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[Tishina]

Hmm, are the executors being lined up for some future game?

 

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Executors

[riverbanks]

But you said "Irving actively encouraged Uldred to teach and tease students with blood magic to root out potential threats," and it might be splitting hairs to say Irving encouraged Uldred to teach blood magic but not encouraged the study of blood magic. I also don't see what types of magic are studied as having much impact on how people experience a circle.

 

I think it's easy to seize on one or two things said later to completely rewrite what the mages' experiences were like. Unless you just assume Anders was an a**, it's hard to ignore the fact that he was so desperate to escape that he did it that many times, risking tranquility and death. People don't normally do that just for giggles. I played a couple of mage origins, and I found several of the Templars downright creepy or threatening, which was why Cullen's humanity stood out so much for me.

 

lol ok, but I have no idea where this conversation has gone anymore.

 

Spoiler

- my tangent on there being questionable encouraging of problematic lines of magic study at the Kinloch Circle was not in any way related to mages having freedom to to leave that Circle or not; it was just a tangent.

 

- I didn't even attempt to write what mages' experiences were like in that Circle, leave alone rewrite it. Mel said, some circles allowed mages to go outside; I said, yes, some Circles did, here's a few examples. I never got into the mage experience or whatnot.

 

- I also never got into the merit of whether Anders' attempted escapes were justified or not, only mentioned the fact that his escape was the reason certain liberties the mages at Kinloch had were taken away from them - which is something Anders himself says, and Finn later reiterates. There's no judgement of value here, that's just the story of why mages at Kinloch are not allowed to swim around the lake anymore, as told by two mages of that Circle.

 

- nobody ever brought up whether Templars at Kinloch were creepy or threatening?? We weren't even talking about Templars.

 

I mean, these are all valid points of discussion, but unless you're now going on tangents unrelated to the post that originated this too, I don't see how they came about in this conversation; where did you read any of that in my post. I'm just very confused by the direction this has taken and don't know where any of this is going anymore.    (well I can see where this is going, but that is not a discussion I'm interested in, so I'll just bow out of the subject here)

[nyxocity]

and now I'm just as frustrated with this as you all are..... It shouldn't matter what he thinks of the Chantry itself, the fact that he IS religious tells me that- whether Quizzie is Herald or not, should matter to him because it's like putting his faith into question isn't it?

 

The only thing I can possibly think of if that he just chooses to believe whatever you do. But personally I don't think he believes you're Herald.

 

These are exactly the same lines my thoughts are falling along. And that last looks like the view I'll be writing into my story.

 

This is brilliant lol. Do we know anything about Cullen and Dorian's relationship? I haven't finished the game so I'm not sure if there's content I've yet to see. I have a feeling a lot of people would think they wouldn't get along? I think Dorian would poke fun and tease Cullen senselessly, but Cullen's probably used to that from his siblings. I could see them bonding over books or something though.

 

Oh, there's a great scene between them. I don't want to spoil you for it, but it's wonderful and there is indeed something they bond over, and Dorian does tease him, but Cullen seems to give back pretty well. Go talk to Cullen a couple times after you get to Skyhold and visit some of the surrounding areas, and the scene should trigger.

 

Hmm, are the executors being lined up for some future game?

 

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Executors

 

I'd say almost certainly. Especially since they just fixed a bug in the recent patch to make that "those across the sea" mission trigger, which was a mission I don't think anyone even knew existed. Why fix it when there are so many other bugs in things we DO know about unless it's important? I'm guessing we'll maybe encounter them in the DLC?

[riverbanks]

To add to what everyone's said, I think it's obvious Cullen doesn't think much of the Chantry anymore. He might have at some earlier point, but regardless of what he thinks about the organization we can agree he's religious to some degree. If Cullen didn't believe in the Herald and you did, I think there'd be an argument somewhere if you're trying to have a relationship with him.....

 

I wrote a few more sentences and once I reread what I wrote I realized I backtracked and ran over my own argument, and now I'm just as frustrated with this as you all are..... It shouldn't matter what he thinks of the Chantry itself, the fact that he IS religious tells me that- whether Quizzie is Herald or not, should matter to him because it's like putting his faith into question isn't it?

 

The only thing I can possibly think of if that he just chooses to believe whatever you do. But personally I don't think he believes you're Herald.

 

Having played one Inquisitor who did believe she was Andraste's chosen (used all the dialogue options stating she did believe it, expressed disappointment after coming back from the Fade and finding out "Andraste" was just a spirit/memory/whatever Fade!Justinia was), I feel pretty safely that Cullen doesn't believe you're the Herald of Andraste. Whenever you use the faithful dialogue options, he always responds with varying degrees of, "well I don't think you're blessed or anything but if believing that brings you comfort, I can respect it."

 

And I think that's the key point with Cullen - more than bending his beliefs to adapt to yours, Cullen respects your beliefs without compromising his. He can respect a very pro-freedom mage Inquisitor, he can respect a very conservative Templar Inquisitor, he can respect a Inquisitor who doesn't care about either side and prefers to focus on other concerns, he can respect a Inquisitor who laughs at the Chantry and wants to see it burn, he can respect a Inquisitor who believes in the Chantry and fights to see it restored. He won't pretend to believe in something he doesn't to please you (he will challenge you on extremisms for or against either side of the war, for instance), and he won't pretend to not believe in something he does believe in either (he still holds a strong faith in the Maker even if you don't share it), but he will respect that you are who you are. He won't change his strongest beliefs for you, but he'll never demand that you change yours for him either - it's a relationship of mutual respect, above all. 

[skylark]

These are exactly the same lines my thoughts are falling along. And that last looks like the view I'll be writing into my story.

 

 

Oh, there's a great scene between them. I don't want to spoil you for it, but it's wonderful and there is indeed something they bond over, and Dorian does tease him, but Cullen seems to give back pretty well. Go talk to Cullen a couple times after you get to Skyhold and visit some of the surrounding areas, and the scene should trigger.

 

 

I'd say almost certainly. Especially since they just fixed a bug in the recent patch to make that "those across the sea" mission trigger, which was a mission I don't think anyone even knew existed. Why fix it when there are so many other bugs in things we DO know about unless it's important? I'm guessing we'll maybe encounter them in the DLC?

 

Wait a minute.... my next mission is Pride Wrought.... and my mind is hitting a blank... I must really be missing something because I don't remember any Cullen/Dorian scene...

 

Having played one Inquisitor who did believe she was Andraste's chosen (used all the dialogue options stating she did believe it, expressed disappointment after coming back from the Fade and finding out "Andraste" was just a spirit/memory/whatever Fade!Justinia was), I feel pretty safely that Cullen doesn't believe you're the Herald of Andraste. Whenever you use the faithful dialogue options, he always responds with varying degrees of, "well I don't think you're blessed or anything but if believing that brings you comfort, I can respect it."

 

And I think that's the key point with Cullen - more than bending his beliefs to adapt to yours, Cullen respects your beliefs without compromising his. He can respect a very pro-freedom mage Inquisitor, he can respect a very conservative Templar Inquisitor, he can respect a Inquisitor who doesn't care about either side and prefers to focus on other concerns, he can respect a Inquisitor who laughs at the Chantry and wants to see it burn, he can respect a Inquisitor who believes in the Chantry and fights to see it restored. He won't pretend to believe in something he doesn't to please you (he will challenge you on extremisms for or against either side of the war, for instance), and he won't pretend to not believe in something he does believe in either (he still holds a strong faith in the Maker even if you don't share it), but he will respect that you are who you are. He won't change his strongest beliefs for you, but he'll never demand that you change yours for him either - it's a relationship of mutual respect, above all. 

 

I guess he really is a stand-up guy ain't he. I agree 100% with all you're saying, and it's making me think of his withdrawal scene. I understand the creators gave us black and white choices for multiple characters (IB for one, not to mention mage/templar) in that it's part of the gameplay. What must have been going through his mind that he couldn't make the decision on his own? Well... that's a dumb question isn't it. Hmm. I'm finding it hard to think straight tonight but I find that whole scene the more interesting now. I'm starting to think his symptoms/illness what have you, were affecting him a great deal more than he led on. Like his physical symptoms were the least of it. That it was much more than nightmares and headaches.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I have read all the novels multiple times over. What do you wish to know?

 

 

Which part in specific? I've read all the books, I think Elu and Monica and R2 have too, maybe we can help.

 

Hey, sorry for the late response to both of you, but it was about 3AM when I made the request and shortly went to bed afterwards. I'm back now though! 

 

It's mostly to deal with the events of Asunder and the Templars breaking away from the chantry / declaring war on the mages.

 

I'm linking what I've written so far in the spoiler tag below. The conversation that refers to it is one of the later ones, but I would be very glad if you folks would read all of it and give feedback on the whole thing so far.

 

Spoiler

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”I’ve decided to go after all,” The words spoken were seemingly unheeded as his father, the great Bann of Ostwick, continued writing. Maxwell stood silent as he watched him finish signing the letter he had been busy working on. His father finally put the quill back into the ink glass before looking at him.

 

“While I do wonder what made you change your mind, I suppose I should be thankful that you finally decided to do something for once,” His father’s cold stare pierced right through him as he spoke. While he did not say outright, it was clear he knew why he finally decided to go to the conclave despite his initial reluctance. His cousin Marrick, who would be at the conclave as well, had told him that their uncle Erik would be there as part of the Templar order. Erik had always been his favorite uncle and when he heard he would be there, he jumped at the opportunity, and the fact that his motivation was driven by sentimentality and not some sort of ambition had most likely disappointed the old man. His father turned his head down again to fold the letter together and afterwards seal it.

 

“I thought you’d be more pleased,” Maxwell spoke in a slightly hushed tone. While he usually did not crave it, he had hoped for once to hear his father’s approval. The Bann of Ostwick put the letter aside and turned his head up to look at him again.

 

“Pleased? Hmpf!” His father sneered, holding a small pause before continuing, “By what? That my youngest son decided to do something after all the times he did not? That you broke all those years of sloth not because you aspired to something greater, but to visit family. Should I be proud of that? Did you hope for a reward?” The room was dead still after that for a moment; Maxwell drew a deep breath before answering.

 

“I had hoped for some gratitude,” He answered plainly. His father slowly rose from his chair in response.

 

“When I look at you I see only wasted potential,” He started to slowly walk around the desk to face him “If you had joined the templars when you were young as your mother and I wanted, you could have easily become Knight-Commander of any circle you chose and eventually Knight-Vigilant of the entire order. But you refused, and I was foolish enough to allow it thinking that you had greater plans in mind,” Maxwell sighed inside his thoughts, contrary to what his father insisted and despite how much he admired his uncle and the order, he knew he would make a terrible templar himself. His father continued “When you were older, I allowed you to participate in our parties, believing you would be an example of our family to others, perhaps even finding a suitable wife there. Instead, you insulted our name, too busy participating in drunken brawls and chasing elven maids,” Maxwell looked away for a moment before looking back to face him, even though he felt himself shrink in the face of his father’s disapproval.

 

“You have many qualities my son. You have been blessed with both strength and good health, you have a knowledgeable mind and when you decide to, a cunning one as well. And yet, in all these years what have you accomplished, what is your claim to fame? A skilled swordsman, nothing more,” His father had continued his speech, they were face to face now.

 

“So you will excuse me if I don’t wish to congratulate you for wanting to see your uncle again. At least Marrick is there to represent our family,” And with that his father finally ended his talk. The room was quiet for a moment, but Maxwell had no desire to break it and simply nodded before turning around to exit the room. When he was at the door his father left him with these words

 

“I’ll suggest you go and pack your belongings now, you’ll leave early tomorrow,”

 

He did not bother to answer and simply left through the door. He couldn’t wait to get away from here.

 

--

 

The temple of sacred ashes.

 

Ever since the hero of Ferelden had found and shared the discovery of it with the rest of Thedas has the temple been a major pilgrimage site for his family. He still recalled seeing his aunt Helena upon returning from her pilgrimage, describing the majesty and beauty of the site with tears in her eyes. And while he had back then doubted just how impressive it could be, finally seeing it with his own eyes, he felt awe-inspired.

 

“Everything you hoped for, cousin?” Marrick asked when both of them now had a clear view of the temple as they sat on their horses. They had travelled for just over two weeks now along with their retainers, first by boat across the waking sea then by horse once in Ferelden. Their retainers consisted of three scribes, two dozen bodyguards and four of father’s most trusted advisors who had travelled alongside to aide him and Marrick in the talks, though mostly Marrick, he was the one who was supposed to do all the work after all.

 

“Sure, I’m impressed. And double so if this place have decent lodging,” Maxwell joked. For the last twelve days they had travelled through Ferelden to get here, with all the misery that entails, having to endure the foul weather and even fouler food. Marrick let out a small grin at his comment. Even he was looking forward to something else than more run-down Ferelden inns to stay at. 

 

“Hopefully the food they’ll serve here will be better than what we had at the last town. Another bowl of grey rabbit stew and I will be rather bitter,” Marrick turned his head to see what must be four rebel mages march past them. Both men watched the mages beginning the descend from the hill on which they were. Maxwell turned back to his cousin.

 

“The leaders of the chantry, the templars and the mage rebellion alongside the representatives of a dozen noble houses are all here. I am fairly certain someone will have brought a decent cook along,”

 

“And if none of them have? If we all must continue eating grey stew?” Marrick continued asking. He quickly turned to look back at the rest of their retainers who finally caught up with them, they had ridden ahead of the group in order to race each other up to the hill.

 

“Then these talks might just be doomed to fail,” Marrick smiled at Maxwell’s comment. A small pause was held before Maxwell took several deep breaths through the nose, enjoying the crisp autumn air “I can’t believe it,” he murmured .

 

“What is the matter, Maxwell?”

 

“We are Maker knows how far up in the mountains … and Ferelden still smells of wet dog,” There was a second of silence before both men let out a small laughter.

 

“Come now, cousin, the temple of sacred ashes await!” And with that both Marrick and Maxwell began slowly riding down the hill with their retainers following suit. It was good to finally be here and Maxwell could not wait to get inside and enjoy a real hot meal and hopefully some Orleasian wine along with it,”

 

--

 

The warmth of the temple was a refreshing contrast to the cold outside, Maxwell found himself amazed at being inside this ancient place, it’s old walls still seemingly strong. Many of the temple’s rooms and areas had been repurposed to house its many guests to the best of its ability, though it was clear it was never meant to house so many nobles and retainers at once. As a result, the Trevelyans had found themselves relegated to three smaller chambers, one for the three scribes, the second was for the highest ranked and most skilled of their bodyguards with the rest forced to find shelter in Haven or in one of the common rooms set up, and the third was for Maxwell and Marrick.

 

“At least we don’t have to share bed,” Marrick wryly remarked when they were presented with the room, Maxwell couldn’t have agreed more and felt relieved seeing the two beds in each their side of the chamber. The lack of rooms for all had already soured the mood for some expecting far better for such an event.

 

Maxwell had been busy afterwards exploring the temple and see as much of it as he could. He had even tried to see if he could be allowed access to the where the ashes themselves once stood, though he was sadly denied entrance by chantry guards, and while he had been disappointed he did not wish to cause a scene and had let it be.

 

But all that was unimportant right now, he had been waiting near the entrance to where the Templar officials were, waiting for his uncle. He had stood there for several minutes now, only a matter of time now he thought, he had told a low ranking member of the order that the representative of the Trevelyans wished to speak to Ser Erik Trevelyan of the Templars with all haste. 

 

But the wait was finally over. The door leading to their area opened up and Maxwell could finally see his uncle approaching him.

 

His uncle was fifty years old last time Maxwell saw him, Erik  used to have an aura of youth to him despite his age. But that five years ago and the man in front of him looked tired and worn out, his dark blue eyes were sunken in. Despite this, his features brightened up upon seeing his nephew. Maxwell walked towards him now, each step more excited than the last.

 

 “Uncle!” Maxwell cried out, it had been too long since he last saw him. Uncle and nephew quickly embraced each other and let go.

 

“Maxwell… By the Maker, how long has it been? Five years?”

 

“It is,” Maxwell answered, he remembered the last time they saw each other. Sharing drinks in the best tavern in Ostwick, him sharing stories of whatever misbehavior he had been up to since last. His uncle telling tales of the most strangest things that could happen in a circle tower.

 

Yet judging from his looks, his uncle no longer had such humorous tales to tell, perhaps the opposite in fact. He looked so exhausted, so weary, what had happened? He had heard the stories coming from the result of the war between mages and templars. Of the terror and chaos both parties spread in their wake, yet he had a hard time believing it could be as bad as he had heard it. But seeing his uncle, perhaps it was true? “Come, walk with me,” his uncle now gestured him to follow, Maxwell complied.

 

“So how is home?” His uncle asked, Maxwell looked down for a moment before answering.

 

“Fine, father is as he always is,” He gave a weak smile answering. He still remembered their final conversation before he left, he still wished things had gone better.Erik raised an eyebrow.

 

“He didn’t approve of you participating in the conclave?” 

 

“No, he knew I only left because you were here,”

 

Erik shook his head in response.

 

“My dear brother always did loath such sentimentalities,” Maxwell could not have agreed more. He had always heard claims that between his father and his uncle that it was Erik that had inherited most of their sire’s gentler qualities. And while Maxwell had never gotten the chance to know his grandfather, he knew his father and uncle enough not to doubt such sayings. His uncle had always been kind and good to him whenever they saw each other. And while his duty to the order had kept him away from Ostwick, Erik had always seized every opportunity to return to them when he grew up. When he was younger Erik had brought him toys and other small gifts from the circles. When he was older they had sparred and practiced against each other, his uncle becoming more impressed each time they fought as he witnessed his growing skill as a swordsman. The only bad memory he had in regards to Erik was when he told him he had no interest in becoming a templar, he remembered his uncle’s visible disappointment and sorrow hearing the words. His relationship with his uncle was a stark contrast to his father who … well … he had no interest in thinking about his father right now.

 

“But what of you, uncle? How are you exactly?”

 

“What of me?” His uncle let out a heavy sigh, he sounded so exhausted now “I just pray to the Maker that peace will be made in the coming days and this war will end,”

 

“How bad has it been?” His uncle had been mostly out of touch with them ever since the war started, having only send two letters since the rebellion’s start, but now that he was here, he finally had a chance to hear from him in person about the war.

 

“It has been chaos, I’ve have been fortunate to been part of the smaller templar host in the northern Free Marches. The fighting have been far greater here in the south and far more brutal,” A hint of sadness could be heard as he stated the facts. 

 

“Why?”

 

“Because of Lord Seeker Lucius,” Erik sneered “He followed Lambert’s policy of offering no quarters to the mages, now none of the rebels in the south would ever surrender, preferring to become abominations or resorting to blood magic to kill as many templars as possible than be captured and executed,” 

 

“How is the north different?” 

 

“It isn’t, not entirely at any rate, some mages still fight to the death. But the northern templar host have not followed the Lord Seeker’s example of killing all rebels we see. And the Lord Seeker is too occupied by Fiona in the south to pay us heed,”

 

“Last time I’ve heard the Templars were winning the war until Ferelden intervened,” Maxwell had heard that king Alistair had offered the mages free haven in Redcliff about 4 months ago, removing almost any hope for the templars of winning the war through strength of arms without assuring their own destruction

 

“We were, but certainly not because of the tactics the Lord Seeker employed. On the contrary I believe such actions have only made things worse. Even a fool should know that a cornered beast fights twice as hard,” They stopped at a window now, the view outside was beautiful, the distant trees were nothing more than dots painted in the colors of autumn.

 

“But you all agreed to follow the Lord Seeker-” Maxwell pointed out, but he was interrupted midway through.

 

“We all agreed to stop the mage rebellion and bring back the circles, we all agreed to prevent another Tevinter Empire from being born, we did not all agree to slaughter each and every mage!” Anger seared through his uncle’s voice and fury across his face as he spoke and Maxwell was shocked when he he saw his uncle step closer to him, as if he was ready to strike out at him. It was also now that he noticed something else in his eyes, how they were not just sunken in, but also completely red in the outer edges. His uncle backed away, his entire body shaking.

 

“I’m sorry, I do not know what …” He pressed his fingers against his eyelids, struggling to find the words “...what came over me,” he sounded so broken, so ashamed of his behavior. He took a few deep breaths before muttering “Maker help me,” 

 

“Uncle, are you all right?” Maxwell reached his hand out to put it on his shoulder but he shook it off.

 

“I’m fine, just tired. I’m not as young as I once was if you remember,” Erik gave him a weak smile in assurance. Maxwell accepted the answer even if he knew there were more to it, he did not wish to press the issue here.

 

“Come, uncle, let us return back,” Erik nodded in agreement and they started walking again, after a few steps he continued “Me and Marrick would be honored if you and some of the other officers would dine with us later,” Some of the weariness and distress washed off his uncle as he heard the proposal.

 

“I’ll look into it,” his uncle stated.

 

As they continued down the hallway on their way back a new question crossed his mind, they made a turn around a corner and at the end of the long hallway a group of people in blue and grey colors walked in their direction,  He turned to his uncle.

 

“If the Lord Seeker was so staunchly opposed to the mages, it must have been hard to convince him to accept the peace talks,” He knew his uncle would not have been directly there to see it, but perhaps he had heard something from the other Templars. 

 

“Actually no,” 

 

“No?” Maxwell let out in surprise.

 

“As I have said, I have not been part of the southern campaign, yet I have heard comments from the officers here who have been,”

 

“And?” He was curious now to hear what his uncle would say.

 

“They’re confused, the Lord Seeker had been zealous in his policy of not compromising with the mages. Yet he seemed more than eager to send delegates to participate here, almost as if he expected it in advance, he did not even need the slightest convincing. Rather strange for a man of his.. conviction” Erik took a few seconds to find the right word at the end. A group of Grey Wardens passed them,some of them heavily armed soldiers in suits of plate armor and wielding swords, others were mages clad in scale mail and carrying staves. Maxwell and Erik observed the men and women as they passed and they were observed in return, the Wardens watching them with suspicious and distrustful eyes.

 

“Perhaps the Lord Seeker is a more reasonable man than you expected?”

 

“Maybe you’re right, at any rate we’re relieved that he accepted to parley,” and with that they were done with talking about templars and war, turning to lighter matters as they returned to their quarters. 

[nyxocity]

Having played one Inquisitor who did believe she was Andraste's chosen (used all the dialogue options stating she did believe it, expressed disappointment after coming back from the Fade and finding out "Andraste" was just a spirit/memory/whatever Fade!Justinia was), I feel pretty safely that Cullen doesn't believe you're the Herald of Andraste. Whenever you use the faithful dialogue options, he always responds with varying degrees of, "well I don't think you're blessed or anything but if believing that brings you comfort, I can respect it."

 

And I think that's the key point with Cullen - more than bending his beliefs to adapt to yours, Cullen respects your beliefs without compromising his. He can respect a very pro-freedom mage Inquisitor, he can respect a very conservative Templar Inquisitor, he can respect a Inquisitor who doesn't care about either side and prefers to focus on other concerns, he can respect a Inquisitor who laughs at the Chantry and wants to see it burn, he can respect a Inquisitor who believes in the Chantry and fights to see it restored. He won't pretend to believe in something he doesn't to please you (he will challenge you on extremisms for or against either side of the war, for instance), and he won't pretend to not believe in something he does believe in either (he still holds a strong faith in the Maker even if you don't share it), but he will respect that you are who you are. He won't change his strongest beliefs for you, but he'll never demand that you change yours for him either - it's a relationship of mutual respect, above all. 

 

This is exactly how I'm writing him with my elven Inquisitor who believes in her own gods and tries to tell everyone she's absolutely not the Herald. Mutual respect, her respect for his faith and his for hers. They may not believe in the same gods, but it doesn't matter. They even try to learn more about each others beliefs and gods, even tease each other goodnaturedly occasionally about those things, but neither of them changes their beliefs or seeks to change the others. Cullen accepts and respects you, but he doesn't bow to you. He loves you, but he doesn't worship at your feet. I just... some people write him off as boring because he's sweet, I guess? But there's SO much strength and a sense of self, of individuality beneath that sweetness. 

[Potato Cat]

Hmm, are the executors being lined up for some future game?
 
http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Executors

Almost definitely. I remember Gaider hinted about some information about the East in the WoT vol.2. Hopefully, we'll get more teasing in there and see them again in DLC/DA4.

[Inanna Athanasia]

Anyone have somewhere that has a summary of the books? I only read the one with Maric, Rowan and Loghain, but not Asunder or any others. I don't know if I really want to take the time to read them, but would like to know what is in them since there are some references in the game to them.

[Twilight_Princess]

What if Cullen was a party member in a DLC!?!

 

 

Well I whipped this conversation up...enjoy!

 

 

Cole: Two bodies lay pressed upon one another, naked as they day they were born. Strange sounds come from her lips, but they are not of pain they are…

 

Cullen Cole!

 

Dorian: Our young friend certainly knows how to break-up the silence during our trek through Maker knows what.

 

The Inquisitor: I am not listening to this.

 

Dorian: Well I am! Don’t mind these two. Please Cole, you have my full attention, by all means continue.

 

Cullen: Maker’s Breath!

 

Spoiler

 

I need this in my game. More flustered Cullen! MOAR!

 

 

 

Cole: His fingers trace along inky lakes and mountains. Her eyes tell him she wants them to trace her instead...she cant wait and neither can he.

 

Cullen: Cole, remember what we talked abou-

 

Cole: Strong, sturdy, secluded. Rules fade away. Just for her. Only for her.  A toppled marker remains. Their little secret. Have the others noticed it yet?

 

Cullen: 0_0

 

Cass: ...Really knight commander? The War Table?

 

Dorian: HA! And I bet its seen its fair share of conquests too!

 

Cole: Oh yes! Many!

 

Cullen: *groan*

[alwayshungry]

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“I always wanted to be a templar. But when Duncan recruited me, I figured it must have been the Maker’s will.” Warden-Commander Rutherford.

 

An AU where Duncan recruited the wrong templar, who later became the Hero of Ferelden.

 

http://lionsandclove...03/cute-moments

 

http://lionsandclove...llen-rutherford

[Tishina]

lol ok, but I have no idea where this conversation has gone anymore.

 

Spoiler

- my tangent on there being questionable encouraging of problematic lines of magic study at the Kinloch Circle was not in any way related to mages having freedom to to leave that Circle or not; it was just a tangent.

 

- I didn't even attempt to write what mages' experiences were like in that Circle, leave alone rewrite it. Mel said, some circles allowed mages to go outside; I said, yes, some Circles did, here's a few examples. I never got into the mage experience or whatnot.

 

- I also never got into the merit of whether Anders' attempted escapes were justified or not, only mentioned the fact that his escape was the reason certain liberties the mages at Kinloch had were taken away from them - which is something Anders himself says, and Finn later reiterates. There's no judgement of value here, that's just the story of why mages at Kinloch are not allowed to swim around the lake anymore, as told by two mages of that Circle.

 

- nobody ever brought up whether Templars at Kinloch were creepy or threatening?? We weren't even talking about Templars.

 

I mean, these are all valid points of discussion, but unless you're now going on tangents unrelated to the post that originated this too, I don't see how they came about in this conversation; where did you read any of that in my post. I'm just very confused by the direction this has taken and don't know where any of this is going anymore.    (well I can see where this is going, but that is not a discussion I'm interested in, so I'll just bow out of the subject here)

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Just to make sure I wasn't going nuts, I went back to your original post I was responding to. I actually am more confused that you now say you weren't talking about their ability to live outside the circle since clearly a lot of the rest of the post is specifically on that. I just dislike hearing Kinloch described as a relaxed circle from which it was easy to leave based on one or two remarks made in DLC, not the base game, since it confuses people who may not have played the game or a mage origin and leave them wondering why mages behaved the way they did in DA2, etc.

 

But I'm perfectly happy to drop the topic too. I'd much rather hear speculation about the Executors in future games and how funny it was to actually hear Cullen get told "hush, just look pretty." Though with the stupid helmet clipping Solas's nose and cheeks, I'd rather have danced with Cullen last night, sigh. Also, I think Cullen looks really fantastic in the vanilla red uniform, though I've seen a dark blue version that's also flattering on him.

[Caja]

I'm sure that this has been posted before but since it's a really sweet comic strip - who cares .

 

That voice

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by yuhime

[riverbanks]

It's mostly to deal with the events of Asunder and the Templars breaking away from the chantry / declaring war on the mages.

 

I'm linking what I've written so far in the spoiler tag below. (...)

 

I think you're good on background, specially since you're telling it from one man's point of view, which is always slanted by his own understanding of events. The two things that gave me pause were:

 

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- the notion that the rebel Templars were less agressive in the North than in the South. Some of the worst cases of preemptive annulments at the very begginings of the war were in Rivain and Antiva, so there was a lot senseless of bloodshed in the North too - although these things were happening there because neither side understood quite yet what was going on in the South, so both were taking precipitated actions. However, the North was also where a lot of Templars simply refused to join the rebellion declared in the South, and either went into hiding, or seeked sanctuary in the Grey Wardens, so it's pretty plausible that your character has heard of this and come to understand from it that the Northern Templars in general were less inclined to join the war.

 

- that Lucius was eager for the war from the start. We get from his codex entry that Lucius was originally a moderate man, brought in to be the oppposite of Lambert. The more radical Templars were actually against him when he was elected, because he agreed to the Conclave and would probably have worked for peace rather than forcing a push for further war. It's only when Corypheus comes into the picture that Lucius goes nuts and the Templars' perception of him as a leader for the war changes (still, it's the Envy demon that leads the Templars into war at that point, Lucius himself is busy brainwashing the Seekers, but you character has no way of knowing that). Again, though, it's plausible that your character doesn't have the whole 101 on Lucius when he is elected Lord Seeker and knows only what he's heard or seen since then, having seen only the Lucius that favors the war and not the man he used to be before.

 

So I can still buy the scenario your character presents, because it's not coming from the neutral narrator, but the character himself - he may not have all the facts just right, but he's telling what he knows of the war from his point of view, and that's as valid as anyone's account.

 

tl;dr I think you're good, thumbs up.

[riverbanks]

Anyone have somewhere that has a summary of the books? I only read the one with Maric, Rowan and Loghain, but not Asunder or any others. I don't know if I really want to take the time to read them, but would like to know what is in them since there are some references in the game to them.

 

The wikia has summaries of the each novel under their entries: The Calling, Asunder, Masked Empire, Last Flight; and the comics trilogy Silent Grove, Those Who Speak and Until We Sleep. 

 

I'd always recommend actually reading them because there is a lot you miss out with just the encyclopedic overview (you miss the nuances of events being shown from different points of view, you miss the emotional connections you can form with the characters, etc). But of course time, money and even disposition can be factors, so if you're just looking for a quick account of events, the wiki entries should do it.

[Potato Cat]

This is like the fifth time I've gone to Redcliffe before the ally quest, and this is the first time I've actually noticed what they meant when they started banging on about the rifts manipulating time.

[riverbanks]

This is like the fifth time I've gone to Redcliffe before the ally quest, and this is the first time I've actually noticed what they meant when they started banging on about the rifts manipulating time.

 

Took me three or four playthroughs to get it, too. But once I got it, I now totally abuse the rings that increase attack speed with strategically placed rangers, both at the Redcliffe gates and later inside the Chantry with Dorian.

[Potato Cat]

Took me three or four playthroughs to get it, too. But once I got it, I now totally abuse the rings that increase attack speed with strategically placed rangers, both at the Redcliffe gates and later inside the Chantry with Dorian.

Glad I'm not the only one! They could have made it so much clearer, like a little cutscene showing people caught in some weird loop or something.

[Potato Cat]

Oh wow, the Connor cameo is working for the first time ever! Yay!!

[Hellion Rex]

This is like the fifth time I've gone to Redcliffe before the ally quest, and this is the first time I've actually noticed what they meant when they started banging on about the rifts manipulating time.

Yeah, I honestly never noticed the difference my first time through. It would have probably made more sense if they dropped a giant zone where time flowed differently instead of much smaller mini zones.

[duckley]

You have probably seen/heard this - who knows maybe one of you put this together! But just in case ...
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[Caja]

Ha,ha, thanks for sharing. Fontofnothing put the files together and shared them with us, so yes, they came from someone in this thread. Funny, how popular they became and how we came full circle now .

[Cantina]

You have probably seen/heard this - who knows maybe one of you put this together! But just in case ...
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love it!


http://femgamers.tum...urnei-geeky-jez

 

Here is my thought:

 

It could have been nice if one of two things happened:

 

 

Ask Cullen if he wants to spend sometime alone---> Cullen and your Inquisitor take a small walk on the Battlements outside his office. Cullen says these dialogue bits with filler from The Inquisitor. If in a romance Cullen gives your character a smooch and heads back to his office.

 

OR

 

Ask Cullen if he wishes to get some "sleep"----> Upon waking up the following day, Cullen and your Inquisitor share the above banter in bed. Followed by Cullen and The Inquisitor giving each other a kiss. And your Inquisitor rolls out of bed to start the day. If not in a romance with Cullen, you'll have a walk on the battlements with him instead. 

 

 

Well that is what my mind drummed up.

[timebean]

OK Cullen thread, got a fun question for ya!

 

I have always loved Fereleden...whenever I get poetic or I want to write in the Dragon age universe, I feel like a Ferelden.  I put on my tunic and lambswool, reach down and pet my trusted mabari, and dust the dried mud from my leather boots.  I look out my window and see a grey sky hinting at rain and I smile. I have to get to the tavern soon, and I plan to drink until I am singing. I am Ferelden to the bone (but my momma was Rivani...so I,of course, have a hidden  necklace under my tunic that was blessed by a seer).

 

But I wonder. what about the rest of you?  Are there some Free Marchers out there, who love freedom and independence above all?  Or some Orlesians, who love the game and all its subtleties?  Or perhaps a few Rivanis or Antivans?  Any Qunari?

 

So my question is, which place calls to you?  Where would you live? Which flags decorated your hall?  Where are you and Cully going on vacation? 

 

 

Also...do you guys think this would be a fun question for the BSN page?  It makes me nervous to post anything...out there...

 

EDIT - OK..I did it...I hope people are nice!

[R2s Muse]

You have probably seen/heard this - who knows maybe one of you put this together! But just in case ...
(click on the picture)


love it!


http://femgamers.tum...urnei-geeky-jez

Ha,ha, thanks for sharing. Fontofnothing put the files together and shared them with us, so yes, they came from someone in this thread. Funny, how popular they became and how we came full circle now .

...to be more specific, the files were discovered and ripped from the game by fontofnothing. This person on tumblr took them and combined them.