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[Cerulione]

I'm wondering if maybe I'm just over-thinking this. What I'm getting is that it seems to be situational? Not in the sense that it differs amongst writers (clearly it does), but if a writer is using in-game material it's usually moments and snippets? Stick with me while I try and wrap my head around this... Say an Inquisitor has her own little character arc/scene set between 'Here Lies the Abyss' and 'What Pride Had Wrought.' Would you novelize Abyss? Or all or none of it? I mean readers wouldn't really know the IQ if you just started there right? And then what about what happens next, do you novelize the rest of the game lol? Definitely think I'm over analyzing this now. What gets me is that a friend of mine apparently read Cullen fic a few months ago while knowing nothing about Dragon Age having not played the games. And I'm sitting here like, how? How did you understand anything?

 

Idk, I'm pretty new-ish to the fanfiction scene. The only thing I ever started writing (for something completely different,) was a self-contained story. So I'm just really interested in how people approach writing for something as massive as DA.

 

From what I think personally, it depends on whether you plan to do just a one shot kind of thing or a massive multiple chapter fic?

 

I only wrote one shots, personally I find it uninteresting to retell the same story exactly like how it happened in-game. Everyone who read the fic had basically play the game. There's no novelty so it's not interesting for me to either read or write anything that's just putting to word exactly the same story from the scenes told in third person Point of View. It has to be something different. Or told from a very unusual point of view, giving a narrative & very subjective first person point-of view (I remember reading an excellent fic of IB's personal quest told by Krem's point of view. Very very interesting & well written). What is interesting here is for example how he feels about the whole situation, his feeling & thoughts & reaction but not on what happened itself.

 

About someone who had not played the game & able to read & understand fic, I guess that it really depends on the fic itself, and whether your friend do have some notions about DA lores or not. Personally I had written one fic specifically for readers who had never play the game. If you had played it, you understand simply who the character is from the game.I showed it to my friends who did not play DA games & they all can understand & enjoy the story.

[Hellion Rex]

DAT SMOLDER.

http://youramatus.tu...-a-good-morning

[R2s Muse]

I'm wondering if maybe I'm just over-thinking this. What I'm getting is that it seems to be situational? Not in the sense that it differs amongst writers (clearly it does), but if a writer is using in-game material it's usually moments and snippets? Stick with me while I try and wrap my head around this... Say an Inquisitor has her own little character arc/scene set between 'Here Lies the Abyss' and 'What Pride Had Wrought.' Would you novelize Abyss? Or all or none of it? I mean readers wouldn't really know the IQ if you just started there right? And then what about what happens next, do you novelize the rest of the game lol? Definitely think I'm over analyzing this now. What gets me is that a friend of mine apparently read Cullen fic a few months ago while knowing nothing about Dragon Age having not played the games. And I'm sitting here like, how? How did you understand anything?

 

Idk, I'm pretty new-ish to the fanfiction scene. The only thing I ever started writing (for something completely different,) was a self-contained story. So I'm just really interested in how people approach writing for something as massive as DA.

Um, I'm going with hella situational. Every story will depend on the arc the writer wants to tell, which will determine where it begins and ends, and how much to put in the middle. There are ways you can set the scene without having to tell the entire story up until then in detail, following ye olde mantra of starting as close to the ending as you can. Like with any story, you build context and background as you go. If you want to write it for someone who hasn't played the game, then you just need a bit more description of some of the DA-dependent stuff.  

 

My first, novel-length DA story I wrote with an eye toward someone not necessarily knowing Dragon Age intimately, and set it after an entire game's worth of  cataclysmic events. So I made a point of explaining who the characters were as I introduced them and such, as one would in a regular story. My best friend, who's never played the game, loved it (and ships Hawke and Cullen now, too ). So, I think it just depends on the story and how it's written. 

[Tishina]

Um, I'm going with hella situational. Every story will depend on the arc the writer wants to tell, which will determine where it begins and ends, and how much to put in the middle. There are ways you can set the scene without having to tell the entire story up until then in detail, following ye olde mantra of starting as close to the ending as you can. Like with any story, you build context and background as you go. If you want to write it for someone who hasn't played the game, then you just need a bit more description of some of the DA-dependent stuff.  

 

My first, novel-length DA story I wrote with an eye toward someone not necessarily knowing Dragon Age intimately, and set it after an entire game's worth of  cataclysmic events. So I made a point of explaining who the characters were as I introduced them and such, as one would in a regular story. My best friend, who's never played the game, loved it (and ships Hawke and Cullen now, too ). So, I think it just depends on the story and how it's written. 

Well said. What I write is meant for people familiar with the game; I don't want to have to take the time to introduce the characters and story in detail. I do include snippets of dialogue from the game sometimes to create a bridge from the end of something in game to the conversation in my story that places it timewise for people. But lots of other people write in large portions of the game so someone who hasn't played it can make sense of it. I think the trick is to write in enough to give the non-player a feel for the story and characters without re-writing so much of the game that you lose the interest of people who played it.

 

As much as I enjoyed Knight's Bloom, I still ship Cullen with one of my Suranas,

[skylark]

Thanks for all the input. Maybe these questions were my subconscious' way of telling me I'm gonna be writing DA fic down the road lol. Guess I'll just have to wait until I finish the game so I can start reading some for myself. :\

[Cantina]

 

LOL!

 

Oh man.... my side hurts from laughing.

 

You have to use your deepest perverted nature.

 

Think of Cullen nude.

 

Now add in a nude laying Inquisitor on the table...

 

I'll just leave it there for the rest of your imagination to go wild.

 

LOL!

[MelissaGT]

Finally got Cullen into some good lighting! Bring on the pics!

 

 

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[Cantina]

Mel...

 

What are you N. settings please?

[alwayshungry]

http://the-zombie-ca...is-3-once-again

 

http://artsyneurotic...g-my-lunchbreak

 

http://oh-makers-bre...r-my-girlfriend

 

http://blacklamour.t...r-i-had-to-make

 

http://deliriumexmac...ss-s-fic-how-it

 

http://starfleetspec...ook-i-like-this

 

http://dimtramp.tumb...here-u-go-kiddo

 

http://barkghest.tum...st/114079005326

 

http://alistairsshin...lens-face-quite

 

NSFW: http://lionsandclove...es-and-caresses

[MelissaGT]

Mel...

 

What are you N. settings please?

 

What do you mean by "N" settings? 

[R2s Muse]

As much as I enjoyed Knight's Bloom, I still ship Cullen with one of my Suranas,

LMAO!! You're forgiven. :kiss:

[R2s Muse]

Thanks for all the input. Maybe these questions were my subconscious' way of telling me I'm gonna be writing DA fic down the road lol. Guess I'll just have to wait until I finish the game so I can start reading some for myself. :\

. Doooo iiittt

[sagefic]

Thanks for all the input. Maybe these questions were my subconscious' way of telling me I'm gonna be writing DA fic down the road lol. Guess I'll just have to wait until I finish the game so I can start reading some for myself. :\

 

Dooo eeet!!

 

<< I think the thing I find 2nd most awesome about fanfic (other than, you know, the actual fiction itself), is how it  encourages people to try their hand at writing. The world is a better place for having more stories in it. And if they're stories about Cullen..... (blush, rawr, ... ahem)

 

As for introducing game elements to people who don't know it: like @R2smuse and others said, I find it's useful if a writer assumes the person has played the game, but maybe not in the last year or so. I think it's useful to aim for some explication, - since people do read fanfic of games they haven't played and books they haven't read (? blows my mind, since I'd never give up the chance to play a good game) but not massive codex amounts - just enough reminder to refresh memory? I guess that's my thought anyhow.

 

 

.... also, all this great Cullen art is amazing. He's so pretty. He clearly inspires people with his lovely hair.

[QweenBeen]

Hey guys, for those of you who patched to 5 and still wanted mods and CE to work (if it worked for you in the first place!) Do you know if it's still necessary to do those crazy workarounds or have modders updated their mods to 5 already? I haven't heard about 6 yet, but I'd be super frustrated if it came out a week after I just did ninja moves to make 5 work

[MelissaGT]

Hey guys, for those of you who patched to 5 and still wanted mods and CE to work (if it worked for you in the first place!) Do you know if it's still necessary to do those crazy workarounds or have modders updated their mods to 5 already? I haven't heard about 6 yet, but I'd be super frustrated if it came out a week after I just did ninja moves to make 5 work

 

There's only a couple extra steps to get your mods working with patch 5. I didn't download any updated versions of my mods, just the updated mod manager and all is working just fine. I don't use any "game-changing" mods though, just texture replacements. I also don't use CE so I can't report on that. I stopped using that two patches ago because it started crashing my game randomly. 

[Tishina]

LMAO!! You're forgiven. :kiss:

If I hadn't already written my male Dalish warden into Zima's story for reasons, I'd be tempted to end it with that Surana reappearing. Just reappearing, I don't know if I want to get into the question of whether she found a cure or not. Hmm, the other story I was thinking about needs a Brosca warden. Oh well, Cullen and Pozhar Surana may never get their reunion, lol.

[R2s Muse]

If I hadn't already written my male Dalish warden into Zima's story for reasons, I'd be tempted to end it with that Surana reappearing. Just reappearing, I don't know if I want to get into the question of whether she found a cure or not. Hmm, the other story I was thinking about needs a Brosca warden. Oh well, Cullen and Pozhar Surana may never get their reunion, lol.

I'm branching out a bit in Fool's Errand and including an Amell ref for the very first time... (none of the Circle Wardens exist in my fanfic worlds usually), so I've been thinking about the same. When I started the story (*cough* three years ago*cough*), I had planned on making up/hand waving what she'd been working on that made Leliana say at the end of DA2 "that's no coincidence" about the joint disappearance of the Warden and the Champion. Now that the coincidence sounds like *cough*bullsh!t... hmmm, I have to decide how "canon" I want to be on that. 

[Marika Haliwell]

Hello girls For now I am sobbing at Alistair's Knees ( still playing DAO for the first time ) but Cullen won my heart since i was an apprentice in the Circle long time ago After screwing DAO end because i didn't wanted spoilers , now i remedy that because i don't want to go in DAI crying over my choices .

 

LMAO Cullen the shy templar who ran away at my approach in the Circle changed into the man who throws you on the desk and shows you what a man can do .... certainly the Kirkwall vacation served him well :XD 

 

Blah, but the love scene is poor !! i mean really?? Even Alistair showed more stuff to my mage in the vanilla DAO . Modders go to work because when i will start playing DAI i want something more than a desk

 

And the first kiss scene ?? Epic! Cullen's face at the poor messenger ( " if you don't want to die better ran, NOW!")

[Tishina]

I'm branching out a bit in Fool's Errand and including an Amell ref for the very first time... (none of the Circle Wardens exist in my fanfic worlds usually), so I've been thinking about the same. When I started the story (*cough* three years ago*cough*), I had planned on making up/hand waving what she'd been working on that made Leliana say at the end of DA2 "that's no coincidence" about the join disappearance of the Warden and the Champion. Now that the coincidence sounds like *cough*bullsh!t... hmmm, I have to decide how "canon" I want to be on that. 

I'd go for including an Amell reference, that could be fun. I just write off the DA2 reference as proof that Lel isn't infallible, just very good at being skeptical. Of course, it's also possible Flemeth was subtly manipulating both the Warden (through an unconscious Morrigan) and Hawke. I'd only write Surana into a world where Cullen isn't romanced by the IQ, but that's because I don't personally like writing love triangles. Nor would I have them falling into each others' arms instantly if I ever wrote it; it would be more them discovering how they feel now that there are no walls standing between them - honestly it could be fun to write either way. One way, there's finally resolution for both of them and they can both completely put it behind them; the other way they discover that those tentative feelings over 10 years ago really did have potential (I personally like mage-templar pairings because I think templars were originally meant to be more partners than jailers.)

[timebean]

Never played kotor....highly recommended I take it? is it like me or da in it's character interactions? Characters make or break a game for me, I tend to adapt to fighting mechanics and technical stuff easily but it's gotta be a good story first and foremost. ..



http://commander-warden.tumblr.com

Sorry for late response...in crazy work mode!!!

Story is pretty darned good and worth the clunky gameplay and icky graphics.  I do recommend!!  VERY memorable characters.  First one has great companions and a save the world story, second has a few amazing characters and some duds with a darker, more personal story. You should check it out!

 

In regards to skylark's story question, this is something I struggle like mad with!!!  I have attempted to write a DAO fic that a non-player could understand, using dialouge to mostly fill in the gaps (ie, what iis the Chantry?  Who is Logahin?).  Honestly...it has been tedious as hell!!!  The next time I ever do a fan fic, it will be under the assumption that anyone reading it knows all the lore and I can just enjoy the characters and interactions that i want to have in there!!  There is WAYYY to much lore in this game to try to cover in a "book". Just my 2 cents!!!

 

Also, does anyoen have any updates on hair mods for the game?  I am almost through KOTOR and I miss CULLEN!!!!  But...I have vowed not to play till I can get some perty hair for my gal!!!

[QweenBeen]

There's only a couple extra steps to get your mods working with patch 5. I didn't download any updated versions of my mods, just the updated mod manager and all is working just fine. I don't use any "game-changing" mods though, just texture replacements. I also don't use CE so I can't report on that. I stopped using that two patches ago because it started crashing my game randomly.

Cool thanks. Yeah I don't do the game changing mods either, unless I can carry more inventory! Otherwise wearing rogue outfits as a warrior is a must, and CE had a banter mod that just made the game nice and cozy for me in my 3rd pt that I can't do without now

[timebean]

Hello girls For now I am sobbing at Alistair's Knees ( still playing DAO for the first time ) but Cullen won my heart since i was an apprentice in the Circle long time ago After screwing DAO end because i didn't wanted spoilers , now i remedy that because i don't want to go in DAI crying over my choices .

 

LMAO Cullen the shy templar who ran away at my approach in the Circle changed into the man who throws you on the desk and shows you what a man can do .... certainly the Kirkwall vacation served him well :XD 

 

Blah, but the love scene is poor !! i mean really?? Even Alistair showed more stuff to my mage in the vanilla DAO . Modders go to work because when i will start playing DAI i want something more than a desk

 

And the first kiss scene ?? Epic! Cullen's face at the poor messenger ( " if you don't want to die better ran, NOW!"

HA!  Yup...remember the first DAO play-through where Alistair stole my heart then crushed it!!!   ~20 playhtroughs later, I finally made myself queen...but that damned scene where he says "Is this really what you want me to do, are you sure?"...sacrificed myself every freaking time!  Now THAT is good writing/acting!!

 

Hope Cullen heals the wound!!  He is wonderful in DAI!!!!  Have fun!  And welco9me to the thread!

[QweenBeen]

Hello girls For now I am sobbing at Alistair's Knees ( still playing DAO for the first time ) but Cullen won my heart since i was an apprentice in the Circle long time ago After screwing DAO end because i didn't wanted spoilers , now i remedy that because i don't want to go in DAI crying over my choices .

LMAO Cullen the shy templar who ran away at my approach in the Circle changed into the man who throws you on the desk and shows you what a man can do .... certainly the Kirkwall vacation served him well :XD

Blah, but the love scene is poor !! i mean really?? Even Alistair showed more stuff to my mage in the vanilla DAO . Modders go to work because when i will start playing DAI i want something more than a desk

And the first kiss scene ?? Epic! Cullen's face at the poor messenger ( " if you don't want to die better ran, NOW!")

Welcome to DAO have you played DA2 yet? I am so jealous that you're playing DAO for the first time! I wish I wish I wish I could forget it completely so I can fall in love with it like it's brand new again! Alistair's romance is just so mushy sweet...

My Cullen infatuation is relatively new (like a year?) But I played DAO and DA2 recently and am enraptured by him! Makes me wonder how I overlooked him the first times I played I blame alistair's face and fenris' voice but he does have a wonderful first kiss, best yet!! 10 years, the man knows what he wants

[Narcia_]

I'd go for including an Amell reference, that could be fun. I just write off the DA2 reference as proof that Lel isn't infallible, just very good at being skeptical. Of course, it's also possible Flemeth was subtly manipulating both the Warden (through an unconscious Morrigan) and Hawke. I'd only write Surana into a world where Cullen isn't romanced by the IQ, but that's because I don't personally like writing love triangles. Nor would I have them falling into each others' arms instantly if I ever wrote it; it would be more them discovering how they feel now that there are no walls standing between them - honestly it could be fun to write either way. One way, there's finally resolution for both of them and they can both completely put it behind them; the other way they discover that those tentative feelings over 10 years ago really did have potential (I personally like mage-templar pairings because I think templars were originally meant to be more partners than jailers.)

 

Always looking forward to more writings from R2

 

I like the way you present the mage templar dynamic, too. That's interesting. I really wish I'd felt more connected to the templar storyline in this game. I'll play through it again and I liked Barris a lot, but something felt lacking for me ... 

 

With the way they decided to handle Alistair and basically making the king storyline cannon, I've really warmed to the the idea of how sweet it would be if my Cullen and Surana met again later on and a romance actually developed between them. I mean, I like my Inquisitor, but I love my warden and Cullen deserves the best

[R2s Muse]

I'd go for including an Amell reference, that could be fun. I just write off the DA2 reference as proof that Lel isn't infallible, just very good at being skeptical. Of course, it's also possible Flemeth was subtly manipulating both the Warden (through an unconscious Morrigan) and Hawke. I'd only write Surana into a world where Cullen isn't romanced by the IQ, but that's because I don't personally like writing love triangles. Nor would I have them falling into each others' arms instantly if I ever wrote it; it would be more them discovering how they feel now that there are no walls standing between them - honestly it could be fun to write either way. One way, there's finally resolution for both of them and they can both completely put it behind them; the other way they discover that those tentative feelings over 10 years ago really did have potential (I personally like mage-templar pairings because I think templars were originally meant to be more partners than jailers.)

Yeah, I have no interest in a triangle with the Warden either. For me, done  is done. But I'm interested in her existence as a former crush for the first time to provide flavor for his background. Someone who knew him before, compared to who he is "now" since my Cullen is a bit more... damaged. And he will eventually need more allies outside Hawke's little circle. Dun. Dun. Dun!

 

I just have to figure out what the heck she's been doing. I mean... the Warden Commander was also off investigating ways of conquering the Taint, right?? 

 

And, I love the notion of templars as partners instead of jailers, where you get your own personal templar to keep you safe. not that I've ever used that idea before...