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Ha. Payback for all the dead Cullen artwork. I am not beyond revenge nor do I forget the people I must get my due from.

You've just signed your own death warrant for you have not begun to see the depths of my wrath. Sleep well, my dear. Prepare thyself for war.



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It's a concept existing in German Language apparently... They're among those who bother to classify everything into Masculine, Feminin, and Neutral. I already thought that French is a crazy language since the hardest part is to know which is which (a car is a girl, a ship is a guy, moon is girl & sun is guy, telescope's a guy etc).

 

There are remnants of that in the English language, actually; for example, "blond" versus "blonde." But most English speakers don't even know the difference. But at least that makes sense... a female person has blonde hair; a male person has blond hair.

 

Inanimate objects definitely don't have gender in English :lol:

 

And first person personal pronouns are gendered (he / she / it) but sadly "it" is dehumanizing and not appropriate for a person. So you have to choose "he" or "she."

 

People have been trying to use "they" but tbh when someone calls me "they" I feel like I'm Anders or something with another being living inside me xD



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Well I'm not Artie but I do hate you a little bit right now. :crying:  See that's the kind of thing why Hawke walks out, Warden goes bye. Hawke never swore any oaths to die gloriously for whatever cause like the designated Warden did, so Hawke gets to walk and live happily ever after. Yes. Please.

 

 

I don't think there ever was, unfortunately. All attempts at a Seb thread I've seen were eventually derailed into hate and drama and ended up closed by mods. Alas.

 

(ps. go to sleep Ceru :P )

 

I did that once, the one Hawke with Merrill. Can't do it to Fenris... But the choice was between Hawke or Alistair!Warden

 

I share the pain with all! I thought it was only fair if I allowed everyone else to experience what I did...even though my feelings were not as intense as everyone else.

 

Ha. Payback for all the dead Cullen artwork. I am not beyond revenge nor do I forget the people I must get my due from.

 

<_<

 

I don't know what's in the comics that Greagoir might have done (I'm afraid to find out now.) I really liked him in my first few PTs. But then I ran my mage who went straight to Irving and cooperated completely, then discovered if Duncan hadn't been there, I would probably have been heading for tranquility or the mage's prison, yeah, my opinion of him suffered a bit (and of Irving, I think he threw me to the wolves on purpose, knowing Duncan would save his bacon.) Of course, I think they both wanted me out of the tower because of Cullen...

 

From my mage PT, the way Irving reacted I'd still wager that he'll not agree. I mean Irving's the First Enchanter, he'll have his say as much as Gregoir. And I suspect Gregoir might just need either a black goat, either a time to calm himself.



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Well... Personally I even got much further than that.

 

It's a Cullen thread so I'll say this once but please don't hate me for this. I need to sleep & stop saying things like this.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Okay, noted. Sorry I didn't get it at all back then. My head's not functioning.

 

It's a concept existing in German Language apparently... They're among those who bother to classify everything into Masculine, Feminin, and Neutral. I already thought that French is a crazy language since the hardest part is to know which is which (a car is a girl, a ship is a guy, moon is girl & sun is guy, telescope's a guy etc).

No, I don't hate you. You can ship your Warden with whoever you want. Women don't do it for me (I've kissed girls in middle/high school in a few Spin The Bottle), but I don't judge. <3


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Well I'm not Artie but I do hate you a little bit right now. :crying:  See that's the kind of thing why Hawke walks out, Warden goes bye. Hawke never swore any oaths to die gloriously for whatever cause like the designated Warden did, so Hawke gets to walk and live happily ever after. Yes. Please.

 

 

I don't think there ever was, unfortunately. All attempts at a Seb thread I've seen were eventually derailed into hate and drama and ended up closed by mods. Alas.

 

(ps. go to sleep Ceru :P )

So... I've heard about wardens and oaths, including from Alistair, but does anyone actually remember being asked to swear an oath? Because I sure don't (and at least one of my Wardens was a very reluctant recruit, she d**n sure wouldn't have sworn one :rolleyes: .



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You've just signed your own death warrant for you have not begun to see the depths of my wrath. Sleep well, my dear. Prepare thyself for war.

Oooooh. I like a threatening Elu who wants to go blow for blow. Sounds like fun, lol. As for war, well, only victors write history.


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Sounds like you and I are in a similar predicament. I just go with my biological sex because... I don't have a gender.  :blush:

 

I have told a couple people in my life that I am gender neutral; it was very hard and embarrassing... my sister nodded seriously and said "I understand"; my friend laughed and seemed confused and I don't think she believe in gender neutrality... she believes people are men or women, and that being one or the other makes you special and very different from the other sex. (She's very second wave feminist.)

 

At my age (34) it's about accepting the body I'm in and reexamining how I approach relationships. Realizing that the outside doesn't have to match the inside, so I can wear a dress and it isn't "wrong."

 

And hey there's Dragon Age so I can play as who I want to be in real life :)


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Oooooh. I like a threatening Elu who wants to go blow for blow. Sounds like fun, lol. As for war, well, only victors write history.

I will break you. I will pull out feelings of sadness the likes of which you have not experienced!

 

 

*sharpens quill to prepare the Cullen death fic*



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I personally don't ship Amell and Cullen, but these are such beautiful videos!

 


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There are remnants of that in the English language, actually; for example, "blond" versus "blonde." But most English speakers don't even know the difference. But at least that makes sense... a female person has blonde hair; a male person has blond hair.

 

Inanimate objects definitely don't have gender in English :lol:

 

And first person personal pronouns are gendered (he / she / it) but sadly "it" is dehumanizing and not appropriate for a person. So you have to choose "he" or "she."

 

People have been trying to use "they" but tbh when someone calls me "they" I feel like I'm Anders or something with another being living inside me xD

 

Don't go to sleep for a night & you'll get another living being inside yourself. Basically your head & body's disconnected.

 

So... I've heard about wardens and oaths, including from Alistair, but does anyone actually remember being asked to swear an oath? Because I sure don't (and at least one of my Wardens was a very reluctant recruit, she d**n sure wouldn't have sworn one :rolleyes: .

 

The Joining doesn't count?

 

 

Oooooh. I like a threatening Elu who wants to go blow for blow. Sounds like fun, lol. As for war, well, only victors write history.

 

May I be the War Journalist? :lol:


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I will break you. I will pull out feelings of sadness the likes of which you have not experienced!

 

 

*sharpens quill to prepare the Cullen death fic*

Do your worst. I write my own death fics, Elu. I know pain and I can handle pain thanks to Ashe's emotional training. So I await your futile attempt at trying to break me. Best wishes!



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Do your worst. I write my own death fics, Elu. I know pain and I can handle pain thanks to Ashe's emotional training. So I await your futile attempt at trying to break me. Best wishes!

Honey, Ashe's stuff is a walk in the park to the tales of woe that I weave. Make sure to buy several boxes of tissues.


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Honey, Ashe's stuff is a walk in the park to the tales of woe that I weave. Make sure to buy several boxes of tissues.

Considering I am sick with a damn cold...I'm stocked up and I will also leave this a response.



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I personally don't ship Amell and Cullen, but these are such beautiful videos!

I created a new world state for my current playthrough with an Amell who romanced Leliana and died to the ultimate sacrifice.  I also headcanon that she had a "thing" with Cullen when she lived in the tower... oh the feels XD


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I created a new world state for my current playthrough with an Amell who romanced Leliana and died to the ultimate sacrifice.  I also headcanon that she had a "thing" with Cullen when she lived in the tower... oh the feels XD

 

OMG I did that!!!

 

Nah, the feels REALLY good, the angst' really intense when I did that (very first PT). The way Cullen talked about her in past tense. I got the impression that Greg made his voice much sadder than as if Amell's or Surana's still alive & kicking & he uses present tense.


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I created a new world state for my current playthrough with an Amell who romanced Leliana and died to the ultimate sacrifice.  I also headcanon that she had a "thing" with Cullen when she lived in the tower... oh the feels XD

Keep me posted on the changes with Cullen's and Leliana's dialogue!


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I created a new world state for my current playthrough with an Amell who romanced Leliana and died to the ultimate sacrifice.  I also headcanon that she had a "thing" with Cullen when she lived in the tower... oh the feels XD

That's a lot of feels. XD



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Keep me posted on the changes with Cullen's and Leliana's dialogue!

 

I did this already so if you want to get any confirmation/question immediately don't hesitate. Kalala can do the documentation properly however, I lost most saves.

 

 

 

*Ceru brings out Journalist Hat & Notebook & pencil, ready to record on War Casualty between the Red Alliance of Zarro and the Blue Imperium of Elu*

 

I need to go to sleep.



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So... I've heard about wardens and oaths, including from Alistair, but does anyone actually remember being asked to swear an oath? Because I sure don't (and at least one of my Wardens was a very reluctant recruit, she d**n sure wouldn't have sworn one :rolleyes: .

 

The Joining is an oath.

 

Join us brothers and sisters.
Join us in the shadows where we stand vigilant.
Join us as we carry the duty that can not be forsworn.
And should you perish, know that your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
And that one day we shall join you.

 

You are pretty much swearing to hunt darskpawn until one day you fall on some hurlock's nasty taint-greased sword... if you're lucky. If you're not, enjoy your Calling. ;)

 

But yeah, even if your Warden wasn't keen on joining, people do desert. Anders swore that oath virtually at gunpoint, and ran tail outta there the first opportunity he got. My own Cousland resisted her "recruitment" until Duncan had to drop the whole nice guy act, conscript her like a criminal and practically drag her kicking and screaming out of the castle, so I know that feel... she did grow into being a Warden and would have embraced the Commander thing like her life mission if she had lived to see it; but I've had other Wardens, like my Brosca and my Tabris, who didn't want anything to do with the Wardens even at the end of the game, and couldn't wait to dodge town the second Riordan wasn't looking.


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I personally don't ship Amell and Cullen, but these are such beautiful videos!

 

Neither did I, but they are good. Just think, all those years ago a romance with Cullen was but a dream. I'm so glad we all got to sink our teeth into him in the end. I am also failing at doing a romance that isn't Cullen or Cassandra. *pout*


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Keep me posted on the changes with Cullen's and Leliana's dialogue!

Will do.  She's still in Haven, but so far Leliana talked about her once when my Trevelyan asked about Amell.  I think that this worldstate really works with Leliana's "hardening" in personality too.  I also like to headcanon that Leliana and Cullen had a conversation at some point about Amell, since they both have fond memories of her.  It may be my favorite created worldstate so far for headcanons :P


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Keep me posted on the changes with Cullen's and Leliana's dialogue!

 

I believe that banter between them about a romanced Surana/Amell only happens if you're not romancing Cullen on that playthrough, right?



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The Joining is an oath.

 

Join us brothers and sisters.
Join us in the shadows where we stand vigilant.
Join us as we carry the duty that can not be forsworn.
And should you perish, know that your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
And that one day we shall join you.

 

You are pretty much swearing to hunt darskpawn until one day you fall on some hurlock's nasty taint-greased sword... if you're lucky. If you're not, enjoy your Calling. ;)

 

But yeah, even if your Warden wasn't keen on joining, people do desert. Anders swore that oath virtually at gunpoint, and ran tail outta there the first opportunity he got. My own Cousland resisted her "recruitment" until Duncan had to drop the whole nice guy act, conscript her like a criminal and practically drag her kicking and screaming out of the castle, so I know that feel... she did grow into being a Warden and would have embraced the Commander thing like her life mission if she had lived to see it; but I've had other Wardens, like my Brosca and my Tabris, who didn't want anything to do with the Wardens even at the end of the game, and couldn't wait to dodge town the second Riordan wasn't looking.

IIRC there are cases like Nicolas & Julien from The Calling or something like that, you know, the book with Duncan & Fiona as newbie & Genevieve & the Architect & that super awesome hunter with his dog. They were planning on leaving the warden & live a quiet life before their calling no?

I imagine that at peacetime there might be deserters that the Order turn a blind eyes...? Or simply deserter.

 

Will do.  She's still in Haven, but so far Leliana talked about her once when my Trevelyan asked about Amell.  I think that this worldstate really works with Leliana's "hardening" in personality too.  I also like to headcanon that Leliana and Cullen had a conversation at some point about Amell, since they both have fond memories of her.  It may be my favorite created worldstate so far for headcanons :P

 

If you harden Leliana that gives a helluva of a story I tell ya! (I did that).



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I believe that banter between them about a romanced Surana/Amell only happens if you're not romancing Cullen on that playthrough, right?

 

The real thing that changed is how Leliana talked about Amell/Surana. The angst really deep.

And Cullen's using Past Tense while talking about her, his voice's much sadder from what I get compared to when she's alive & kicking & he speaks in present tense

 

EDIT: *off to sleep, finally... Morning everyone...*