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Am I the only one who headcanons that place Cullen takes the Inquisitor near Honnleath is a river instead of a lake?  The first time I saw it, I thought we were in the Fallow Mire and wondered how anyone could have found it peaceful or beautiful.  I half expected to see bodies floating in the water and was prepared to start harvesting diseased flesh.  Now, I close my eyes and imagine the water sounds like it's moving, instead of some stagnant, still body of water and I'm less disturbed.

 

Just sayin', the location of the scene is taken at Crestwood (but we know that BW just re-use the environment, I doubt that it's really Crestwood). The place is really pretty in that spot. It's near the southern entrance bridge.

 

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snip

 

This is not to say that one man is fundamentally better than the other.  But I don't see their places as so easily interchangeable.

 

Ok...sorry for the long post! :P Just thinking as i am typing and this is the result!

 

Very aptly put, well done! I totally agree. Even though I've just finished a Red Lyrium Cullen painting (which was fun in its own right in terms of technical execution), this is part of the reason I never could really get into the whole Red Lyrium Cullen thing, besides the fact that I don't feel like imagining Cullen suffering any more than he already has, haha.

 

And long posts are absolutely welcome, I love reading in-depth analyses of characters and their motivations. Maker knows I'm guilty of writing walls of text myself sometimes :P


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Oh, that pond is pretty. My reaction, however, was that it was nighttime and a still body of water. If you two are about to start losing any clothes, I hope you brought the mosquito repellant! :blink: :lol:

 

The codex entry ruins it a little... because that if that's Crestwood, the pond is just a sinkhole that darkspawn poured out of during the Blight, but luckily the dam and heavy rain caused it to flod and thus drowned the 'spawn before they could attack the village.

 

I don't know how anyone could get turned on by that... well, except for perhaps Wardens? :lol:


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What?????!!! Seriously??? Wow... I didn't know, oups... :lol:


It's awesome though :D cause generally speaking androgyny is exactly what I'm going for when I create my characters!
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But even in DA2 Samson got kicked out of the Templar & Maddox made Tranquil due to Meredith being... well, Meredith. I wonder however, if ever Meredith was more like Greagoir, what would Cullen be? He won't be second in command IMO.

 

I think that's probably why she originally picked him as her XO, because she figured that his experiences during Uldred's rebellion would foster in him a similar kind of hatred of magic that she held?

 

It does make me wonder if perhaps she might have limited his power after finding out this was not the case, because despite being her second-in-command, Cullen seems to have had very little power over the Templars, or that much knowledge of what his subordinates were getting upto? Or perhaps Meredith always hogged all the power, because crazy or not, she's does seem the kind of person who has to micromanage everything?

 

Actually, I think Greagoir is probably the kind of Templar that Cullen ended up becoming in the end? Greagoir might have been a tad harsh at times (like sentencing Lily to Aeonar), but that seems a little par for the course when it comes to people who associate with blood mages? Otherwise, the guy at least tried to be fair to the mages and had a lot of respect for Irving, as much as they bickered?

 

(I do wonder what happened to Greagoir and Irving after the Circle's fell? Given how loyal they were to the Chantry, were they at the Conclave?)


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The codex entry ruins it a little... because that if that's Crestwood, the pond is just a sinkhole that darkspawn poured out of during the Blight, but luckily the dam and heavy rain caused it to flod and thus drowned the 'spawn before they could attack the village.

 

I don't know how anyone could get turned on by that... well, except for perhaps Wardens? :lol:

It is supposed to be near Honnleath, not in Crestwood (although I think they reused the Crestwood landscape, lol).


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Looks like he put up his first alarm. Oh, GE.
http://www.whosay.co...tw&code=JUAa7Fz
 
EDIT instead of making a new reply, to minimize number of posts: 
 

I mused over there that we get signs that Samson might have been far more moderate of a Templar and far more indifferent to magic than Cullen was, since he distrusted magic for a very long time?
 
Assuming that his motivations were selfless and not self-serving in some way, Samson helped Maddox deliver a love letter, helped mages escape Kirkwall (even if some did accidentally get sold to slavers) and helped rescue the Tranquil when the Circle's fell apart, all of which Cullen would have not done in his position... and for the last one, later regrets that he didn't?
 
It's interesting that Samson might have been kicked out for being an objectively "nicer" Templar than Cullen, whereas Meredith kept Cullen because she wanted to kindle his distrust of magic into the same kind of paranoia she had?

I don't think it's fair to compare DA2 Cullen's "niceness" to mages with Samson's. In his "unperturbed state", i.e. at the start of DA:O, Cullen is friendly to either the male or female mage Warden, and in the latter case speaks highly of her to anyone who will listen, refers to her magical ability as a "talent", and invites her to have friendly personal conversations with him more often. Kindness to Maddox aside, if Samson couldn't get through standard templar duties responsibly, I doubt he'd have come out even as level-headed as early DA2 Cullen if Uldred had happened to him. And even though he ran letters for Maddox, the fact that Samson refers to the mage-templar collaboration against Meredith as "going against everything that's natural" or something to that effect in DA2 doesn't leave me thinking he ever thought of mages as equals.


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I think that's probably why she originally picked him as her XO, because she figured that his experiences during Uldred's rebellion would foster in him a similar kind of hatred of magic that she held?

 

It does make me wonder if perhaps she might have limited his power after finding out this was not the case, because despite being her second-in-command, Cullen seems to have had very little power over the Templars, or that much knowledge of what his subordinates were getting upto? Or perhaps Meredith always hogged all the power, because crazy or not, she's does seem the kind of person who has to micromanage everything?

 

Actually, I think Greagoir is probably the kind of Templar that Cullen ended up becoming in the end? Greagoir might have been a tad harsh at times (like sentencing Lily to Aeonar), but that seems a little par for the course when it comes to people who associate with blood mages? Otherwise, the guy at least tried to be fair to the mages and had a lot of respect for Irving, as much as they bickered?

 

(I do wonder what happened to Greagoir and Irving after the Circle's fell? Given how loyal they were to the Chantry, were they at the Conclave?)

I dunno how fair I'd describe Greagoir. One of my mages went straight to Irving about Jowan and Lily, figuring there was no way that was going to end well for the mages. My mage did exactly what Irving ordered her to do, and Greagoir still was ready to punish her (tranquility, possibly?) for following orders.

 

I think one version of the rumor slides had Greagoir retiring not long after that to a chantry and dying in his sleep? I'm not sure Irving's fate has been mentioned.


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I dunno how fair I'd describe Greagoir. One of my mages went straight to Irving about Jowan and Lily, figuring there was no way that was going to end well for the mages. My mage did exactly what Irving ordered her to do, and Greagoir still was ready to punish her (tranquility, possibly?) for following orders.

 

I think one version of the rumor slides had Greagoir retiring not long after that to a chantry and dying in his sleep? I'm not sure Irving's fate has been mentioned.

 

I figured that Greagoir and Irving expected you to get to the first door, fail to open it and turn around... not burn down another door, enter the room of cool but forbidden things, kill all the sentinels (which can't be cheap), then break down a wall and smash Jowan's phylactery?

 

Because when you look at it that way, we did kinda give him a reason to be pretty angry with us? Still, it's not our fault the instructions weren't clear?

 

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Looks like he put up his first alarm. Oh, GE.
http://www.whosay.co...tw&code=JUAa7Fz

 

So apparently he was made aware of Cullen's roof situation...  :P


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If only Irving had been leading the mages at Redcliffe instead of Fiona... *sigh* I miss that guy.

 

Hmm, what would Cullen say to his love in the morning? I'm thinking something like, "Gotta go calibrate those trebuchets, see you later hon."  :P



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I figured that Greagoir and Irving expected you to get to the first door, fail to open it and turn around... not burn down another door, enter the room of cool but forbidden things, kill all the sentinels (which can't be cheap), then break down a wall and smash Jowan's phylactery?

 

Because when you look at it that way, we did kinda give him a reason to be pretty angry with us? Still, it's not our fault the instructions weren't clear?

 

:lol:

Nope, Irving even suggested an alternate way through.


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I also would not discribe Gegior as fair since as mage play through that did both options, I was a bit what the **** dude I did this on the orders of the first enchanter.

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So apparently he was made aware of Cullen's roof situation...  :P


Owlfruit is a Shitty Cullenite confession: I couldn't get all the way through it and wimped out before that point. Even if I didn't already love him for his work being such a standout in all three games, I'd love the hell out of him for being so generous with his fans with this stuff. But it's somehow really weird for me to hear almost-but-not-quite-Cullen's-voice (I feel like he does it a bit nerdier in these, but not in the same way DA2 Cullen was a little... prissier? than DAO or DAI Cullen) saying almost-but-not-quite-in-character things. Sort of like how it's hard to listen to recordings of yourself.


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Hey, sorry for the off-topic question, but I just joined tumblr and I'm all kinds of confused :/.  Let's say I post something and tag it as "cullen": I look up the most recent stuff tagged "cullen" and it doesn't come up.  Is that normal or is there some magical tag I need to make my stuff visible?

 

Here's a Cullen so I stay on topic:

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http://morbidcookie....ddles-476679636



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Owlfruit is a Shitty Cullenite confession: I couldn't get all the way through it and wimped out before that point. Even if I didn't already love him for his work being such a standout in all three games, I'd love the hell out of him for being so generous with his fans with this stuff. But it's somehow really weird for me to hear almost-but-not-quite-Cullen's-voice (I feel like he does it a bit nerdier in these, but not in the same way DA2 Cullen was a little... prissier? than DAO or DAI Cullen) saying almost-but-not-quite-in-character things. Sort of like how it's hard to listen to recordings of yourself.

 

Oh believe me, I actually manage to slightly embarrass myself listening to those. I don't think I could ever put those on my phone - that's not saying much though since my current text tone is R2-D2. :P  

 

But it is a very nice gesture on his part - he really does care about his fans which is awesome. 

 

Hey, sorry for the off-topic question, but I just joined tumblr and I'm all kinds of confused :/.  Let's say I post something and tag it as "cullen": I look up the most recent stuff tagged "cullen" and it doesn't come up.  Is that normal or is there some magical tag I need to make my stuff visible?

 

 

I'm pretty new to tumblr too, but I think it might show the most popular stuff first. 


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I made a cutie patootie :P

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Ignore the reflection of my living room :lol: I was so excited I grabbed my camera phone and forgot to just hit "print screen" :lol:

What's his name? Is it anything elven or is it a name you already had planned out.



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Looks like he put up his first alarm. Oh, GE.
http://www.whosay.co...tw&code=JUAa7Fz
 
 

OHHHH!  He is such a darned sweetheart!  I could totally wake up to that every morning.  My boyfriend...eh...not so much! I want him to do a dirty limerick in Cullen's voice.

How about...(spoilered for slight naughtiness)

 

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OHHHH!  He is such a darned sweetheart!  I could totally wake up to that every morning.  My boyfriend...eh...not so much! I want him to do a dirty limerick in Cullen's voice.

How about...(spoilered for slight naughtiness)

 

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:lol:

 

HA! Did everybody see this in Emerald Graves?

 

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#122370
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I think that's probably why she originally picked him as her XO, because she figured that his experiences during Uldred's rebellion would foster in him a similar kind of hatred of magic that she held?

It actually says this in Cullen's DA2 codex. She liked that he his views on magic were similar to hers.

 

 

I think one version of the rumor slides had Greagoir retiring not long after that to a chantry and dying in his sleep? I'm not sure Irving's fate has been mentioned.

Isn't that the one where Cullen takes over as Knight-Commander, tho? So retconned? 

 

Owlfruit is a Shitty Cullenite confession: I couldn't get all the way through it and wimped out before that point. Even if I didn't already love him for his work being such a standout in all three games, I'd love the hell out of him for being so generous with his fans with this stuff. But it's somehow really weird for me to hear almost-but-not-quite-Cullen's-voice (I feel like he does it a bit nerdier in these, but not in the same way DA2 Cullen was a little... prissier? than DAO or DAI Cullen) saying almost-but-not-quite-in-character things. Sort of like how it's hard to listen to recordings of yourself.

Naw, I'm totally with you. It just sounds like Greg saying silly things... not Cullen. :shrug: It's sweet, but... meh. 


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What's his name? Is it anything elven or is it a name you already had planned out.

 

Kael :) I've had him planned out months before the game came out. (Both Kael and Auren were pre-planned and I did try to construct names that seemed to use elven roots.) He was originally supposed to romance Bull, and I think it would've really worked out, too, but unfortunately I already romanced Bull and don't feel inclined to do so again. I guess Dorian then. Such a shame b/c once again I felt immediate chemistry with Solas lol Bah. Fortunately Kael was never the type to go for Cullen. Probably because Cullen x Auren is my OTP ahem >.> Yes, anyway.

 

I really like the way his eyes came out.

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Unfortunately I've once again screwed up the lips. While in the CC, all I did was ghost over "lip color" (didn't even attempt to change anything), and the lips suddenly turned bright red. Like, WTF? So that meant I had to painstakingly attempt to use the lip color and lip liner to create a natural color lip. I got the color and liner to be the exact same color in CC but of course once I start playing the lip liner is clear as daylight. Oh well. We'll say it's chapstick :P


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I'm pretty new to tumblr too, but I think it might show the most popular stuff first. 

Ha, while I was looking for my stuff on tumblr, I found that someone else already posted one of my videos and it was reblogged and favorited by some people...  I still can't find the my own post though XD



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Kael :) I've had him planned out months before the game came out. (Both Kael and Auren were pre-planned and I did try to construct names that seemed to use elven roots.) He was originally supposed to romance Bull, and I think it would've really worked out, too, but unfortunately I already romanced Bull and don't feel inclined to do so again. I guess Dorian then. Such a shame b/c once again I felt immediate chemistry with Solas lol Bah. Fortunately Kael was never the type to go for Cullen. Probably because Cullen x Auren is my OTP ahem >.> Yes, anyway.

 

I really like the way his eyes came out.

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Unfortunately I've once again screwed up the lips. While in the CC, all I did was ghost over "lip color" (didn't even attempt to change anything), and the lips suddenly turned bright red. Like, WTF? So that meant I had to painstakingly attempt to use the lip color and lip liner to create a natural color lip. I got the color and liner to be the exact same color in CC but of course once I start playing the lip liner is clear as daylight. Oh well. We'll say it's chapstick :P

Eh, it could had turned out worse. He could had looked like "Beauty", the IQ that one of the Devs made.  I always find the lip color annoying when it comes to males, like really...lip shine and bright pink lips?! No...

 

I like his smile! He looks fairly impish which would mean that Sera would have a riot with him. Is he sarcastic or sweet? Dorian pounces on both.



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Ha, while I was looking for my stuff on tumblr, I found that someone else already posted one of my videos and it was reblogged and favorited by some people...  I still can't find the my own post though XD

The search function is different than the tags. If you just want to see the tag, go to www.tumblr.com/tagged/tag so, for example: https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/cullen. That will show you every original post with the tag "cullen". It will not show reblogs. To see what you tagged just on your blog, go to 

yourtumblrname.tumblr.com/tagged/tag 

 

edit: Also, tumblr only tracks the first five tags. So if you put something after the first five, it won't show up in the tags. 


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Ha, while I was looking for my stuff on tumblr, I found that someone else already posted one of my videos and it was reblogged and favorited by some people...  I still can't find the my own post though XD

 

That's why I joined tumblr. People were blogging my screenshots, but because I didn't have my own blog, I wasn't getting credited. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Not sure if it's good, but I've already gotten over 150 followers in like a week.  :P

 

As a side thought - I'm currently in the Fade and I came across the little graveyard. Not all of the stones are marked, so I got to counting. There are just enough for everybody including Hawke and the Warden (Alistair/Logain/Stroud). There has to be some significance to the unmarked one with the bottle of red lyrium - do you guys think it could be Cullen's? That would make a lot of sense for that to be his greatest fear (especially if your IQ recruited the mages and are thus working on Before the Dawn):

 

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Also, I wuv how my Hawke turned out!

 

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