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Wait no come back where are you going

 

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 I hope this guy



Doesn't decide Monday is a "tiki bar kinda night" lol. 

 

well not unless he's buying!


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well not unless he's buying!

 

 

Nvm then! 



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I wanted to get that mod but  im missing some brain cells atm cause compared to DA games its kind of a pain to put mods into ME

 

 

I feel your pain. There was a armor mod I wanted to use for DAO but could never get to work. I finally gave up on it. :(

 

But regarding MEHEM another modder by the name of Wavion created an installer for it and made it part of the mod's download so you won't have to fuss with replacing files. Give it a shot!!



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Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal


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I feel your pain. There was a armor mod I wanted to use for DAO but could never get to work. I finally gave up on it. :(

 

But regarding MEHEM another modder by the name of Wavion created an installer for it and made it part of the mod's download so you won't have to fuss with replacing files. Give it a shot!!

LIKE and ty :)


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Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal

 

I wonder if he's tired of following orders and decides to be the one giving them instead? As an advisor, he shouldn't have to follow blindly.


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"snip"

 

 

Hahaha, in all seriousness though, i'm looking forward to seeing what you've planned :P


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Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal

 

That is a really good question. I don't know, but I hope it's not just swept under the rug. Same with Leliana, to be honest. From a gameplay perspective, it makes sense for her not to be a companion, but story-wise, she's a great fighter in her own right. I'd like to know why these two can't come along with me sometimes.

 

Hmm. Leliana could be explained as she needs to be places for her secret spy network to function. Cullen could simply be needed to train our army. I don't know. And now I desperately want to.


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Cullen being around to train our military seems weird to me too. Not to say he's not talented cause I'm sure after being a templar for 10+ years he's got some moves, but I feel like someone else could easily do it?

 

I don't know anymore, I'm rambling.  :lol:



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Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal

 

I think what he witnessed at Kirkwall has a lot to do with it. Between the influence of blood mages infiltrating the Templar ranks (The "Enemies Among Us" quest line) and watching his superior lose her mind due to red lyrium ("The Last Straw"), his belief system has taken some major hits. If helping him end his addiction to lyrium is not part of DAI's storyline, I'd like to think he got off the stuff himself, re-assessed his life and determined that his time as Knight-Captain gave him some knowledge into military strategies.  Of course, I'm just speculating here. Hopefully we'll get some clues about how/why the advisers ended up as such before October.


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That is a really good question. I don't know, but I hope it's not just swept under the rug. Same with Leliana, to be honest. From a gameplay perspective, it makes sense for her not to be a companion, but story-wise, she's a great fighter in her own right. I'd like to know why these two can't come along with me sometimes.

 

Hmm. Leliana could be explained as she needs to be places for her secret spy network to function. Cullen could simply be needed to train our army. I don't know. And now I desperately want to.

I'm sure we'll see both of them use their combat skills several times before the credits ;)



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Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal

 

A theory? Hmmm... I think to theorize on that, I'd have to try and guess what the devs were thinking because I can't come up with a reason, really. Not storywise. Perhaps he has a number of loyal knights, who stayed with the Chantry, to command? So he can help make administrative decisions but his responsibilities keep him from being able to go out in the field. He could administrate from a templar Keep or from the Inquisition's keep but he can't be lost out in the brush for weeks or months on end. That would be what I would suppose.


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Oh, it would be great if Cullen was as important to the story as Joker was to Mass Effect! Joker is my favorite BioWare character, although I never wanted to romance him. He was one of the closest people to my Shepard, but it was only friendship. It would have been nice if he would have been an option for all the people who wished it though.

 

I hope Dragon Age Inquisition will have the option for a happy ending with Cullen. Well, I understand that sacrifices are necessary, but I'd like an ending where both the player character and the LI can survive. I think Cullen has suffered enough, but I guess we all know that he is probably going to suffer even more ... I just want him to be able to smile as well.


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Cullen being around to train our military seems weird to me too. Not to say he's not talented cause I'm sure after being a templar for 10+ years he's got some moves, but I feel like someone else could easily do it?

 

I don't know anymore, I'm rambling.  :lol:

 

Exactly. I'm not knocking out dear Knight-Captain's abilities, it's just, if I wanted to take Cullen out with me, he's a warrior of some skill. Why can't I do it?

 

Lyrium addiction seems a likely cause. With the Chantry in ruins, the dwarves might be wary about trading with them. With no lyrium trade, well.... Perhaps symptoms of withdrawal start off as physical and progress towards mental instability overtime? It could be why he isn't pictured with a weapon. He might be able to train soldiers, and, at least for the time-being, he can offer tactics.

 

Mweeeh:( Now I has a sad.

 

I'm sure it'll be a happier explanation in-game. Yeah.


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Exactly. I'm not knocking out dear Knight-Captain's abilities, it's just, if I wanted to take Cullen out with me, he's a warrior of some skill. Why can't I do it?

 

Lyrium addiction seems a likely cause. With the Chantry in ruins, the dwarves might be wary about trading with them. With no lyrium trade, well.... Perhaps symptoms of withdrawal start off as physical and progress towards mental instability overtime? It could be why he isn't pictured with a weapon. He might be able to train soldiers, and, at least for the time-being, he can offer tactics.

 

Mweeeh:( Now I has a sad.

 

I'm sure it'll be a happier explanation in-game. Yeah.

 

 

 

Cullen is an expert in demon-killing. This is probably why he is an adviser. 


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And he WAS the knight-captain of the templars in Kirkwall, so he does have some experience leading military.



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Cullen is an expert in demon-killing. This is probably why he is an adviser. 

 

Oh, yes, I am sure of that! He's probably more an expert on it than he ever wanted to be. I'm just wondering why I can't take his happy-demon-killing-ass with me when I go out and about. Like, take Sera. She's supposed to be the head of this thieves guild, ya? Well, she doesn't have to sit around the Skyhold. Or, the Iron Bull. Head of a bunch of mercs, but he can come play, too. What makes Cullen (and Leliana) so different?

 

Leliana is a bit easier. Her job requires her to be in multiple places, talking to multiple people. Cullen... maybe. I mean, he's organizing our entire force, so I guess he could be kept busy like that.

 

I'm not saying he shouldn't be an advisor--I am in camp YAY NON-COMPANION CULLEN after all--I'm just wondering what's keeping him from coming with the Inquisitor, like the others. That's all. I'm not worried about it, beyond what it could mean for Cullen's health. I have faith all will be explained.


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About GamerMD:

 

I don't know her, but with what she is going through right now ANYONE who said such things deserves a punch to the face.

 

Exactly. I'm not knocking out dear Knight-Captain's abilities, it's just, if I wanted to take Cullen out with me, he's a warrior of some skill. Why can't I do it?

 

Lyrium addiction seems a likely cause. With the Chantry in ruins, the dwarves might be wary about trading with them. With no lyrium trade, well.... Perhaps symptoms of withdrawal start off as physical and progress towards mental instability overtime? It could be why he isn't pictured with a weapon. He might be able to train soldiers, and, at least for the time-being, he can offer tactics.

 

Mweeeh:( Now I has a sad.

 

I'm sure it'll be a happier explanation in-game. Yeah.

 

I'm hoping we'll be able to take him with us for some things - the same with the other advisers. If the matter is serious enough, we can take them. Or perhaps they will be there when we hold court, like in Awakening - offer advice, the works.



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I guess, I sort of see Cullen falling into the 'advisor' position so easily, because I'm cautious about considering Circle-Templars as being capable 'front line soldiers' without some sort of extra training to get them back to that sort of rigor.

 

This is sort of how I think of it and I'm sorry it's largely in a way that relates more to me than others.

 

I have two jobs as a nurse.

 

One, I work in a clinic setting at a local distribution center. I wear business casual to work and do a lot of workman's comp stuff. Part of my job is also dealing with injuries when they arise. There is a potential that I'll have to deal with a catastrophic injury.

 

I sort of equate this to being a Circle-Templar

 

I'm also a nurse at one of the two large hospitals in my area. We deal with a lot of 'catastrophic' events on that floor.

 

I equate this with being a 'front line solider'.

 

Now, both of my positions mark me as a nurse...but that doesn't mean that if I'd only been working the clinic for some years that I'd be able to just start working at the hospital again in the trauma unit without some serious skills training.

 

Does any of this make sense? I worked 16.5 hrs today because we were short staffed and I don't know if my brain is all there.

 

I don't mean to lessen Circle-Templars, just like I don't consider my clinic job 'lesser' than my hospital job. It's just different. I guess I'm just wondering if Cullen would be ready for the 'front lines' kinda' deal right away. 


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I guess, I sort of see Cullen falling into the 'advisor' position so easily, because I'm cautious about considering Circle-Templars as being capable 'front line soldiers' without some sort of extra training to get them back to that sort of rigor.

 

This is sort of how I think of it and I'm sorry it's largely in a way that relates more to me than others.

 

I have two jobs as a nurse.

 

One, I work in a clinic setting at a local distribution center. I wear business casual to work and do a lot of workman's comp stuff. Part of my job is also dealing with injuries when they arise. There is a potential that I'll have to deal with a catastrophic injury.

 

I sort of equate this to being a Circle-Templar

 

I'm also a nurse at one of the two large hospitals in my area. We deal with a lot of 'catastrophic' events on that floor.

 

I equate this with being a 'front line solider'.

 

Now, both of my positions mark me as a nurse...but that doesn't mean that if I'd only been working the clinic for some years that I'd be able to just start working at the hospital again in the trauma unit without some serious skills training.

 

Does any of this make sense? I worked 16.5 hrs today because we were short staffed and I don't know if my brain is all there.

 

I don't mean to lessen Circle-Templars, just like I don't consider my clinic job 'lesser' than my hospital job. It's just different. I guess I'm just wondering if Cullen would be ready for the 'front lines' kinda' deal right away. 

 

The thing is, the Templar Order is an army. An actual army. They fight in Exalted Marches, so they'd have to have at least basic army training, else they'd be utterly useless. And I'd assume that, with the Tevinter Imperium still around, the Divine keeps her forces well-trained for the inevitable war to come. Sure, their basic duties are mage-related, but they also fight against mundanes, and are the Chantry's main defense. So I could see Cullen being very capable of training and leading the Inquisition's forces.  :D



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The thing is, the Templar Order is an army. An actual army. They fight in Exalted Marches, so they'd have to have at least basic army training, else they'd be utterly useless. And I'd assume that, with the Tevinter Imperium still around, the Divine keeps her forces well-trained for the inevitable war to come. Sure, their basic duties are mage-related, but they also fight against mundanes, and are the Chantry's main defense. So I could see Cullen being very capable of training and leading the Inquisition's forces.  :D

I know, I wasn't trying to say they don't have military training. I'm more wondering about the different roles the Templars are playing. In-game, we see a lot of Circle-Templars doing what I would call "keeping order" and being available for "disaster situations".

 

I think that's different from, say, the Templars in the Devine's forces. I would imagine their training and duties would be more 'militaristic'?

 

And I think we're sort of on the same page with your last sentence there. I can see Cullen being an awesome leader/trainer of forces- he has the training and as you've said, Templars are supposed to be quite the force to reckon with.

 

I'm more thinking that he fits that sort of role better than being right in the thick of things with the Inquisitor.



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Does this mean we'll have a sidequest to hook Cullen up with Scribbles? 

 

That is just evil of you.

 

And sadly, my Inquisitor would probably do it if Cullen asked her to. :(  

 



Now that "Advisor Cullen" is pretty much confirmed, I would like to know the backstory to why he isn't a companion. I mean even if he doesn't take any more Lyrium and is losing his Templar abilities, he is still a capable Warrior. Does he decide "I'm done following, that just get's me in trouble." or is he suffering from mental/physical problems due to Lyrium withdrawal .... but then how good of an Advisor would he really make, if he was suffering hallucination/anxiety/whatever else due to withdrawal

 

I guess I would tend to see an advisor as a higher position than follower, so rather than why Cullen couldn't be in your party, it would be based on why Cullen was more qualified to lead your military forces than another contender would have been. I think he has some pretty solid credentials for that.

 

Once he's in a leadership position, I assume he's simply too busy with his own responsibilities to go gallivanting at his lover's whim.  ;) To be honest, I think that dynamic would work better for a romance with Cullen (specifically) than having him always at your beck and call.

 



I hope Dragon Age Inquisition will have the option for a happy ending with Cullen. Well, I understand that sacrifices are necessary, but I'd like an ending where both the player character and the LI can survive. I think Cullen has suffered enough, but I guess we all know that he is probably going to suffer even more ... I just want him to be able to smile as well.

 

I hope so too. I'm sure he'll suffer some hardship (along with all the other characters) but I really hope he gets a good ending. He deserves it, after all that time and all he's been through.

 



Does any of this make sense? I worked 16.5 hrs today because we were short staffed and I don't know if my brain is all there.

 

Yes, I thought it was a good point. I would personally tend to think more along the same lines as Phate, but I still think you present an interesting perspective that may very well be correct.  :)



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I know, I wasn't trying to say they don't have military training. I'm more wondering about the different roles the Templars are playing. In-game, we see a lot of Circle-Templars doing what I would call "keeping order" and being available for "disaster situations".

 

I think that's different from, say, the Templars in the Devine's forces. I would imagine their training and duties would be more 'militaristic'?

 

And I think we're sort of on the same page with your last sentence there. I can see Cullen being an awesome leader/trainer of forces- he has the training and as you've said, Templars are supposed to be quite the force to reckon with.

 

I'm more thinking that he fits that sort of role better than being right in the thick of things with the Inquisitor.

 

Oh, I see what you're saying! Perhaps! I mean, we've seen him fight before, so he's not exactly a slouch at it, but, yeah, maybe that's why he stays behind. He's just better at leading troops than being led. Which could lead to some interesting butting-of-heads if he and the Inquisitor don't see eye-to-eye on something. Hmm...

 

This idea is much better than him slowly losing his mind due to Lyrium withdrawal!


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This idea is much better than him slowly losing his mind due to Lyrium withdrawal!

 

It might be my mind latching on to this idea because I deal with too much real-world drug withdrawal at the hospital and all the frustrations and heartbreak (for the user and those that care about them) that goes along with it. :/


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