Yeah, Charade's the Tantervale Jenny. I guess that either she left Kirkwall because it became too dangerous after everything that went down, or that the Kirkwall Jenny that Hawke worked for, was a tad territorial?
Charade Amell, among the top five in kirkwall for both sweetness and badassery.
Yeah, Charade's the Tantervale Jenny. I guess that either she left Kirkwall because it became too dangerous after everything that went down, or that the Kirkwall Jenny that Hawke worked for, was a tad territorial?
Yeah, Sera first mentions "some woman in Kirkwall" when you recruit her, but Charade only shows up much later on in the story (at Skyhold) and now writing from Tantervale. She was probably originally based in Kirkwall, but left the city after Hawke left too.
I wonder whether Blackwall is one of the high or low profile ones, given that the other three I'd potentially think of as "high profile" in the original six are actually titled nobility.
Blackwall is one of the LIs the nobles mention as lowborn. Because even with his Warden-Constable title, he's still pretty much a Joe no one. Cullen is a lowborn commoner too, but he's the Commander of the Inquisition now, so he was made high-profile by circumstances.
Sera is also referenced as a "lowborn affair," and Josie gets the same "noble names" line as Cullen, for the record.
@ Cantina: Thanks for asking. As for me, I totally missed the gossiping nobles during my first PT. I wasn't paying too much attention to any of the spectators but when I checked Cullen's Wiki entry I found this:
If the inquisitor romances Cullen, two Orlesian nobles in the throne room will comment on the romance at each progression.
And now it is official 
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Quick question:
Does anyone know a good source / fan theory about how (spoiler about the Hero of Ferelden)
Well I am conversing with Bri in Tweets.
I asked about the whole "Noble names" line between the gossiping nobles. Thus I asked it was possible Cullen was intended to be from a Noble family or there is something other meaning of this line.
She responded with:
Now I understand the whole "noble line" bit. Sort of like a light bulb going off. Even though I am American the damn English language can be down right bloody confusing at times.
^^^cute cute cute
I feel like that could be a FemDwarf
Oooo, I can hope!
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@ Cantina: Thanks for asking. As for me, I totally missed the gossiping nobles during my first PT. I wasn't paying too much attention to any of the spectators but when I checked Cullen's Wiki entry I found this:
Hun, a few pages back I posted videos of me capturing this dialogue. If you wish, check it out and if you cannot find it, let me know.
Thanks, but I want to experience it for myself in game .
HOLD IT. HOLD THE PHONE. DID ANYONE KNOW CHARADE AMELL IS A FRIEND OF RED JENNY?!?!?!?!
Wait what????? How can? Where's it said???
I wondered this, too. I feel like if his parents were dead he'd have mentioned it, but I guess we can headcanon whatever we want. Based on his comments about Mia being "good at tracking him down" I've just assumed that the others in his family have tried in the past, but only Mia was wily and resourceful enough to manage it. From the way he describes her it seems she's just as determined and willful as he is. Maybe she takes charge of looking after everyone since she's the eldest and the 'rents are getting on in years? I like to imagine she relays information to the rest of the family after she's received it.
I do wish we were given more information about his family, though. /wistful sigh
Maybe Mia still live not far fromt he rest of the family & all the family tell her what to say in the letter? Like "Cullen, Mom tells you to eat bell peppers and broccoli even if you don't like it because it's good for your health and don't forget to wear scarf" or things like that. It's just that we don't read that maybe?
Yeah, Charade's the Tantervale Jenny. I guess that either she left Kirkwall because it became too dangerous after everything that went down, or that the Kirkwall Jenny that Hawke worked for, was a tad territorial?
Yeah, Sera first mentions "some woman in Kirkwall" when you recruit her, but Charade only shows up much later on in the story (at Skyhold) and now writing from Tantervale. She was probably originally based in Kirkwall, but left the city after Hawke left too.
Blackwall is one of the LIs the nobles mention as lowborn. Because even with his Warden-Constable title, he's still pretty much a Joe no one. Cullen is a lowborn commoner too, but he's the Commander of the Inquisition now, so he was made high-profile by circumstances.
Sera is also referenced as a "lowborn affair," and Josie gets the same "noble names" line as Cullen, for the record.
Where it's said about Charade???
Where it's said about Charade???
It's a bit subtle. I didn't "get it" until my second playthrough or so. 
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http://mangakasanaka...o-ferelden-lake
I always wondered how their trip to Ferelden/lake (happier times inner circle quest) would have been like…*I think i have a problem…it starts with a C…..lol*
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*facepalms* I never made that connection...I was thinking of the noun charade, not the name Charade...lol Thedas really is a small world 
You know In the Samson thread, someone made a contrast between him and Cullen and it got me thinking. Cullen could've easily ended up like Samson, considering all the abuse he's taken through the two games. Can you imagine facing a Red Lyrium enhanced Cullen rather than Samson? I was pretty sad thinking about it.
You know In the Samson thread, someone made a contrast between him and Cullen and it got me thinking. Cullen could've easily ended up like Samson, considering all the abuse he's taken through the two games. Can you imagine facing a Red Lyrium enhanced Cullen rather than Samson? I was pretty sad thinking about it.
What is and what never can be. In another ocean, yeah, Cullen could easily have become the Samson of the game.
And now I wanna replay Bioshock Infinite.
Mmm, now that I'm home and get a closer look, I agree with CuriousArtemis, that did look like a dwarven woman. But I clicked through to the artist's page, that's a mage warden, sigh.
You know In the Samson thread, someone made a contrast between him and Cullen and it got me thinking. Cullen could've easily ended up like Samson, considering all the abuse he's taken through the two games. Can you imagine facing a Red Lyrium enhanced Cullen rather than Samson? I was pretty sad thinking about it.
I have heard this before, and i know Cullen brings it up himself in the game. But I don't buy it. I think there are fundamental difference between them that goes way beyond lyrium and circumstance.
Here are my thoughts.
Samson is easily swayed by his emotions. He helps mages, was even kicked out of the templars for sending letters between sweethearts. He was deeply compassionate, and we saw this in DA2 and even in weird way, in DAI. Cullen is non uncompassionate by any means, but he is a bit more rigid...or maybe the better word is 'controlled'. He has a crush on Amell, but he won't act on it because it is inappropriate. He develops feelings for the quizzy, but waits for her to bring it up because of their relative positions. I think this is a key difference between them. Samson acts from an emotional level first (e.g. what feels right), where Cullen acts more based on correctness (need a better word) (e.g. what is right).
Willpower - Samson is highly addicted to lyrium suffering terribly when taken off it. He also indulges and takes to much when he has it. Cullen has a comparatively easy time quitting the stuff (but it could be argued that choosing to quit and being cut-off are two different things). But Cullen proves his ability to use "mind-over-matter" in DAO...with the blood mages. He is a tough nut to crack. Samson is weaker willed.
So the question is, could Cullen have become what Samson became? Sure...but I think the route would have been drastically different. If Cullen had been kicked out of the templars, would he have wandered the streets looking for s lyrium fix? Maybe...if it got bad enough. But would he have cursed the chantry, helping mages escape the circle in some combination of sticking it the man and caring for the outcasts? I don't think so. I think he would have tried to move on and do something useful. He wanted to serve. He has a military mind. I think is personality would have sent him down a very different road from Samson.
And then, what about the route to becoming Cory's vessel? Corypheous would have had to appealed to Cullen's sense of right on wrong. Dangling lyrium or power in front of him wouldn't have been enough, as it was for Samson, because Cullen doesn't lead with his emotions. He leads with his...idk...moral code.
This is not to say that one man is fundamentally better than the other. But I don't see their places as so easily interchangeable.
Ok...sorry for the long post! Just thinking as i am typing and this is the result!
Am I the only one who headcanons that place Cullen takes the Inquisitor near Honnleath is a river instead of a lake? The first time I saw it, I thought we were in the Fallow Mire and wondered how anyone could have found it peaceful or beautiful. I half expected to see bodies floating in the water and was prepared to start harvesting diseased flesh. Now, I close my eyes and imagine the water sounds like it's moving, instead of some stagnant, still body of water and I'm less disturbed.
Ok...sorry for the long post!
Two thumbs up, would read again More Cullenalysis is always a good thing!
I made a cutie patootie
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Ignore the reflection of my living room
I was so excited I grabbed my camera phone and forgot to just hit "print screen"
Actually, the reflection makes pretty good artistic touch.
Human? Wow, you're putting her with which LI?
Actually, the reflection makes pretty good artistic touch.
Human? Wow, you're putting her with which LI?
I freaking love that you thought he was a human female No silly, another elven male!!! This is good ole Kael Lavellan. TIME FOR FIREBALLS!!!!!!
Charade Amell, among the top five in kirkwall for both sweetness and badassery.
Charade needs her own game... or at least an awesome nickname?
I mean, her cousin is the Champion of Kirkwall, her second cousin is (possibly) the Hero of Ferelden... why can't she be the Terror of Tantervale?
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You know In the Samson thread, someone made a contrast between him and Cullen and it got me thinking. Cullen could've easily ended up like Samson, considering all the abuse he's taken through the two games. Can you imagine facing a Red Lyrium enhanced Cullen rather than Samson? I was pretty sad thinking about it.
I mused over there that we get signs that Samson might have been far more moderate of a Templar and far more indifferent to magic than Cullen was, since he distrusted magic for a very long time?
Assuming that his motivations were selfless and not self-serving in some way, Samson helped Maddox deliver a love letter, helped mages escape Kirkwall (even if some did accidentally get sold to slavers) and helped rescue the Tranquil when the Circle's fell apart, all of which Cullen would have not done in his position... and for the last one, later regrets that he didn't?
It's interesting that Samson might have been kicked out for being an objectively "nicer" Templar than Cullen, whereas Meredith kept Cullen because she wanted to kindle his distrust of magic into the same kind of paranoia she had?
*snip*
This is not to say that one man is fundamentally better than the other. But I don't see their places as so easily interchangeable.
Ok...sorry for the long post!
Well said!
Am I the only one who headcanons that place Cullen takes the Inquisitor near Honnleath is a river instead of a lake? The first time I saw it, I thought we were in the Fallow Mire and wondered how anyone could have found it peaceful or beautiful. I half expected to see bodies floating in the water and was prepared to start harvesting diseased flesh. Now, I close my eyes and imagine the water sounds like it's moving, instead of some stagnant, still body of water and I'm less disturbed.
Oh, that pond is pretty. My reaction, however, was that it was nighttime and a still body of water. If you two are about to start losing any clothes, I hope you brought the mosquito repellant! 
I freaking love that you thought he was a human female
What?????!!! Seriously??? Wow... I didn't know, oups...
I blame it to the haaaaaaiiiir, my human mage girl get exactly the same hair
I mused over there that we get signs that Samson might have been far more moderate of a Templar and far more indifferent to magic than Cullen was, since he distrusted magic for a very long time?Assuming that his motivations were selfless and not self-serving in some way, Samson helped Maddox deliver a love letter, helped mages escape Kirkwall (even if some did accidentally get sold to slavers) and helped rescue the Tranquil when the Circle's fell apart, all of which Cullen would have not done in his position... and for the last one, later regrets that he didn't?
It's interesting that Samson might have been kicked out for being an objectively "nicer" Templar than Cullen, whereas Meredith kept Cullen because she wanted to kindle his distrust of magic into the same kind of paranoia she had?
I actually find Samson a pretty interesting character. Like timebean said, he's a pretty compassionate one (or at least in DA2 he seems to be one) but with a skewed morality.
But even in DA2 Samson got kicked out of the Templar & Maddox made Tranquil due to Meredith being... well, Meredith. I wonder however, if ever Meredith was more like Greagoir, what would Cullen be? He won't be second in command IMO.
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