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That Cullen cosplay is glorious and so well designed. wowow.

I don't know them but I am so proud of them. =v=

 

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It's been very quiet in this thread today. Hope everyones' 5k celebration preparations are going well.

 

I just started my next Cully painting and it doesn't look like him yet because I'm laying down values, but I was inspired by the concept of "tame the lion" so this one is going to feature really big hairstuffs~ :rolleyes: I am very excited.

 

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Wow Seph, it's official I'm fangirling you like I'm fangirling therealmcgee :lol:

 

Are you sure this is a WIP? That's already super great!

 

I wondered if, G.E. is going to be a voice in the upcoming D&D game.

 

Also, I did some looking around Skyhold today. Found out Cullen has a Halla Statue on his bookcase and The Inquisitor has one their fireplace mantle. As far as I saw, no one else does.

 

Just found it interesting. Too bad we cannot use these to open more doors.

 

It... opens the door to our heart :wub:

 

lol The vitriol against me is sometimes shocking, but at least there are still friendly people here :) I mean really, I get harassed for not being happy with my lot and finally I am romancing Dorian, only without a sharpie-drawn-mustache, and it's like I've committed some sick atrocity  :rolleyes:

 

Naaaah, Dorian's always Dorian. It's his soul and his snarks and his heart that define him, his moustache only come on the fourth place ;)

 

*hug*


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I like the way Dorian looks both ways! His mustache gives him character, but I also like seeing him without it because I feel like I'm seeing more of him. I like knowing what someone looks like under their facefuzz even if I also like their facefuzz... I don't know if that makes sense. Maybe it's instinctual because I tend to draw a person without facial hair before adding it on, just so I can map out the musculature. .-.

 

Seph (may I call you Seph?), I can't believe this is just a WIP! so so so good.

 

Cosplaying is one of those hobbies that I could never take up myself - just too lazy and impatient - but I love seeing others do it and have mad respect.

 

Haha sure! No need to be formal with me, we're buds after all :P

And thanks so much ;-; There are inconsistencies with the way his face is lighted and his facial features aren't positioned accurately yet, so hopefully I'll be able to smooth everything out before I try to color it. Glad you think it looks good, though!

 

And yeah, I'm not so into cosplay either (would rather draw myself dressing up than actually do the dressing up because yeah, lazy irl :rolleyes: ) but it sure is amazing seeing how much effort goes into other peoples' costumes.

 

Wow Seph, it's official I'm fangirling you like I'm fangirling therealmcgee :lol:

 

Are you sure this is a WIP? That's already super great!

 

Aw man I am nowhere near worthy of being put on the same level as Kels, but thank you for the encouraging words ;v; Her grasp of lighting and colors is just phenomenal. sigh

 

And yeah, I'd really like to add a lot more detail to his hair and 'mane' and make his face look as much like him as possible, so I still have a ways to go haha xD Hope I don't mess up rendering in the middle like in my last painting where my end result looked worse than the actual WIP version, LOL.



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Naaaah, Dorian's always Dorian. It's his soul and his snarks and his heart that define him, his moustache only come on the fourth place ;)

 

*hug*

 

^_^ And hopefully his quest will fire for me this go-round :( Even if my first inquisitor didn't get on with him, I still feel jilted for not getting to experience his quest. I mean *I* like him even if my inquisitor didn't. And Kael definitely likes him ;) Though it has been hard avoiding Cass-flirts lol Oh, and I was wandering around Skyhold (just got there) and found myself behind the inn and realized, aww, this is where Bull and I used to make out... shocking myself with nostalgia for the Bull-mance :lol:

 

But to keep this Cullen-related... I was noticing, marathoning the game as I have been on my day off, just how much more contact you get with Cullen (not just the advisors but him specifically), and this is mostly during In Your Heart Shall Burn. I really think, as fans of Cullen, we lucked out. Our favorite character got some of the most scenes in the game, and they are some kick arse scenes, too. I love how he just takes charge of the situation... our dear boy has grown! *wipes tear* I mean at Kirkwall he was such a subordinate (as he should be! It was his place) and it was always Knight-Commander this and Knight-Commander that, until he finally stood up to her (which is not say he never showed initiate, ahem, Wilmod). Now he immediately sees the threat and goes into action. Even when hope seems lost, he says that at least they get to fight before they die. He never loses himself. He stays strong. It's very impressive. (And not in an unbelievable "I'm so perfect" Marty Stu way. This character has suffered and grown to get here.)

 

I like the way Dorian looks both ways! His mustache gives him character, but I also like seeing him without it because I feel like I'm seeing more of him. I like knowing what someone looks like under their facefuzz even if I also like their facefuzz... I don't know if that makes sense. Maybe it's instinctual because I tend to draw a person without facial hair before adding it on, just so I can map out the musculature. .-.

 

Yeah I've seen the Blackwall-sans-beard mod and it's definitely not for me, BUT it is interesting to see the contours of his jaw line! 


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He's the khajiit in Winterhold as well as the mage you can hire at the Bee and Barb (is that the right name? The inn in Riften?) Also it is fatally hard to type right now as my fingers are frozen from standing outside for an hour and watching the parade.

"J'zargo only has  so much room to carry things."  LOL :P


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@Sephirona

I think you are underestimating your skills. What I really like about your drawings is the looseness. The lines flow naturally, and your characters look relaxed. I wish I could get that right. My characters always look a little stiff. I guess I need to attend life drawing classes again :)
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He's beautiful!  :wub:

 

 

So here's Dorian-sans-mustache, in case anyone was interested; he looks about 22 and is pretty cute:

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I love Dorian without his mustache.  :)

 

I romanced Cullen my first game, Cass my second game, and now I'm romancing Dorian in my third game. 


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But to keep this Cullen-related... I was noticing, marathoning the game as I have been on my day off, just how much more contact you get with Cullen (not just the advisors but him specifically), and this is mostly during In Your Heart Shall Burn. I really think, as fans of Cullen, we lucked out. Our favorite character got some of the most scenes in the game, and they are some kick arse scenes, too. I love how he just takes charge of the situation... our dear boy has grown! *wipes tear* I mean at Kirkwall he was such a subordinate (as he should be! It was his place) and it was always Knight-Commander this and Knight-Commander that, until he finally stood up to her (which is not say he never showed initiate, ahem, Wilmod). Now he immediately sees the threat and goes into action. Even when hope seems lost, he says that at least they get to fight before they die. He never loses himself. He stays strong. It's very impressive. (And not in an unbelievable "I'm so perfect" Marty Stu way. This character has suffered and grown to get here.)

Hear, hear! We definitely got lucky. Esp for someone whose LI arc was added so late. I'd like to think, cosmically, it's our reward for good behavior. :P


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I like the way Dorian looks both ways! His mustache gives him character, but I also like seeing him without it because I feel like I'm seeing more of him. I like knowing what someone looks like under their facefuzz even if I also like their facefuzz... I don't know if that makes sense. Maybe it's instinctual because I tend to draw a person without facial hair before adding it on, just so I can map out the musculature. .-.

 

 

Haha sure! No need to be formal with me, we're buds after all :P

And thanks so much ;-; There are inconsistencies with the way his face is lighted and his facial features aren't positioned accurately yet, so hopefully I'll be able to smooth everything out before I try to color it. Glad you think it looks good, though!

 

And yeah, I'm not so into cosplay either (would rather draw myself dressing up than actually do the dressing up because yeah, lazy irl :rolleyes: ) but it sure is amazing seeing how much effort goes into other peoples' costumes.

 

 

Aw man I am nowhere near worthy of being put on the same level as Kels, but thank you for the encouraging words ;v; Her grasp of lighting and colors is just phenomenal. sigh

 

And yeah, I'd really like to add a lot more detail to his hair and 'mane' and make his face look as much like him as possible, so I still have a ways to go haha xD Hope I don't mess up rendering in the middle like in my last painting where my end result looked worse than the actual WIP version, LOL.

 

@Sephirona

I think you are underestimating your skills. What I really like about your drawings is the looseness. The lines flow naturally, and your characters look relaxed. I wish I could get that right. My characters always look a little stiff. I guess I need to attend life drawing classes again :)

 

@Seph: Tesh is right, you are underestimating your skills IMO. I can't say what I really like about your drawings except that it's amazing, that's all.

 

Anyway about colour & lighting, someone asked mcgee (that's who you call Kels?) once about that. This is her answer:

 

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^_^ And hopefully his quest will fire for me this go-round :( Even if my first inquisitor didn't get on with him, I still feel jilted for not getting to experience his quest. I mean *I* like him even if my inquisitor didn't. And Kael definitely likes him ;) Though it has been hard avoiding Cass-flirts lol Oh, and I was wandering around Skyhold (just got there) and found myself behind the inn and realized, aww, this is where Bull and I used to make out... shocking myself with nostalgia for the Bull-mance :lol:

 

But to keep this Cullen-related... I was noticing, marathoning the game as I have been on my day off, just how much more contact you get with Cullen (not just the advisors but him specifically), and this is mostly during In Your Heart Shall Burn. I really think, as fans of Cullen, we lucked out. Our favorite character got some of the most scenes in the game, and they are some kick arse scenes, too. I love how he just takes charge of the situation... our dear boy has grown! *wipes tear* I mean at Kirkwall he was such a subordinate (as he should be! It was his place) and it was always Knight-Commander this and Knight-Commander that, until he finally stood up to her (which is not say he never showed initiate, ahem, Wilmod). Now he immediately sees the threat and goes into action. Even when hope seems lost, he says that at least they get to fight before they die. He never loses himself. He stays strong. It's very impressive. (And not in an unbelievable "I'm so perfect" Marty Stu way. This character has suffered and grown to get here.)

 

 

Yeah I've seen the Blackwall-sans-beard mod and it's definitely not for me, BUT it is interesting to see the contours of his jaw line! 

 

Nah, just make sure that you keep some convo left with Dorian for after arriving at SKyhold. You can get Dorian bug if you've exhausted everything before skyhold.


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I spoke about this-briefly in pages past, today I some how remembered it.

 

During The "siege" on Samson's Stronghold, your character finds a letter Samson left for Cullen.

 

I have recorded the encounter:

 

 

 

 

The reason I have done so is because I know Cullen's response to the letter changes. The dialogue he says in my video is do to Cullen NOT being on lyrium and after smexy time.

 

Thus I thought if those willing and have the ability to record could share "their" Cullen responses. For "science" of course.

 

I am rather curious how many different responses there are and what they are.

 

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@Sephirona

I think you are underestimating your skills. What I really like about your drawings is the looseness. The lines flow naturally, and your characters look relaxed. I wish I could get that right. My characters always look a little stiff. I guess I need to attend life drawing classes again :)

 

Thanks for the insightful comments, I hadn't really thought of my art in that way before! From what I've seen of your portraits so far they're lovely and full of intrigue - they don't strike me as stiff at all. I suppose the curse of the artist is to never truly be satisfied with what we create, haha xD I look at my paintings and all I see are the spots I had a hard time with because I didn't know how to draw/color something properly. I definitely need more practice as well. Shadows confuse me. >_> <_<

 

Thank you, Cullen, for being a continuous source of inspiration. :U


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lol The vitriol against me is sometimes shocking, but at least there are still friendly people here :) I mean really, I get harassed for not being happy with my lot and finally I am romancing Dorian, only without a sharpie-drawn-mustache, and it's like I've committed some sick atrocity  :rolleyes:

XD For me it is just a shock, but to each their own. I think I find his lips to look like snakeskin without the stache but then again I find his lips odd with the stache. The same for his nose but they are more unique then ugly. Lol, his stache is very fake looking imo and I actually don't prefer all that much facial hair in RL so eh. I think I would like the mod better if they kept the little facial hair below his lip.



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XD For me it is just a shock, but to each their own. I think I find his lips to look like snakeskin without the stache but then again I find his lips odd with the stache. The same for his nose but they are more unique then ugly. Lol, his stache is very fake looking imo and I actually don't prefer all that much facial hair in RL so eh. I think I would like the mod better if they kept the little facial hair below his lip.

 

I don't think he (the modder) was able to do that. It was all or nothing with Mr. Pavus lol I asked for some stubble and was told that wasn't possible just yet. Modding is in early stages yet. I'm just grateful modders are out there, experimenting, and making their efforts available to ignorant slubs like me.

 

EDIT: to say that I've seen a brunet Cullen, and tbh, I was tempted :lol: He was hawt! I like brunets... way more than blonds :P


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I don't think he (the modder) was able to do that. It was all or nothing with Mr. Pavus lol I asked for some stubble and was told that wasn't possible just yet. Modding is in early stages yet. I'm just grateful modders are out there, experimenting, and making their efforts available to ignorant slubs like me.

 

EDIT: to say that I've seen a brunet Cullen, and tbh, I was tempted :lol: He was hawt! I like brunets... way more than blonds :P

Aww, well, that's a shame. Hopefully they are able to advance the modding in the near future and make less shocking transformations that I will still probably never use.

 

Nope, nope, nope, nope, and nope. I shall not touch that! Lol, and hey now I feel a bit self-conscious. *strokes blonde locks*



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The reason I have done so is because I know Cullen's response to the letter changes. The dialogue he says in my video is do to Cullen NOT being on lyrium and after smexy time.

 

Thus I thought if those willing and have the ability to record could share "their" Cullen responses. For "science" of course.

 

I am rather curious how many different responses there are and what they are.

 

Unfortunately for this exercise in science, my playthrough where I kept Cullen on lyrium went Templar-side too, so I can't help with that check. I think Mel still went mage-side with her Templar, so maybe she can record this to see if there's any difference?

 

I only have one playthrough where I've gone mage-side, and I suppose I could put Cullen back on lyrium on this character too for science to see if there's any difference from on lyrium + romanced to on lyrium + not romanced... but it will take a while to get this far on that character, so maybe someone else who has more mage-siding pts can come up with the comparison faster. If not, I'll get around to it in a week or so.


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Thanks for the insightful comments, I hadn't really thought of my art in that way before! From what I've seen of your portraits so far they're lovely and full of intrigue - they don't strike me as stiff at all. I suppose the curse of the artist is to never truly be satisfied with what we create, haha xD I look at my paintings and all I see are the spots I had a hard time with because I didn't know how to draw/color something properly. I definitely need more practice as well. Shadows confuse me. >_> <_<

 

Thank you, Cullen, for being a continuous source of inspiration. :U

 

You're too kind :) And you are absolutely right - we can never be satisfied with our work. I finished Cullen's portrait for the 5k celebration yesterday, and am still struggling against the desire to make more adjustments :)

 

As for shadows, there are some general rules I follow: if the light source is warm, shadows will be cold, and vice-versa. Saturated colours will produce a more dramatic effect when used in shadows. And for my personal shortcoming: it probably needs to be even darker :P I have a hard time reaching the darker tones. Thank heavens for John Knoll thinking of including Multiply as a layer effect in PS :D


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Unfortunately for this exercise in science, my playthrough where I kept Cullen on lyrium went Templar-side too, so I can't help with that check. I think Mel still went mage-side with her Templar, so maybe she can record this to see if there's any difference?

 

I only have one playthrough where I've gone mage-side, and I suppose I could put Cullen back on lyrium on this character too for science to see if there's any difference from on lyrium + romanced to on lyrium + not romanced... but it will take a while to get this far on that character, so maybe someone else who has more mage-siding pts can come up with the comparison faster. If not, I'll get around to it in a week or so.

Sorry I should have been a bit more clear.

 

Does not not matter what you choose. It may have an effect on what Cullen says.

 

My play-through was what I said not what people should post, also more of a way of saying, this is what I did in this video to get Cullen to say this sentence, thus let us see what other paths people take lead him to say something else.



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Unfortunately for this exercise in science, my playthrough where I kept Cullen on lyrium went Templar-side too, so I can't help with that check. I think Mel still went mage-side with her Templar, so maybe she can record this to see if there's any difference?

 

I only have one playthrough where I've gone mage-side, and I suppose I could put Cullen back on lyrium on this character too for science to see if there's any difference from on lyrium + romanced to on lyrium + not romanced... but it will take a while to get this far on that character, so maybe someone else who has more mage-siding pts can come up with the comparison faster. If not, I'll get around to it in a week or so.

I'm currently at the near end of my mage PT who is romancing Cullen who isn't on lyrium and has yet to do sexy times. I'm saving that before I do the Arbor Wilds...unless you can have that scene after the Arbor Wilds? Anyway I'm playing on the PS4 and I believe that records in 1080p so I could record, but I'm having issues with my internet so I may not be of much use.



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I'm currently at the near end of my mage PT who is romancing Cullen who isn't on lyrium and has yet to do sexy times. I'm saving that before I do the Arbor Wilds...unless you can have that scene after the Arbor Wilds? Anyway I'm playing on the PS4 and I believe that records in 1080p so I could record, but I'm having issues with my internet so I may not be of much use.

 

I dunno never waited that far into the game. I do know that as soon as you open Cullen's door, the cut scene for smexy time will trigger. If you sided with the Mages...you'll have to do Cullen's "Before the Dawn" till after smexy time.



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I dunno never waited that far into the game. I do know that as soon as you open Cullen's door, the cut scene for smexy time will trigger. If you sided with the Mages...you'll have to do Cullen's "Before the Dawn" till after smexy time.

Yeah, I am aware at how sudden the scene is. XD I still have quite a few areas to explore and then I think enough time will have passed for their relationship to be at that point, at least for my mage.



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Yeah, I am aware at how sudden the scene is. XD I still have quite a few areas to explore and then I think enough time will have passed for their relationship to be at that point, at least for my mage.

 

Don't forget your character will have plenty of areas to explore....on Cullen. :P



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Unfortunately for this exercise in science, my playthrough where I kept Cullen on lyrium went Templar-side too, so I can't help with that check. I think Mel still went mage-side with her Templar, so maybe she can record this to see if there's any difference?

 

I only have one playthrough where I've gone mage-side, and I suppose I could put Cullen back on lyrium on this character too for science to see if there's any difference from on lyrium + romanced to on lyrium + not romanced... but it will take a while to get this far on that character, so maybe someone else who has more mage-siding pts can come up with the comparison faster. If not, I'll get around to it in a week or so.

 

I did go mage-side and I will record it!


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Sorry I should have been a bit more clear.

 

Does not not matter what you choose. It may have an effect on what Cullen says.

 

My play-through was what I said not what people should post, also more of a way of saying, this is what I did in this video to get Cullen to say this sentence, thus let us see what other paths people take lead him to say something else.

 

It's okay, I don't mind testing this stuff just for the sake of testing. :) And since this is my last attempt to finish a playthrough going mage-side lest I just give up entirely, 'tis also my last chance to test everything I can on this side in one run.

 

Anyway, this character keeps a neutral professional distance from Cullen as it is, so it's easy to roleplay her keeping him on lyrium as a detached, professional compromise. It sounds like an interesting thing to test, in any case, whether Cullen responds to the Samson quest differently at all if he's still on lyrium too. He should at least skip that dreadful "he had choices" line... hopefully. We shall see if it changes his reaction to Samson's letters too.

 

eta: ah, ninja'd by Mel. :P Well, I shall test the on lyrium + not romanced version, anyway. For science!


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Don't forget your character will have plenty of areas to explore....on Cullen. :P

O_O And he on her...literally now that I think how that desk scene went. 

 

Lol, I will only say this once and if you guys ever say that I said this, well, I will deny it; but I love being surrounded by all you perverted minded people!


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O_O And he on her...literally now that I think how that desk scene went. 

 

Lol, I will only say this once and if you guys ever say that I said this, well, I will deny it; but I love being surrounded by all you perverted minded people!

 

pressing "print screen"   :lol:



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O_O And he on her...literally now that I think how that desk scene went. 

 

Lol, I will only say this once and if you guys ever say that I said this, well, I will deny it; but I love being surrounded by all you perverted minded people!

 

I love you all, perverted minded people!

 

Have a the summary of Greendelle's sketchbook.

 

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http://greendelle.tu...-in-one-picture


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