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I think I can say that had my once trusted boss gone bat sh!t crazy and proclaimed all *insert whatever things* are evil and should be destroyed without exception, I may choose to divorce myself from the institution completely as well. Cullen is still there fighting the good fight - just on a new team now. Plus he gets to shag my Inquisitor so... bonus!  ^_^

 

 

I just don't like that it all happened in between games so we missed out on that character development from him. And I kind of wanted to go snooping and find a templar shield tucked away in the corner of his room or something. Just a little nod to his former profession, something that he lived and breathed for over half his life. I guess we have his gauntlets for that though but a shield would have been cooler. 

 

I like that he has become his own man though, and has found his place away from the order. And I also like that my Inquisitor gets to sha-bang-bang with him.  ;)

Yeah. Like I told Cullen himself, sure, I understand why he'd want nothing to do with that life. But... he was working in Kirkwall for quite a while after Meredith went postal, doing a job that in some world states wasn't even officially his. What exactly made him quit? And when? Did Cass swing by his office after interrogating Varric at Hawke's house? Did Leliana come along, too? Was it hard to take Cass's offer and leave Kirkwall to its own devices? Or was it easy? What the heck was going on with red lyrium there that bothered Hawke so much? Did he know about it? Is the Inquisition what he thought it would be? Did the Order care that he quit? Or was it no big deal since he was working for the Divine? questionsquestions


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Basically, too few questions we had about Cullen before were actually answered with this character rebranding of sorts, and too many more have now been left open in their stead. It's a weird place to be if you liked the idea of Cullen as a Templar who represented the better ideals of the Order, since that aspect of him is completely gone now, with almost no context to justify it.

 

 

Yeah. Like I told Cullen himself, sure, I understand why he'd want nothing to do with that life. But... he was working in Kirkwall for quite a while after Meredith went postal, doing a job that in some world states wasn't even officially his. What exactly made him quit? And when? Did Cass swing by his office after interrogating Varric at Hawke's house? Did Leliana come along, too? Was it hard to take Cass's offer and leave Kirkwall to its own devices? Or was it easy? What the heck was going on with red lyrium there that bothered Hawke so much? Did he know about it? Is the Inquisition what he thought it would be? Did the Order care that he quit? Or was it no big deal since he was working for the Divine? questionsquestions

Agree and agree. Ah, if only someone would write me some fic to fill in all these unanswered questions and holes.... 


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The analogy breaks down, though, in that even after his boss went crazy, Cullen still raised his stapler at her and proclaimed for all the office to hear that he still believed in the company. Fast forward four years, and suddenly we get a Cullen who not only resigned, but now spends most of his time trash-talking the company he was supposedly so loyal to that he would turn against his boss to preserve, and very little context for this change.

 

What happened offscreen throughout these four years to make him hate the Templars so much now? All the reasons he does give in DAI are issues he already had to deal with in DA2, and he had previously worked through them in ways that left him painfully aware of the Order's shortcomings, but never resentful of it. So what changed that his tone is so bitter now? We don't actually know, but we're asked to agree with this change in his character's direction anyway.

 

I'm in the same place as R2, still trying to process how we went from "Cullen will always be loyal to the ideals of the Templars" to "Cullen doesn't even wanna talk about the Templars" - maybe there was context there, and maybe it would even have been credible, but we never got that context beyond a vague sense of disappointment and bitterness, and that leaves his character development feeling a bit... forced. For people who wanted Cullen to divorce himself from the Templars, that sudden change might be great even if it's not well explained because the end goal of "Cullen also resents the Templars now" is more important than the question of why; but for those who expected him to remain, as R2 perfectly puts, "a templar forever in some ways, whether he was technically employed by them or not," it's still very hard to reconcile DA2 Cullen and DAI Cullen into the same character without feeling like way too much was brushed under the rug, or that the writing asks us to pretend far too much of his previous characterization was never there to force this new perspective onto him.

 

Basically, too few questions we had about Cullen before were actually answered with this character rebranding of sorts, and too many more have now been left open in their stead. It's a weird place to be if you liked the idea of Cullen as a Templar who represented the better ideals of the Order, since that aspect of him is completely gone now, with almost no context to justify it.

Yeah... it's the time gap that really just doesn't make sense to me (as usual, so maybe it's just another oversight in the writing *sigh* half the time the devs forget there are three years between the Chantry blowup and the interrogation...). If all the crap went down with Meredith, and he was like, frak this noise, I'm out, I could see it more. That really seemed like the straw that broke the bronto's back, so I could see that being a crisis point for him.

 

But he doesn't.

 

He spends the next three years in Kirkwall running the templars there, rebuilding the city, presumably finally running things the way he'd want them to be run. In a pro-mage Hawke world, he's doing the job without even the promotion. Without it even being his job to do so. Why? Why stay and do his best when he wants nothing to do with that life? (this is independent of all the questions about who's job it actually *was* in the event that he was only the knight-captain.  I mean, was there a knight-commander, and Cullen did that dude's job? Or was no one ever promoted, out of spite or punishment toward Cullen, and they just left him to do the hard work without the increase in salary and prestige?) 

 

I could see the Inquisition being a unique new career opportunity, but it still begs the question why he's suddenly so bitter and cutting ties so utterly with his old life. Suddenly, after three  years. 

 

Anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some of my own ideas and start writing them down. :)


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For people who wanted Cullen to divorce himself from the Templars, that sudden change might be great even if it's not well explained because the end goal of "Cullen also resents the Templars now" is more important than the question of why;

Speaking as someone who doesn't find it a logical leap at all, for me at least it's not "I wanted Cullen to hate the Templars, damn the storytelling / characterization consequences!" It's that if someone asked me at the end of DA2 to extrapolate how he'd feel about templars in DA:I, I would have said (did say, I'm pretty sure) that I expected him to be very disillusioned with them, possibly even to the point of being more angry with Meredith than with Uldred. I think what we see in DA:I is a guy with very mixed feelings. His codex entry makes it sound like leaving was something he had to pray long and hard about, he still does speak highly about the Templar ideals and about the individual Templars in the Inquisition, and he still slightly prefers their help sealing the breach. He also won't hear Samson's jabs about the Chantry. All of the negative things I can think of him saying sum up to his feeling like he was used by them and deceived by Meredith in particular, and his not wanting a romanced quasi-Templar Inquisitor to be used the same way. It seems to me like he has kept the Order's ideals in his heart but, always a pragmatist, feels that the Inquisition is a more reliable way to serve them.

 

If I get a chance this weekend I'm hoping to ask a dev about Viscount Hawke's saying the Kirkwall Templars starting taking the red stuff and turned on her (and the BSN's confusion, given that Cullen was the Knight-Commander and hates red lyrium). I wonder if they had a consistent explanation in mind there that they just didn't have time to elaborate on in the final game (I should look for evidence of that in the talk tables as well). If so, maybe something else did happen in the two(?)-year gap that makes it even more logical.


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I'm not very clear on the timeline of all this stuff, but hadn't the mage/templar war been going on for years by the time of Inquisition? Since Cullen was still in Kirkwall, not off fighting mages, maybe the Order had already written him off as having "quit."

 

To be honest, the only thing Cullen-related thing I had any problem with in Inquistion was the revelation that templars in Kirkwall had started taking red lyrium (and driven Hawke out of the city!). Wut? Nothing to say about that, Cullen? :blink:

 

Why? Why stay and do his best when he wants nothing to do with that life?

 

I just figure he felt he had no other good options - not until Cassandra came along.



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Hi! I'm kind of new to this thread, nice to meet you :)

 

I wanted to say that I don't feel like he hates the Templars? (...)

 

Unless there's something I'm missing. Does he act differently if you side with the Templars as allies? Because I haven't tried that yet. That'll be my next play through.

 

Hi! Welcome to the madhouse! :lol:

 

You're right in that the doesn't hate Templars, I was being hyperbolic. He mostly resents the Order, and the Chantry itself most of all. (Although that is perfectly on point, and I was very glad to see it. The Chantry has treated its Templars incredibly poorly -Justinia in particular pulled quite the gaslighting number in throwing the entire Order under the bus and then claiming they did it to themselves- and it was very satisfying to see both Cullen and Samson acknowledge that and call the root of their resentment out for what it is)

 

There is a perceptual different tone in Cullen's relationship with the Order if you side with the Templars, yeah. Through the mage side, his subplot with Samson and all the questions about his feelings about mages sort of dominate his character, preventing more exploration of his relationship with the Templar Order itself and the Chantry at large. Through the Templar side explore more of that and see more of Cullen's attitude and feelings in regards to those even throughout the war table missions involving the recruited Templars and Ser Barris.

 

Regardless, I recommend playing through the Templar side at least once, not even just for Cullen, but because there's a lot of interesting stuff all around to see and learn about the Templars there that you don't get to see from the other side.



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He spends the next three years in Kirkwall running the templars there, rebuilding the city, presumably finally running things the way he'd want them to be run. In a pro-mage Hawke world, he's doing the job without even the promotion. Without it even being his job to do so. Why? Why stay and do his best when he wants nothing to do with that life? (this is independent of all the questions about who's job it actually *was* in the event that he was only the knight-captain.  I mean, was there a knight-commander, and Cullen did that dude's job? Or was no one ever promoted, out of spite or punishment toward Cullen, and they just left him to do the hard work without the increase in salary and prestige?) 

 

I could see the Inquisition being a unique new career opportunity, but it still begs the question why he's suddenly so bitter and cutting ties so utterly with his hold life. Suddenly, after three  years. 

 

Anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some of my own ideas and start writing them down. :)

I think I kind of rationalized it in my mind that Cullen felt a certain amount of responsibility and guilt over "letting" things get as far gone as they did. In retrospect he could see that Meredith had flown the coop long before Anders  decided to have his BBQ so once all the dust settled he stayed to try to remedy as much as he could, all the while becoming more bitter and also resentful of the lyrium leash. 


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I'm not very clear on the timeline of all this stuff, but hadn't the mage/templar war been going on for years by the time of Inquisition? Since Cullen was still in Kirkwall, not off fighting mages, maybe the Order had already written him off as having "quit."

No, Asunder ended in 9:40 Dragon and Inquisition starts in 9:41 Dragon.


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Speaking as someone who doesn't find it a logical leap at all, for me at least it's not "I wanted Cullen to hate the Templars, damn the storytelling / characterization consequences!" It's that if someone asked me at the end of DA2 to extrapolate how he'd feel about templars in DA:I, I would have said (did say, I'm pretty sure) that I expected him to be very disillusioned with them, possibly even to the point of being more angry with Meredith than with Uldred. I think what we see in DA:I is a guy with very mixed feelings. His codex entry makes it sound like leaving was something he had to pray long and hard about, he still does speak highly about the Templar ideals and about the individual Templars in the Inquisition, and he still slightly prefers their help sealing the breach. He also won't hear Samson's jabs about the Chantry. All of the negative things I can think of him saying sum up to his feeling like he was used by them and deceived by Meredith in particular, and his not wanting a romanced quasi-Templar Inquisitor to be used the same way. It seems to me like he has kept the Order's ideals in his heart but, always a pragmatist, feels that the Inquisition is a more reliable way to serve them.

 

If I get a chance this weekend I'm hoping to ask a dev about Viscount Hawke's saying the Kirkwall Templars starting taking the red stuff and turned on her (and the BSN's confusion, given that Cullen was the Knight-Commander and hates red lyrium). I wonder if they had a consistent explanation in mind there that they just didn't have time to elaborate on in the final game (I should look for evidence of that in the talk tables as well). If so, maybe something else did happen in the two(?)-year gap that makes it even more logical.

I sorta agree, in that I don't think he hates the Order. But he very clearly has divorced himself from it, and it's not clear to me that the Meredith stuff should be the reason. The thing is, even in DA2 he makes a very special point of separating the Order from Meredith. He says it explicitly several times, wondering whether he follows her or the Order. When he asks her to step down, it's because what she's doing "isn't what the Order stands for." So he seems to recognize that she's the wildcard, not the Order itself.

 

So, why then turn on the whole thing? I could see it if he's turned against, say, what Lambert wanted to turn it into. But they never address that in DA:I. What he's against is how it has dominated his whole life, for 17ish years, and leashed him with lyrium, according to dai!Cullen. That seems to be less about what Meredith did and more about the Order has done to him his whole life. So what catalyzed that? 


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Hi! Welcome to the madhouse! :lol:

 

You're right in that the doesn't hate Templars, I was being hyperbolic. He mostly resents the Order, and the Chantry itself most of all (although that is perfectly on point, and I was very glad to see - the Chantry has treated its Templars incredibly poorly, and it was very satisfying to see both Cullen and Samson acknowledge that and call the root of their resentment out for what it is).

 

There is a perceptual different tone in Cullen's relationship with the Order if you side with the Templars, yeah. Through the mage side, his subplot with Samson and all the questions about his feelings about mages sort of dominate his character, preventing more exploration of his relationship with the Templar Order itself and the Chantry at large. Through the Templar side explore more of that and see more of Cullen's attitude and feelings in regards to those even throughout the war table missions involving the recruited Templars and Ser Barris.

 

Regardless, I recommend playing through the Templar side at least once, not even just for Cullen, but because there's a lot of interesting stuff all around to see and learn about the Templars there that you don't get to see from the other side.

 

Say, is there lots of differences of Templar & Mages side after Temple of Mythal? I erased the only PT I got with Templars just before I got to Temple of Mythal



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Say, is there lots of differences of Templar & Mages side after Temple of Mythal? I erased the only PT I got with Templars just before I got to Temple of Mythal

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Say, is there lots of differences of Templar & Mages side after Temple of Mythal? I erased the only PT I got with Templars just before I got to Temple of Mythal

 

You mean at the endgame, after the Arbor Wilds? No difference that I can remember. Granted, I only finished one playthrough from the mage side, but I don't recall any significant difference past the beginning of "Act 3" (when we randomly shift the whole game into elven lore) for any choice you make, whether it's Templars/mages, Wardens/not, Celene/Gaspard, etc. The endgame is very streamlined and doesn't leave much to variables.

 

Most of the differences I've noticed between either side go through what I consider "Act 2" -Skyhold, Wardens, the Fade, Civil War, Red.T, Venatori- on a "normal" game (that is, considering you complete all the side quests and war table missions before heading into the final assault in the Arbor Wilds).



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Zippo

 

Meow??? :huh:

 

You mean at the endgame, after the Arbor Wilds? No difference that I can remember. Granted, I only finished one playthrough from the mage side, but I don't recall any significant difference past the beginning of "Act 3" (when we randomly shift the whole game into elven lore) for any choice you make, whether it's Templars/mages, Wardens/not, Celene/Gaspard, etc. The endgame is very streamlined and doesn't leave much to variables.

 

Most of the differences I've noticed between either side go through what I consider "Act 2" -Skyhold, Wardens, the Fade, Civil War, Red.T, Venatori- on a "normal" game (that is, considering you complete all the side quests and war table missions before heading into the final assault in the Arbor Wilds).

 

Ah ok, thanks



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Hi! Welcome to the madhouse! :lol:

 

You're right in that the doesn't hate Templars, I was being hyperbolic. He mostly resents the Order, and the Chantry itself most of all. (Although that is perfectly on point, and I was very glad to see it. The Chantry has treated its Templars incredibly poorly -Justinia in particular pulled quite the gaslighting number in throwing the entire Order under the bus and then claiming they did it to themselves- and it was very satisfying to see both Cullen and Samson acknowledge that and call the root of their resentment out for what it is)

 

There is a perceptual different tone in Cullen's relationship with the Order if you side with the Templars, yeah. Through the mage side, his subplot with Samson and all the questions about his feelings about mages sort of dominate his character, preventing more exploration of his relationship with the Templar Order itself and the Chantry at large. Through the Templar side explore more of that and see more of Cullen's attitude and feelings in regards to those even throughout the war table missions involving the recruited Templars and Ser Barris.

 

Regardless, I recommend playing through the Templar side at least once, not even just for Cullen, but because there's a lot of interesting stuff all around to see and learn about the Templars there that you don't get to see from the other side.

 

Yes, I was glad to see his anger centered on the Chantry and the Order as well.

 

Huh, okay. In my current play through I sided with the Templars, but I disbanded them (conscripted them). I kept Ser Barris alive at Therinfal Redoubt, but I apparently have the bug that keeps me from getting his war table missions, so I haven't gotten to experience that yet. I plan on going full on allies with the Templars next play through and hopefully next time the war table missions will trigger and I'll get a better look at what you're talking about. The way this play through has been it's almost like I didn't side with the Templars at all for all I've seen/heard from them. I'm definitely interested to see all the differences, but I am especially curious about the differences in Cullen.



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So, why then turn on the whole thing? I could see it if he's turned against, say, what Lambert wanted to turn it into. But they never address that in DA:I. What he's against is how it has dominated his whole life, for 17ish years, and leashed him with lyrium, according to dai!Cullen. That seems to be less about what Meredith did and more about the Order has done to him his whole life. So what catalyzed that? 

Maybe he feels that exactly that dedication to the Order is what blinded him to Meredith's problems. It's obvious that there's a lot he didn't know during DA2 about what was going on in Kirkwall that he's learned in the years since, and learning all that after the fact seems to have shaken him deeply.


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I dunno.

 

For me I liked how it was.

 

Considering all the crap Cullen has been through when he was apart of the Order, I'm surprised after the events in Fereldan he did not just say, "Screw this."

 

Granted it is a little weird not seeing him in his Templar dress but that has been fading.

I'm more of this mind. I can totally see why he would leave.  He just isn't given the game time to express the story which leaves a lot unsaid and that may not be a bad thing.  It leaves a lot of room for head canon, which I like.  And there is only so much game time to had too.



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The analogy breaks down, though, in that even after his boss went crazy, Cullen still raised his stapler at her and proclaimed for all the office to hear that he still believed in the company. Fast forward four years, and suddenly we get a Cullen who not only resigned, but now spends most of his time trash-talking the company he was supposedly so loyal to that he would turn against his boss to preserve, and very little context for this change.

 

What happened offscreen throughout these four years to make him hate the Templars so much now? All the reasons he does give in DAI are issues he already had to deal with in DA2, and he had previously worked through them in ways that left him painfully aware of the Order's shortcomings, but never resentful of it. So what changed that his tone is so bitter now? We don't actually know, but we're asked to agree with this change in his character's direction anyway.

 

I'm in the same place as R2, still trying to process how we went from "Cullen will always be loyal to the ideals of the Templars" to "Cullen doesn't even wanna talk about the Templars" - maybe there was context there, and maybe it would even have been credible, but we never got that context beyond a vague sense of disappointment and bitterness, and that leaves his character development feeling a bit... forced. For people who wanted Cullen to divorce himself from the Templars, that sudden change might be great even if it's not well explained because the end goal of "Cullen also resents the Templars now" is more important than the question of why; but for those who expected him to remain, as R2 perfectly puts, "a templar forever in some ways, whether he was technically employed by them or not," it's still very hard to reconcile DA2 Cullen and DAI Cullen into the same character without feeling like way too much was brushed under the rug, or that the writing asks us to pretend far too much of his previous characterization was never there to force this new perspective onto him.

 

Basically, too few questions we had about Cullen before were actually answered with this character rebranding of sorts, and too many more have now been left open in their stead. It's a weird place to be if you liked the idea of Cullen as a Templar who represented the better ideals of the Order, since that aspect of him is completely gone now, with almost no context to justify it.

 

The bigger questions: How can Cullen not be bitter?

 

Sure, Cullen was a man who believed in the Order, believed they could in fact protect people-he wanted to be a Templar since he was a boy. Then after all the years of training he dons the Templar Order uniform and feels he has gone beyond what his family expect from him-planting fields.

 

Not long after The Feredlan Circle fell and he was mentally tortured- watching his friends die by the hands of Blood Mages. Cole even says to your Inquisitor, that the questions the demons asked Cullen still hurt him.

 

Then he was shipped off to Kirkwall.  Within a few years Cullen starts to question Meredith and as he says in DA2, “I am not sure if I am serving the order or serving Meredith.” Cullen wants to serve the Order, he wants to do his duty. But how can Cullen do this when his own boss is falling to pieces? Then later The Circle Tower falls, Meradith goes insane. Cullen finally sees his boss for who she is: a zealot twisted by red lyrium and her fear of Mages. While Cullen is fearful of Mages, he however does not agree with how to handle the Mages-kill them all.

 

For the next three years Cullen spends his time trying to do what he can to keep the order together, to make them stand for what they are supposed to represent-protecting people from magic. No doubt it was during this time Cullen may have thought to himself such things as: “What happens if I continue to serve, would I be subjected to another downfall that damages my mental state and how the Order should be?

 

It is one thing to endure a single crisis but to have another crisis happen again, sometimes the best thing to do is to change course.  And this is what Cullen chose to do. Cassandra recruits him into The Inquisition. By this point Cullen still respects The Order but does not agree with how they are choosing to act. He believes the Order should do what they are meant to do-protect people not seek out their own ambitious goals that are against The Order oath, as it were.

 

As the story progresses, Cullen becomes more irritated with The Order. They are falling further and further away from their cause. Samson of course does nothing to help with this. It’s hard for Cullen not to be bitter in how the Templars have become.

 

If he was that little boy again and saw what The Templars are now, I doubt he would have such dreams to join them. Cullen in a way as a child idolize The Order and for someone to come along and shatter that boyhood idolization into a million pieces, makes him furious. It’s a slow climb, a slow death. While Cullen is glad to not be a part of that downward spiral, he sometimes comes across as helpless as if he can do nothing about it. Thus I believe it adds to his anger.  

 

When it comes to Cullen, in my opinion the developers did an amazing job-though I will say I wish the whole lyrium thing was a bit more involved. The fact is, the pace of how Cullen feels towards the Templar Order is fine, nothing wrong with it. You just have to take a step back and understand why Cullen is bitter and there is a reason. A reason I cannot blame him for.

 

Cullen downward spiral about the Order slowly began in Origins, we just ended up getting tossed into the tailspin in DAI.

 

In the end though it does make me a little sad to see Cullen’s childhood dream be smashed into a million pieces and there is nothing that can be done to fix it. 

 

Sometimes traumatic events take far more time to let go and start again, it just depends on who you are and when you are ready, if you ever are.

 

Perhaps Cullen finding love (if it happens) allows him to use that new form of strength to understand, its time to let go and it will be OK.

 

 

And I seem to have written an essay, ugh, sorry about that. :o


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Meow??? :huh:

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I think I kind of rationalized it in my mind that Cullen felt a certain amount of responsibility and guilt over "letting" things get as far gone as they did. In retrospect he could see that Meredith had flown the coop long before Anders  decided to have his BBQ so once all the dust settled he stayed to try to remedy as much as he could, all the while becoming more bitter and also resentful of the lyrium leash.

Maybe he feels that exactly that dedication to the Order is what blinded him to Meredith's problems. It's obvious that there's a lot he didn't know during DA2 about what was going on in Kirkwall that he's learned in the years since.

It could be those things. We've never heard him say anything about lyrium before, so for all we know he's had those issues for a while. But that's a separate issue from what he told us happened with Meredith. He talks about individual trust issues with her, and how she hid things from  him that he wouldn't agree with. So, sure, we can connect the dots, and the writers probably did in some simplified way, but what we hear in DA:I is an extremely simplified version that I don't find satisfactory. There's a story there in Kirkwall after 9:37. I wish we'd hear what it was.
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Anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some of my own ideas and start writing them down. :)

 

*see the words "start writing" in a post by R2*

 

*ugly fangirlish squeal*

 

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*see the words "start writing" in a post by R2*
 
*ugly fangirlish squeal*
 
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aw, shucks.  :blush:

 

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Owlfruit Potion

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(Did you guys know the DA:I Tapestry is up now in the Keep??)


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R2s Muse

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(Did you guys know the DA:I Tapestry is up now in the Keep??)

squeee! But... why are all the tiles hidden...? It says they're hidden if I haven't unlocked that quest, but I'm on playthrough #2...  :blink:



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nyxocity

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(Did you guys know the DA:I Tapestry is up now in the Keep??)

 

I think EVERYONE must be trying to log in right now because I keep getting error 500 when I try  :lol:



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alwayshungry

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squeee! But... why are all the tiles hidden...? It says they're hidden if I haven't unlocked that quest, but I'm on playthrough #2...  :blink:

There's a tutorial and a troubleshooting thingy here: http://forum.bioware...ition-tapestry/