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Tishina

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Hmm...kinda reminds me of when Hawke asks Anders if Justice is an unwilling participant in their little threesome.  All those elves...Cullen has to be creeped out by that, no? :D

Only if you explain that little detail to him; I think I'd be reluctant to in case he decided it was possession. I may go that route with my Dalish mage who's romancing Cullen because I think a Dalish mage has the best chance of making use of that knowledge.



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I think that if ever I see a man who looks like Cullen, and I mean, an exact copy, I will muster up the courage to go up to him and ask if he's the face model for the game. I will then politely ask him for a picture, cause...a bootleg to show you guys won't do

 

Well you could go all secret spy and try to snap a phone pic. 

 

I remember one day there was a landscaping crew working on my neighbors grass and one of the guys was walking around shirtless...and he was sweaty...and had "dat bod." Boy was I such a creeper that day...texting my work partner pictures.  :lol:


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For a non-mage who drinks, I think it would be compelling to consider the religious implications of it. He does take his religion very seriously and if your quizzie does as well...I could imagine some really interesting dialouge where he questions her on this. How would a non-mage Andrastian defend herself on this decision? Would he be more concerned about what could happen to her or more concerned about why she would make a decision like this? Cullen is pretty laid back, but he gets pretty stressed over the quizzie's choice to become a templar. This seems at least as big as that, because now she is bound to some old god. i can't imagine he would take it well.

This would make a very interesting fan-fic...


I think Cullen would be more concerned with what drinking from the Well of Sorrows would do to the IQ, since when you first drink from the Well its not like you are 100% certain you'll be bound to Mythal. I think if you did it purely to gain knowledge of how to destroy Corypheus, he would understand because then it's less of a choice and more of a sacrifice imo, especially if you are playing as a religious IQ.
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#117404
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I couldn't help but show him, I wanted to see how he'd react. I'm trying to be all self deprecating about it and I don't think he realizes I'm on Tumblr and here all day. I know really he's not judging me and wouldn't ever, but he just doesn't really get it. He doesn't get fan-crazy about anything. Up until now he knew I was obsessed with the game but now he's starting to realize it's about a fictional character - ha! But I am obsessed with the entire game, and Cassandra.

 

I do like Cassandra too; she's my bestie. And Dorian. Honestly, I like them all. Sera.. a little less but I am giving her a chance.

 

I am trying to keep this under wraps...unless he catches me looking at those hi rez pics you guys posted earlier ( Maker help me) or playing until he gets up to go to work.  :ph34r: . Starting school soon, so I best enjoy it while I can.

 

Also, you guys have inspired me to perhaps ...try and write some fanfic. I had some ideas last night... :wub:


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I did this on my human rogue PT. I'm having a hard time headcanoning without seeing how Bioware deals with it in a DLC (and I really hope they do), so I'm kind of useless. I think on the inside he's probably freaking out but trying to stay calm and hoping for the best. I did it because the knowledge from the Well needed to stay with the Inquisitor and I explained that to him and he understood, but really didn't like it. I'd also gone in, as the Inquisitor, assuming that Solas would stay and help me understand, but naturally he didn't. (Although, as the player, I already knew by then that he wouldn't be staying.) So, yeah, I honestly don't know.

This really illustrates a point for me - how much happens "off screen"? Are the Inquisitor and Cullen hanging out all of the time and having discussions in bed about all of this stuff?  Or are they being chaste and just dating, where you don't spend every free moment with each other?  I mean according to Bioware's intentions, not fan fic.


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That would definitely be something I could picture Cullen being uncomfortable with, watching his love struggle with.  The Inquisitor could never truly be alone with someone, either, always having those voices.

I agree to an extent.  Cullen is not just a suspicious person by nature.  He KNOWS about magic via his templar training.  He has had bloodmages messing around in his mind.  The question is...would he simply be concerned for her, or would he be angry at her for doing something like that without talking to him? I can't imagine it would be easy for him to trust her completely, knowing she is constantly being whispered at..

 

However, the reason I think he would be more forgiving with a mage girlfriend is because she ALSO knows alot about magic.  And she deals with "infernal whispering of the demons" on a daily basis anyway.  It seems this is just another level...one that might make him uncomfortable...but not necessarily a deal breaker for their relationship.



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Well you could go all secret spy and try to snap a phone pic. 

 

I remember one day there was a landscaping crew working on my neighbors grass and one of the guys was walking around shirtless...and he was sweaty...and had "dat bod." Boy was I such a creeper that day...texting my work partner pictures.  :lol:

 

I have totally and shamelessly done that...some hot redhead in the bus. I was pretending to fix my hair and snapped pics of him instead. Sent them to my sister lol  :ph34r:



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This really illustrates a point for me - how much happens "off screen"? Are the Inquisitor and Cullen hanging out all of the time and having discussions in bed about all of this stuff?  Or are they being chaste and just dating, where you don't spend every free moment with each other?  I mean according to Bioware's intentions, not fan fic.

 

I choose to believe that stuff is happening off screen for the comments other companions make. I don't know if any of you had that conversation with Cullen, but I "asked" him about people talking and he was just like...well, I want to keep my sh!t private, but people will talk. So since there's gossiping, they are most likely seen spending time together IMO.



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This really illustrates a point for me - how much happens "off screen"? Are the Inquisitor and Cullen hanging out all of the time and having discussions in bed about all of this stuff?  Or are they being chaste and just dating, where you don't spend every free moment with each other?  I mean according to Bioware's intentions, not fan fic.

 

Bioware has no say about what happens off screen...that is all ours!!!! And in my Skyhold, they are at it like crazed rabbits... :lol:


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I did this on my human rogue PT. I'm having a hard time headcanoning without seeing how Bioware deals with it in a DLC (and I really hope they do), so I'm kind of useless. I think on the inside he's probably freaking out but trying to stay calm and hoping for the best. I did it because the knowledge from the Well needed to stay with the Inquisitor and I explained that to him and he understood, but really didn't like it. I'd also gone in, as the Inquisitor, assuming that Solas would stay and help me understand, but naturally he didn't. (Although, as the player, I already knew by then that he wouldn't be staying.) So, yeah, I honestly don't know.

 

I'm with you on that one. I really don't know. On one side there's that I will never fully trust Morrigan. But then again, we don't know what being bound to Mythal really means yet.


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Bioware has no say about what happens off screen...that is all ours!!!! And in my Skyhold, they are at it like crazed rabbits... :lol:

 

Right? In those empty rooms lol  :D I found a few abandoned corners in Skyhold


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This really illustrates a point for me - how much happens "off screen"? Are the Inquisitor and Cullen hanging out all of the time and having discussions in bed about all of this stuff?  Or are they being chaste and just dating, where you don't spend every free moment with each other?  I mean according to Bioware's intentions, not fan fic.

 

I think that's left open for interpretation. With all of my characters, there is no "being chaste." In fact, with some of them, my head canon is that the desk scene wasn't their first time. The game never does really specify. 


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Heh, as far as I'm concerned Morrigan can have it.  I'm stuck on the "having so many voices in your head talking over you" part, thanks to Cole o.O


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I did this on my human rogue PT. I'm having a hard time headcanoning without seeing how Bioware deals with it in a DLC (and I really hope they do), so I'm kind of useless. I think on the inside he's probably freaking out but trying to stay calm and hoping for the best. I did it because the knowledge from the Well needed to stay with the Inquisitor and I explained that to him and he understood, but really didn't like it. I'd also gone in, as the Inquisitor, assuming that Solas would stay and help me understand, but naturally he didn't. (Although, as the player, I already knew by then that he wouldn't be staying.) So, yeah, I honestly don't know.

Hey Monica21...did Cullen have actual dialouge aside from the wartable when you did it?  Did he actually say something to your quizzie in the game?



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For a non-mage who drinks, I think it would be compelling to consider the religious implications of it.  He does take his religion very seriously and if your quizzie does as well...I could imagine some really interesting dialouge where he questions her on this.  How would a non-mage Andrastian defend herself on this decision? Would he be more concerned about what could happen to her or more concerned about why she would make a decision like this?  Cullen is pretty laid back, but he gets pretty stressed over the quizzie's choice to become a templar.  This seems at least as big as that, because now she is bound to some old god. i can't imagine he would take it well.

 

I did this on my human rogue PT. I'm having a hard time headcanoning without seeing how Bioware deals with it in a DLC (and I really hope they do), so I'm kind of useless. I think on the inside he's probably freaking out but trying to stay calm and hoping for the best. I did it because the knowledge from the Well needed to stay with the Inquisitor and I explained that to him and he understood, but really didn't like it. I'd also gone in, as the Inquisitor, assuming that Solas would stay and help me understand, but naturally he didn't. (Although, as the player, I already knew by then that he wouldn't be staying.) So, yeah, I honestly don't know.

 
Hmmmm.... this is all very interesting stuff to think about. Yes, my main block is that, as a non-mage, this is all very new and confusing, something she has no experience with and he has in plenty - on top of it being religiously complicated to reconcile all these notions of the Maker guiding her hand with surrendering herself to an elven god. At heart, my IQ made this choice in this playthrough because she didn't trust Morrigan, but even that only goes so far once it's done and she has to live with the consequences and implications of it. I'll have to find my original playthrough and do this over in that one because this one has Kieran alive and I just found out the scene with Flemeth plays out completely different if he exists, so that doesn't help me much with my canon, but I did get a good part where Quizzie is puppeteered by Flemeth and that added a ton of weight to the choice too. It's a really interesting path for the Inquisitor to take, but it comes with a lot of thorns of its own.
 
Well, you've all given me much to think about, and that's what I wanted, so thank you guys! ;)


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I have totally and shamelessly done that...some hot redhead in the bus. I was pretending to fix my hair and snapped pics of him instead. Sent them to my sister lol  :ph34r:

 

My b/f (who also works from home) got all flustered and was joking around about going out and telling that guy off. He ranted about it for a good week and even vented on FB...called him "Mr. America."  :lol:



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Hey Monica21...did Cullen have actual dialouge aside from the wartable when you did it?  Did he actually say something to your quizzie in the game?

 

No, he doesn't say anything to you. It's just that comment at the war table. That was all just my headcanon for explaining the decision.


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So, uh, sorry for interrupting the high school reminiscence, but I have an actual Cullen related question...

 

Did any of you guys drink from the well on a Inquisitor romancing Cullen? He has that one comment at the war table about being concerned for the implications of it, but nothing else. I'm doing an alternate playthrough right now where my IQ drank from the well, and while I'm enjoying the alternate dialogues and cutscenes better than letting Morrigan have it (not ready to commit to either version yet though), I'm a bit stumped on how this reflects on her relationship with Cullen, both Andrastians and Maker-fearing and now she's gone and bound herself to a dead elven maybe not-god. Awkward.

 

So how do you headcanon a romanced Cullen's reaction, or his feelings about her drinking from the well? Is he okay with it, is he curious about the historical knowledge she's gained, is he worried it'll kill her, is he breathing into a paperbag, is he praying extra hard? I have some ideas of where to take this, but they need work. Particularly curious how it went if you played a human non-mage Inquisitor, as that my setup and where I can see the most conflicting feelings about it from both parts, but any feedback helps putting these thoughts together. ;)

I just finished a human mage run where she drank from the well. I kinda head canon that he is completely freaking out at the 'cost' of being bound to an unknown god and what might actually happen. He probably laid into her about being reckless and impulsive without considering the consequences. Actually if you are playing a non mage maybe warrior? It could tie in nicely to the talk you have about choosing templar, where he is well aware of how far you will go to protect others, by taking in the well yourself to prevent the power falling into Morrigan's hands thinking you'll be more responsible with it.


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Hmmmm.... this is all very interesting stuff to think about. Yes, my main block is that, as a non-mage, this is all very new and confusing, something she has no experience with and he has in plenty - on top of it being religiously complicated to be reconcile all these notions of the Maker guiding her hand with surrendering herself to an elven god. At heart, my IQ made this choice in this playthrough because she didn't trust Morrigan, but even that only goes so far once it's done and she has to live with the consequences and implications of it. I'll have to find my original playthrough and do this over in that one because this one has Kieran alive and I just found out the scene with Flemeth plays out completely different if he exists, so that doesn't help me much with my canon, but I did get a good part where Quizzie is puppeteered by Flemeth and that added a ton of weight to the choice too. It's a really interesting path for the Inquisitor to take, but it comes with a lot of thorns of its own.
 
Well, you've all given me much to think about, and that's what I wanted, so thank you guys! ;)

 

Well, when you make the decision, you don't know that Mythal is still living. So that's a brand new conversation when you get back from the Fade. Is your Inquisitor going to regret it even more than Cullen will, aside from anything Bioware might do in a DLC?

 

Is your Kieran an OGB?



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My b/f (who also works from home) got all flustered and was joking around about going out and telling that guy off. He ranted about it for a good week and even vented on FB...called him "Mr. America."  :lol:

 

Oh no lol. That is too funny!!!



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Doubly so for having nothing to say after Abyss too. I mean, the Inq just fell into the Fade, regained their memories, and you have nothing to say, Cullen?  :rolleyes:

 

Oh so he doesn't says anything , i was wondering about this one, because I seem to trigger Perseverance right after the Fade, so my IQ was out of the frying pan and into the fire there.



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I just finished a human mage run where she drank from the well. I kinda head canon that he is completely freaking out at the 'cost' of being bound to an unknown god and what might actually happen. He probably laid into her about being reckless and impulsive without considering the consequences. Actually if you are playing a non mage maybe warrior? It could tie in nicely to the talk you have about choosing templar, where he is well aware of how far you will go to protect others, by taking in the well yourself to prevent the power falling into Morrigan's hands thinking you'll be more responsible with it.

 

Huh, this is very interesting too. My IQ is a rogue, but she's very biased towards the ideal of the Templars (Cullen would say perhaps too much). Probably wishes she could've been a Templar, the way she favors them. One interesting angle to take is to headcanon that the Templar conversation did happen between them (I love that line about wanting to protect people and him saying he can't fault your for feeling as he once did), so he knows she's willing to sacrifice even part of herself to keep that knowledge safe from the shady witch neither of them trust. Good stuff to consider there.


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Oh so he doesn't says anything , i was wondering about this one, because I seem to trigger Perseverance right after the Fade, so my IQ was out of the frying pan and into the fire there.

 

I`m sure "he'll tell you" later  :P . Sorry...couldn't help it


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So, uh, sorry for interrupting the high school reminiscence, but I have an actual Cullen related question...

 

Did any of you guys drink from the well on a Inquisitor romancing Cullen? He has that one comment at the war table about being concerned for the implications of it, but nothing else. I'm doing an alternate playthrough right now where my IQ drank from the well, and while I'm enjoying the alternate dialogues and cutscenes better than letting Morrigan have it (not ready to commit to either version yet though), I'm a bit stumped on how this reflects on her relationship with Cullen, both Andrastians and Maker-fearing and now she's gone and bound herself to a dead elven maybe not-god. Awkward.

 

So how do you headcanon a romanced Cullen's reaction, or his feelings about her drinking from the well? Is he okay with it, is he curious about the historical knowledge she's gained, is he worried it'll kill her, is he breathing into a paperbag, is he praying extra hard? I have some ideas of where to take this, but they need work. Particularly curious how it went if you played a human non-mage Inquisitor, as that my setup and where I can see the most conflicting feelings about it from both parts, but any feedback helps putting these thoughts together. ;)

I haven't drunk from the well myself yet, so I have no well-formed ideas. I would imagine he would roll with it, like if you start taking lyrium, but worry for  you. 



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I think that's left open for interpretation. With all of my characters, there is no "being chaste." In fact, with some of them, my head canon is that the desk scene wasn't their first time. The game never does really specify. 

I'm with you on my IQs. I'm fairly certain they stated that sort of thing was being left to head cannon. As far as I can tell, the only real issue most places in Thedas would be if it involved married people, and even that is pretty fluid as long as noble spouses are producing the proper heirs. Some people, particularly in the Chantry, seem to take offense at cross-racial matches, of course, but formal marriage seems to be mostly concerned with inheritance (that's something they're very inconsistent on, though, because of the CE origin story in DAO).