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[Caja]

I think that there are definitely similarities between Alistair and Cullen: They are both (ex-) Templars, they are both religious, both fighters and both got bored with the not so action-focused education of the chantry. If their lifes had been different and they had been raised together by the chantry I could see them as good friends. When Dragon Age starts both of them are rather sweet and naive and then both of them are forced to grow up quickly. It just happens sooner and more forcefully for Cullen. I think these pivotal points really changed both of them, defined them and brought out some of their character traits. Cullen becomes earnest and stricter. Thankfully, a bit of his lightness returns when he joins the Inquisition. Alistair (hopefully) holds on to his lightness a bit longer. 

 

As for my Amell, yes, she had a crush on Cullen but then Duncan stepped into her life and that was the end of it. And then she fell in love with Alistair (*sigh* so did I *cough*). So, when the party went back to the circle of magi and Cullen was in that cage, she felt really, really bad for him and helpless, too, because she couldn't do more for him. But she was really busy at that time. She never judged him for anything and never got mad. In my headcanon, she did some research on his whereabouts after she became chancellor and things had calmed down just to see if he was alright.  So, that's my Amell story .

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I also don't remember anyone asking anything in here related to Cullen that failed to get answered (at least if it wasn't obviously trying to cause a negative reaction?) Can someone point us to what we've supposedly ignored related to Cullen?

There was one about his siblings a little while ago, and it happened a few times over the summer. Not an everyday occurrence, just grinds my gears on the few occasions when it does happen.

 

EDIT: And I don't mean to be the OT police either! But the post I was originally responding to said "I don't see what the big deal about going OT is", and I was trying to point out that at least in my personal opinion there are definite benefits to staying on-topic. Plus I don't think the thread felt any less friendly from p. 4900-5000 or whatever it was.

 

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On topic, I consider Cullen and DA:O Alistair almost polar opposites in some very important character traits, although I'm in a rush and can't rant at length about it now. As for Alistair-Amell-Cullen love triangles: in my headcanon for my canon DA:I worldstate, my Amell either winds up in a tragic dead-end unequal-footing romance with a King Alistair who eventually marries someone else, or maybe with increased mage acceptance in Leliana's Chantry and with a cure for the Calling they finally get married and have a family together (though I doubt she'd receive, or want, the title of Queen). In my worldstates for the seven non-Cullen DA:I romances, my headcanon is that Amell tries to comfort him after Broken Circle, gets horribly rejected, but reaches out to him again either after picking up the Kirkwall barracks rumors from Hawke or receiving word from Leliana (who knows firsthand how Amell feels about Cullen) that he still cares for her.

 

As for the "average intelligence" thing, it's a cliche, but I went to a really tough school for undergrad, and there were people who were there because they were incredibly smart (some of whom struggled at first since they'd never been challenged at school before arriving there) and people were also very smart but who had always had to work at school (but tended to do better upon arriving at the university because they'd already learned how to study, etc.). I like to imagine Cullen in the second camp, especially considering some of his Haven dialogue. 

[MelissaGT]

Yes. You are right. I have observed substantial differences between Alistair and Cullen myself. I did not mean to imply that I thought they were interchangeable. I just meant I still would have been aboard the Cullen train if that had been the case. As it stands, I have held preference for boarding the Cullen train over the Alistair train since my Amell playthrough in DAO.
It's kind of funny because this is the first dragon age game I've actually had more than lukewarm feelings for any of the LI's. I was kind of interested in Alistair, but none of the other three really got my attention. No one in DA2 impressed me at all, though Fenris came the closest... Then DAI comes out and I get excited about both Cullen and Solas only to find out later that both had been afterthoughts. Lol.

 

I felt the same way about DA:2, though I usually end up making Sebastian my world state import. 

 

I don't see much similarity between Alistair and Cullen, short of them both being hotties (and the obvious class similarities). I think a big part of the difference is their level of life experience (age being part of it) - we spend most of our time with Alistair in his late teens. He hasn't had much life experience and has a lot of growing to do. In the beginning, he's looking for direction and guidance. By the end of the game, he has more confidence in himself and can even go on to be a decent king. I really like that we got a glimpse of the man he grew into (if you see him as the Warden in DA:I). I wish we could have seen more of King!Alistair. Yes, we get to see Cullen in DA:O, but only very briefly. Even then he seemed more serious than Alistair (albeit shy, but that's the difference between and Introvert and Extrovert). In DA:2, Cullen is even more serious (which would make sense based on what happened to him). We spend most of our time with him in DA:I and by then he's 30ish. He has way more life experience and his "serious brooding" is very different from Alistair's youthful cuteness. Another huge difference is that Cullen is a very private and professional person, whereas Alistair is more open and tends to wear his heart on his sleeve.

 

I think we could try to compare them a little more successfully if we got to spend time with them at the same points in their lives. I would love to see more of 30-something Alistair.

 

*edit*

I wanted to add that Alistair, appearing to be more light-hearted, seems like the type to be more comfortable with PDA's and open affection. Cullen, on the other hand, is all about following decorum. I can picture his public relationship being all about intense slow burning glances rather than outright touching and hand-holding. And that intense slow burn is totally hawt. 

[R2s Muse]

 

As for my Amell, yes, she had a crush on Cullen but then Duncan stepped into her life and that was the end of it. And then she fell in love with Alistair  Duncan(*sigh* so did I *cough*). 

LOL I read this very differently.   

[meanieweenie]

While I loved my Alistair run, I always had a HUGE problem with his avoidance of duty. His "I don't wanna be king!" tantrum would have been a deal breaker for me had it been a real life situation. I don't wanna do a lot of things, but you get off your butt and do it anyway because it's your job, etc. Granted, I complain about it the entire time but I still get the job done. 

 

I think if Cullen was more my thing for that reason. 

 

edit - I didn't do an Amell run either so it has no bearing on my game.

[Eliantariel]

So concerning the banter bug I thought I share what I found recently in the modding forum here.

 

Someone made a script that you can execute with the cheatengine tool (so sadly no mod to install yet) and trigger a banter by just pressing a key. So when you want to hear a new banter you just have to press the key. I haven't tried it yet but some in the modding forum have and it seems to work. Just for your information if you like to try it out (and are playing on PC apparently).

 

Concerning Alistair and Cullen (to stay on topic): I love both but Cullen more and I am still haunted by some developments at the end of DAO especially if you are a female romancing Alistair - I guess I should have played as a male. I agree with Melissa (great screenshots by the way, just post everything you have I can't get enough of it ) that both are very different but I think some of it is due to the things Cullen had to endure. Alistair did not have an easy life himself but wasn't being tortured like Cullen was.

[R2s Muse]

(so, are we allowed to discuss things or not; I was getting the impression there was a request to drop anything not essential; i.e. games news or new mods directly related to Cullen so people didn't have to work through speculation and even Cullen screenshots?)

TBH, I have no idea at this point. I think the upshot is: moderation in all things and try to stay generally on topic. And if you see a Cullen question not get answered, then maybe answer it yourself. 

[Ryriena]

I kind of wished they had given us Cullen instead of Alastair for a female romance, however, most of his personaltiy was changed because it would hurt player egos, so we got this person that did not want to be king and not taking charge. Because you know whiny male egos.

[MelissaGT]

*snip*

 

Concerning Alistair and Cullen (to stay on topic): I love both but Cullen more and I am still haunted by some developments at the end of DAO especially if you are a female romancing Alistair - I guess I should have played as a male. I agree with Melissa (great screenshots by the way, just post everything you have I can't get enough of it ) that both are very different but I think some of it is due to the things Cullen had to endure. Alistair did not have an easy life himself but wasn't being tortured like Cullen was.

 

The "ugly bits" towards the end of the Alistair romance didn't really bother me, though I can see how they would bother some. Not that I was like "yeah sure that's awesome," but I can understand the gravity of the situation and that it was either that or one of them dies. 

 

Another thing to point out is that Cullen is a career soldier. He's had decorum and professionalism drilled into him for most of his life. Alistair doesn't have that (not even really with the Grey Wardens so much). At some point your job can and will have an effect on who you are as a person. How does that saying go..."You are the job" or something like that? 

[Tarlonniel]

In love with Duncan? Heh, now there's a crazy idea. Who on earth would fall for that guy? *shiftyeyes*

 

I loved that little conversation with Cullen in which he describes confronting Morrigan over the mirror. The fact that she insults him in pretty much exactly the same way she always insulted Alistair... and he reacts much as Alistair did... wonderful writing there.

[Tishina]

I felt the same way about DA:2, though I usually end up making Sebastian my world state import. 
 
I don't see much similarity between Alistair and Cullen, short of them both being hotties (and the obvious class similarities). I think a big part of the difference is their level of life experience (age being part of it) - we spend most of our time with Alistair in his late teens. He hasn't had much life experience and has a lot of growing to do. In the beginning, he's looking for direction and guidance. By the end of the game, he has more confidence in himself and can even go on to be a decent king. I really like that we got a glimpse of the man he grew into (if you see him as the Warden in DA:I). I wish we could have seen more of King!Alistair. Yes, we get to see Cullen in DA:O, but only very briefly. Even then he seemed more serious than Alistair (albeit shy, but that's the difference between and Introvert and Extrovert). In DA:2, Cullen is even more serious (which would make sense based on what happened to him). We spend most of our time with him in DA:I and by then he's 30ish. He has way more life experience and his "serious brooding" is very different from Alistair's youthful cuteness. Another huge difference is that Cullen is a very private and professional person, whereas Alistair is more open and tends to wear his heart on his sleeve.
 
I think we could try to compare them a little more successfully if we got to spend time with them at the same points in their lives. I would love to see more of 30-something Alistair.
 
*edit*
I wanted to add that Alistair, appearing to be more light-hearted, seems like the type to be more comfortable with PDA's and open affection. Cullen, on the other hand, is all about following decorum. I can picture his public relationship being all about intense slow burning glances rather than outright touching and hand-holding. And that intense slow burn is totally hawt.

I saw similarities, but mostly superficial ones. Alistair may not have been brilliant, but he was intelligent, and I always took his reluctance to become king to be the result of being conditioned as a child to believe he had no right to the throne.

Cullen strikes me as quite competent and well-educated, but other than his chess-playing, I don't feel we get that much to let us access just how intelligent he is, unfortunately. Above average at a minimum, I would say, but not necessarily on the level with some others in the game. Though he could very well be, it's just that we haven't seen direct evidence.

[MelissaGT]

I saw similarities, but mostly superficial ones. Alistair may not have been brilliant, but he was intelligent, and I always took his reluctance to become king to be the result of being conditioned as a child to believe he had no right to the throne.

Cullen strikes me as quite competent and well-educated, but other than his chess-playing, I don't feel we get that much to let us access just how intelligent he is, unfortunately. Above average at a minimum, I would say, but not necessarily on the level with some others in the game. Though he could very well be, it's just that we haven't seen direct evidence.

 

I think him being commander and #2 of the most powerful force in Thedas is a testament to his intelligence. I don't think a person without it could do it. We don't need to see it because it's a given, at least in my opinion. 

[Lynas]

So concerning the banter bug I thought I share what I found recently in the modding forum here.

 

Someone made a script that you can execute with the cheatengine tool (so sadly no mod to install yet) and trigger a banter by just pressing a key. So when you want to hear a new banter you just have to press the key. I haven't tried it yet but some in the modding forum have and it seems to work. Just for your information if you like to try it out (and are playing on PC apparently).

 

I tried it, it work "fine" in some area but it seems like the cheatengine don't like when you change area and i had some crash  

[CuriousArtemis]

Cullen strikes me as quite competent and well-educated, but other than his chess-playing, I don't feel we get that much to let us access just how intelligent he is, unfortunately. Above average at a minimum, I would say, but not necessarily on the level with some others in the game. Though he could very well be, it's just that we haven't seen direct evidence.

 

As a teacher of freshmen, believe me, you can recognize stupidity from a mile away lol as well as intelligence. I judge Cullen to be quite intelligent *firm nod*

[meanieweenie]

TBH, I have no idea at this point. I think the upshot is: moderation in all things and try to stay generally on topic. And if you see a Cullen question not get answered, then maybe answer it yourself. 

Especially the way this thread moves. Sometimes I simply don't see posts that get lost in between other conversations. Not really something to get upset over. 

 

As for the Alistair / Cullen comparisons go.... I chalk it all up to DA:O Alistair being so much younger then than Cullen is in DA:I. A sense of responsibility sometimes has to be a learned behavior. 

[CuriousArtemis]

As for the Alistair / Cullen comparisons go.... I chalk it all up to Alistair being so much younger then than Cullen is in DA:I. A sense of responsibility sometimes has to be a learned behavior. 

 

At first I didn't even recognize Alistair when he marched in after "In Hushed Whispers" ... he was like, all professional and mature and stuff LOL

[meanieweenie]

At first I didn't even recognize Alistair when he marched in after "In Hushed Whispers" ... he was like, all professional and mature and stuff LOL

I didn't either! I'm so glad it's not just me! 

[MelissaGT]

I tried it, it work "fine" in some area but it seems like the cheatengine don't like when you change area and i had some crash

 

CheatEngine started to cause my game to crash after the most recent patch. That's why I started using jammy re textures... 

[CuriousArtemis]

Is Flycam a CheatEngine thing or can anyone use it? How is it used?

[MelissaGT]

Is Flycam a CheatEngine thing or can anyone use it? How is it used?

 

Flycam is a completely separate program and can be downloaded here. Head's up in that your antivirus may not like it. I had to tell Norton 360 to ignore it several times. I believe it's just because it's not a widely used file and doesn't have trusted status. I submitted mine to Symantec so I'm hoping that will stop them from flagging it in the future. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Flycam is a completely separate program and can be downloaded here. Head's up in that your antivirus may not like it. I had to tell Norton 360 to ignore it several times. I believe it's just because it's not a widely used file and doesn't have trusted status. I submitted mine to Symantec so I'm hoping that will stop them from flagging it in the future. 

 

I don't have an antivirus actually lol Can you recommend a good free one? AVG is evil and I refuse to download it.

 

And thanks!

[Lynas]

CheatEngine started to cause my game to crash after the most recent patch. That's why I started using jammy re textures... 

 

What is this re-texture for ?

[CuriousArtemis]

What is this re-texture for ?

 

I think she means for the Skyhold outfit, commonly referred to as our inquisitor's "jammies"

[Lynas]

Oh i see thank !

[MelissaGT]

I don't have an antivirus actually lol Can you recommend a good free one? AVG is evil and I refuse to download it.

 

And thanks!

 

Sorry, I don't use free ones. I'm a firm believer in getting what you pay for as far as antivirus programs go. I use Norton 360 which runs at about $75 per year and highly recommend it. It has an automatic file backup system as well as secure password storage vault. I also use Malwarebytes, which was a one-time purchase of $25, but has since moved to a yearly subscription of $25 (I was grandfathered in when they switched). It works in conjuction with Norton 360 and they play nicely together. 

 

My b/f's father used to use free ones and I have since converted him to using Norton. He found out the hard way that most often the free ones are just legal malware and cause more problems than not.

 

I would start using something soon because going online without one is playing with fire. If you can't afford the more expensive programs, I would at least look into Malwarebytes. It's a very good program. 

 

What is this re-texture for ?

 

 

I think she means for the Skyhold outfit, commonly referred to as our inquisitor's "jammies"

 

The Skyhold jammies. But it's not just in Skyhold - you can see the plain brown jammies under most of the crafted armor too. The re textures change that as well.