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[R2s Muse]

Harking back to the discussion a few pages ago about the noble's romance banter and Brianne's reply, I always figured that while Cullen himself wasn't noble, like Hawke he probably had nobility somewhere in his family tree.  As in, perhaps his father was a younger son of a younger son of some Fereldan bann, and didn't inherit any titles or money.  Perhaps, given his now lofty position, that's near enough for the Orlesian nobles? 
 
I'm pretty much basing this on the fact that he actually has a surname, and this little snippet from the Ferelden article in the Dragon Age wiki:

Thedas doesn't quite follow that rule slavishly, but it's certainly possible. The way I read Brianne's comment, tho, is that he could be Cullen Baker, and he'd still have caught those nobles' eye because of his Inquisition title and power.

[Tishina]

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Ehh he is never really very warm with you. We always felt like fellow soldiers of the inquisition, perhaps brothers in arms to some extent, but not dear friends. He's a bit standoffish (which suits his personality and is why I think a romance with him would be super sweet).

 

I'm finding he's a lot  more stand-offish to a female dwarf as well, and that's my pro-templar PT, sigh. Actually, I'm finding a lot of the companions and advisors cooler toward my dwarf than my two dalish, or at least that's how it feels to me. Cass and BW are fine, and Leliana is about the same, and I suppose IB and Sera would be if I flirted with them, which I haven't. Not sure about Dorian, he's just joined. So far, being a dwarf hasn't changed much with Varric than I can tell, other than a banter or two. Hopefully it'll improve now that she's at Skyhold.

[TheRaccoon]

Can you have a hardcore bromance with Cullen? I've yet to make a male IQ and really want my first one to be best buds with him.

 

 

This is coming from a straight male gamer. I guess it depends on your definition of 'bro'. He certainly treats you like a friend as he talks about his personal life and Fereldan Circle. He trusts you much. He feels like a mentor-ish, pragmatic, supportive friend to me. I can imagine myself asking him for advice, playing chess or grabbing a drink with him at the tavern. He is very trustworthy and as Blackwall said, 'I can trust him to watch my back.' 

 

I felt much more connected to him as a male templar tho. Aside from the warrior bonding, I also really like the 'templar brothers' thing. Cullen is the senior templar to my IQ so my IQ would look up to him as he is more experienced. While Cullen would also look up to the IQ as he is his superior. idk, I feel like he is a bro to me in DAI but he is a very diff kind of bro from, say, Varric.

 

PS I joined this fandom as I really admire Cullen's personality. Reserved, yet determined and protective. lol

[MelissaGT]

Speaking of Templars...Perseverance Part 1!

 

[blauwvis]

Going back to the earlier discussion of parallels between Cullen and Samson: the relationship between the two characters is an interesting one. I've read criticisms of Cullen's behaviour during Before the Dawn, namely that Cullen's judgemental attitude towards Samson is unpleasant because it suggests that Cullen thinks he's so much better than Samson. I have always believed the opposite: Cullen is reflexively, harshly judgemental towards Samson because he thinks that he and Samson are so much alike.

I believe quite strongly that this fear is the driving force behind Cullen's anger during that quest. He's upset about what Samson's done and what's become of the order, of course, but at the root of it is the fact that when he looks at Samson, he sees his own dark reflection. He attempts to deny it with his attitude, but “that could easily have been me” is always at the back of his mind.

We can say, “oh it wouldn't have happened to Cullen, he's so strong-willed and compassionate,” but he very nearly wasn't. What if he hadn't reconnected with his compassionate side? His attitude from the end of DA:O up to most of the way through DA2 was such that he'd have happily joined up with Lambert when the Templars split from the Chantry. If he has dealt better with his lyrium addiction, perhaps it is only because he's had more support than Samson was ever offered. We're shown the extent to which his past knaws at him; is it much of a stretch to imagine that these are the sort of thoughts he dwells on while considering his nemesis?

Well, it's my own interpretation, anyway. I feel a certain sympathy for Samson, and I feel very sympathetic for Cullen during BtD.

[the inquisitor94]

I was going to romance Blackwall but regreted it. We split up and went straight to Cullen (again). For 2nd time i romanced him with a mage human

[Tarlonniel]

If there had been a tombstone for Cullen in the Fade, what would've been written on it?

 

IMHO one of his greatest fears is betraying those he's sworn to protect, so I'd go with something like "Corruption" or "Faithlessness."

[R2s Muse]

If there had been a tombstone for Cullen in the Fade, what would've been written on it?
 
IMHO one of his greatest fears is betraying those he's sworn to protect, so I'd go with something like "Corruption" or "Faithlessness."

That's a great question! My first thought would be "failing his duty" which is similar. But failing in something that he'd committed himself to do, whichever duty that might currently be. In this case, I guess failing the Inquisition and the Inquisitor.

 

LOL But given my comment below, maybe a better one is "Becoming Meredith." 

 

We can say, “oh it wouldn't have happened to Cullen, he's so strong-willed and compassionate,” but he very nearly wasn't. What if he hadn't reconnected with his compassionate side? His attitude from the end of DA:O up to most of the way through DA2 was such that he'd have happily joined up with Lambert when the Templars split from the Chantry. If he has dealt better with his lyrium addiction, perhaps it is only because he's had more support than Samson was ever offered. We're shown the extent to which his past knaws at him; is it much of a stretch to imagine that these are the sort of thoughts he dwells on while considering his nemesis?

I agree, and it he even says it himself that it could have been him. It's a worry that he would've ended up like Meredith. But... I didn't see the suggestion being that it would never happen to him. What I read was that it wouldn't happen to him in the same way.

 

The way I see it, he could've been corrupted by fear and hate of mages more like Meredith, and could've ended up doing bad things in the name of good. In detail, tho, I don't know that he'd end up make the same types of choices that Samson did. Samson strikes me as taking the weak-willed person's grab for power. I think if Cullen went bad... it would be much darker and more spectacular.

 

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[R2s Muse]

 
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[blauwvis]

The way I see it, he could've been corrupted by fear and hate of mages more like Meredith, and could've ended up doing bad things in the name of good. In detail, tho, I don't know that he'd end up make the same types of choices that Samson did. Samson strikes me as taking the weak-willed person's grab for power. I think if Cullen went bad... it would be much darker and more spectacular.

I don't have enough of a grasp on the sequence of events that led Samson to his present state to make a firm judgement one way or another, though I disagree that he did what he did just to grab at power. His attitude at trial suggests that the offer before him was along the lines of, "hey you've been kicked around your entire life by a group of people who use you, betray you, and care nothing for you; here's a chance to make a difference, and to instill your similarly abused comrades with a sense of purpose."

Would that have been entirely unappealing to Cullen? He's not as bitter as Samson, I'm sure. And yet his opening "why I joined the Inquisition" speech suggests that he was looking for something not entirely dissimilar. Well. Something with less madness, red lyrium and death, certainly.

[R2s Muse]

I don't have enough of a grasp on the sequence of events that led Samson to his present state to judge one way or another. His attitude at trial suggests that the offer before him was along the lines of, "hey you've been kicked around your entire life by a group of people who use you, betray you, and care nothing for you; here's a chance to make a difference, and to instill your similarly abused comrades with a sense of purpose."

Would that have been entirely unappealing to Cullen? He's not as bitter as Samson, I'm sure. And yet his opening "why I joined the Inquisition" speech suggests that he was looking for something not entirely dissimilar. Well. Something with less madness, red lyrium and death, certainly.

Yeah, I'm not clear on them either. But I don't see Cullen as someone who's been kicked around. I see  him as someone who believed very deeply and had that belief betrayed. But he was never broken like Samson. Samson gives me the feel of the kid who was picked on and bullied who's getting his revenge. Again, I think if Cullen went bad it would be because he believed very strongly he was doing to the good, right thing and, in so doing, brought doom upon the world. Perhaps more like Lord Seeker Lucius. Or Meredith. 

[QweenBeen]

Regarding lyrium withdrawals, I'll link to the first fic I read that actually turned me into a Cullen fan. There's lyrium withdrawal based on what we knew from Origins. Yes, it's 40 chapters but it's really good and I'm just linking to it for science.

What We Become

Who recommended the fan fic "What We Become" by Crisium? Holy ****, it's good. I'm trying to savor it, but I'm almost done and that makes me sad.

I will also add that I'm not really into the ring tones or alarms for the reasons you guys mentioned - just doesn't sound like Cullen, but I admire Greg Ellis for doing it.

Monica21 posted "what We've Become" for us here and it's really so good. For being originally based on a Cullen that we hardly knew from DAO, the writer did a great job imagining him. I would've fallen in love with him so harrrrrd if I'd read this 4 years ago! Halfway through but thank you Monica21, for sharing a cullen I can enjoy on my lunch breaks! That'll almost be 24/7 cullenness, except when I sleep (damnit) and work... (double damnit)...

[Ryriena]

Yesterday, my sister and dad had cut down a tree with a squrial nest inside the tree with tree baby squrial inside the tree they were adorable

[Cerulione]

Yeah, I'm not clear on them either. But I don't see Cullen as someone who's been kicked around. I see  him as someone who believed very deeply and had that belief betrayed. But he was never broken like Samson. Samson gives me the feel of the kid who was picked on and bullied who's getting his revenge. Again, I think if Cullen went bad it would be because he believed very strongly he was doing to the good, right thing and, in so doing, brought doom upon the world. Perhaps more like Lord Seeker Lucius. Or Meredith. 

 

The line between heroes and villains are very very thin...

 

(That's why I love Loghain & Meredith... One slip, like Wynne said, can make heroes villains).

 

If there had been a tombstone for Cullen in the Fade, what would've been written on it?

 

IMHO one of his greatest fears is betraying those he's sworn to protect, so I'd go with something like "Corruption" or "Faithlessness."

 

Interesting question. Failure...? Faltering...? Corruption...? Losing his mind?

 

 

A question everyone, how tall do you think Cullen is? And about how tall is an elven (lady) inquisitor is? Normally the human proportion is around 8 heads tall for human male, 2 heads wide. I'm wondering how much it is on elven ladies, 5 heads tall and 1.5 head wide? Their shoulders seems much narrower than humans...

And if ever Cullen wear GoT style cloak, what will the colour be? Dark magenta like his surcoat?

[ThreeF]

If there had been a tombstone for Cullen in the Fade, what would've been written on it?

 

IMHO one of his greatest fears is betraying those he's sworn to protect, so I'd go with something like "Corruption" or "Faithlessness."

 

I think it would be "Failure", you sort of get a glimpse of it, if you keep him on lyrium.

[QweenBeen]

If cullen had a tombstone....hmmm...."losing control" I think would apply to his role as commander, but also his resilience against taking lyrium, and his fear of losing quizzy. Good question! Lelianna I suppose would be "weakness" depending on the choices you help her with, and josie....ummm..."silence"? Or "irrationality"?

[Caja]

Looks like he put up his first alarm. Oh, GE.
http://www.whosay.co...tw&code=JUAa7Fz
 

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Oh believe me, I actually manage to slightly embarrass myself listening to those. I don't think I could ever put those on my phone - that's not saying much though since my current text tone is R2-D2.   

 

But it is a very nice gesture on his part - he really does care about his fans which is awesome. 

 

 

I'm pretty new to tumblr too, but I think it might show the most popular stuff first. 

Glad that I wasn't the only one. I think I blushed a little when I listened to it. LOL. As awesome as it is that Greg is recording these ringtones, it's nothing that I want on my phone or alarm clock. But I'm happy that others are enjoying them.

 

 

Harking back to the discussion a few pages ago about the noble's romance banter and Brianne's reply, I always figured that while Cullen himself wasn't noble, like Hawke he probably had nobility somewhere in his family tree.  As in, perhaps his father was a younger son of a younger son of some Fereldan bann, and didn't inherit any titles or money.  Perhaps, given his now lofty position, that's near enough for the Orlesian nobles? 

 

I'm pretty much basing this on the fact that he actually has a surname, and this little snippet from the Ferelden article in the Dragon Age wiki:

 

Thedas doesn't quite follow that rule slavishly, but it's certainly possible. The way I read Brianne's comment, tho, is that he could be Cullen Baker, and he'd still have caught those nobles' eye because of his Inquisition title and power.

I agree. Her comment suggests that he has a high profile now due to the fact that he is leading the Inquisition's forces. So he stands out and that's why the nobles gossip about his relationship with the Inquisitor, the highest in command.

[QweenBeen]

A question everyone, how tall do you think Cullen is? And about how tall is an elven (lady) inquisitor is? Normally the human proportion is around 8 heads tall for human male, 2 heads wide. I'm wondering how much it is on elven ladies, 5 heads tall and 1.5 head wide? Their shoulders seems much narrower than humans...
And if ever Cullen wear GoT style cloak, what will the colour be? Dark magenta like his surcoat?

I went with 6' or 6'1 and elves are petite so I'd go between 5'1 or 5'3 for them. Yeaaaah it doesn't look like he's a total foot taller thamn her in game but it works in my head whatever works in yours!

[MelissaGT]

Ok guys, here they are...the rest of Perseverance for the templar couple:

 

 

 

It was tough, but I think it fits their relationship. I did get some wonderful screenies last night for *hugs* after you guys watch these... 

[TheRaccoon]

I have tested this yesterday. I am playing a speedrun pt and I skipped Before the Dawn as I am not romancing Cullen this time. And I am still able to judge Samson after that war table quest. I don't know if this would trigger Cullen's knife-throwing scene tho. Will check later.

 

I feel stupid quoting myself... But here's an update. You don't have to complete Before the Dawn in order to activate the 'Bring Samson to Judgement' war table mission. You can still trigger Cullen's dagger-throwing scene this way. But I can't give Samson to Cullen this time. Is it romance-related or you actually have to finish Before the Dawn to give him to Cullen?

[alwayshungry]

I feel stupid quoting myself... But here's an update. You don't have to complete Before the Dawn in order to activate the 'Bring Samson to Judgement' war table mission. You can still trigger Cullen's dagger-throwing scene this way. But I can't give Samson to Cullen this time. Is it romance-related or you actually have to finish Before the Dawn to give him to Cullen?

You have to finish Before the Dawn. You don't need to be in a romance with him to get this option.

[ThreeF]

Ok guys, here they are...the rest of Perseverance for the templar couple:

 

It's very impressive how many different lines you get in this conversation alone with Cullen and how well the game is aware of your choices in all his converstions. Is it the same with other characters? I haven't noticed.

 

 Is it romance-related or you actually have to finish Before the Dawn to give him to Cullen?

 

Probably connected to Before the Dawn and Maddox.

[TheRaccoon]

You have to finish Before the Dawn.

 

 

 

Probably connected to Before the Dawn and Maddox.

 

 

 

OK then. So the conclusion is: you don't have to finish Before the Dawn in order judge Samson and trigger Cullen's what if scene. But if you want to send Samson to Cullen, you actually have to complete the quest.

 

 

 

If there had been a tombstone for Cullen in the Fade, what would've been written on it?

 

IMHO one of his greatest fears is betraying those he's sworn to protect, so I'd go with something like "Corruption" or "Faithlessness."

 

I think his deepest fear is to be betrayed by someone he trusts, like Meredith. I can't think of a nice single word though..