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Ceru, I think it all depends on what you want to get out of your art. Personally, I don't agree with some of your fanart cons, because I don't think you need to follow the canon nor do I think you need to worry about BW taking your creation ( they can stop you from making money off it, but I don't think there much else to worry about given their support of fanart). I also don't think you should worry about about what viewers want unless it's a big motivator for you to have lots of likes and accolades. But that's also a trade off, because you have built in audience with fanart... but have to build your own audience for original work.

Now if you want to create something where sky's the limit on the story you tell, then, that seems like a good reason to go original.

But again, I think only you know how important these factors are for you.

 

Thanks for the insight ;)

 

I know that my reasonings are not perfect, neither that list. It's just something I'm thinking because this kid's story does not need to happen at Thedas: it's easier if I just take Thedas as background, but not a requirement.

 

And about audience, basically I created her as the result of musings with two different people: one Cullenite & my RL friend. Up to now I mostly draw things that's the result of interactions with people around me. It's not the accolade/kudos/like that count, but is there any audience that may allow interactions to help fuel & tone the story. I'm still new to this "creative" world. No idea how it'll turn out in the future but I'd want to help directing this.

 

Also, I'm seriously afraid that if Cullen or the quizzy got killed in future BW installment, I won't have a heart to continue anymore... making a character like this makes me attached so much (I already got attached to this girl just because of the dozen sketches I did on her). Imagine I draw her a lot & suddenly Cullent got killed?

 

Well, that's just my ramblings. Sorry. :blink:


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[Cullen] ...and then traveled by ship to Kirkwall. I'd lived in the middle of a lake. I thought I was prepared for sea travel...


I love this one. I always headcanon him being seasick in the ship from Kirkwall. LOL
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I love this one. I always headcanon him being seasick in the ship from Kirkwall. LOL

 

That's not only your headcannon...

 

IIRC Varric-BW got a banter if you bring them to Storm Coast. Basically Varric was saying that Curly has a "special feeling" or something like that about sea travel. From his tone & context Cullen got real sick during the sea voyage...  :rolleyes: 


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Also, I'm seriously afraid that if Cullen or the quizzy got killed in future BW installment, I won't have a heart to continue anymore... making a character like this makes me attached so much (I already got attached to this girl just because of the dozen sketches I did on her). Imagine I draw her a lot & suddenly Cullent got killed?

 

Well, that's just my ramblings. Sorry. :blink:

I don't think that Cullen gets killed so I wouldn't worry about it. Actually, I think his story is complete now and I don't see any reason why BioWare would change that. But even if he would die, wouldn't that lead to some new content you could explore with your character, the kid? I'm thinking about Harry Potter, for example. He was an orphant and I always liked this particular background and how it played a part in the books. Also, you could always pretend that your kid grows up in an alternative universe where Cullen did not die.

My point is that something that might happen shouldn't stop you from exploring the things you are interested in.


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*snip*

 

Bwahahahahahaha this is excellent. But I'd think he would've been on the deck... leaning against the rail on one side... vomiting...

 

:lol:



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Here ya go:

 

[Cullen] [unknown plot condition (if slept together?)] Rooms in the Fereldan Circle were shared. Beval requested a transfer because apparently I talk in my sleep

 

While I like all this, I still think it's awesome when I see a random DA name of an NPC in NWN2. :)



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[Cullen] [if Cullen romance active] Honestly, I couldn't keep my eyes off you. But we'd only just met.
 

I'm sorry, but....AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH. I need a moment to freak the **** out over this line that could have been. 

 

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Cerulione about your dilemma. Honestly I don't see it as an issue in any light. Lots of artists use the same shell of a character across multiple fandoms. Basically same character with different backstrories. The simplest example I can think of are OC superheroes/superheroines from the DC universe being inserted into the Marvel universe and visaversa. I don't see any reason why you can't do both? Unless I'm misinterpreting something in your op. Why not develop her as her own character and then insert her into the DA universe? And of course fanart is real art. It's just easier for artists to gain a fan base through fanart because it's popular and attracts attention better. But you always make art for yourself not what others want unless you're taking paid commissions.
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Wow still getting used to forums on mobile. Why is spell check failing me.... Is there way to edit posts lol.

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I must have missed something - what is this from?



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[Cullen] [if Cullen romance active] Honestly, I couldn't keep my eyes off you. But we'd only just met.
 

Damn! Such a shame this was not in the final version of the game. :(



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Wow still getting used to forums on mobile. Why is spell check failing me.... Is there way to edit posts lol.

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I must have missed something - what is this from?

 

DA2 character swap. About Cullen in a ship...


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I must have missed something - what is this from?

Um, my brain. :D and my DA2 game.

[[It's a swap of Hawke sailing from Lothering.]]

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Touch your post, and the edit button will show up.


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That's not only your headcannon...

 

IIRC Varric-BW got a banter if you bring them to Storm Coast. Basically Varric was saying that Curly has a "special feeling" or something like that about sea travel. From his tone & context Cullen got real sick during the sea voyage...  :rolleyes:

I've heard that too but I believe Varric did too in another line out there.



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Damn! Such a shame this was not in the final version of the game. :(

Either it just got cut because it was part of a "hang time with Cullen" cutscene or because they didn't want to ruin head canon for those who liked to imagine their relationship was a slow burn. But i'm with you.



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Either it just got cut because it was part of a "hang time with Cullen" cutscene or because they didn't want to ruin head canon for those who liked to imagine their relationship was a slow burn. But i'm with you.

 

I'd still wager most who'd like to imagine their relationship was a slow burn wouldn't complain much either... I mean people do headcannons because the writers left things hanging...



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I don't think that Cullen gets killed so I wouldn't worry about it. Actually, I think his story is complete now and I don't see any reason why BioWare would change that. But even if he would die, wouldn't that lead to some new content you could explore with your character, the kid? I'm thinking about Harry Potter, for example. He was an orphant and I always liked this particular background and how it played a part in the books. Also, you could always pretend that your kid grows up in an alternative universe where Cullen did not die.

My point is that something that might happen shouldn't stop you from exploring the things you are interested in.

 

I really don't think his story is complete, particularly due to the outstanding lyrium issue. If he stops taking it, we still don't know if it will have any sort of permanent effect. He's still suffering withdrawal by the end of the game. If he starts taking it again, we don't see that effect either, whether he continues taking it or "finds another way." I think Bioware will need to expand upon what that "other way is" and if it's actually successful in order to finish his story. 

 

There could also be hidden repercussions that we can't even fathom. Imagine if he did go insane or die because the IQ told him to not take the lyrium? Wouldn't that be a complete kick in the pants - that telling him to "find another way" was actually the "better" answer? Or maybe he'll never "find another way." We really have no idea. 



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[Cullen] [if Cullen romance active] Honestly, I couldn't keep my eyes off you. But we'd only just met.

 

*dies of squee*

 

Thank you!!!


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I really don't think his story is complete, particularly due to the outstanding lyrium issue. If he stops taking it, we still don't know if it will have any sort of permanent effect. He's still suffering withdrawal by the end of the game. If he starts taking it again, we don't see that effect either, whether he continues taking it or "finds another way." I think Bioware will need to expand upon what that "other way is" and if it's actually successful in order to finish his story. 

 

There could also be hidden repercussions that we can't even fathom. Imagine if he did go insane or die because the IQ told him to not take the lyrium? Wouldn't that be a complete kick in the pants - that telling him to "find another way" was actually the "better" answer? Or maybe he'll never "find another way." We really have no idea. 

Look what they are doing with the HoF though - their story really isn't finished (unless they are dead) yet it seems that Bioware thinks so. And Cullen is a side character.  A very precious and important one, but not the protag. Believe me I want to see more of Cullen but I'm just not sure what will happen.


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There could also be hidden repercussions that we can't even fathom. Imagine if he did go insane or die because the IQ told him to not take the lyrium? Wouldn't that be a complete kick in the pants - that telling him to "find another way" was actually the "better" answer? Or maybe he'll never "find another way." We really have no idea.


That really would suck considering he'll break up with you if you tell him to stay on lyrium and getting off it is what he really wants. If anything he might go off the deep end and you have to save him somehow but I don't think they'd kill him.

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Sorry to switch gears, I've been chatting on Tumblr with someone who studied game design, does 3d animations and has friends in the industry and she claims that BW reused a lot of old mocap animation assets for walk/runs and random NPC's, but the cutscenes are mostly fresh mocap. I remember we were discussing this many pages ago, so thought I'd share. I don't know why I find this so fascinating and I clearly went to school for the wrong thing.


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That really would suck considering he'll break up with you if you tell him to stay on lyrium and getting off it is what he really wants. If anything he might go off the deep end and you have to save him somehow but I don't think they'd kill him.

 

No, he only breaks up with you if you choose the third option "you chose this life." He will not break up with you if you tell him that you'll "find another way." 

 

I have a Templar IQ playthrough that has a lyrium-taking Cullen romance linked in my sig if you'd like to view the vids. 


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