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[Zarro-Morningstar]

Thanks Zarro.  Something else just occurred to me - does Mother Giselle ever change what she says about the Hinterlands refugees, like she does with Crestwood and Emprise du Lion if you help the people there? Even when I did practically ever side quest in Hinterlands, she would still say "the people are desperate".

That one I don't know. I was wondering about that a few weeks ago...I am going to say no, but I'm not sure. From personal experience she has never said something new about the refugees in the Hinterlands.

[riverbanks]

What's worrying me is that the flirt for the vows didn't even show up in the wheel at all. I really don't want to get all the way to Skyhold and then realize I messed up (what is wrong with me that I can't romance anyone else - UGH).

 

You need to take at least one flirt before the vows flirt will open up (imagine how awkward it would be for him for your first flirt to be asking if he's chaste, lol) but that doesn't mean you're locked out of the relationship. As Zarro said, you can go through all of Haven without flirting with Cullen even once (or even talking to him at all) and still romance him at Skyhold just the same. The Haven flirts are actually there just for flavor - the flirts that activate his romance for real are the ones about surviving Haven, the chess game one, and the one asking him about having someone in Kirkwall. Taking either of these activates your romance status. (conversely, missing all of these does lock you out of starting the relationship)

 

If you still want to take that vows flirt, you can save that conversation for later, after your activated the first flirt in Skyhold. The dialogue tree about Templar life doesn't disappear after you move past Act 1.

[Narcia_]

As for the thaig in DA2, that Thaig precedes the First Blight, which, in recorded history, means before the Black City was Breached. The Dwarves also claim that the thaig precedes the Memories, the dwarven recorded history. My firm belief is that the Taint existed in Thedas before the first Breach, and the elves sealed away as much of it as they could within an ever present, fixed Fade construct - the Golden City. That said, I think they just took all the raw Taint within the world and shifted it into the Fade - hence all the red lyrium we see hanging around when we visit the Fade. I think the bits of infected lyrium were simply not all destroyed before the Great Sealing. Hence, we have an enormous dormant thaig filled with red lyrium.

 

Really interesting. Thanks for sharing that theory. I'm definitely hoping for more information about the golden city and/or what the magisters actually found when they breached the Fade the first time. "We found darkness and we decided to harness it" doesn't cut it as an explanation. lol Alternately, a DLC explaining what the Elves were up to and if they factor into the blight would be good too.

 

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing, though I have a feeling they won't say anything about it, is an actual consequence to the perseverance quest. A "happy ending no matter what" is nice for Cullen, but it's far less impactful than some of the origins choices.

[Thane4Ever]

How far do you think Cullen would go in a fight with the IQ? Imagine that he is extremely fed up and exasperated with a very important situation and knows that she has been lying to him. I could see him going as far as yelling or to an extent like that, but what do you guys think?

*cracks knuckles* Weeelll I think he would shout and maybe if it was extremely heated pound the desk.  I can see them being very passionate and hard-headed and their fights getting heated.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

*cracks knuckles* Weeelll I think he would shout and maybe if it was extremely heated pound the desk.  I can see them being very passionate and hard-headed and their fights getting heated.

*reads post then looks back at story* Okay, I'm good!

[riverbanks]

How far do you think Cullen would go in a fight with the IQ? Imagine that he is extremely fed up and exasperated with a very important situation and knows that she has been lying to him. I could see him going as far as yelling or to an extent like that, but what do you guys think?

 

Are you asking if things would get physical? I can't see Cullen ever doing that, no matter how bad of an argument it was.

 

Other than that, I can see Cullen having difficulty articulating all the conflicting emotions and thoughts that are going through his mind in the middle of a heated argument, and growing increasingly frustrated with himself for that, rather than with the Inquisitor and whatever case she may be making for herself. Then, at some point, he would hit a nag of exhasperation that would either send him storming out to clear his head and take a moment to rearrange his thoughts before either of them says something they can't take back, or would just make him deflate and lose all the energy to carry on arguing, turning instead to a very low and level voice in an attempt to turn the argument into a more civilized conversation again.

 

Of course, that also depends on each Inquisitor's personality. What she would do in an argument would dictate much of the tone of it.

[Thane4Ever]

*reads post then looks back at story* Okay, I'm good!

I'd actually picture him getting REALLY angry and yelling - but only because he loves her so much. Not that I've thought about it extensively or anything. 

 

Definitely nothing physical, ever.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Are you asking if things would get physical? I can't see Cullen ever doing that, no matter how bad of an argument it was.

 

Other than that, I can see Cullen having difficulty articulating all the conflicting emotions and thoughts that are going through his mind in the middle of a heated argument, and growing increasingly frustrated with himself for that, rather than the Inquisitor and whatever case she may be making for herself. Then, at some point, he would hit a nag of exhasperation that would either send him storming out to clear his head and take a moment to rearrange his head before either of them says something they can't take back, or would just make him deflate and lose all the energy carry on arguing, turning instead to a very low and level voice in an attempt to turn the argument into a more civilized conversation again.

 

Of course, that also depends on each Inquisitor's personality. What she would do in an argument would dictate much of the tone of it.

That...was not what I was asking, but I suppose it could be interpreted that way. I was just asking how far you think a horrible/intense fight would go between Cullen and the IQ. I also could never see Cullen get physical with the IQ either, no matter how bad the situation.

 

Well, let's say that an IQ is quite fiery and somewhat sassy as well...so passionate would be the proper term.

[MelissaGT]

How far do you think Cullen would go in a fight with the IQ? Imagine that he is extremely fed up and exasperated with a very important situation and knows that she has been lying to him. I could see him going as far as yelling or to an extent like that, but what do you guys think?

 

 

That...was not what I was asking, but I suppose it could be interpreted that way. I was just asking how far you think a horrible/intense fight would go between Cullen and the IQ. I also could never see Cullen get physical with the IQ either, no matter how bad the situation.

 

Well, let's say that an IQ is quite fiery and somewhat sassy as well...so passionate would be the proper term.

 

I think I'm confused by the question? I really loved ninetozero's answer.

 

Are they in a relationship or is it business-professional? Knowing the context of what the fight is about would also help because I think that would change Cullen's (and the IQ's) reaction. Like, is she lying about something to do with the Inquisition? Is she lying about taking lyrium? Is she lying about being preggers? Is she lying about sleeping around? Is she a mage and is lying about using blood magic? Lots of scenarios - all garner very different responses. 

[Monica21]

If you still want to take that vows flirt, you can save that conversation for later, after your activated the first flirt in Skyhold. The dialogue tree about Templar life doesn't disappear after you move past Act 1.

 

Can you wait until after the first kiss to take the vows flirt?

[Zarro-Morningstar]

I think I'm confused by the question? I really loved ninetozero's answer.

 

Are they in a relationship or is it business-professional? Knowing the context of what the fight is about would also help because I think that would change Cullen's (and the IQ's) reaction. Like, is she lying about something to do with the Inquisition? Is she lying about taking lyrium? Is she lying about being preggers? Is she lying about sleeping around? Lots of scenarios - all garner very different responses. 

They are in a relationship. Lol, I am trying to be really vague...for reasons...and the situation is also a secret, but it is EXTREMELY intense and one of the things you listed. That is all I will say. Sorry!  

[MelissaGT]

They are in a relationship. Lol, I am trying to be really vague...for reasons...and the situation is also a secret, but it is EXTREMELY intense and one of the things you listed. That is all I will say. Sorry!  

 

At that point I think it's hard to say how he would react since it would be different for each situation. I will say that I think he would have a stronger reaction if it's something regarding the IQ's health and safety. Professionally, I don't think he would be as apt to question her. 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

At that point I think it's hard to say how he would react since it would be different for each situation. I will say that I think he would have a stronger reaction if it's something regarding the IQ's health and safety. Professionally, I don't think he would be as apt to question her. 

Okay, thank you for your insight! As well to everyone else and whoever else responds to my question. It is a discussion that I don't think we have had on here, and it is refreshing to see something new...at least for me.

[riverbanks]

Can you wait until after the first kiss to take the vows flirt?

 

I think so, but not sure on that one. There was someone here in the thread testing how far along the vows flirt would hold (to see if it could still be taken after them sexy times), and I think the conclusion was that they had the flirt available right up until completing either Abyss or Wicked and triggering the sex scene (past which, of course, the question finally disappeared ).

[Thane4Ever]

Can you wait until after the first kiss to take the vows flirt?

I think so but someone correct me if not - then he says something like "obviously not".

[MelissaGT]

Okay, thank you for your insight! As well to everyone else and whoever else responds to my question. It is a discussion that I don't think we have had on here, and it is refreshing to see something new...at least for me.

 

See, depending on what is the cause of the argument, the perv in me envisions a saucy fight that invariably ends up as a sparring session with my naughty rogue climbing him like a tree...and ending it with her daggers at his throat...which leads to...um...stuff...   

[MelissaGT]

I think so, but not sure on that one. There was someone here in the thread testing how far along the vows flirt would hold (to see if it could still be taken after them sexy times), and I think the conclusion was that they had the flirt available right up until completing either Abyss or Wicked and triggering the sex scene (past which, of course, the question finally disappeared ).

 

I can confirm that yes you can still ask that after the first kiss. I did it last night...then I reloaded because it didn't make sense in my head. He just pushed him up against a wall and kissed the ever-loving bejeezus out of her - I would hope he didn't take any vows against...stuff...at that point.   First she asked him if there was anybody "special." Then later she progressed to the vows. Finally she initiated the romance. That seemed like a more "natural" progression to me. 

[Thane4Ever]

I can confirm that yes you can still ask that after the first kiss. I did it last night...then I reloaded because it didn't make sense in my head. He just pushed him up against a wall and kissed the ever-loving bejeezus out of her - I would hope he didn't take any vows against...stuff...at that point.   First she asked him if there was anybody "special." Then later she progressed to the vows. Finally she initiated the romance. That seemed like a more "natural" progression to me. 

So what is his response exactly? She says did you take any vows of celibacy and he says...

 

Edit: I find this time around that while a bit forward, it does make some sense to mention Templar vows while also asking him other questions about Templars and their training early on, before deciding who to side with. It would have crossed my mind standing in front of such a handsome dude, but my mind is in the gutter.  

[Zarro-Morningstar]

See, depending on what is the cause of the argument, the perv in me envisions a saucy fight that invariably ends up as a sparring session with my naughty rogue climbing him like a tree...and ending it with her daggers at his throat...which leads to...um...stuff...   

If I wasn't writing the kind of story that I am...I could see my mage doing the same thing but with electricity, fire, and ice. After all we do know that magic is just used for healing or harming others...

[MelissaGT]

So what is his response exactly? She says did you take any vows of celibacy and he says...

 

Edit: I find this time around that while a bit forward, it does make some sense to mention Templar vows while also asking him other questions about Templars and their training early on, before deciding who to side with. It would have crossed my mind standing in front of such a handsome dude, but my mind is in the gutter.  

 

Even after the kiss, his response does't change in the least...another reason why it didn't seem to fit (to me). By that point I would imagine him having some nice snarky response that make waiting to ask it worth it. 

 

I think it fits perfectly to ask that as the final step before activating the kiss scene.

[Cerulione]

How far do you think Cullen would go in a fight with the IQ, that he is romantically involved with? Imagine that he is extremely fed up and exasperated with a very important situation and knows that she has been lying to him. I could see him going as far as yelling or to an extent like that, but what do you guys think?

 

My perception of Cullen's character is that he's someone who's not very good at communicating his emotions, so he might get bottled up to a certain point and then get very frustatred quite easily. I can picture him hitting the wall or yelling, but not getting physical to the quizzy. It just doesn't seems like his character to hit her.

[Thane4Ever]

never mind see below

[Sephirona]

How far do you think Cullen would go in a fight with the IQ, that he is romantically involved with? Imagine that he is extremely fed up and exasperated with a very important situation and knows that she has been lying to him. I could see him going as far as yelling or to an extent like that, but what do you guys think?

 

I definitely agree with nine, I can't see him ever raising his hand against her. And I think he would definitely speak up eventually if it turns out she'd lied about something within their personal relationship. But part of me also thinks it would take him a while to, and even after confronting her I feel like he'd be as disappointed in himself as he is in her because he might blame himself, too - was he not attentive enough? Did she lie because she felt like she couldn't trust him because of something he did? Assuming this is something really big, and not just some sort of little white lie to protect his feelings. I can see him raising his voice, certainly, but somehow I have a hard time imagining him punching the wall/desk the way he did during Perseverance. He did that because he was angry/frustrated at himself. I feel like he's much harsher when it comes to beating himself up on the inside, and I can't really see him expressing it the same way when his anger involves the Quizzy.

 

It took him a while to face Meredith, and despite his stern demeanor at the War Table it seems like he's the type to internalize self-blame and to avoid conflict in interpersonal relationships. And although I haven't played a Templar-side run, that illusion of him taking the blame for Envy's diabolical rampage also seems to point towards the same thing. Cullen's come a long way and he's very willful and strong, but there's also this vulnerability about him that makes my heart ache. Which is why I'd always want to be gentle and honest with him and always want to pROTECT HIM FOREVER.

 

 

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Anyways, more WIP stuff;; Remember that painting I was supposed to finish 2+ months ago? sob

 

 

Since I've been able to practice lots of Cullen the past few weeks I'm going to go back to this one and give it my all yayy

 

Edit: Oh my god I was ninjaed with my own post LOL, HI THANE!!!!

[Thane4Ever]

Ack sorry Sephirona I got REALLY excited - I'll edit it.

[Sephirona]

Ack sorry Sephirona I got REALLY excited - I'll edit it.

No no it's okay! I cracked up so hard LOL

Thanks for liking it enough to share even though it's still so chickenscratchy, haha.

 

I need to go flycam myself some Inquisition soldier outfits to reference ahhhhh