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[R2s Muse]

So...I have a qucik question(s) for you lore masters.  Do darksapwn have the same connection to the fade as humans?  Ie, can they dream, and do their mages manipulate the fade like human mages do?

 

And also, just for clarification...dwarfs cannot access the fade or dream.  Humans and elves (and, if I am correct, darkspawn) can. Is the correct?

 

And one more thing...templars block their own connection to the fade.  As per Cole, they "reach for something older, deeper."  Any speculation on what this means ( I figure this is on topic, since Cullen is a templar...and thus you guys would know best)!!!!  I just wondered because Cullen seems to dream alot, and yet as a templar, he actively blocks the fade.  Is this just because he has stopped taking lyrium, and now his unconscious mind accesses the fade again?  But then, it is confusing because mages use lyrium to tap into the fade. So...I just... I am...confused.  Help!  Could someone break it down for me like I am a small child??

 

Need to know for writing purposes!  Thanks!

 

Also, R2, I agree with not using the word "hell" in Thedas, as it makes no sense.  Problem is, I think i have done that occasionally without thinking about it!  Blasphemy!  Now doing a search of giant document to delete/replace the word hell.  Bloody hell!!

On the use of Hell, DA writers are split. It's lore bending, and in-world should be replaced with the Void or the Abyss ("to the Void with that" etc). However, English isn't a Thedosian construct either, so some writers just use it anyway ... and to hell with that level of accuracy . So I think it's up to you whether it bothers *you,* the writer or not. [[for example, even a word like "okay" seems to have a purely American origin that has no bearing or parallel in Thedas... but I still use it, altho it bothers me, evenso]]  (for fun, my guide to swearing in Thedas: To the Void with That! Swearing and Exclamations in Thedas)

 

On templars dreaming, Cullen clearly must have before going off the lyrium, so I'm not convinced that would influence his dreaming. I personally always view his nightmares as a result of trauma and regular ole human psychology as opposed to something templar-y or lyrium induced. But it could be. 

 

On darkspawn and the Fade... I could swear this was addressed in either Awakenings or the Calling. I'm pretty sure that darkspawn don't dream because they don't sleep. Just like they don't eat. They're just fueled off the Blight somehow. (that part is from the Calling) I thought the Fade and magic stuff might be touched upon in Awakenings... ? Dialogue with the talking darkspawn, or maybe part of convos with Justice about going into the Fade in the swamp...? I don't remember the details tho. 

 

Where's Elu?!? (and why don't we have a way of tagging people here?!? LOL)

[R2s Muse]

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess that Dagna did dream once if you gave her that "scrap of you" after the Abyss quest (when she asked for it, a war table mission).

 

What she described seems like a dream to me.

Are you talking about when she's working on the rune and talks about that weird episode where she was suddenly really tall? I don't think that was a dream in the regular sense so much as some kind of vision likely related to whatever crazy lyrium manipulation she was doing. She wasn't asleep at the time, for example. But what it *was*? I have no idea. Very, very tantalizing, tho.

[CuriousArtemis]

Where's Elu?!? (and why don't we have a way of tagging people here?!? LOL)

 

I've always thought that would be useful. Or to get an alert when someone quotes you... that'd be nice, too! 

[meanieweenie]

 

Where's Elu?!? (and why don't we have a way of tagging people here?!? LOL)

 

 

I've always thought that would be useful. Or to get an alert when someone quotes you... that'd be nice, too! 

Hear, hear! Someone get on these two things please. Thanks! 

 

Edit... just because:

[R2s Muse]

Hear, hear! Someone get on these two things please. Thanks! 

 

Edit... just because:

This will forever be my favorite Cullen thread creation. Altho it's a toss up between this and the pinkquisition version.

[Caja]

A quick off topic question and I'm sorry about the derail and promise that I'll behave afterwards.

 

How do you call this English?

Spoiler

 

I looked it up in the dictionary and it's either called

1. Armor or

2. Harness.

 

I'm not happy with "armor" because this is an armor, too:

 

Spoiler

 

But I am refering to the piece of armor that only covers the entire torso, not the rest of the body. We would call it a harness in my language but when I looked "harness" up the translation was "horse-gear". So, now I'm confused.

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As for the dwarfs not being able to dream, my speculation is that it has something to do with their old and forgotten gods. Maybe the dwarfen gods were cut off from the fade somehow and as a result, the dwarfs were cut off too. And darkspawn have a "hive mind" (like the Borgs), so I am not sure how much room there is for one single darkspawn to dream. I assume that their minds function completely differently from humans and elfs.

[Dishycrazychick]

(Delurk) I would say breast plate maybe? (back to lurking)

[meanieweenie]

A quick off topic question and I'm sorry about the derail and promise that I'll behave afterwards.

 

How do you call this English?

Spoiler

 

 

Try "cuirass". I believe it would be accurate, as it covers front and back. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Yeah, leather cuirass seems like it would work. Or leather breastplate if you're worried readers won't know what cuirass means.

[Caja]

Thanks, guys. A cuirass as I know it would only cover the front, not the back but since you all agree on the word cuirass I will use it .

@ Dishycrazychick: LOL. Stay de-lurked. The more the merrier .

[Dishycrazychick]

Hehe thanks Caja the problem is I very rarely get a chance to be online for any length of time and when I do which is normally after I get tha kids in bed I just crash on the sofa and am unable to put together any coherent thought! :-)

[Caja]

Well, we won't go anywhere .

[Cerulione]

Are you talking about when she's working on the rune and talks about that weird episode where she was suddenly really tall? I don't think that was a dream in the regular sense so much as some kind of vision likely related to whatever crazy lyrium manipulation she was doing. She wasn't asleep at the time, for example. But what it *was*? I have no idea. Very, very tantalizing, tho.

 

Yup. What she described to me sounds like dream anyway... Or maybe a peek at the Fade? She never got one her entire life.

[MelissaGT]

Hey guys, not Cullen-related, but I wanted to share this soundtrack cover I came across on Spotify - I guess she arranged it for the fan contest:

 

 

And just for you Zarro...she does an amazing cover from FFX:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=xuaMMMMNhbc

[Zarro-Morningstar]

I've always thought that would be useful. Or to get an alert when someone quotes you... that'd be nice, too! 

You do...it's in your settings that you have change in your profile.

 

Hey guys, not Cullen-related, but I wanted to share this soundtrack cover I came across on Spotify - I guess she arranged it for the fan contest:

 

 

And just for you Zarro...she does an amazing cover from FFX:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=xuaMMMMNhbc

GAH! THANK YOU! *happy noises are happy*

[Teshayel]

*snip*

 

On darkspawn and the Fade... I could swear this was addressed in either Awakenings or the Calling. I'm pretty sure that darkspawn don't dream because they don't sleep. Just like they don't eat. They're just fueled off the Blight somehow. (that part is from the Calling) I thought the Fade and magic stuff might be touched upon in Awakenings... ? Dialogue with the talking darkspawn, or maybe part of convos with Justice about going into the Fade in the swamp...? I don't remember the details tho. 

 

Where's Elu?!? (and why don't we have a way of tagging people here?!? LOL)

 

About the Dark Spawn not eating... I started another Origins playthrough a while back, and I was given the distinct impression that they nibbled on the fallen soldiers at Ostagar. Would that be ritualistic?

[CuriousArtemis]

You do...it's in your settings that you have change in your profile.

 

WOOOOW Thank you!!

[R2s Muse]

About the Dark Spawn not eating... I started another Origins playthrough a while back, and I was given the distinct impression that they nibbled on the fallen soldiers at Ostagar. Would that be ritualistic?

Man, I dunno. Yeah, I remember that, too. Maybe it's just for reasons, erm, other than sustenance...? 

[Cerulione]

About the Dark Spawn not eating... I started another Origins playthrough a while back, and I was given the distinct impression that they nibbled on the fallen soldiers at Ostagar. Would that be ritualistic?

 

Hmm... IIRC in The Calling the guy who was turned into Darkspawn (Bregan or something like that, Genevieve's brother) did say something about not being hungry & not needing food anymore right?

[Zarro-Morningstar]

WOOOOW Thank you!!

Yeppers! Lol, it is really convenient! If I am busy reading, studying, writing, etc. Then I see a notification and I can click right on it and takes me to the post of where I was quote. 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

WOOOOW Thank you!!

It seems that the dreaded double posting has returned. 

[Teshayel]

Man, I dunno. Yeah, I remember that, too. Maybe it's just for reasons, erm, other than sustenance...? 

 

To instil fear, maybe? Or, it might just be yet another case of the writers not making up their mind about stuff. Like Ali and lyrium.

 

 

Hmm... IIRC in The Calling the guy who was turned into Darkspawn (Bregan or something like that, Genevieve's brother) did say something about not being hungry & not needing food anymore right?

 

Haven't read any DA books, so I dunno. But, yeah. Seems like in some instances what was given in the games is contradicted/retconned in the books.

[Tarlonniel]

BioWare is as bad with their continuity as some comic book companies Trying to explain varying accounts of events can lead to some really creative writing, though - or really lazy. Hopefully the former.

 

I was browsing Mr. Ellis' IMDb page yesterday and noticed Batman: The Brave and the Bold, which is a series I've owned for some time but hadn't gotten around to watching yet. Something to do while waiting for Patch 5!

[Caja]

About the Dark Spawn not eating... I started another Origins playthrough a while back, and I was given the distinct impression that they nibbled on the fallen soldiers at Ostagar. Would that be ritualistic?

 

 

Hmm... IIRC in The Calling the guy who was turned into Darkspawn (Bregan or something like that, Genevieve's brother) did say something about not being hungry & not needing food anymore right?

 

I remember that they don't have to eat because the taint is nurturing them. Nevertheless, they can eat. I always thought they nibbled on the soldiers just for fun .

[CuriousArtemis]

I remember that they don't have to eat because the taint is nurturing them. Nevertheless, they can eat. I always thought they nibbled on the soldiers just for fun .

 

Sounds like me and my candy stash late at night