Mine was the second one. She was aware, but was shy. Her reaction was "Oh, that's flattering. It couldn't hurt to talk."
Oh, my Surana was neither shy nor particularly innocent, but she was kind. And she actually admired him for not taking advantage of his position.
I've seen Cullen cast Blessed Blades but not all of the abilities.
Hmm.
I wonder if this is do to him being on/off lyrium.
Maybe those who chose for Cullen to keep off lyrium do not see him use the abilities because of that choice.
And those who chose to keep him on lyrium do see it.
I wonder if this is do to him being on/off lyrium.
Don't think it's related to that choice... the run where I saw him using the Templar abilities at the Temple had him off the lyrium too.
Maybe it just didn't trigger in your game? NPC combat AI and ability usage is pretty inconsistent even for the followers you can control. For those you can't, it's just dumb luck whether they'll work - Leliana is another NPC who sometimes will be on point in the Pride demon fight on the tutorial level, and sometimes will spend the whole fight standing around or shooting at nothing.
Don't think it's related to that choice... the run where I saw him using the Templar abilities at the Temple had him off the lyrium too.
Maybe it just didn't trigger in your game? NPC combat AI and ability usage is pretty inconsistent even for the followers you can control. For those you can't, it's just dumb luck whether they'll work - Leliana is another NPC who sometimes will be on point in the Pride demon fight on the tutorial level, and sometimes will spend the whole fight standing around or shooting at nothing.
Well when I arrive at that point. I'll do some experimenting. For science! 
Don't think it's related to that choice... the run where I saw him using the Templar abilities at the Temple had him off the lyrium too.
Maybe it just didn't trigger in your game? NPC combat AI and ability usage is pretty inconsistent even for the followers you can control. For those you can't, it's just dumb luck whether they'll work - Leliana is another NPC who sometimes will be on point in the Pride demon fight on the tutorial level, and sometimes will spend the whole fight standing around or shooting at nothing.
Yeah, I'll be going to the Temple of Dumat soon and I will pay more attention to what he's doing. I just haven't seen him cast the coolest looking abilities.
Oh, my Surana was neither shy nor particularly innocent, but she was kind. And she actually admired him for not taking advantage of his position.
I like Cullen doesn't run away in DA: I, though that would've been amusing.
Yeah, I'll be going to the Temple of Dumat soon and I will pay more attention to what he's doing. I just haven't seen him cast the coolest looking abilities.
Bring me back a T-shirt! 
I like Cullen doesn't run away in DA: I, though that would've been amusing.
Amusing, maybe, but I'd be side-eyeing someone still reacting that way in his 30s. My Surana would completely go for him in DAI (especially since he's no longer a Templar.)
So I guess this is apropos of this discussion. Those who haven't played a warrior in DAI yet, or haven't done the Way of the Templar spec quest, may not haven seen this horripilant codex entry describing in detail how a Templar is initiated on lyrium (or at least the account of one initiation, we don't know that they're always this skin-crawling terrifying):
Spoiler
Nightmares forever imagining cuties like Cullen, Alistair, Carver, Barris, Keran, Lysette and Belinda going through this stuff.
...and grateful my own Templar Inquisitor didn't have to go this, too.
Damn. Sounds like a direct infusion of power. Very interesting. I had assumed that the initiation would have consisted of simply drinking the stuff from the goblet, similar to what Barris does in Champions of the Just. I suppose, however, that the first time, you need to have a much, much stronger infusion into the body to really make it stick and gain the powers of a Templar. And once you have it, you are constantly filled with a hunger that can never truly be sated.
Edit: Also, I suppose, there might be more than one method to undergo the power bestowal.
King Alistair arrives at Skyhold to meet with the Inquisition, not expecting to encounter a certain former Templar he hasn't seen since the abominations took over Kinloch Hold 10 years ago. It turns out the memory of Solona Amell haunts them both. Some feels and angst mixed with humor and an uplifting ending!
In this story, Amell died in the Ultimate Sacrifice and King Alistair rules alone. Featuring Cullen, of course.
http://archiveofouro...g/works/3418373
There is one difference. Mages don't have a choice. Templars do, even if they aren't given "full disclosure." So I feel for them, but I don't think it's equivalent.
Well, comparing their sufferings to see which one is the most miserable between the two's rather pointless IMO. My point is that when mages' suffering is quite explored & rather vocal (they do complain a lot about it), Templar's suffering are rather endured in silence. Except for Samson's rants, I don't see them complaining a lot.
Mages don't have choice, but Templars made the choice to endure the suffering in silence. I'd even put my sympathy a bit more with them actually. They know that their life will basically be a sacrifice, but the job need to be done. So they do it. Without complain. Templars (some at least) choose to be there, choose to endure the it. Mages endure the suffering because they don't have much choices. Templar choose the sacrifice.
Well, comparing their sufferings to see which one is the most miserable between the two's rather pointless IMO. My point is that when mages' suffering is quite explored & rather vocal (they do complain a lot about it), Templar's suffering are rather endured in silence. Except for Samson's rants, I don't see them complaining a lot.
Mages don't have choice, but Templars made the choice to endure the suffering in silence. I'd even put my sympathy a bit more with them actually. They know that their life will basically be a sacrifice, but the job need to be done. So they do it. Without complain. Templars (some at least) choose to be there, choose to endure the it. Mages endure the suffering because they don't have much choices. Templar choose the sacrifice.
I would argue that we don't have enough data on Templars to actually make that argument though. We have had a total of 10 mages as companions with zero Templar companions (former recruits don't count).
For all we know, they could easily complain a lot. We simply have not been exposed to them enough.
I would argue that we don't have enough data on Templars to actually make that argument though. We have had a total of 10 mages as companions with zero Templar companions (former recruits don't count).
For all we know, they could easily complain a lot. We simply have not been exposed to them enough.
Except Cass does specifically mentions the mages have made their suffering known while the Templars never have. One thing with Cass, she isn't a liar so I think it's safe to believe her on it.
Except Cass does specifically mentions the mages have made their suffering known while the Templars never have. One thing with Cass, she isn't a liar so I think it's safe to believe her on it.
But Cass isn't a Templar though. I still don't consider that enough to data to speak for all Templars. Cass is just one person, one that was never even a Templar.
I would argue that we don't have enough data on Templars to actually make that argument though. We have had a total of 10 mages as companions with zero Templar companions (former recruits don't count).
For all we know, they could easily complain a lot. We simply have not been exposed to them enough.
Agreed. And I'd argue the cases of abuse by Templars against mages to be be their way of taking revenge for what they go through "to let their suffering be known" (and I'm not sure it's so much sure Templars are silent so much as isolated from people outside the circles.) There are good templars and bad templars, good mages and bad mages; just as not all templars were abusive, not every mage fought the circles or became a blood mage/abomination. Mages are abused for simply existing; Templars make a choice. So I have sympathy for the good Templars, but not at the same level.
But Cass isn't a Templar though. I still don't consider that enough to data to speak for all Templars. Cass is just one person, one that was never even a Templar.
Hmm, interesting. I'd assume that since Cass is a Seeker it's her job to know such thing. Seeker watch the Templar & Mages, remember? Watching for corruptions etc. I'd assume that understanding their popular mindset is part of her job.
Agreed. And I'd argue the cases of abuse by Templars against mages to be be their way of taking revenge for what they go through "to let their suffering be known" (and I'm not sure it's so much sure Templars are silent so much as isolated from people outside the circles.) There are good templars and bad templars, good mages and bad mages; just as not all templars were abusive, not every mage fought the circles or became a blood mage/abomination. Mages are abused for simply existing; Templars make a choice. So I have sympathy for the good Templars, but not at the same level.
That's one way to see things. Making their suffering known through hurting their charges?
Well... I wonder how many Templars really do that. There are several exceptionally bad Templars (Ser Alrik for example) that enjoy torturing mages etc. But is the general attitude of the Templar reflect this?
Hmm, interesting. I'd assume that since Cass is a Seeker it's her job to know such thing. Seeker watch the Templar & Mages, remember? Watching for corruptions etc. I'd assume that understanding their popular mindset is part of her job.
Not necessarily though, especially considering Lambert was in charge for God knows how long. Even Cass says at one point that they should have been looking harder at the abuses.
Well... I wonder how many Templars really do that. There are several exceptionally bad Templars (Ser Alrik for example) that enjoy torturing mages etc. But is the general attitude of the Templar reflect this?
It honestly depends, I would say. But the White Spire sure as hell had its issues as well. Look at Cole. That's one big example right there.
Again though, we really have no measure of data to really make any strong claims, other than what we have seen in the game or tertiary media. And through those, we have encountered 3 out of 14-15 Circles in White Thedas (4 if you wanna count the Starkhaven bunch in DA2).
But Cass isn't a Templar though. I still don't consider that enough to data to speak for all Templars. Cass is just one person, one that was never even a Templar.
She's not saying no Templar has ever complained about it, she's saying Templars on the whole haven't. Most people are aware at least on some level of the plight of the mages because they have been super vocal about it. Most people don't have the vaguest idea that Templars also suffer.
Well... I wonder how many Templars really do that. There are several exceptionally bad Templars (Ser Alrik for example) that enjoy torturing mages etc. But is the general attitude of the Templar reflect this?
I totally could see some Templars blaming mages for what they have to endure because if mages didn't exist then they wouldn't have to do it. And that absolutely can come out as abuse. I think there are also some Templars who just like having power over others and anything they can do to make themselves feel more powerful they will. There are probably a lot of reasons for the abuses, but I think those two cover most.
Not necessarily though, especially considering Lambert was in charge for God knows how long. Even Cass says at one point that they should have been looking harder at the abuses.
Theoretically ain't them the "Watcher"? Like there are bad Templars & bad Mages, there are bad Seekers...
Well, I don't think that there's point of arguing more of who's the most miserable among all... My sympathy to all 
Bring me back a T-shirt!
Now I want an "I went to the Temple of Dumat and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" from the Bioware store.
Theoretically ain't them the "Watcher"? Like there are bad Templars & bad Mages, there are bad Seekers...
Well, I don't think that there's point of arguing more of who's the most miserable among all... My sympathy to all
Ok, I think I'm misspeaking. I'm not trying to point fingers at who really has it worse. I guess my main point is simply that the system has some major power imbalances within it that have got to be corrected, otherwise we're gonna be at war again in no time.
I tend to believe you only see the tip of the iceberg on acknowledged abuses, particularly in a system set up to encourage them. And part of Cass's personal quest involves her discovering the Seekers' culpability in some of what's going on.
I think my point is actually that comparing Templars and mages is comparing apples and beets. The circumstances and reasons for what they go through is entirely different. But unless you buy Vivienne's questionably rosy picture of life in a circle which seems to have little resemblance to Kinloch, Kirkwall, and the little we know about Starkhaven, I know I would fight tooth and nail to escape a mage circle. Though I suppose her description had some resemblance to the one in, was it Rivain? Just before they were annulled for not staying confined to their tower...
Well it depends on what you are seeking.
AFAIK:
T1 and T2 mats can only be purchased from certain vendors. T3 and T4 materials need to be collected.
Any idea what you are looking for, hun?
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Could point you in a direction to help
Aw man. Pfft. Complicated. I thought you could get some perk that put them in a store in Skyhold or something. Ugh. I freaking hate crafting. So that's way too much effort to go searching since I don't even know what I want. Ah well.What crafting materials are you looking for?
You can buy silk, cotton etc from a vendor in Val royaux. Some T2s from merchants in Skyhold. T3 & T4 I never saw them sold...
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