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Mel, how goes your templar romance-like it or you meh bout it?

 

I'm not Mel, but I'm gonna butt in here: I'm loving my Cullen romance with a Templar Inquisitor too. It has just the right balance of conflict and sweetness for me, Cullen and the IQ stand on equal ground and challenge each other without apologize for themselves, and all the unique Templar dialogue you get is so good. If I wasn't so invested in my archer for her own character, I would seriously consider making this Templar-mance my canon playthrough now. It def. comes second favorite among all my characters, though.



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I'm not Mel, but I'm gonna butt in here: I'm loving my Cullen romance with a Templar Inquisitor too. It has just the right balance of conflict and sweetness for me, Cullen and the IQ stand on equal ground and challenge each other without apologize for themselves, and all the unique Templar dialogue you get is so good. If I wasn't so invested in my archer for her own character, I would seriously consider making this Templar-mance my canon playthrough now. It def. comes second favorite among all my characters, though.

 

I haven't see all Templar PT video from Mel, so a question: in general, is there much bickering/quarrell with Cullen due to "Templar" things? Or is it more bitter things left unsaid? How is he reacting in general? I'm starting to think that I might want to try that so maybe I won't see Mel's video but still like to be spoiled :lol:

 

EDIT: OOOOOH!

 

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<3 Happy VD everybody!  <3

This one turned out way too perfectly:

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WOW! Well done, it looks like a real cover. 

 

I want that book.  :wub:


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I haven't see all Templar PT video from Mel, so a question: in general, is there much bickering/quarrell with Cullen due to "Templar" things? Or is it more bitter things left unsaid? How is he reacting in general? I'm starting to think that I might want to try that so maybe I won't see Mel's video but still like to be spoiled :lol:

 

I haven't found any bitterness in the romance itself. They say everything that needs to be said, but none of it is bitter. There's that initital disagreement on whether to become a Templar, but Cullen ends up being supportive of the IQ either way, and his lines when you tell him you did it anyway are still very sweet. Otherwise, he's as loving and respectful as with any other class or spec, other than the mage (where he's constantly apologizing for himself instead, but that's for another conversation). I used the word "challenge" there, but I mean it in a positive way. They challenge each other's lazy assumptions, but not in a bickering way - in ways that are respectful, supportive and constructive for both of them.

 

If there is any aspect of bitterness to my own playthrough, it's in the decision to keep him on the lyrium, but that's independent of the IQ's class. You can romance him as a Templar and still choose to support his sobering if you don't want that added weight to your story, and you can still keep him on lyrium without being a Templar if you want the angst, so it's an added side feature rather than something the Templar romance itself brings in. Still, it was the right decision for this particular IQ at the time, and the fact that she keeps her word to him to the end made me even more certain in it (as in, the first line you can tell Cullen immediately after defeating Cory is that you made him a promise and you can now start looking for safer ways for him to  quit the dust -or both of you, if you're a Templar too, which rounds up your Templar romance perfectly in the end).


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WOW! Well done, it looks like a real cover. 
 
I want that book.  :wub:

LOL thanks.

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Look at this...

 

http://momochanners....ernate-universe

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*no I'm not crying, what are you saying???* (Currently having so many sympathy & feeling to Samson & Maddox due to my fanfic project about them..)


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Look at this...

 

http://momochanners....ernate-universe

 

<snip of Samson feels>

 

Well I wasn't planning to cry today, but I guess plans change. :crying:


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True, but sometimes I still think there are issues that should be tried to discuss first before everyone agreeing to stop discussions... Maybe we could find a mutual agreement in the initial discussion. But that's for subject not involving the fandom.

 

I would agree in principle for a topic you don't know is going to be bad, but keeping in mind that there's no consistent definition of "first" here. The GE controversy is perhaps the only new topic we've avoided. Everything else had their "firsts" long ago for the Cullen thread, even if it's the first time a new fan has run across it. Topics with a history of badness are those we avoid.

 

This has all happened before, and it will all happen again. 


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Look at this...

 

http://momochanners....ernate-universe

 

*snippage of Alternate Universe Samson is Awesome feels*

 

Is it just me, or does anyone else wish that we could have had this in the game? It'd have been nice if perhaps that if Hawke had spoken in his defence and asked Cullen to get him reinstated in DA2, Samson could have ended up working alongside us in Inquisition and got some kind of redemption? But if Hawke hadn't done so, he'd have joined up with the Red Templars and continued his downward spiral to villainy?

 

That choice seemed like it should have mattered?


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You know, up til now all AUs & fanarts & fanfics about Cullen-Samson in DA:I only envisage one possibility: either Cullen be "saved" into the Inquisition & Samson got corrupted to Red Templars, or the contrary.

 

IMO, there's enough backbone for an AU story to get both of them saved. Very close to the game's denouement but still Samson got saved. And that can provides lots of stuffs to be explored about Templars & Lyriums. Imagine the discussion between these two...

 

Remember how Cullen tried to find Carroll? I can imagine he tried to find all templars he once knew, trying to save as many as he can. I can imagine him finding Samson nearly joining Cory & confront him, saving him in the end. (especially if siding with templars).The story can be about how Samson's grateful & unhappy at the same time for this since he still believed that for him there's no more redemption due to his physical condition vs lyrium & his contrasted views of magic with DA2 Cullen. Then they got along better or not.

 

I can picture every scenes in my head.


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Look at this...

 

http://momochanners....ernate-universe

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*no I'm not crying, what are you saying???* (Currently having so many sympathy & feeling to Samson & Maddox due to my fanfic project about them..)

All this AU stuff has got me on a Bioshock Infinite train of thought.

 

In another ocean, Cullen would have fallen to the crimson light, while Samson would have risen to be redeemed.



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All this AU stuff has got me on a Bioshock Infinite train of thought.

 

In another ocean, Cullen would have fallen to the crimson light, while Samson would have risen to be redeemed.

 

Well, there's lots of AU fanart, fancomic & fanfics exploring the idea.

 

Across another ocean, we could've got both of them saved. Nearly doomed but saved. And it'll still be a helluva of a harsh story not the fluffy fluffy one. Hmmm... A muse...



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So I had a great day. Turned 32... But it was a good day thought id share that.

Happy Birthday, VampOrchid  :wizard: ! 

 


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This book cover totally reminds me of the article that you posted the other day, the one about women and fanfiction. LOL. Because I would totally read this  :blush: .

 

Shakespeare, Tennesse Williams, Goethe, Ovid... I'm so glad my old professor can't see me now.

 

Happy Valentines day to you all  <3 !



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I agree, I wished that we could have saved Samson in a way gave us him as a rouge instead of Sera. I hated that they went this way with Samson, since Calpernia was a way better character.

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I agree, I wished that we could have saved Samson in a way gave us him as a rouge instead of Sera. I hated that they went this way with Samson, since Calpernia was a way better character.

 

Actually I've been hoping that we can save Samson if we go with the Templars... Like that he's not necessary for the Cory's Vessel stuffs. It provides lots of possible story of him & Cullen.

 

Idk why, I'm just having so many feelings & sympathy about him & Maddox. He might be a villified character but still from what I catch in DA2 there might be a glimpse of a good guy within him. He could've been protagonist. Like Cullen could've been Cory's lituenant (not for the same reasoning in their head). The line is thin indeed IMO. Well, headcannon & AU zone ahoy.


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In my AU, I actually have Cullen and Samson both in the inquisition working together to both of their dismay and amusement. Although, this one has Cullen become a companion and Samson be the one in comand of troops. In fact Cullen is just wanting things to be better for his children that he has with Edna Amell.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else wish that we could have had this in the game? It'd have been nice if perhaps that if Hawke had spoken in his defence and asked Cullen to get him reinstated in DA2, Samson could have ended up working alongside us in Inquisition and got some kind of redemption? But if Hawke hadn't done so, he'd have joined up with the Red Templars and continued his downward spiral to villainy?
 
That choice seemed like it should have mattered?


Choices... mattering... in DAI... hahahahahahah!

:P

Seriously though, that would've been great. Unfortunately I think a LOT of narrative potential (including the impact of carry-over decisions) was discarded in favor of tackling the Frostbite engine and giving us lots of pretty landscapes.

At least we can hope DA4 will handle these things better.
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Yeah, don't make the same mistake I did... Turning Origin online. Banters...  :(

 

There are lots of Cullen-messenger banter that's really adding some taste to the quests, like him looking for Carroll etc.

 

I haven't gotten any more or less banter than before no matter what patch I'm on. I never had much banter to begin with.  :(

 

 

I haven't see all Templar PT video from Mel, so a question: in general, is there much bickering/quarrell with Cullen due to "Templar" things? Or is it more bitter things left unsaid? How is he reacting in general? I'm starting to think that I might want to try that so maybe I won't see Mel's video but still like to be spoiled :lol:

 

 

 

I promise all content will be posted in a playlist - I just need to start playing the game more. I got totally thrown off the rails with Supernatural and Dean's massive amounts of hotness. Castiel is friggen awesome too!

 

So far I've noticed that taking the Templar spec has given me the most unique dialogue, moreso than a mage. The decision to keep him on lyirum (for now) totally fits my playthrough. I love it. I love it so much I want to commission a piece of work for it. Ninetozero pretty much sums it up, even though I believe she said her IQ is kinda the opposite to mine personality-wise. Rhiannon is all about duty and sacrifice. Being a Templar was always on the horizon for her since she was the youngest Trevelyan. She was given a choice - Templar or Sister, and she didn't want to be stuck in a Chantry. Being a natural with a s/s also helped make the decision for her. She was supposed to take her vows after the Conclave, but you all know how that goes. Even after finding out about the addiction issues, she went into it with open eyes and still thought it was the best course of action. She's the IQ and it's her duty. Finding love was just unexpected. She and Cullen only have each other for comfort against the huge tide that is the Inquisition. They help to keep each other grounded and pointed in the right direction. She realized that she needs him (and he needs her) lest the weight of it all come crashing down on top of them. 

 

And to show you guys fontofnothing's texture in action (and in celebration of V-Day), here is the first kiss scene:

 

I really like the texture!


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Actually I've been hoping that we can save Samson if we go with the Templars... Like that he's not necessary for the Cory's Vessel stuffs. It provides lots of possible story of him & Cullen.

 

Idk why, I'm just having so many feelings & sympathy about him & Maddox. He might be a villified character but still from what I catch in DA2 there might be a glimpse of a good guy within him. He could've been protagonist. Like Cullen could've been Cory's lituenant (not for the same reasoning in their head). The line is thin indeed IMO. Well, headcannon & AU zone ahoy.

 

I couldn't disagree more.

 

While I had hoped we could catch Samson on the templar path, I only did so in the hopes of being able to send him off to be judged by the remaining templars like I did with Knight-Captain Denam. And hopefully to suffer the same fate as I want Denam to have.



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Nick Thornborrow (BW concept artist) posted this storyboard for that one scene Bull's where Cullen etc walk in on them. Check out Cullen's precious faces here:

 

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I love the running gag they had with Cullen falling over and rising up each time more awkward bird than the last. I would've laughed even harder at this scene if this had stayed in the game. :lol:


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In my AU, I actually have Cullen and Samson both in the inquisition working together to both of their dismay and amusement. Although, this one has Cullen become a companion and Samson be the one in comand of troops. In fact Cullen is just wanting things to be better for his children that he has with Edna Amell.

 

Please tell me when you publish that! I'd love to see it. It's interesting to see how people percieves Samson's character

 

I couldn't disagree more.

 

While I had hoped we could catch Samson on the templar path, I only did so in the hopes of being able to send him off to be judged by the remaining templars like I did with Knight-Captain Denam. And hopefully to suffer the same fate as I want Denam to have.

 

Nah, from what I see in DA2 there's enough material to make him an interesting protagonist for my world state (probably AU). I'm writing it. Samson-Maddox-Cullen fic pre-DA2, possibly be continued to DA:I if I can work that on. Headcannon ahoy :lol:

 

In any case, Samson's a more interesting antagonist due to his DA2 appearance compared to Denam. Can't compared it to Calpernia tho, I haven't play Templar's PT passing Wicked Eyes.



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I will thought it will be awhile since I am still going on my first part of the AU :)
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Nah, from what I see in DA2 there's enough material to make him an interesting protagonist for my world state (probably AU). I'm writing it. Samson-Maddox-Cullen fic pre-DA2, possibly be continued to DA:I if I can work that on. Headcannon ahoy :lol:

 

You know, I've seen a lot of Samson in recent days... seems he's rising in popularity, lucky guy :lol: I now feel bad I didn't include him in my fic. And he even has a past with Cullen! I guess I never liked him from DA2... and I confess I always saved Alain (MY BABY). Which reminds me; I should write another Alain fic........ :D

 

Anyone including Ser Barris in their fics? I kind of stuck him with Dorian... hope he doesn't mind  :devil: Tis off camera though.

 

Btw, when do we think we'll reach 5K? It's Mardi Gras here, so there are going to be huge chunks of time when I'm not available to post and it would suck if it happened while I'm gone :(



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Double post... :(

 

But something else I wanted to add: Anyone read the letters the elven Warden left on the Storm Coast? I really want to write a fic about that <3 It's a really sweet and kinda naughty story lol 


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You know, I've seen a lot of Samson in recent days... seems he's rising in popularity, lucky guy :lol: I now feel bad I didn't include him in my fic. And he even has a past with Cullen! I guess I never liked him from DA2... and I confess I always saved Alain (MY BABY). Which reminds me; I should write another Alain fic........ :D

 

Anyone including Ser Barris in their fics? I kind of stuck him with Dorian... hope he doesn't mind  :devil: Tis off camera though.

 

Btw, when do we think we'll reach 5K? It's Mardi Gras here, so there are going to be huge chunks of time when I'm not available to post and it would suck if it happened while I'm gone :(

 

Oh that's a good ship idea, Dorian-Ser Barris. Hmmm... Interesting :rolleyes:

Are you going with Tevinter Mage - Templar dynamic like most Cullorian ships?

 

 

We're nearing the 5K but it's quite slow lately. Maybe you can ask someone in advance to post the link of your fic on the 5K pages?

 

About Samson, I personally find that the line between hero & villain is so thin that it can be swapped quite easily. That's not how things represented in game for many people's perception I know, but still it's an interesting idea to explore. If anyone has any fics/works about that (especially from DA:I universe) I'd like to see it.


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