arms and squish him like a small child would a cat. XD

[LolaLei]

I was watching the Iron Bull repetitive kiss earlier, I cracked up when the IQ rubs his/her arse after Bull's gone because he slapped it so hard, hilarious!