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Tishina

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They are adult, consenting to read that... B)

LOL!! That'll put a stopper on all, ahem, NSFW plans! :lol:


The problem is, I'd never hear the end of it, lol. Never give your children ammunition to embarrass you, especially if you've had fun embarrassing them. (I should never have used Tishina as my SN...)
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Yup never give the kids ammution to use against you.

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No, it isn't. It's a screenshot from a game. Read the law referring to legal copyright and intellectual property.

 

If the player does not wish for their screenshots to be widely shared by people, then he or she must post them in a private album and place a watermark or some other form of identification on the images.

 

And btw, weren't those screenshots taken to be shared by other players? They were. They must be everywhere on the internet by now.

So why is the person complaining at all? What is it that she wants?

 

I do put watermarks on them. That doesn't stop people from editing or cropping them out. 

 

All I said is that if someone wants to post any form of someone's fanart, whether it be a screenshot, gif, whathaveyou, it should be directed back to the original person so they get credit. They are the one that took the time to make that piece of art. Someone has a right to complain if their hard work gets taken by someone who then claims it as theirs and gets traffic off of a lie. 

 

Also, it maybe a screenshot from a game, but it's not a vanilla screenshot. Can you show me any documentation that mentions screenshots that can't be reproduced (since they aren't from the vanilla in-game camera) and are as unique as actual photographs? Things like lighting, contrast, depth of field, tone mapping, etc etc are all taken into account, just like a photograph. None of that can be done with the in-game camera. 


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MelissaGT

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Oh, I LOVE the 68 Mustang, it's my second fave after the 69 Camaro. War's car was sex on wheels. And you definitely won't want to wait for season 10. Season 9 ends on something of a cliffhanger.

 

 

That's why I love my 2006 so much - Ford did such an awesome job when they released that generation in that the retro-style is so very similar to the '68. It may not be a classic, but whenever I talk to classic aficionados they always say that the '05 - '09 is their favorite of the "modern" generations.  



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RE: the moving in thing? I think he might do after the Winter Palace- revealing your relationship to the entire Orlesian court would probably count as going public and official. Before that, I'm not certain. Would he worry that shacking up with the Inquisitor might damage his standing with his men? Damage the Inquisitor's standing? I think he'd take things slowly in that respect, perhaps ending up gradually spending more and more time in her quarters until it becomes a bit of a moot point.

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I do put watermarks on them. That doesn't stop people from editing or cropping it out. 

 

All I said is that if someone wants to post any form of someone's fanart, whether it be a screenshot, gif, whathaveyou, it should be directed back to the original person so they get credit. They are the one that took the time to make that piece of art. Someone has a right to complain if their hard work gets taken by someone who then claims its theirs and gets traffic off a lie. 

 

If the work is yours, surely. If you wrote a book or a script, works with artistic photography, does theatre, cinema or is a singer, then by all means you are entitled to complain when someone steals your creation and claims it is theirs. That's called plagiarism and is considered a crime.

 

But the screenshots are not art. They are images of a game everyone plays. If they are posted online, then people are going to share them, doesn't matter how. That's the normal procedure.

 

I'm sorry, but those people are not doing anything wrong. No one is entitled to screenshots. If you had a lot of trouble to produce them, then all I can offer is some advice.

Post the screenshots somewhere private, for appreciation of only a few of your friends. If someone wants to share them, warn your friends with whom you've chosen to share them. That way, you control who has access to them.



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XD I was rather short for once, eh? I typically post such very detailed responses as to why my opinion is what it is, but to me that situation is really simple. Cullen is the type who stands in the background, but yearns to have someone grow close to him and accept him for who he is and what life he has led. If he has fallen so madly in love with the IQ as it seems he has, well, I don't see why he wouldn't move into the IQ's room or at least stay the night. He has nightmares and I have a feeling that she is one of the few things that sooth them or at least brings him comfort when he awakes.

 

I can see that. But then I am easily swayed when it comes to getting Cullen in the Inquisitor's bed :)

 

No, it isn't. It's a screenshot from a game. Read the law referring to legal copyright and intellectual property.

 

If the player does not wish for their screenshots to be widely shared by people, then he or she must post them in a private album and place a watermark or some other form of identification on the images.

 

And btw, weren't those screenshots taken to be shared by other players? They were. They must be everywhere on the internet by now.

So why is the person complaining at all? What is it that she wants?

 

Let me try this once, and then we can agree to disagree if that's the case.

 

She makes edits to those screenshots--lighting, color, shading etc. Since she has edited them, it is not just a BASIC screenshot/screengrab that anybody could post on the internet. She did work on them. So, for someone else to post them without crediting her, is basically that person saying, ">>I<< did the work on these screenshots." >>They<< are essentially assuming credit for the modifications >>she<< made. Which is kinda really not cool of them.

 

As for intellectual property--of course the LEGAL rights belong to Bioware/EA. We're talking courtesy and appreciation of the work she put in, here, not legalities.

 

I write fanfiction. If I write a story about DA characters, and someone copies and pastes that story into their journal etc. without crediting me, they are assuming credit for my work. That's still plagiarism, albeit the kind you can't sue over since the characters are not mine. But yes, still plagiarism. The same applies to fan art work of any kind.


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#127308
Cantina

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If the work is yours, surely. If you wrote a book or a script, works with artistic photography, does theatre, cinema or is a singer, then by all means you are entitled to complain when someone steals your creation and claims it is theirs. That's called plagiarism and is considered a crime.

 

But the screenshots are not art. They are images of a game everyone plays. If they are posted online, then people are going to share them, doesn't matter how. That's the normal procedure.

 

I'm sorry, but those people are not doing anything wrong. No one is entitled to screenshots. If you had a lot of trouble to produce them, then all I can offer is some advice.

Post the screenshots somewhere private, for appreciation of only a few of your friends. If someone wants to share them, warn your friends with whom you've chosen to share them. That way, you control who has access to them.

 

Ugh

 

Can you just stop please.

 

Go someone where else and preach your views.

 

We do not need this here.


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#127309
ModernAcademic

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I can see that. But then I am easily swayed when it comes to getting Cullen in the Inquisitor's bed :)

 

 

Let me try this once, and then we can agree to disagree if that's the case.

 

She makes edits to those screenshots--lighting, color, shading etc. Since she has edited them, it is not just a BASIC screenshot/screengrab that anybody could post on the internet. She did work on them. So, for someone else to post them without crediting her, is basically that person saying, ">>I<< did the work on these screenshots." >>They<< are essentially assuming credit for the modifications >>she<< made. Which is kinda really not cool of them.

 

As for intellectual property--of course the LEGAL rights belong to Bioware/EA. We're talking courtesy and appreciation of the work she put in, here, not legalities.

 

I write fanfiction. If I write a story about DA characters, and someone copies and pastes that story into their journal etc. without crediting me, they are assuming credit for my work. That's still plagiarism, albeit the kind you can't sue over since the characters are not mine. But yes, still plagiarism. The same applies to fan art work of any kind.

 

I've already given her some advice:

 

Post the screenshots somewhere private, for appreciation of only a few of your friends. If someone wants to share them, warn your friends with whom you've chosen to share them. That way, you control who has access to them.

 

And btw: 

 

Let me try this once, and then we can agree to disagree if that's the case.

 

 

There's no need to be rude and cynical, especially to people you don't know and have never talked to in person.



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ModernAcademic, if you want to continue arguing this point with Melissa, perhaps you should PM her and do so there. You guys are going off topic... and yes we do go off topic in this thread at times, but usually we keep it light and friendly. Less friendly OT stuff should definitely go to PMs.



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I've already given her some advice:

 

 

And what would be the point in me even taking them if I can't share them with anybody? This is the community that I enjoy sharing with. I'm a photographer irl that can't go out and enjoy my hobby due to the severe weather we've had this winter, so I scratch my "itch" with screenarchery. 

 

I started off sharing my work only in this thread, and then all of a sudden my screenshots were showing up on Tumblr posted by people claiming they were theirs. It's not like I'm trying to make money off them - I just want the common courtesy of listing me as the source, because I'm the one who has spent the time getting them. If they were just regular in-game shots I wouldn't give a rat's patootie, but they're not. 



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The problem is, I'd never hear the end of it, lol. Never give your children ammunition to embarrass you, especially if you've had fun embarrassing them. (I should never have used Tishina as my SN...)

 

I'm in a rather similar position actually, except that it's my Mom who found my Deviant Art ID... and Tumblr & AO3 & FF.Net... <_<

 

That's the reason I won't do NSFW stuffs. Nuh-uh, apparently my username has now circulated around the whole family since yesterday evening. AAAAAAARGH! :blink:

 

If the work is yours, surely. If you wrote a book or a script, works with artistic photography, does theatre, cinema or is a singer, then by all means you are entitled to complain when someone steals your creation and claims it is theirs. That's called plagiarism and is considered a crime.

 

But the screenshots are not art. They are images of a game everyone plays. If they are posted online, then people are going to share them, doesn't matter how. That's the normal procedure.

 

I'm sorry, but those people are not doing anything wrong. No one is entitled to screenshots. If you had a lot of trouble to produce them, then all I can offer is some advice.

Post the screenshots somewhere private, for appreciation of only a few of your friends. If someone wants to share them, warn your friends with whom you've chosen to share them. That way, you control who has access to them.

 

My condoleance.



#127313
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I can see that. But then I am easily swayed when it comes to getting Cullen in the Inquisitor's bed :)

 

 

Let me try this once, and then we can agree to disagree if that's the case.

 

She makes edits to those screenshots--lighting, color, shading etc. Since she has edited them, it is not just a BASIC screenshot/screengrab that anybody could post on the internet. She did work on them. So, for someone else to post them without crediting her, is basically that person saying, ">>I<< did the work on these screenshots." >>They<< are essentially assuming credit for the modifications >>she<< made. Which is kinda really not cool of them.

 

As for intellectual property--of course the LEGAL rights belong to Bioware/EA. We're talking courtesy and appreciation of the work she put in, here, not legalities.

 

I write fanfiction. If I write a story about DA characters, and someone copies and pastes that story into their journal etc. without crediting me, they are assuming credit for my work. That's still plagiarism, albeit the kind you can't sue over since the characters are not mine. But yes, still plagiarism. The same applies to fan art work of any kind.

I get ya! I think we all see Cullen a bit different. Some see him extremely disciplined and reserved, but others see him as someone who lets that go when he is with those he loves. However, not entirely of course. That is why I love Cullen...so many shades to that guy!



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MelissaGT

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ModernAcademic, if you want to continue arguing this point with Melissa, perhaps you should PM her and do so there. You guys are going off topic... and yes we do go off topic in this thread at times, but usually we keep it light and friendly. Less friendly OT stuff should definitely go to PMs.

 

No thanks, don't want his/her PM - not sure why he/she chose to all of a sudden start in on my screenshots out of nowhere, especially as a brand new member. 

 

I'm done talking about it - thank you all for being my defenders! *hugs*

 

*edit*

And because this is just the funniest thing ever...

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Well ModernAcademic is free to PM whomever s/he pleases; it is then up to the other person to respond or not respond :) But I think this OT discussion should definitely stop NOW, as it is only ruffling feathers (perhaps intentionally) and will draw attention from mods.



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No thanks, don't want his/her PM - not sure why he/she chose to all of a sudden start in on my screenshots out of nowhere, especially as a brand new member. 

 

I'm done talking about it - thank you all for being my defenders! *hugs*

What kind of friends would we be if we did not have your back?

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I've already given her some advice:

 

 

And btw: "Let me try this once, and then we can agree to disagree if that's the case."

 

 

There's no need to be rude and cynical, especially to people you don't know and have never talked to in person.

 

 

"Let me try this once" as in, I was going to try once, and now I am done.



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cullen-news-screenshot_v1.jpg

 

 

I've always LOVED this shot of Cullen. Cannot explain the reason.,.:P

 

Anyone notice the back-drop is Solas's room.

 

Wonder if there was a scene that got remove to where Cullen was in there? Or its just for this screen shot purpose.

 

Hmm.

 

:D


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No thanks, don't want his/her PM - not sure why he/she chose to all of a sudden start in on my screenshots out of nowhere, especially as a brand new member. 

 

I'm done talking about it - thank you all for being my defenders! *hugs*

 

Alright, my last post for this topic.

 

I want to thank you Mel for taking all those shots. If it has not yet been considered (fan)art, then you have brought it to a level where I consider it art. I'm in Tumblr & Deviant Art. I'll help keep an eye for you & Cantina.


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#127320
ModernAcademic

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ModernAcademic, if you want to continue arguing this point with Melissa, perhaps you should PM her and do so there. You guys are going off topic... and yes we do go off topic in this thread at times, but usually we keep it light and friendly. Less friendly OT stuff should definitely go to PMs.

 

I wasn't arguing. Someone quoted what I said about legal copyright regarding the girl's complaint and kept replying. Then other people joined in the conversation.

 

Since people can't have a normal conversation without resorting to offence, it's best not to give them fodder.

 

 

You make a normal observation about an ordinary subject showing very calmly why the law doesn't work in a certain way and people come out of nowhere to throw stones at you.

I'm sorry, but some people seriously need to reevaluate their posture.

 

I don't think I'll be coming back here anytime soon. Have fun among yourselves. o/



#127321
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Probably for screenshot purposes. The lighting in Solas' room is very haunting if you get close up on the face.

Example:

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#127322
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cullen-news-screenshot_v1.jpg

 

 

I've always LOVED this shot of Cullen. Cannot explain the reason.,. :P

 

Anyone notice the back-drop is Solas's room.

 

Wonder if there was a scene that got remove to where Cullen was in there? Or its just for this screen shot purpose.

 

Hmm.

 

:D

 

They're not above it. One of the promo screenies on Cullen has actually him holding up the Inquisitor's sword.

 

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#127323
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They're not above it. One of the promo screenies on Cullen has actually him holding up the Inquisitor's sword.

 

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Oh! I never noticed that! :o



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Hi everyone. Let's stay on topic and take personal debates to PMs. Thank you.



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Some promo screen, he got a lion helm, too bad he didnt keep ii ... like in arbor wild :lol: