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Alright guys, who's on twitter? I made a whole new set of social media account (skype, mail, etc) for gaming purpose to separate from my RL accounts :rolleyes:

Might as well go for twitter (finally, I'll try to stick with this thing)

 

The only social media I post on (aside from screenshots on Tumblr) is Facebook, but that has no gaming stuff on it. I don't understand the point of Twitter, and perhaps I never will.  :lol:

 

Wow that's beautiful! Rhiannon's the best looking one among your quizzies :)

Thank you! I can't wait to create my Reaver...I think she will be just as stunning!

 

That's awesome! She's really pretty.  :wub:

Thanks!

 

I haven't played as a dwarf or quanari yet and not sure that I will because the romances are a bit more limited. And plus being an elf provides oodles more story dialogue. What about them did you like?

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I honestly didn't notice any more extra dialogue with an elf than with a human.

 

Partly it goes back to DAO - the dwarven origins were two of my three favorites (my favorite was city elf, but that's not an option in DAI.) The Dalish in DAO didn't really impress me, especially once I played a city elf warden and I found out how they treated her. The two groups of elves are very different; I'd have loved a city elf IQ, but I assume Solas was the reason they wanted all elven IQs to be Dalish. I could far more easily see a city elf in a romance with Cullen than a Dalish - a Dalish essentially gives up being Dalish if she wants to stay with him. And I like playing PCs who take me completely outside my own life and experience (it's why I like fantasy games) so I rarely ever play a human in a fantasy game unless I find something particularly interesting about them (there are hundreds of non-fantasy games where I can play humans). To me, the Trevelyan background is just rather generic human noble (lots of scope for headcannoning background, but no more so than for the others.)

 

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I know it's a matter of personal opinion, but I believe playing any race (including human) takes me out of my own life and experience. I haven't played a human PC yet (in any game) that is who I am or could be irl. The fact that it is a fantasy game is what brings it outside the realm of real-life experience. If they had an "enter generic middle-class pc here" origin story for the human race, then I'd say yeah that's boring. But, I have no idea what it's like to be a noble, so that's definitely outside my own realm of experience. I prefer playing humans, for the most part, because they are the most appealing to me visually. 


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#125252
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Oh, so those still show up if you turn off the icons? Good to know. I rather like the warnings because I've found in DAO and SWtOR that I frequently interpret what the response will be from the text quite differently than the actual words that end up coming out. I'm guessing they've made those persistent because of the complaints about ninja-mancing, particularly in DA2.

 

With all the supposed issues of ninja-mancing, it never happened to me once in any game. I think I had Leliana almost in a romance once, but it was pretty obvious what to choose when I got the "I think of you as a friend" option. With DA:O, you could also very easily see an active romance by looking at the approval scale. I don't remember how it worked in DA:2, but I don't remember accidentally activating any romances. 



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With all the supposed issues of ninja-mancing, it never happened to me once in any game. I think I had Leliana almost in a romance once, but it was pretty obvious what to choose when I got the "I think of you as a friend" option. With DA:O, you could also very easily see an active romance by looking at the approval scale. I don't remember how it worked in DA:2, but I don't remember accidentally activating any romances. 

 

IIRC, in DA:O the approval bar also has a tag, like "Love", "Friendly", "Neutral", "Interested" etc. Normally all available LI will be at "Interested" once the approval meter go quite high no? Maybe it's just me who sucks at things like that but everytime I got ninja-manced by Leliana & either Alistair or Morrigan (depend on girl/guy PT). I always managed to activate the flag somehow & they non-intended LI will give the "jealous" convo at one point.

 

At DA2 I got ninja-manced by Merrill once (I was doing Fenris' romance) just because I flirt with her one single time in Act 1, then she came to Hawke mansion & start all the romance convo. I must turn her down to stop that at it... :(



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With all the supposed issues of ninja-mancing, it never happened to me once in any game. I think I had Leliana almost in a romance once, but it was pretty obvious what to choose when I got the "I think of you as a friend" option. With DA:O, you could also very easily see an active romance by looking at the approval scale. I don't remember how it worked in DA:2, but I don't remember accidentally activating any romances. 

 

IIRC, in DA:O the approval bar also has a tag, like "Love", "Friendly", "Neutral", "Interested" etc. Normally all available LI will be at "Interested" once the approval meter go quite high no? Maybe it's just me who sucks at things like that but everytime I got ninja-manced by Leliana & either Alistair or Morrigan (depend on girl/guy PT). I always managed to activate the flag somehow & they non-intended LI will give the "jealous" convo at one point.

 

At DA2 I got ninja-manced by Merrill once (I was doing Fenris' romance) just because I flirt with her one single time in Act 1, then she came to Hawke mansion & start all the romance convo. I must turn her down to stop that at it... :(

Well, yes, AFTER you chose answers you could look at their approval and reload if you'd accidentally chosen a flirt without knowing it (I preferred never to accidentally start one and have to back out with "just a friend", so I consider accidental flirts as ninjamances too) but some of the text choices were not obviously flirts/romance initiators. I never saw it as a big deal, just had to reload the game. However, there was at least one occasion that one of my human nobles was ninjamanced by Leliana. Her approval never showed as anything besides friendly, but after the Landsmeet, I got the "I'm heartbroken, but I'm here for both of you" speech, definitely a wtf moment, lol. I reloaded to just before the fight with Loghain, still showed friendly. I reloaded to just before the conversation and checked, still showed friendly. Re-triggered the post-Landsmeet conversation with her in camp - broken hearted again. I just laughed it off as a bug.

 

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I know it's a matter of personal opinion, but I believe playing any race (including human) takes me out of my own life and experience. I haven't played a human PC yet (in any game) that is who I am or could be irl. The fact that it is a fantasy game is what brings it outside the realm of real-life experience. If they had an "enter generic middle-class pc here" origin story for the human race, then I'd say yeah that's boring. But, I have no idea what it's like to be a noble, so that's definitely outside my own realm of experience. I prefer playing humans, for the most part, because they are the most appealing to me visually. 

Oh, no question, it obviously fits a lot of people very well, just not me. That's why I phrased it that way in answer to her question about my preference. It's really the "generic" part that left me feeling blah on the idea, plus the fact they've used human noble in both of the previous games (even the human mages were born to noble families.) I can (and have) read people's real life experiences as nobles, so it doesn't take me, personally, that much outside myself. Visually appealing is very important, and probably the most subjective. I just find a broad range of appearances appealing, and the more unconventional in appearance, the better ("too short/too tall," "too heavy" by "real" world standards.) The two human nobles I created in DAO in order to become Alistair's queen had facial tattoos (my way of rebelling, lol.)



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At DA2 I got ninja-manced by Merrill once (I was doing Fenris' romance) just because I flirt with her one single time in Act 1, then she came to Hawke mansion & start all the romance convo. I must turn her down to stop that at it... :(

 

Ah Merrill - the one character I couldn't stand to be in the same room with. I never chose a flirt option with her simply for that reason.

 

In regards to the flirts, weren't they kinda obvious in DA:2, with a yellow heart or something? Or could you turn those off?



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*snip*

 

Oh, no question, it obviously fits a lot of people very well, just not me. That's why I phrased it that way in answer to her question about my preference. It's really the "generic" part that left me feeling blah on the idea, plus the fact they've used human noble in both of the previous games (even the human mages were born to noble families.) I can (and have) read people's real life experiences as nobles, so it doesn't take me, personally, that much outside myself. Visually appealing is very important, and probably the most subjective. I just find a broad range of appearances appealing, and the more unconventional in appearance, the better ("too short/too tall," "too heavy" by "real" world standards.) The two human nobles I created in DAO in order to become Alistair's queen had facial tattoos (my way of rebelling, lol.)

 

I'm plenty ok with the human noble origin, but it would have been really cool to see a "street rat" one. But I wonder how they would explain that one being at the Conclave. I just think the human noble was the easiest "in" for being at the Conclave, particularly since they say that the PC is the youngest Trevelyan and so was given over in service to the Chantry.



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Do you remember which one??

I'm considering going on a Halla hunt... and I'm DALISH! :crying:

It's the one in the village...the guy who is just standing in the middle of the road...where you meet Mother Giselle!


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Ah Merrill - the one character I couldn't stand to be in the same room with. I never chose a flirt option with her simply for that reason.

 

In regards to the flirts, weren't they kinda obvious in DA:2, with a yellow heart or something? Or could you turn those off?

 

In DA2 it was very very obvious. The thing is sometimes I don't want to hurt them & tried to do a diplomatic answer and... voilà. The Merrill one I did it intentionally tho, I thought I flirt in Act 1 is quite harmless :lol:

 

I didn't know that actually trigger the romance flag up & she just came to my Hawke's mansion like as if romanced, in Act 2.



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I'm plenty ok with the human noble origin, but it would have been really cool to see a "street rat" one. But I wonder how they would explain that one being at the Conclave. I just think the human noble was the easiest "in" for being at the Conclave, particularly since they say that the PC is the youngest Trevelyan and so was given over in service to the Chantry.

Oh, I agree that it was the easiest answer. But I'm sure there were reasons for non-nobles to be there too. Mercenaries or spies hired by nobles who were going to be there, or by the mages themselves? Or by the chantry - they'd lost control of most of the Templars, so I assume the qunari mercenary's band wasn't the only one they'd hired as peacekeepers. I'm fairly certain your average mercenary/rogue/spy in Thedas was not born into a noble family (unless nobles are a very high percentage of the population, lol.) And someone from a middle class family would be more likely to go into the family business or some other safer trade (by definition, middle class means you have resources available.) Poor kids and street rats are going to supply most of the mercenaries and rogues because they simply don't have many options.



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Oh, I agree that it was the easiest answer. But I'm sure there were reasons for non-nobles to be there too. Mercenaries or spies hired by nobles who were going to be there, or by the mages themselves? Or by the chantry - they'd lost control of most of the Templars, so I assume the qunari mercenary's band wasn't the only one they'd hired as peacekeepers. I'm fairly certain your average mercenary/rogue/spy in Thedas was not born into a noble family (unless nobles are a very high percentage of the population, lol.) And someone from a middle class family would be more likely to go into the family business or some other safer trade (by definition, middle class means you have resources available.) Poor kids and street rats are going to supply most of the mercenaries and rogues because they simply don't have many options.

 

My head-cannon for my Reaver is that she was doing mercenary work, against her family's wishes. I envision that she wanted to be "just like daddy," and because she was the youngest, he spoiled her by allowing her to be trained with a greatsword. Of course, her mother was against this from the start and always pushed her about her "noble responsibility." Her place, as the youngest, was with the Chantry. This caused a rift within the family and my girl to become a rebellious "wild child" teen. She eventually left and started to do mercenary work, which was originally to spite her mother. Little did she know she'd actually enjoy it and life in the fast-lane. 


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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... Cullen's *stache

 

http://thebearmuse.t...-cullen-because

 

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Oh, I didn't realize there were placeholders still available for the 5k - I'd love to include my fic (posted a couple of pages back) if possible!



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So I am making my way through my (modded) Solas romance, and... (spoilered because OT and for Solas romance spoilers)

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Anyway, if the Cullen romance is anything even CLOSE to this I am going to freaking DIE of happiness!!! I mean if they'd left this romance in it would be 100% my canon without a doubt. (As it is my canon will probably be a non-romance playthrough) And at least I have a happy ending to look forward to with Cullen!


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My fan-derping killed the thread.

 

RIP Cullen thread

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So I am making my way through my (modded) Solas romance, and... (spoilered because OT and for Solas romance spoilers)

Spoiler

 

Anyway, if the Cullen romance is anything even CLOSE to this I am going to freaking DIE of happiness!!! I mean if they'd left this romance in it would be 100% my canon without a doubt. (As it is my canon will probably be a non-romance playthrough) And at least I have a happy ending to look forward to with Cullen!

 

 

My fan-derping killed the thread.

 

RIP Cullen thread

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Have a Solas Arty! :P

 

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Just quick doodle because as much as I love my doctor's Addams Family style of interior decoration, it starts to get on my nerve this morning <_<

 

Sorry for lowering once again the quality of fanart posted on this thread... :(


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@Curious i`m glad you`re finally able to play the romances you wanted! I really enjoyed the Solas romance, it`s one of my favorites, so i totally understand your enthusiasm ^_^. And hopefully you get to play Cullen`s romance soon too. Are you romancing him with your Auren?



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OMG He's adorable!!! So chibi!!! <3 *hugs* You should draw chibi Cullen now!! :D



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@Curious i`m glad you`re finally able to play the romances you wanted! I really enjoyed the Solas romance, it`s one of my favorites, so i totally understand your enthusiasm ^_^. And hopefully you get to play Cullen`s romance soon too. Are you romancing him with your Auren?

 

Yes I will romance Cullen with Auren. CULLEN X AUREN 4-LIFE :lol: They are my head canon soulmates. So I am waiting for not just the bi-Cullen mod but also hair mods. And for patch 5 to come out so if Auren doesn't look perfect I can fix him in the Black Emporium. Because this playthrough will have to be perfect. I have waited long enough :lol:

I am romancing Solas with the adorable do-gooder Alin Lavellan; the game crashed on me after an hour in CC so I rushed through re-making him and forgot to fix the lips. I hope Solas likes bright red shiny lips on his love *snorts*


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OMG He's adorable!!! So chibi!!! <3 *hugs* You should draw chibi Cullen now!! :D

 

I did... a looong long time ago, in a galaxy far away...

 

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Squeee!! He even has the little scar :lol: <3



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I haven`t used any mods yet (seems so confusing compared with DAO mods  :() but i think when hair mods came out i won`t be able to resist  :P. I just want a long hair character  :ph34r: 


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IIRC Arty made the ultimate "How To Install Mod 101" guide a few while back no? Well let's just wait after patch, IIRC the mods will have to be re-installed after each patch no?



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LOL. I have to read this now. I usually skim most codex entries and only read the ones who really feel important to the story.

 

To give a little more back history about :Sexuality in Thedas."

 

A couple of years or so back, I made a post, rather peeved at Bioware for being Rated G in the sex scenes,. Needless to say it garnered a lot of people agreeing and disagreeing.

 

Gaider popped in and joined in the conversation for quite some time. . At one point he said, "What do you all want? Two elves discussing Sexuality in Thedas?"

 

He said some other funny stuff, but I do not recall what was said. However the line above always stuck in my mind because it always made me laugh. And now since the book is in the game I cannot help but giggle every time I see it.

 

Good Times. :P


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I haven`t used any mods yet (seems so confusing compared with DAO mods  :() but i think when hair mods came out i won`t be able to resist  :P. I just want a long hair character  :ph34r: 

 

Same! I want a ponytail for Auren. Maybe some shaved sides... I want him to look wild and Dalish.

 

IIRC Arty made the ultimate "How To Install Mod 101" guide a few while back no? Well let's just wait after patch, IIRC the mods will have to be re-installed after each patch no?

 

Nooooot suuuure on this....? I'm not the person to ask, but I think you may be right? Anyway, something like the romance mods I imagine, which have a lot of work put into them, will probably be continuously updated by their creators, so I'm not too, TOO concerned. EDIT: And since Adela is doing the hair mods, I'm sure she'll keep them updated.

 

I'll repost my step-by-step modding guide here:

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In other news, I'm struggling with my current playthrough :( I am realizing that playing as an archer may be the hardest class. Because my first playthrough was also an archer, and was equally hard. But my S&S warrior is SUPER easy, and my mage is also easy. Anyway, I seem stuck at Level 9. I've defeated Hinterlands, Fallow Mire, and Storm Coast, and all that's left is mage/templar quest. I'm really nervous cause I'm not high enough!!


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IIRC Arty made the ultimate "How To Install Mod 101" guide a few while back no? Well let's just wait after patch, IIRC the mods will have to be re-installed after each patch no?

 

Yes, all mods will need to be re-patched after any official patch release. I also believe that the Mod Manager itself many need to be updated if it is incompatible with the new release, so you may need to wait on that from that author. So far I haven't had any problems re-patching my mods immediately after each official release, but I don't play with any "game-changers," just texture replacements. Not sure if that would make a difference. 


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