Morning guys!!! Sooooooo deep thought...
Does Cullen's belt hold up his pants???
I'm gonna try my hand at a mildly steamy scene and can't figure out how to deconstruct his crazy outfit! Clasps or buttons? Sorry, I'm sure this question has come up a kajillion times but it all must come off!!
Edit: oh and I know I can make it whatever the hell I want, buti like realism
Just forget all that and RIP it all off!
Seriously though I would have thought he had a line of buttons holding them up, the belt is probably just for extra security.
Edit: I am just at the scene where I meet him for the first time in the war room....his tunic thingy is tucked under his belt, I am guessing that it's there to hold that in place probably nothing more.
I'm now thinking that Magequisitor can make that armor go poof really fast lol my magequisitors mind is going to the not so clean thoughts of the numerous ways to remove it
Yeah, it's weird, like they don't really know what is causing the banter bugs. But then... I'm sure there are a number of variables affecting the banter. My brain starts to wonder... Did I just exhaust the things they have to say? Does that even happen anymore? I sorta expect that eventually everyone runs out of words, but then Varric and Dorian bet on my success last playthrough at least 10 or 20 times, so maybe they repeat themselves if they run out. Dunno.
So still have no idea if I should patch or wait til next playthrough... which at this rate will happen never.
Danaduchy's making some Banter Compilation. Guess that it's all around 3h total no? So in 100h gameplay, it must be well spread. That's not much to boot & IIRC there's always places when Companions got to talk much more (bugs??) like the Storm Coast everyone's very chatty, in Western Approach everyone's silent. That's in my game at least.
IIRC the dev said that the patch makes banter when you're passing certain area to trigger more banter, before it's more random & time based.
Danaduchy's making some Banter Compilation. Guess that it's all around 3h total no? So in 100h gameplay, it must be well spread. That's not much to boot & IIRC there's always places when Companions got to talk much more (bugs??) like the Storm Coast everyone's very chatty, in Western Approach everyone's silent. That's in my game at least.
IIRC the dev said that the patch makes banter when you're passing certain area to trigger more banter, before it's more random & time based.
Good to know. So many the trigger points in the Western Approach are just buggy. sigh. Who knows. I get lots of banter in other places. I just don't want the patch making things worse instead of better.
Morning guys!!! Sooooooo deep thought...
Does Cullen's belt hold up his pants???
I'm gonna try my hand at a mildly steamy scene and can't figure out how to deconstruct his crazy outfit! Clasps or buttons? Sorry, I'm sure this question has come up a kajillion times but it all must come off!!
Edit: oh and I know I can make it whatever the hell I want, buti like realism
IMO, sure, his belt probably does hold up his pants, even if the pants may not strictly require it. Like most pants and belts IRL, I reckon. There are some deconstructions of his outfit around tumblr. Gala put together a front/back reference that in the OP. I think the bottom line is... no one knows how the vest thing really works or what the golden ribbon thing is/does. So you can do what you want with those.
Just forget all that and RIP it all off!
Seriously though I would have thought he had a line of buttons holding them up, the belt is probably just for extra security.
Interesting. I did not realize how often Cullen does this. Hmm, I wonder now if it's more then just an intimate jester. Like Cullen does this as a means to make sure she is real- that this not some dream he is going to wake up from and it will no longer be there.
I never thought of this! Genius! I really wonder if that's why they put that in the game...ie, if it was intentional. Always reassuring himself that what is happening is real. That makes it so much more in depth and poignant!
I read a fanfic where someone had the quizzy walk into the war room and everyone was arguing (Josie, Leliana, and Cullen). She notices Cullen is standing off on his own, so she immediately goes over and touches him as she talks, to bring him back to the group. She mediates and gets everyone to agree. Then, later, Cassandra asks her about it and she says something about how she noticed that once Cullen physically isolated himself form others, he was harder to convince. That touching him makes him listen. (It was beautifully written, but I can't remember the fic...did someone on here write that one or know the fic I am talking about?)
Anyway, it stuck with me because the person who wrote that one also noticed how tactile he is, and put a cool spin on that.
I'm going to gush some more about the subtle bits of characterization they created for Cullen. Hope no one minds.
Someone in this thread pointed out that he seems to be a very tactile person, which I hadn't noticed until they mentioned it, but after watching more closely I can definitely see that. One thing I noticed in particular is how much he loves to touch her face, as if that gesture feels especially intimate or reassuring to him - it happens in the first kiss scene, the recurring one, in what I call the "proposal" scene, again after he wakes up the next morning, and finally during the prayer scene (depending on dialogue choice). Which makes it even more special when the PC gets a chance to reciprocate after he wakes up from his nightmare. Such wonderful little nuances
I think that was meeEEEeeeee hi *v*
And yes! It really struck me how he'd be so calmed at the Quizzy's touches. Besides the hand on his chest during Perseverance, there was also that one right after on the battlements where he's worried you think less of him after his episode but then looks so happy after your Quizzy reaches out to pat his arm (which some might think was gruff or aggressive, haha! I thought it was cute, though, and I don't tend to touch random people unless making heartfelt statements so it resonated with me).
Also, his fondness for little headbumps of affection is adorable. His hand goes up to rub his forehead in frustration so often that I imagine it's a welcome change to feel the warmth of Quizzy's forehead there instead, LOL! Love that contrast between his exasperated/discontent touches and his touches of love. Under that reserved exterior beats a passionate heart, and it shows both in the way he punches the bookcase to release his anger and in the way he sweeps the things off his desk to get ready for sexy time. He's a warrior, I imagine he's very physically in-tune with the world that way.
Sort of related - what the Quizzy says about the lyrium box when he throws it ("I'm sure the box had it coming") actually somewhat reflects his relationship with many found objects. The bookshelf, the things on his desk, the daggers he chucks at the dummies. Woe to you if you are an inanimate object within Cullen's grasp. 
So I was reading this article on a gamer/geek forum about female romance options and many of them were talking about how females have no decent romance options. That Bull's is to comical, Sera only works if you want F/F and then Blackwall is kind of ok if your ok with the whole I lied to you and now you can have me back and he is the only decent human romance for a female. So its like ok, what about Cullen? They said Cullen is the worse female romance option ever.That he is to whinny about the lyrium thing, he is an idiot with flirting, is all Maker this Maker that (especially they dished the Andraste statue prayer at the end) and so on. I was thinking, wow at this point I am just not going to get on there anymore...I mean anti-Cullen? Who shouldn't boycott those bas***ds!
LOL. I just wanted to post that *g*. As always, I'm too slow .
I think that was meeEEEeeeee hi *v*
And yes! It really struck me how he'd be so calmed at the Quizzy's touches. Besides the hand on his chest during Perseverance, there was also that one right after on the battlements where he's worried you think less of him after his episode but then looks so happy after your Quizzy reaches out to pat his arm (which some might think was gruff or aggressive, haha! I thought it was cute, though, and I don't tend to touch random people unless making heartfelt statements so it resonated with me).
Also, his fondness for little headbumps of affection is adorable. His hand goes up to rub his forehead in frustration so often that I imagine it's a welcome change to feel the warmth of Quizzy's forehead there instead, LOL! Love that contrast between his exasperated/discontent touches and his touches of love. Under that reserved exterior beats a passionate heart, and it shows both in the way he punches the bookcase to release his anger and in the way he sweeps the things off his desk to get ready for sexy time. He's a warrior, I imagine he's very physically in-tune with the world that way.
Sort of related - what the Quizzy says about the lyrium box when he throws it ("I'm sure the box had it coming") actually somewhat reflects his relationship with many found objects. The bookshelf, the things on his desk, the daggers he chucks at the dummies. Woe to you if you are an inanimate object within Cullen's grasp.
I noticed the "interesting" placement of the daggers the other day. Can someone say "anger management?" 
So I was reading this article on a gamer/geek forum about female romance options and many of them were talking about how females have no decent romance options. That Bull's is to comical, Sera only works if you want F/F and then Blackwall is kind of ok if your ok with the whole I lied to you and now you can have me back and he is the only decent human romance for a female. So its like ok, what about Cullen? They said Cullen is the worse female romance option ever.That he is to whinny about the lyrium thing, he is an idiot with flirting, is all Maker this Maker that (especially they dished the Andraste statue prayer at the end) and so on. I was thinking, wow at this point I am just not going to get on there anymore...I mean anti-Cullen? Who shouldn't boycott those bas***ds!
I think EVERY male romance has been called "whiny" at this point. Not because they are but because "whiny" seems to be a catch-all phrase to describe a dislike of them. Garrus was whiny about Sidonis, Alistair was whiny about Duncan, Kaidan was whiny about his headaches etc. They mentioned them sure (beacuse it would be really odd if they didn't, especially if they had a loyalty mission about it *facepalm*) and that was the same thing as whining apparently.
I think one thing a lot of people seem to forget about with any video game romance is that they have to establish the character, show their inner desires, establish their strengths and weakness, have an interesting enough personality to make you want to talk to the and part of how they bring you to want to have the character is a degree of feeling bad for them (i.e Garrus ME2 he has no one left, no one who cares about him and you feel so bad you want to give him someone to care for) its not whinny so much as a lot of reasoning for you to want to be with them is conveyed in a very short about of dialog. Its an added little fun perk to the game, but it is not a mainline story. If it wasn't a game, you would have time to learn about the fact Cullen is going through lyrium withdrawal and Kaidan has a hard time being a biotic and so forth. But you have to learn all that in maybe 4 conversations and it is going to sound like this is all the whine about.
Very few games have any kind of serious relationships in them. Most are like Skyrim of pick person A or B, get married instantly and thats it. BioWare is rare to put as much time into a romance as they do and give you multiple choices that are somewhat decent. When you think about having 3 or 4 choices and all the various personalities, how you shape your characters personality too and all, its a decent amount of time going into it. Personally I think they do an amazing job with adding in the romance option to begin with.
So I was reading this article on a gamer/geek forum about female romance options and many of them were talking about how females have no decent romance options. That Bull's is to comical, Sera only works if you want F/F and then Blackwall is kind of ok if your ok with the whole I lied to you and now you can have me back and he is the only decent human romance for a female. So its like ok, what about Cullen? They said Cullen is the worse female romance option ever.That he is to whinny about the lyrium thing, he is an idiot with flirting, is all Maker this Maker that (especially they dished the Andraste statue prayer at the end) and so on. I was thinking, wow at this point I am just not going to get on there anymore...I mean anti-Cullen? Who shouldn't boycott those bas***ds!
OMG seriously? When your options are Bull, Cullen, Solas, and Blackwall, and you still feel you've been shafted, you are what is called "HARD TO PLEASE" oh, and also, no one likes you lol
OMG seriously? When your options are Bull, Cullen, Solas, and Blackwall, and you still feel you've been shafted, you are what is called "HARD TO PLEASE" oh, and also, no one likes you lol
Seriously...makes me wonder what people want. My fav Bioware romances were Cullen, Garrus, Alistair and Malavai Quinn. I didn't get "whiny" out of any of them. What do they want, a pretty face that doesn't have anything to say? Some people always need something to complain about no matter what.
Yeah, I'm taken aback by this, too, and I ask myself the same question. What kind of character would not be "whiney" for such a crowd? Probably someone who doesn't struggle with anything and never shows any emotion. An android maybe who looks perfectly human, is fully functional but otherwise chilly and not really a three-dimensional character to begin with. No, thanks.
Yeah, I'm taken aback by this, too, and I ask myself the same question. What kind of character would not be "whiney" for such a crowd? Probably someone who doesn't struggle with anything and never shows any emotion. An android maybe who looks perfectly human, is fully functional but otherwise chilly and not really a three-dimensional character to begin with. No, thanks.
So I was reading this article on a gamer/geek forum about female romance options and many of them were talking about how females have no decent romance options. That Bull's is to comical, Sera only works if you want F/F and then Blackwall is kind of ok if your ok with the whole I lied to you and now you can have me back and he is the only decent human romance for a female. So its like ok, what about Cullen? They said Cullen is the worse female romance option ever.That he is to whinny about the lyrium thing, he is an idiot with flirting, is all Maker this Maker that (especially they dished the Andraste statue prayer at the end) and so on. I was thinking, wow at this point I am just not going to get on there anymore...I mean anti-Cullen? Who shouldn't boycott those bas***ds!
Huh, I do find this surprising since it seems like the whole world is raining Cullen love these days. While I completely don't understand those complaints about him, it makes the world seem right again that there's still unreasoning Cullen hate out there. 
So I was reading this article on a gamer/geek forum about female romance options and many of them were talking about how females have no decent romance options. That Bull's is to comical, Sera only works if you want F/F and then Blackwall is kind of ok if your ok with the whole I lied to you and now you can have me back and he is the only decent human romance for a female. So its like ok, what about Cullen? They said Cullen is the worse female romance option ever.That he is to whinny about the lyrium thing, he is an idiot with flirting, is all Maker this Maker that (especially they dished the Andraste statue prayer at the end) and so on. I was thinking, wow at this point I am just not going to get on there anymore...I mean anti-Cullen? Who shouldn't boycott those bas***ds!
They had no comment on Solas or Josephine? It's interesting, because looking at the criticisms that are brought up, to me it just emphasizes how much variety female PCs get. You have more aggressive partners, gentler ones, angsty, lighthearted, secretive and refreshingly straightforward. I think that people that can't find something (or someone) to appreciate are simply determined to be unhappy. That or they might be of the opinion that a romance that doesn't cater 100% to their own personal taste qualifies as a "failure". Personally, every time I play through a different romance I always find some new depth, or something to love about the characters and that's the kind of thing that makes them great 
It seems like with Cullen it is either totally love him or hate him. I dunno where I was looking but on a tumblr siteand someone had a hate cullen theme going. One of things was they couldn't understand why Cullen was an advisor. It went on how he had no experience with leading an army and such. They thought he was the dumbest character ever to be chosen as one of your advisors. I saw a picture once with something on it like that too, I'll have to see if I can find it.
You sometimes it makes me wonder if people like that confuse compassionate with whiny. Alistair is my all time favorite romance character out of all BioWare games. I know people have said he is so whiny and gets all weepy over Duncan and all, but I always saw him as someone with a compassionate and kind heart who would grieve for anyone he loved, which is one of the reasons he appealed to me as a Warden LI, you knew if you did die Alistair would mourn you forever. Which if you do die and have him as a Warden in DA2 he says his gift belonged to the love of his life. So if thats whiny, than damn give me a whiny warden any day 
*edit* found it
http://media.tumblr....tLZT1rzmvha.jpg
It seems like with Cullen it is either totally love him or hate him. I dunno where but a looking at tumblr and someone had a hate cullen theme going. One of things was they couldn't understand why Cullen was an advisor. It went on how he had no experience with leading an army and such. They thought he was the dumbest character ever to be chosen as one of your advisors. I saw a picture once with something on it like that too, I'll have to see if I can find it.
You sometimes it makes me wonder if people like that confuse compassionate with whiny. Alistair is my all time favorite romance character out of all BioWare games. I know people have said he is so whiny and gets all weepy over Duncan and all, but I always saw him as someone with a compassionate and kind heart who would grieve for anyone he loved, which is one of the reasons he appealed to me as a Warden LI, you knew if you did die Alistair would mourn you forever. Which if you do die and have him as a Warden in DA2 he says his gift belonged to the love of his life. So if thats whiny, than damn give me a whiny warden any day
Just as a quick advisement: let's not repost hate here. For many reasons...
Also, it perhaps should be repeated: let's also focus on the character, not the fans. Fans are gonna love/hate what they want. Talking about the fans leads to badness. (insert throwing stones in glass houses metaphor, since folks love to talk about the "crazy" Cullen fans)
Retour en haut
