Someone needs to write this!!! I'll do it. I want to do it. But the thing is I need another Dalish inquisitor now. Since I already so inside my headcannon of my Dalish Mage's having one kid with him (no mage). I'll write this!
Do it!!! DO IT!!! I want all the feels 
So true
I'm so glad that the devs included Cullen as an LI, and did not make the romance dark and tragic.
Seconded! Wait, I can't like your post?
Perhaps they give people a choice if they are aiming to please everyone. I love my pets, but I wouldn`t want a game where I tend after them in there too, you know? lol
There's room for leaving spaces for headcannon, it's the best way to keep everyone happy & upset no one.
Yeah. Strooooong tea. Black tea, Tasty.Like Cullen.
This is a conversation Solas' thread won't be having. Ironically they put Solas blend there too bwahahahahahahah
My man hasn't played this one yet (workaholic) but he has already said he's gonna play evil. He always does. He used to watch me play Mass Effect and encourage me to pick the renegade options.
I agree with Scintilla, would have been cool to get a short montage of helping him through his withdrawals, or even Cassandra helping him if he wanted to hide it from the Inquisitor. There is fanfic out there for that though!
And there I see the problem.
If you, me or anyone for that matter wishes to make a Fanfic about your character and their romance, by all means do so and I applaud you for the hard work put in to doing so.
However when anyone has to make a Fanfic about something that obviously should have been in the game, that to me is a clear read light of the developers being lazy, AKA cutting corners.
Don't get me wrong the Cullen romance is good and offers a lot but as much as it offers there is a lot missing too.
*No conversation about your tumble into the Abyss and getting Cullen's insight.
*No aftermath of what happens to Cullen if you choose to let him take or not take lyrium.
*No clear dialogue between you and Cullen about what exactly happened to him in the Circle Tower, just an over view of what we already knew.
*No change in the kiss scene as the romance progresses. It still makes Cullen look hesitant even after smexy time given off the wrong feel.
*No gift to be given to Cullen.
*No smexy time with him whenever you choose.
*No companions making comments about the romance while you wander in the open wilderness.
I should not need to sit down and write up an eight page or whatever story about what Cullen and my Inquisitor are doing for these types of situations which should have been in the game to begin with.
The writer(s) did a good job, but not good enough. I am not expecting perfection, I am expecting that when these "holes" are seen by the masses, then it clearly should have been seen by the writer(s).
I know people head-cannon. I honestly cannot do that for everything. The only thing I CAN head cannon is saying that the Sparring Ring was a gift from my character to Cullen. But no matter how many times I try to instill that belief in my head it does not make it anymore "real" then I want it to be.
Mostly I am the type to where I have to see it, to believe it happened. Just like those who say Cullen and The Inquisitor had smexy time in the final scene and now its morning. It does not feel that way to me, nor does it seem that happened all. All I see is two people walking through a door, then speaking to each other. Nothing more.
I do have an imagination just as every person on this planet does, but when given a book, a movie or a game, the lines need to connect or I have a hard time connecting them.
Sorry for ranting. It just really irks me when the obvious is overlooked.
Too bad I'm more of a coffee person than tea. Channeling some serious Solas right now.
Does coffee even exist in Thedas? I'd like to think so. Companions getting coffee jitters (like Kaidan in Citadel) would please me greatly.
You know...we could have some nice Thedas inspired coffee drinks. Hmmm...
Interesting, I didn't see it like this. Hmm... So what do you think he'll do?
I'm sorry I must have missed it - do about what now?
Too bad I'm more of a coffee person than tea. Channeling some serious Solas right now.
Does coffee even exist in Thedas? I'd like to think so. Companions getting coffee jitters (like Kaidan in Citadel) would please me greatly.
Well, we know they have cocoa and marshmallows... Bull is a big fan 
No reason why there shouldn't be any coffee
This is a very good point since there are technically still no Circles at the end of DA:I. I think a good indicator of what he would do is in his responses to how he would remake the Circle system. That there still needs to be protections, but not via prisons like the Circles. I guess I'd expect him to seek out whatever proper training was available. If he disagreed with whatever replaces the Circles... I could see him taking matters into his own hands. He's no longer dutybound as he once was.
I'm coming in at the tail end of this conversation, so pardon if this was said already.
I don't think it would be at all necessary for their child to hide it OR go to a Circle. This is the child of the Inquisitor we're talking about here. I think they can acquire some magical trainers solely for their own use.
You can relate it to events actually in the game as well. Fiona references children being among her Redcliffe group during the first conversation with Alexius. Since the Inquisition eventually takes these mages in (if you go this route) we can assume that, although we don't actually see children -- any children anywhere in the entire game -- in Skyhold, that they are there somewhere and are being schooled. So there would be a precedent for letting a mage child be trained in Skyhold.
We can all agree that education and training are important for mages. And just like in the real world, the form of that education varies based on your station in life. Because of the mage rebellion, the Inquisition, and now the new Divine, I can certainly see the noble class being allowed to hire Senior Enchanters to train their mage children. Perhaps even a new rank would be created consisting solely of those who are such trainers.
Someone mentioned Chateau d'Onterre and the events there. But that family tried to hide and suppress their child's magic rather than train it.
And just to head anyone off from mentioning this... Jowan is not the comparison to make. Not only was he planted there specifically to poison Arl Eamon, but he was also a young mage himself, not even out of his apprenticeship, and far from the experienced teacher that any noble should hire to train their mage child.
And there I see the problem.
If you, me or anyone for that matter wishes to make a Fanfic about your character and their romance, by all means do so and I applaud you for the hard work put in to doing so.
However when anyone has to make a Fanfic about something that obviously should have been in the game, that to me is a clear read light of the developers being lazy, AKA cutting corners.
Don't get me wrong the Cullen romance is good and offers a lot but as much as it offers there is a lot missing too.
*No conversation about your tumble into the Abyss and getting Cullen's insight.
*No aftermath of what happens to Cullen if you choose to let him take or not take lyrium.
*No clear dialogue between you and Cullen about what exactly happened to him in the Circle Tower, just an over view of what we already knew.
*No change in the kiss scene as the romance progresses. It still makes Cullen look hesitant even after smexy time given off the wrong feel.
*No gift to be given to Cullen.
*No smexy time with him whenever you choose.
*No companions making comments about the romance while you wander in the open wilderness.
I should not need to sit down and write up an eight page or whatever story about what Cullen and my Inquisitor are doing for these types of situations which should have been in the game to begin with.
The writer(s) did a good job, but not good enough. I am not expecting perfection, I am expecting that when these "holes" are seen by the masses, then it clearly should have been seen by the writer(s).
I know people head-cannon. I honestly cannot do that for everything. The only thing I CAN head cannon is saying that the Sparring Ring was a gift from my character to Cullen. But no matter how many times I try to instill that belief in my head it does not make it anymore "real" then I want it to be.
Mostly I am the type to where I have to see it, to believe it happened. Just like those who say Cullen and The Inquisitor had smexy time in the final scene and now its morning. It does not feel that way to me, nor does it seem that happened all. All I see is two people walking through a door, then speaking to each other. Nothing more.
I do have an imagination just as every person on this planet does, but when given a book, a movie or a game, the lines need to connect or I have a hard time connecting them.
Sorry for ranting. It just really irks me when the obvious is overlooked.
You are right about all of this. I'm just taking what I can get at this point. I would much prefer to see these things play out, even just short scenes, and that goes for all of the romances not just Cullen's. Or any significant story development, I want to see the characters comment on it, LI or not.
Perhaps they give people a choice if they are aiming to please everyone. I love my pets, but I wouldn`t want a game where I tend after them in there too, you know? lol
HA, I'm an avid horse-nut, so I imagine my quizzies spending a lot of time in the stables. In my head, Cullen loves horses too so they have that. And of course all the stray fuzzies the IQ finds on her journeys.
And there I see the problem.
If you, me or anyone for that matter wishes to make a Fanfic about your character and their romance, by all means do so and I applaud you for the hard work put in to doing so.
However when anyone has to make a Fanfic about something that obviously should have been in the game, that to me is a clear read light of the developers being lazy, AKA cutting corners.
Don't get me wrong the Cullen romance is good and offers a lot but as much as it offers there is a lot missing too.
*No conversation about your tumble into the Abyss and getting Cullen's insight.
*No aftermath of what happens to Cullen if you choose to let him take or not take lyrium.
*No clear dialogue between you and Cullen about what exactly happened to him in the Circle Tower, just an over view of what we already knew.
*No change in the kiss scene as the romance progresses. It still makes Cullen look hesitant even after smexy time given off the wrong feel.
*No gift to be given to Cullen.
*No smexy time with him whenever you choose.
*No companions making comments about the romance while you wander in the open wilderness.
I should not need to sit down and write up an eight page or whatever story about what Cullen and my Inquisitor are doing for these types of situations which should have been in the game to begin with.
The writer(s) did a good job, but not good enough. I am not expecting perfection, I am expecting that when these "holes" are seen by the masses, then it clearly should have been seen by the writer(s).
I know people head-cannon. I honestly cannot do that for everything. The only thing I CAN head cannon is saying that the Sparring Ring was a gift from my character to Cullen. But no matter how many times I try to instill that belief in my head it does not make it anymore "real" then I want it to be.
Mostly I am the type to where I have to see it, to believe it happened. Just like those who say Cullen and The Inquisitor had smexy time in the final scene and now its morning. It does not feel that way to me, nor does it seem that happened all. All I see is two people walking through a door, then speaking to each other. Nothing more.
I do have an imagination just as every person on this planet does, but when given a book, a movie or a game, the lines need to connect or I have a hard time connecting them.
Sorry for ranting. It just really irks me when the obvious is overlooked.
I really think it's because of word budget. Cullen got a lot already due to main story, him being advisor. More than other characters. And he already get more scenes than other characters. As much as I want more, I understand the word budget won't allow it... sadly.
And they won't want to be too specific either IMO. In case.
About the aftermath Cullen vs Lyrium, I really hope for a DLC about Magic & the fade & Lyrium.
I'm sorry I must have missed it - do about what now?
that convo "if I get possessed".
And there I see the problem.
If you, me or anyone for that matter wishes to make a Fanfic about your character and their romance, by all means do so and I applaud you for the hard work put in to doing so.
However when anyone has to make a Fanfic about something that obviously should have been in the game, that to me is a clear read light of the developers being lazy, AKA cutting corners.
Don't get me wrong the Cullen romance is good and offers a lot but as much as it offers there is a lot missing too.
*No conversation about your tumble into the Abyss and getting Cullen's insight.
*No aftermath of what happens to Cullen if you choose to let him take or not take lyrium.
*No clear dialogue between you and Cullen about what exactly happened to him in the Circle Tower, just an over view of what we already knew.
*No change in the kiss scene as the romance progresses. It still makes Cullen look hesitant even after smexy time given off the wrong feel.
*No gift to be given to Cullen.
*No smexy time with him whenever you choose.
*No companions making comments about the romance while you wander in the open wilderness.
I should not need to sit down and write up an eight page or whatever story about what Cullen and my Inquisitor are doing for these types of situations which should have been in the game to begin with.
The writer(s) did a good job, but not good enough. I am not expecting perfection, I am expecting that when these "holes" are seen by the masses, then it clearly should have been seen by the writer(s).
I know people head-cannon. I honestly cannot do that for everything. The only thing I CAN head cannon is saying that the Sparring Ring was a gift from my character to Cullen. But no matter how many times I try to instill that belief in my head it does not make it anymore "real" then I want it to be.
Mostly I am the type to where I have to see it, to believe it happened. Just like those who say Cullen and The Inquisitor had smexy time in the final scene and now its morning. It does not feel that way to me, nor does it seem that happened all. All I see is two people walking through a door, then speaking to each other. Nothing more.
I do have an imagination just as every person on this planet does, but when given a book, a movie or a game, the lines need to connect or I have a hard time connecting them.
Sorry for ranting. It just really irks me when the obvious is overlooked.
THIS!
Someone needs to write this!!! I'll do it. I want to do it. But the thing is I need another Dalish inquisitor now. Since I already so inside my headcannon of my Dalish Mage's having one kid with him (no mage). I'll write this!
Do it!!! DO IT!!! I want all the feels
I'll second that, please do it. And if possible, please PM me the link once the story is done/uploaded. I rarely visit this thread and I'll hate to miss such a story if it gets written.
And there I see the problem.
If you, me or anyone for that matter wishes to make a Fanfic about your character and their romance, by all means do so and I applaud you for the hard work put in to doing so.
However when anyone has to make a Fanfic about something that obviously should have been in the game, that to me is a clear read light of the developers being lazy, AKA cutting corners.
Don't get me wrong the Cullen romance is good and offers a lot but as much as it offers there is a lot missing too.
*No conversation about your tumble into the Abyss and getting Cullen's insight.
*No aftermath of what happens to Cullen if you choose to let him take or not take lyrium.
*No clear dialogue between you and Cullen about what exactly happened to him in the Circle Tower, just an over view of what we already knew.
*No change in the kiss scene as the romance progresses. It still makes Cullen look hesitant even after smexy time given off the wrong feel.
*No gift to be given to Cullen.
*No smexy time with him whenever you choose.
*No companions making comments about the romance while you wander in the open wilderness.
I should not need to sit down and write up an eight page or whatever story about what Cullen and my Inquisitor are doing for these types of situations which should have been in the game to begin with.
The writer(s) did a good job, but not good enough. I am not expecting perfection, I am expecting that when these "holes" are seen by the masses, then it clearly should have been seen by the writer(s).
I know people head-cannon. I honestly cannot do that for everything. The only thing I CAN head cannon is saying that the Sparring Ring was a gift from my character to Cullen. But no matter how many times I try to instill that belief in my head it does not make it anymore "real" then I want it to be.
Mostly I am the type to where I have to see it, to believe it happened. Just like those who say Cullen and The Inquisitor had smexy time in the final scene and now its morning. It does not feel that way to me, nor does it seem that happened all. All I see is two people walking through a door, then speaking to each other. Nothing more.
I do have an imagination just as every person on this planet does, but when given a book, a movie or a game, the lines need to connect or I have a hard time connecting them.
Sorry for ranting. It just really irks me when the obvious is overlooked.
I completely agree with you. It didn't sound like a rant to me; your points are very valid and yes. There are holes in the story. Less astrariums and shards, more story would have definetely appreciaed.
I'm coming in at the tail end of this conversation, so pardon if this was said already.
I don't think it would be at all necessary for their child to hide it OR go to a Circle. This is the child of the Inquisitor we're talking about here. I think they can acquire some magical trainers solely for their own use.
You can relate it to events actually in the game as well. Fiona references children being among her Redcliffe group during the first conversation with Alexius. Since the Inquisition eventually takes these mages in (if you go this route) we can assume that, although we don't actually see children -- any children anywhere in the entire game -- in Skyhold, that they are there somewhere and are being schooled. So there would be a precedent for letting a mage child be trained in Skyhold.
We can all agree that education and training are important for mages. And just like in the real world, the form of that education varies based on your station in life. Because of the mage rebellion, the Inquisition, and now the new Divine, I can certainly see the noble class being allowed to hire Senior Enchanters to train their mage children. Perhaps even a new rank would be created consisting solely of those who are such trainers.
Someone mentioned Chateau d'Onterre and the events there. But that family tried to hide and suppress their child's magic rather than train it.
And just to head anyone off from mentioning this... Jowan is not the comparison to make. Not only was he planted there specifically to poison Arl Eamon, but he was also a young mage himself, not even out of his apprenticeship, and far from the experienced teacher that any noble should hire to train their mage child.
I'm rooting for a proper Hogwart-type school. Really.
Oh Cerlione - I think he wouldn't be able to cut her down. Maybe he would have someone else do it?
I'm rooting for a proper Hogwart-type school. Really.
Now I want to read a fic with Dagna as a teacher at a Hogwarts type school.
Also my 2c on the "what if I was possessed?" convo: I think he'd do it. I'd hope he would.
Also:
No conversations with any LI's if you drink from the well except for Solas (and you get that even without romancing him), but especially magic-leery Cullen - huge oversight IMO.
No conversations with anyone at the camp after they all thought you'd sacrificed yourself to save them except Solas. I'll take a shorter convo with Mother Giselle instead.
Perhaps they give people a choice if they are aiming to please everyone. I love my pets, but I wouldn`t want a game where I tend after them in there too, you know? lol
They'd never put resources into something like that and make it optional, so I really think that's something that will be left to headcanon. Otherwise, we'll end up with something scary like Aerie's backpack baby in BG2. Nopenopenope.
Too bad I'm more of a coffee person than tea. Channeling some serious Solas right now.
Does coffee even exist in Thedas? I'd like to think so. Companions getting coffee jitters (like Kaidan in Citadel) would please me greatly.
Funny, this is a conversation I've been having with myself recently, as I plan to write something inspired by this loverly pic, which has totally enchanted me:
As the artist asks:
maedhronwe:
"is coffee even a thing in thedas"
Also:
No conversations with any LI's if you drink from the well except for Solas (and you get that even without romancing him), but especially magic-leery Cullen - huge oversight IMO.
No conversations with anyone at the camp after they all thought you'd sacrificed yourself to save them except Solas. I'll take a shorter convo with Mother Giselle instead.
And if you take Imshael's deal you'd think Cullen of all people would've had a **** fit about it, but all you get is some war table banter about how it's a shame on the Inquisition. That's what's missing from this game, cause and effect. In DA2, if you took the deal with the demon Anders told me off, had a nasty little dig about how I should date Merrill if we're both into demons and then dumps your arse, in DA:O if you done something a companion didn't like they'd call you out on it. In DAI? Nothing.
No conversations with anyone at the camp after they all thought you'd sacrificed yourself to save them except Solas. I'll take a shorter convo with Mother Giselle instead.
And if you take Imshael's deal you'd think Cullen of all people would've had a **** fit about it, but all you get is some war table banter about how it's a shame on the Inquisition. That's what's missing from this game, cause and effect. In DA2, if you took the deal with the demon Anders told me off, had a nasty little dig about how I should date Merrill if we're both into demons and then dumps your arse, in DA:O if you done something a companion didn't like they'd call you out on it. In DAI? Nothing.
Esp since they gave the impression, a priori, that your companions would be *hugely* reactive to your choices. Even if they weren't with you when you did it.
And if you take Imshael's deal you'd think Cullen of all people would've had a **** fit about it, but all you get is some war table banter about how it's a shame on the Inquisition. That's what's missing from this game, cause and effect. In DA2, if you took the deal with the demon Anders told me off, had a nasty little dig about how I should date Merrill if we're both into demons and then dumps your arse, in DA:O if you done something a companion didn't like they'd call you out on it. In DAI? Nothing.
I will need to remember this for next time I play DA2...how does Fenris react?
*edit* Cullen for ToP!
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And if you take Imshael's deal you'd think Cullen of all people would've had a **** fit about it, but all you get is some war table banter about how it's a shame on the Inquisition. That's what's missing from this game, cause and effect. In DA2, if you took the deal with the demon Anders told me off, had a nasty little dig about how I should date Merrill if we're both into demons and then dumps your arse, in DA:O if you done something a companion didn't like they'd call you out on it. In DAI? Nothing.
Yes! And then my slightly kinky side would do a playthrough doing things Cullen hated so he could yell at me . Of course we could make up. The other difference is that there isn't any approval ratings with advisors.
And if you take Imshael's deal you'd think Cullen of all people would've had a **** fit about it, but all you get is some war table banter about how it's a shame on the Inquisition. That's what's missing from this game, cause and effect. In DA2, if you took the deal with the demon Anders told me off, had a nasty little dig about how I should date Merrill if we're both into demons and then dumps your arse, in DA:O if you done something a companion didn't like they'd call you out on it. In DAI? Nothing.
yeah, I definitely think this should have led to a break up scene with Cullen. I just can't see him staying with someone who'd make a deal with demons, even if I really wanted all those virgins.
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